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- NBQ004
Hey Milan, your fucking dear leader Poo-tin is threatening the world with nuclear weapons and if shit hits the fan caused by this little bitch you will be affected greatly too.
I assume you‘re pro-Russian because you‘re either a Serb (and still bitter about the US bombings which was justified for the war crimes Milosevic did and the Kosovo stuff) or you‘re actual a Russian and love your dictator.
- You shouldnt let him get to you.********
- Think of your blood pressure.********
- Wasn t he in Canada?grafician
- NBQ00, you've been brainwashed by Western lies and propaganda your whole life. there are two sides to every story.Milan
- have you ever even travelled outside of your city or country?Milan
- ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
He seems to be jumping on any right wing dicks there are. First the Canadian truckers now Russia.pango - The truckers are normal working folk who dont want an experimental gene therapy imposed upon them********
- If that makes them right wing then so be it.********
- lol, 2 sides... thats always the most banal, naive and fumn thing to say..very fine people on both sides. more than two is to complex for little milan anyhow.neverscared
- of course bobo only thinks its about the conspiracy. little did he know its actually about the recklessly implemented boarder crossing policy.pango
- which i actually have some sympathy for.pango
- Milan the faggot ass cuck********
- Long live Ukraine!GuyFawkes
- You shouldnt let him get to you.
- drgs0
I have 80% sympathy with Ukraine and 20% sympathy with Russia.
I just don't see a scenario where Russia does nothing while Ukraine applies for a NATO membership.
Knowing their somewhat chauvinist culture you understand this would mean a complete humiliation.There is a sacred belt of either neutral or Russophile peripheral states which Russia needs to feel safe -- Baltics were lost in 2010s, fuck them, Sweden wants to remain neutral, for Finland Russia could be a good reason to join NATO, but an even better reason not to join, so they don't.
Ukraine is the same as Finland, but Ukraine weights much more in this.What should have happened is:
1) NATO specifically to declare that they are not interested in having Ukraine as a member
2) Russia to understand that the neutrality of these states works both ways: stop fucking with Crimea/Donetsk/LuganskDebate in groups of 3
- The negations should end in exactly this: Russia out of Ukraine and NATO guarantees that they are not interested in Ukrainedrgs
- Here's the mystery though, there was never any indication Ukraine was going to be granted NATO membership at all.yuekit
- or Ucraina in NATO and Putin out for goodgrafician
- At least not in the near future. NATO just didn't want to specifically rule it out because their policy is not to ban any individual country.yuekit
- So what was the urgent threat that required going to war?yuekit
- then again NATO is basically just an alliance against Putin at this point, no doubt regular Russians would nt care about what Ucraina doesgrafician
- as Ucraina or any Eastern European state would ever fucking invade Russia, we don t care about The Russia anymore
To each his own since the Cold war ended...grafician - I don't know, Ukraine was very vocal about their intentions. But it all starts with Russia trying to get back their pre-USSR territoriesdrgs
- https://qph.fs.quora…drgs
- They'll will have to accept mistakes were made and move on with their life (they gave these territories themselves to Ukraine)drgs
- I'm 90% sympathetic to Russia. NATO shoiuld keep the fuck away from Eastern Europe.********
- 10% sympathy for the innocents in Ukraine.********
- Russian would have no need to fear nato if it's leaders didn't try to line their own pockets through corrupt means.shapesalad
- "90% sympathetic to Russia"
of course you would.pango - The tipping point for Russians to start a full blown war would be humiliation/frustrat... To appear as a strong country is more important than being one.drgs
- Give them that illusion ("NATO will not accept Ukr. as member because we see now that Russia is taking it seriously") and they'll back offdrgs
- @drgs maybe those Russian “republicans” are trying to save face, but I assure you regular Russian people are protesting already risking detention or even death!grafician
- Upvoted for balanceKhurram
- What was the purpose of NATO to continue to exist once the Cold War ended?Khurram
- What were the consequences of the US pulling out of the Intermediate Nuclear Forces treaty while maintaining 150 B-61 nuclear bombs in Europe pointed at Russia?Khurram
- Are you serious with these questions?grafician
- Yes. 100%Khurram
- Sarcasm is not a valid response.Khurram
- why do countries have armies when they're not at war with anyone? just in case?pango
- -1000000000% sympathy with russia********
- It's a good time for both Finland and Sweden to join NATO, considering Putin is bat shit crazy.utopian
- NATO goals are mainly defensive. As a response to Russian aggression historically. If I‘m wrong, let me have it :)grafician
- You answered neither question.Khurram
- Did Russia give up her nukes or point them anywhere else than NATO countries during that period?Nairn
- I don't think you have an understanding of the historicity of the situation as it played out during the 1990s right up until Trump pulled out of the INF treaty.Khurram
- But you may well ask speculative questions based on your utter ignorance of the matter.Khurram
- ooh,'historicity' no less. No, I have a useful smattering of historical knowledge, much like you do, but without the arrogance.Nairn
- It's difficult to have sympathy for Russia when they are essentially threatening to nuke the rest of the worldyuekit
- I have sympathy for Russian. But not Putinpango
- yuekit2
Task Force Rusich, a Russian mercenary unit which glories in its neo-Nazi reputation, became known for its brutality when it was first deployed to the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine during peak fighting between Russian separatist forces and the Ukrainian military in the summer of 2014.
