FUCK ADOBE!
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- palimpsest2
You can pay half the price for Adobe if you play your cards right.
Downvote to the left!- And you can use Adobe products to design those cards.shapesalad
- oey_oey1
So it's that time of the year.
I was charged 61,59€ for my Adobe CC subscription.
I was like okay, I will cancel it.I'm canceling it and step by step I come to a window with an offer that is basically the same as what I'm paying now, 35,69€
Still, the offer marked as "best offer" is 2 months free then 61,59 a month.
I mean, what?! how is this possible?
Fior sure this will be possible to do every year, so why would anyone choose the "best offer"?I'm talking with an assistant now and check.
I really like to be able to use Adobe at the end of the day and I have 22 years of work.I really gave a thought today about quitting, but then come the questions like "what if I need it?"
- Things is I could just buy one version and maybe would need a new version in three years. Like Affinity did. Maybe I don't need the new version. Damn.oey_oey
- I mean, I make enough money to pay for it but...oey_oey
- The best thing would be to get a job for a company that hands me a MBP to work with Adobe CC and that doesn't mind me to use it for my own workoey_oey
- I'm on it this now... every year, the same bs :(OBBTKN
- I spoke with my partner and she said come on 35€? Just keep it and continue to support Affinity and continue to learn how to use it.oey_oey
- If the day comes they don't offer you a good subscription plan the quit when that time comes. Industry standard is an important factoroey_oey
- Personal projects Affinity. Client work Adobe.oey_oey
- If it's for photoshop - just use http://photopea.com instead.shapesalad
- or little snitch + cracked versionshapesalad
- ah missed those days. Adobe CS6oey_oey
- You just need to get ahead of the game. Set yourself a reminder and you'll keep paying half the price.
#don't be a chumppalimpsest - ^ hahaha!oey_oey
- I actually do that every year...but this year I had some serious family health business going on. no lets purchase V2 of Affinity :-)oey_oey
- No.
I think you're fucked for the whole year.
If you open an OnlyFans and post pics of your feet I'm in!palimpsest - What?!oey_oey
- Did I fucking stutter?palimpsest
- Affinity is amazing for non-professionals but spend an afternoon working with it and you'll pay anything for Photoshop.SlashPeckham
- sted0
https://www.politico.com/news/20…
BRIEF-U.S. DOJ Gearing Up For Lengthy Review Of Adobe's $20 Billion Figma Deal - Politico
- Noicenb
- Imagine a world where they had to sell it back lolololnb
- Facebook was compelled to sell Giphy back https://www.cnbc.com…grafician
- They didn’t have to sell it back to the original ownernb
- i_monk0
Immediately after upgrading to Ventura
- Look in System Settings > Privacy & Security > scroll down to Security. It might be you need to give permission to the app to run.Continuity
- That's what happened with my and my Wacom drivers when I updatedContinuity
- Ironically this is one of the Creative Cloud processes you can actually disable and work just fine.evilpeacock
- canoe1
Watch how the icons bounces
- nb1
Just please keep in mind that Adobe is privately planning to make ALL YOUR FILES inaccessible in the future unless you pay whatever fees they want to charge.
This is the business value of Adobe Creative Cloud. It’s not to sell you convenience, it is designed so that Adobe will own the rights to the access of whatever you create on their platform.
It’s your fault if you fall for it. I wouldn’t use Adobe for anything that I care about long-term. For dumb client work or my employer, who cares. But for my own work, I’m trying to stay the fuck away from Adobe.
Sadly, I use a plug-in that requires Lightroom so for now I’m stuck there. But at least photographs, once complete, can live off the platform forever.
