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- _niko0
I think that if any of us believe the world works this way, truly believe that it works this way, ie one giant conspiracy for the rich to make more money then we would all join ISIS or or any other radical anti-establishment, anti-capatalist or anti-globolaization group and burn it all to the ground.
But other than spouting conspiracy bullshit on the internet, we're doing fuck all.
- benfal990
What i'm trying to say here exactly is, I'm not sure, us, normal tax payer, can without any doubt presume that we know the exact truth of whats going on with all this. What i'm trying to say is, it must be a little more complicated than this. Seriously.
- dirtydesign0
Bottom line is that the US can't win.
We do too much and everyone tells us to back off.
We do too little and everyone asks where the fuck we were.- for the love of god, that's the whole point, the us never wanted to win, from the start, do you still believe they went in to save those poor irakis? comoooooonnGeorgesII
- those poor irakis? comoooooonnGeorgesII
- no. they went in for the wrong reason. no they have to go back to 'save those poor iraqis'.dirtydesign
- poor youset
- or let ISIS establish their caliphate and kill millions in the process.dirtydesign
- GeorgesII0
People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
Benjamin Franklin
it's sad that some peeps here are ready to drop every right they have at the first BANG they here,
seriously, how many statist are there in this board,
I always wonder how they can get away with doing the same thing over and over, using the same modus operandi in each county, than I realised most people still have no idea how their government, financial market, drug market, weapons market, etc, fuckn work, they don't care as long as they have food on their table, they don't care as long as the bomb are being dropped far away from them,
you can post links of banks recycling drug money, that most of the 3 letters agency are into insider trading, drug dealing and plain old war making,
you can even show them that "it's true, We tortured some folks" doesn't apply anymore to only brown people, that they are currently secret prison on their soil but also on many other locations, including planes, boat, etc,
they will say you are simple minded, that you are a conspiracy theorist, nut job,
then it comes out as true and it's the usual "I already knew about that"
it shows their insecurity in speaking of subject they do not understand, instead of asking for source, they plain old attack you by doing the tired, "Do you think the whole government is evil, lololol" ,
so I'll post something that will fly a thousand mile over their head, bait incoming
- I agree with you but there you are taking the holier than thou attitude again. What exactly are YOU doing?set
- Not that easy is it fella?set
- Ben Franklin was a free mason illuminati grandmaster, he was just messing with you with that quoteukit2
- ...and for the love of all...please proofread.marychain
- lol, marychainGnash
- GeorgesII0
@ set, sorry I can't respond in that small box,
I've been a true antiwar but not a pacifist in real life and online for as long as I can remember, you will never see me agree with any bombing anywhere, but I can understand when a local population takes arm, you will never see me agree with head cutters, but at least I never pretend that these guys over there are savages and these guys on the other side are evolved rational minded for me,
my pov is easy, if you used modern weapons to eliminate 100's of thousands, destroy any working infrastructure and disband the local armies by arming "rebel" force, place a crooked dictator in place of an elected official (crooked or not),
you should not take the high road when those same people go apeshit, If for some of you this is considered holier than wtv, I will gladly buy you a ticket to a mild war zone so you can experience real fear, then we can be on the same footing and we can all hold hands and sing kumbaya and drink tea,
now I've talked to some people engage in both side of the debate, I have talk to peace nicks, right wingers, nationalist, feminist, truthers, skeptics, religious, atheist, etc,
this is what I do I discuss subjects that most people will never even entertain in real life, because they ca not comprehend that the world we live in is a lot more crooked than it is,
this is what irritates me most, that some still believe the bs they see on their telly and will insult anyone else that doesn't toe the line
- Yep, you know real fear, I don't. You don't support war and other people you addressed earlier do... because... ??? You make no sense.set
- You make no sense. I agree with your sentiment but your assumptions and accusations are fucking strange.set
- But the crux is that you're doing just as much as anyone else here, nothing. Not supporting something is...set
- hardly the same as actively helping to stop it, now is it?set
- Again, I do agree with you, but you take a very high and mighty stance when you're not really doing any different from anyone else.set
- anyone else.set
- no worries, man, I'm often more abrasive in real life, this is why I have real friendsGeorgesII
- dasohr0
People are batshit crazy.
- http://www.ibtimes.c…
dasohr - So fucking depressing. Fuck, guys - if no one believes in them any more, they're no longer idols,ffs.detritus
- http://www.ibtimes.c…
- benfal990
Good read :
"Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories"
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/2…
- dbloc0
you know the CIA is reading this. Hi Mr. CIA. How is your search for the bad guys going?
- dbloc0
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- mg330
WTF.
ISIS: Desperate mum told 'you've just eaten your son' after visiting militants' base in search of kidnap victim
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/wor…- "Desperate mum" - Wanker newsmoldero
- call george2002
- https://www.youtube.…moldero
- Mirror. This was in the Mail too yesterday. Not exactly an unquestionably verified source.detritus
- bklyndroobeki0
Curious; why is ISIS being made out to be a joke?
