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- cherub3
This explains alot.
- neverscared1
The images of DALL-E are amazing, but the AI is not starting from scratch. If they can create them, it is because they have been trained with millions of images from the internet. What this AI does is base itself on the images that match the key elements of the description that we give it.
DALL-E works with the images of creators who do not receive anything in return: what copyright says about AI
- This is true but every single artist and artwork ever created was based on or influenced by some other artist or artwork_niko
- the extent of this is much more greater than just a tool for visualizing context.sted
- this shows how the legal contradiction around AI provides a basis for stealing technologies and breaking the barriers that kept the world more or less at peace.sted
- yes but here its literaly in the ontolgy of the artwork not just a little inspiration.. it would be easy to track every pic used by the a.i generating...neverscared
- easy.... it shuld be mandatory to publish that file with the creative output file...neverscared
- ontology.... not just a labby dubby influence .. right there on the formal level...neverscared
- This is true but every single artist and artwork ever created was based on or influenced by some other artist or artwork = very dumb generalisation...neverscared
- I would say AI should get a credit in works but we don’t credit PS when it does content aware fill or other tricksscarabin
- I feel like it’s just a tool doing the same shit any other concept designer does- ingest others’ work and output some variation thereofscarabin
- Eh, it's just sampling.robotinc
- It's not just sampling. Said it a million times here, but all of these social media games and trials are to generate a library.garbage
- GANs requires a discriminatory network that provides free input and feedback to the generative network.garbage
- As soon as it passes the realness smell test efficiently, there will be no need for scripters. DALL-E-2 is going to swamp a lot of young artists.garbage
- Unless you think that clients are a discerning bunch (lol).garbage
- Because they know they can query exactly what any one image is comprised of, and it’s a legal issue so complex, and one that would dismantle the core of theirneverscared
- business. they’re focusing on the light at the end of the tunnel & hoping a bill doesn’t arrive.
Not the best approach.neverscared - https://twitter.com/…neverscared
- The final engines will be hyper-exclusive. If some artist wants to make a case for stolen work, they're going against a corp with a war chest.garbage
- Imagine the AI version of feathering, and also corporations claiming creative use.garbage
- Plus in the hypothetical that you're still using Facebook or IG in 2022, you should know that Meta has the rights to use any of your image since 2009.garbage
- You think any of these corps are really worried about some flea of a settlement when they mass appropriate actual art until the lines are so blurred..garbage
- ..that the artist doesn't exist anymore? That is what's going to happen.garbage
- it's not Dall-e that's culpable then, its the "artist" who imputes the query string. Dall-e is just a tool. If I say make a painting of Michael Jordan in the..._niko
- style of Basquiat it's a lazy and blatant rip off. But I can also go into detail and art-direct Dall-e by telling it what colours to use, brush stroke and lengt_niko
- ...composition, elements, etc etc until I also get a Michael Jordan painting in the style of Basquiat. Dall-e then becomes no more liable than say photoshop._niko
- That's the whole point. People are building a discriminative library for free. And then when people who know what they're doing give input..garbage
- ..on brush strokes and colors, that's also what goes into training the AI. For a while the job will be driving the GAN, but eventually it will be..garbage
- ..so convincing that it can go on autopilot. Ffs, the "A" in GAN stands for "adversarial".garbage
- and re: PS, Adobe is already dipping their toes in the water with Sensei. If you're in your 30s and working in this field, you will be irrelevant. Fun stuff.garbage
- AI will fight its own lawsuits - invalidate copyright law, by proving with a small margin of error all human art derivativekingsteven
- Yes the AI takes influence of it's pixels from all images it knows on a subject yet it replicates none of the pixels.
No copyright is infringed.microkorg
- neverscared0
Is DALL-E's art borrowed or stolen?
Creative AIs can't be creative without our art.Now, the debate has been turned upon its head, as machines can mass-produce unique pieces of art on their own. Generative Artificial Intelligences (GAIs) are systems which create pieces of work that can equal the old masters in technique, if not in intent. But there is a problem, since these systems are trained on existing material, often using content pulled from the internet, from us. Is it right, then, that the AIs of the future are able to produce something magical on the backs of our labor, potentially without our consent or compensation?