- Source: I know PMs at Adobenb
- all your files are already inaccessible unless you pay for CC currently. it's only a surprise to anyone who has been blindly walking in to it for a decadekingsteven
- PS allows local file saving, right? You can use an old version of PS, right? I'm talking about the future state where there are no local files.nb
- Figma did this. Designers love Figma but Figma has provided a free tier, forever. One of the reasons why everyone is so mad about Adobe buying Figmanb
- It's one thing to sign up to a cloud service and accept the terms upfront, IS QUITE ANOTHER to retroactively lose access to legacy files going back decades!grafician
- ah, to be young againkingsteven
- I never save anything in CC, always local. This post doesn't make any sense.formed
- Eventually they will not allow you to save a local file. That’s the point.nb
- I'm just going to focus on trading for the next 10 years, rather than a design 'career'. If I focus on design, i'll end up penniless competing with AI.shapesalad
- trying real hard to make something sound dystopian. don't use adobe because you won't be able to access your files, use software that wont exist in 20 yearskingsteven
- unless it gets bought by adobe. i spent a day setting up a win 98 install to open a cakewalk 5 session last week. there is no absolution from obsoletionkingsteven
- it's funny imagining myself in 40 years talking to the wind, coercing a pervasive A.I. to create an A2 hologram of a gig poster i designed in 2008kingsteven
- i worked as a flash developer for a decade, i might as well put "2004 - 2014 Cared for a dying relative" on my CV, you've just got to let these things gokingsteven
- I don't believe Adobe will prevent you from saving locally.CyBrainX
- Hahahahaaha bookmark this thread Cybrain! Mark my wordsnb
- "...not allow you to save a local file"... so that's it then - no more PSD, AI, INDD... it'll all be .Cloud files, no sharing, collab'ing or saving your files?prophetone
- Good luck retaining your already-taxed CC user base b/c that model succeeds only if everyone in design industry gets on board, works in CC cloud onlyprophetone
- ...and w/ all eggs in the cloud server basket: benefits of local high spec machine diminished, network lag issues, files exposed = no privacy, hacks, bugs, fun!prophetone
- "ClientFlyer-V1-fina... cannot be opened at this time due to unusually high traffic volume, network issues. Please try again later."prophetone
- Where is this "no longer able to save locally"? That sounds absurd to me. Most software requires a license to connect these days, but that has nothing to doformed
- with the files themselves. Autodesk does this and is far, far more restrictive (now they are truly absurd and 1000x the cost).formed
- it's nonsense, he even gives figma as an example which i think is a great way of doing things and has a local save option in the feckin file menu.kingsteven
- tbh all my work is in Adobe cloud or Dropbox for 10 years and I've been paying ~1k a year to adobe since 2004. I can't open anything without the softwarekingsteven
- so what does it matter as long as i can archive it locallykingsteven
- Adobe did it cuz Autodesk did itgrafician
- Everything is subscription now. We can't escape it. Hell, even Apple wants you to lease their phones.formed
- nb2
Boom!
“Make a spot color, call it the Pantone color you intend to print. This is what I have always done, printers don’t care, and IMHO the RGB screen values in Adobe products have never truly matched up to how the actual PMS color prints”
– Jessica Hische
- This won't work with the zillions of older files using Pantone swatches
You will need to change EVERY SINGLE FILEgrafician - Also good luck editing colors in highly detailed illustrations with 6-12 Pantone colors now all black...grafician
- Only the ones you want to editnb
- Pass the cost on to your clientsnb
- Filling in black is a dick move, but you’re the one who chose to use Adobe. You deserve at least some of the blamenb
- This thread is nine years old. You still using Photoshop? Who’s fault is thatnb
- @graf can’t you just pay the $21?nb
- it's the fucking principle, not the sum!grafician
- "The RGB screen values in Adobe products have never truly matched up to how the actual PMS color print"jonny_quest_lives
- Because Pantone provides those values... and Pantone was in the switchback selling business not the make Adobe look good businessjonny_quest_lives
- *Swatchbookjonny_quest_lives
- So two companies with no regard for helping the other out and Adobe transitioning away from print headaches as it's becoming an RGB screen worldjonny_quest_lives
- Print advertising budgets are abysmal so there's no growth market for Adobe there and specialty inks require bigger budgets and are limited topackagingjonny_quest_lives
- Everyone has shit dropped shipped via Amazon anyway so why put money into elaborate consumer facing productsjonny_quest_lives
- Fuck Pantone for making on screen display of files look like shit, penalizing is for using them at allmonospaced
- I get you can't select Pantone colors now, but will the Pantone colors in old documents disappear?jagara
- This won't work with the zillions of older files using Pantone swatches
- grafician-2
- "going forward i understand the subscription model" lol, creative cuckloudkingsteven
- Don't shit where you eat, my friend.CyBrainX
- jonny_quest_lives6
Metallic Overprints are sexy... as are Fluorescent bump plates and neither Pantone nor Adobe can change that. Ink on paper when done well will always look miraculous. Fuck Adobe and Pantone. Shout out to all the old print heads. This move just makes us all magical Wizards with our prepress alchemy from a bygone era.