Seeing/hearing lots of jokes by comedians and bloggers, I don't get it but maybe I'm missing something.
- BusterBoy0
When you ridicule something with humour, it reinforces the ridiculousness of their crusade. Hopefully that will lessen their appeal to disaffected young people.
- Disaffected young people may feel they're being made fun of, since you're making fun of what they likePupsipu
- @BUSTRBOY i do like this thought.bklyndroobeki
- GeorgesIV1
I know most of you will scoff this comment as pure raving folly,
but after watching the last isis video, it finally clicked,isis is a fuckn death cult, not a terrorist group, not a bs cult like the manson fam, or jim jones..
Isis practice something more ancient more evil.. it's similar to what the Baal worshippers, mayans high priests and african marabouts did and still do,
The way they sacrifice their victims is just too ritualistic to be random and can all be found in the bible
throat/head slicing(halal), fire burning (another ancient offer to god(moloch)), water drownings (god did it to the egyptian and it's still an important step to passing through lives) and earth burying (alive).
They are many ways to kill people, but it seem no matter where they are, beheading is their go to technic (see swedish ikea, etc, etc...)
I don't even know where I'm going with this rant.. but any group that openly promote themselves through snuff films and have hundreds and hundreds of hedgy people lining up to do their bidding isn't just your normal
- The cult of terror, just to let you know what they will do to you, if you're an infidel.
Put people in constant fear.ApeRobot - WTF?! I must've been away when that IKEA thing happened - I've not seen that anywhere in the news? ffs, Swedendetritus
- @ape, I get your drift, but the US and allies killed and maimed millions, they're like a modern death cult, Isis is literally practicing human sacrificeGeorgesIV
- their definition of infidel is so loose, isis has killed more muslims than so called infidels, you have to wonder what is their end goal,GeorgesIV
- ^
This is more barbaric from far, but eastern government are doing the same in a more "acceptable" way. ISIS like's it raw.ApeRobot - They killed other Muslims because ISIS claim they are representing the "true" Islam.ApeRobot
- More or less, the 71 Islamic sects left, are infidels to them.ApeRobot
- fuckn yes, getting droned is acceptable civilised killings, what isis is doing is literally bringing back ancient methods of terrors. we'll just have to waitGeorgesIV
- and see what they have up their sleeves and why they are left to run free to do their carnageGeorgesIV
- Probably a maneuver that was meant to destabilize a region.
And now, it's getting out of hands...ApeRobot - They run free because it kept us from looking at something else.ApeRobot
- Islam is the new Communist terror.ApeRobot
- yep, isis was a ptb creation and I still can't believe they lost control of their beast. just too convenientGeorgesIV
- ISIS is anything but a PIITB creation, if stories of their throwing gays from tall buildings is anything to go by.detritus
- lol piitb creation, thanks for making me laugh at such a macabre ideaGeorgesIV
- I'd laugh my shit off if it turned out this 'oldest koran' they've found stated that man on man love was halal, indeed, virtuous.detritus
- they're basing they're whole movement on a scripture written in the 3rd century. You could say their ways are rather primitive.Ianbolton
- The cult of terror, just to let you know what they will do to you, if you're an infidel.
- Ianbolton0
Here's an interesting public lecture on understanding the rise of IS
- I'm sure they will off course leave out the millions of dollars in weapons and money that was funnelled to them by the USGeorgesIV
- He does actually explain how they've gathered their weapons in the Q&A at the end.Ianbolton
- I listened to that guy before and he always gloss over the biggest red herring about isis, who benefits > who finances them > who is really isis, if he startsGeorgesIV
- saying that isis is alqaeda light without explaining the true roots of alqaeda, I have to shut it off, should I give him another chance?GeorgesIV
- I've not heard of him before or knew much about IS so found it interesting.Ianbolton
- they are many experts but none will address how we can doubletap a wedding in backward afghanistan but we can't take out a fuckn train of white toy yodasGeorgesIV
- I love how we're all becoming part of this war on terror. It's kind of fun don't you think?Ianbolton
- We've always been part of the war on terror, because we have triggered it, if the US didn't go apeshit in irak, there will be no isis,GeorgesIV
- I know. At least Sadam was only a dictator but not a ruthless army of head severing, mindless religious nutcasesIanbolton
- So it's not worth watching? I do want to know how their mint, bright white Toyota's, nicer than many of my friends, get to them so easily.formed
- CALLES0
another temple
- yuekit0
Isis has designs on the holy cities of Mecca, Medina, and Jerusalem and poses a danger to Europe, Vladimir Putin has reportedly said.
The Russian President said the situation is “very serious” and that Moscow is worried trained jihadists from the group - which refers to itself as the Islamic State - plan to return to EU countries and Russia, according to Russia Today.
- Russia Today lol.fadein11
- the only media not owned by murdochdrgs
- yeah RT is complete opposite in propaghanda.. but its a good measure to see pick the middle groundautoflavour
- truefadein11