- needs to be regulated in the right magnitude .. https://www.bbc.co.u…neverscared
- We do the same thing, we train on existing material and techniques blatantly or subtly ripping off or being influenced by all those before us._niko
- Good artists borrow great artists steal
-Michael Scott_niko - Also dall-e isn’t an artist it’s a tool, go after the dude that inputs “paint a dickbutt in the style of banksy” and even then..._niko
- u cant rip grand harmonies and relationship of componnents and that is where u edge into beauty except u are a peasant artist... .. that great artist stealneverscared
- nonsense is utter nonsense..... if u dont evolve everyone gets bored .... great art is is relationship with the norms of the universe not some idiotic rip off.neverscared
- what should that even mean ? what do u want to steal? take giger´s alien for example one of the most iconic design of the last century.. if u start stealingneverscared
- u get copyright troubles and u are a loser coz everyone knows u r too puny to do sth. new... or in movies...what u wanna steal? the ryhthmn of a sequence ?neverscared
- if that probably makes your movie utter crap if it doesn´t fit with the rest of the composition ... and u surely cant rip a whole movies pace and rythmn...neverscared
- when u read the essential texts fru history of aesthetic theory there is nuffin about stealing it well defined different mindset...https://ww...neverscared
- https://www.medimops…neverscared
- i thought its pretty easy to go after the dude since its all traced anyway....neverscared
- There is no meaning or concept in ai generated art in and of itself the real art is the intent of the artist using ai as a tool_niko
- And you think Giger didn’t borrow from locecraft and Blake and Dali and kublin and Durer and Bosch etc?_niko
- AI takes influence of it's pixels from all images it knows on a subject yet it replicates none of the pixels.
No copyright is infringed.microkorg
- grafician-1
"AI-art isn't art
DALL-E and other AI artists offer only the imitation of art"
- grafician0
"AI art: what can, and can't (yet), be done"
"What happens when you work with an AI art generator to produce your piece? You would have to start with a description of the finished piece—and the more detailed, the better. Then, you would start pounding that text description into the AI, and saving the results. Perhaps you accumulate twenty images corresponding to your prompt; you would them evaluate them and pick the one you like the most.
This isn't artistic practice—this is curatorial practice. Of course, good curating is an art of its own..."
- neverscared-2
I ordered an AI-generated perfume to learn how it interprets the world
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By the beginning of this year, I moved to Sweden. And since Zuckerberg is always improving his techniques, one of the first ads that popped out on my Instagram was an exact combination of some of my favourite topics: artificial intelligence, innovation and fashion. This is how I learned about No Ordinary Scent or NOS, a Swedish perfume maker founded in 2019 which uses artificial intelligence to create custom fragrances after the analysis of images sent by customers.
- neverscared0
- Medieval scribes, laughing nervously, holding a Gutenberg bible in hand for the first time.neverscared
- grafician0
"Is DALL-E 2 Just ‘Gluing Things Together’ Without Understanding Their Relationships?"
"A new research paper from Harvard University suggests that OpenAI’s headline-grabbing text-to-image framework DALL-E 2 has notable difficulty in reproducing even infant-level relations between the elements that it composes into synthesized photos, despite the dazzling sophistication of much of its output."
https://www.unite.ai/is-dall-e-2…
- PhanLo1
Dave's on it!
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- https://www.davemcke…
I did as report on this guy in art school. Such incredible talentscarabin - Yeah dude! His work is beautiful. All that Photoshop work and also an super draughtsman, really beautiful stuff.
He seems a sweet man too.PhanLo
- https://www.davemcke…
- grafician0
Anybody on Disco Diffusion?
https://colab.research.google.co…
Better than Midjourney? at least for portraits
- It's much more complex, it can do great stuff and I got it working locally, absolute nightmare in comparison.kalkal
- https://discord.gg/6… <<<DD server if you want to see what it's capable ofkalkal
- To run locally at reasonable resolution, you want at least 12gb vram, though it can run on less in a much more limited capacity. I max out at 1664x960 but therekalkal
- 's scope to upscale with other tools obvskalkal
- well... 1280x1280 square is actual max, about 1.64MPkalkal
- Yes, this is the issue I had with all of these, the resolution is so so low, conceptually you can start something, but you can't use any image straight upgrafician
- but yeah, I get they run on limited resources and thousands of people running prompts at any timegrafician
- have a look at super res diffusion, takes forever to upscale an image but the results are pretty stunning. If you want something faster and you have a beefy cpukalkal
- then SwinIR x4 is often better than ESRGAN for upscalingkalkal
- kalkal2
Invites to the new Stable Diffusion, only valid for 60 mins
- 20 mins left and then the bot goes livekalkal
- Thanks!grafician
- I think it's just a test drive for the bot and their infrastructure so I'm not sure how long it'll be active for initially.kalkal
- from what I see in there, the completed prompts look very similar to DALL E in style.grafician
- similar to DALL E - substantially fewer restrictions and I *think* it maybe supports text, not 100% ON that though...kalkal
- !dream A floating island with a waterfall --height 768 --width 512 --seed 1 <<<< example on using their commandskalkal
- Stability AI has ~4000 Nvidia A100s, making it the 10th largest public supercomputer in the world.
Interestingkalkal - Running my old midjourney prompts to see the differences
Tomorrow will run the same on DALL E then comparegrafician - it is interesting to see how they interpret the same thing. Most my MJ prompts have moved to more complex weighted ones so I'll have to dumb them downkalkal
- Signed up for the DALL E beta mid June and still nothingkalkal
- Well... apparently not 20 mins lolkalkal
- lol yeah got mine a few days ago
let's see how they compare nowgrafician