- Yupmonospaced
- Yep, a little more difficult for plastics, fabrics, etc. Just makes the job of the designer even more crucialnb
- nb0
Feels like these folks making digital directories of Pantone colors don’t really understand how Pantone colors work.
Or they do, maybe, but a digital directory doesn’t really solve this new licensing issue in any way. Are they just lashing out? A fuck you to Pantone?
I don’t get it
- i never liked the whole elitist pantone crap, the pantone branding and marketing, it's just a colour swatch, let's not get a big ego over it.shapesalad
- But can you use something like Freetone to pick a color, send to a printer and get that ink for your printed work?CyBrainX
- Forgive my ignorance. I haven't worked in print in decades.CyBrainX
- I *think* these are just color swatches that have same name (and “color”) as Pantone ones, so if you use them and open an old file they will be used in placehardhat
- technically pantone's IP only covers their index because they all contain "PANTONE" there have been indexes like this for open source software for yearskingsteven
- i think you just remove the word 'pantone' and don't distribute it with the software and hey prestokingsteven
- Elitism? Huh? It’s just designers trying to get the color right. Without a swatch book or chips, it’s all a waste of timenb
- Why don’t Adobe just buy Pantone and be done with it? Corporate fuckstains, the pair of them.Ianbolton
- Fuck Adobe. Gouging us all with this subscription bullshit and now they’re pissed about others companies following in their footsteps. Fuck emnb
- my wife said "these fucks need to work it out between them and leave us out of it."whatthefunk
- Fuck Pantone!aliastime
- utopian-1
- I need 16 reasonsnb
- wow! I hope Adobe doesn't start to complicate things.oey_oey
- so intuitive. being a XD user it was normal that things work as they work because I'm used to Adobe products but then you see this and you question everythingoey_oey
- I don't understand the downvotes. someone care to explain?oey_oey
- he looks exactly like the ideal Adobe fan boyshapesalad
- I thought the video was actually good and he makes some good points.oey_oey
- figma balls!pango
- PhanLo5
- Real?nb
- Pantone want US$21/month for access, and Solid Coated goes behind the paywall in early November.PhanLo
- https://twitter.com/…PhanLo
- Thank god I work only in digital and not print. Print shops just got screwed, and with inflation + energy prices...shapesalad
- @shape word!grafician
- not entirely sure how print shops got screwed if anything it does break color management for postscript devices with pantone librariesjonny_quest_lives
- pantone color is abstract on press it's just an extra unit on press. often the color is a specialty ink mixed inhouse at the press facility anywayjonny_quest_lives
- if anything set up fees and dialog gets a bit murkier with your print vendor but you can name your 5th color or varnishes whatever you want.jonny_quest_lives
- will probably pay the licensing fee just to avoid the headache of "dropped colors" when sending proofs through to our Epson Proofing systemjonny_quest_lives
- Yet another reason to move over to Affinity's products.Continuity
- grafician-1
Some ideas to work around this Pantone bs
- And a doc with alternative codes
https://docs.google.…grafician - ^ "all pantone colors in HEX and RGB"
s: https://twitter.com/…grafician - Bro do you even designnb
- ...since Photoshop 5.5grafician
- And a doc with alternative codes
- Projectile0
So Illustrator just casually added something I've been asking them for every time they ask for feedback:
Bullets / numbering
Vertical alignment of text (not that shitty confusing crap from 2020's release)
FINALLLYY!!
- fuck me, about time. The sheer lack of typographic layout options always annoyed the shit out of me in Illustrator.Ianbolton
- isn’t that why they made indesign?imbecile
- ^ it was. And until CC it made $ense to separate them to make people buy both. But I do all infographics in Illustrator so this is huge for meProjectile
- ^ Same here. Designing infographics and having to tabulate everything for bullet points pisses me offIanbolton
- CyBrainX0
After Effects won't render your movie or send it to Media Encoder if your project panel is in focus. Fair enough, it doesn't know what to do but how about an error response? It's easy to believe Media Encoder is having one of its regular fits of not wanting to do anything.
- you should never use media encoder. just render pro res and convert in something like handbrake.shapesalad
- I use Media Encoder because it's a one-stop solution. (when it works).CyBrainX
- but this issue I'm referring to in After Effects applies to rendering straight out of AE as well as Media Encoder.CyBrainX
- CyBrainX0
After Effects' splash screen is about as bad.