- Shh, don‘t tell Milan.NBQ00
- Wow looks like Putin himself employs neo Nazi fighters...almost like it was just a made up excuseyuekit
- https://www.timesofi…Milan
- https://medium.com/d…yuekit
- https://www.nrk.no/u…yuekit
- Milan that article isn't entirely accurate. People aren't against opposing views but people are playing yourself.atomholc
- Correction: *but you are playing yourselfatomholc
- Milan is out very own commi separatist.utopian
- yuekit0
- Russia should invade them self. Or in other words. They should go fuck themself.pango
- What's happening in Lithuania?drgs
- or Romania!? wtf this aint rightgrafician
- Shh, don‘t tell Milan.NBQ00
- My bet is it correlates with "jews per capita", Ukraine/Belarus were the largest Jewry centersdrgs
- they should do this worldwide and also with the other religions.
would be quite reveiling. there is a reason why division of state and faith is important.uan - read that actually India and China are very low in their “acceptance” levels of various other peoples...grafician
- Can't say for India but yes mainland Chinese has low acceptance towards anyone who doesn't have the appearance of Han Chinese.pango
- As drgs has been pretty much saying for years - "every cunt's racist".Nairn
- grafician2
“ It's remarkable how Putin spent 20 years quite successfully poisoning European politics by carefully bolstering anti-EU forces.
In a few days, not only has that work been undone, but he's ushered a 'new EU normal' that looks West and relies more than ever on NATO.”
- grafician-1
“ The bank runs begin. Long lines in #Moscow for ATM withdrawals.”
Here they go
- this is why.. bitcoin.shapesalad
- Only problem Bitcoin is not readydrgs
- What is bitcoin?grafician
- https://www.nytimes.…neverscared
- they can print as many money as they need...the have an own federal bank.uan
- grafician-1
“ TWO OF RUSSIA'S BILLIONAIRES CALL FOR PEACE IN UKRAINE -RTRS”
Here they go
- Cuz they now affected by sanctions poor little ones. Otherwise they wouldn‘t give a shit.NBQ00
- Thtat;s a remarkable level of insight there.********
- Soon on the news "They are now immediately worth nothing and Putin seizes their assets."shapesalad
- grafician0
RT and Sputnik banned in EU
- For the duration of the conflict, or outright? I'm not sure I agree with this, either way.Nairn
- Probably forever. Those TV stations are just used to spread propaganda anywaygrafician
- https://twitter.com/…grafician
- Long overdue... Interesting to watch in real time decades of the Putin propaganda machine collapse in real time...jonny_quest_lives
- All it took was an ex Ukrainian comedian to stand up to a bully.jonny_quest_lives
- There is VPNpablo28
- NBQ000
- Actually sources from US intel to Macron himself say that Putin does not appear well at all, he might actually be very sick ‘ this would make him very dangerousgrafician
- kinda like a “last stand” thing before going out for good...grafician
- Should be an age cap on leaders. no one older than 65.shapesalad
- graf - any more on that? drgs said as much a few days back, then ignored me when I asked for more details, the total cunt.Nairn
- Sure let me check again the streamsgrafician
- Long table meetings signs of isolation and covid phobia or something else: https://twitter.com/…grafician
- Sen. Rubio remarks https://twitter.com/…grafician
- Macron https://twitter.com/…grafician
- AQUTE-6
"Russia is bad.... mmmmmm'kay"
- I disagree. Russia not bad.
putin badpango - ^Salarrue
- I've been a bit of a Russophile for decades now, so for me at least - this is not a good thing to witness. The Russian people need a break.Nairn
- This war was started by Putin and his cronies. The Russian people I know are against it.Chimp
- There was sarcasm in this message. Mmmmm'kayAQUTE
- No country is bad. All are amazing and great. There are bad people everywhere from any nation or country. But never is a whole country bad.AQUTE
- Well, Belgium.Nairn
- im sure everyone at the protest knows putin and russia is not one and the same. however putin is currently in command of the russian gov and army.pango
- hard to separate them when talking about it.
heck. even Russians are protesting invading Ukraine in russia.pango - heck, my country's done a lot of stuff within my lifetime that i've been, as an individual, powerless to prevent.Nairn
- same thing you dont go shout at every german you see for what nazi's did in WW2pango
- I agree we stand with Ukraine and we stand with Russians fuck Putin and his cronies_niko
- I disagree. Russia not bad.
- shapesalad2
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine…
Some Yachts going free if anyone is interested...
- NBQ00-1
Russian bank Tinkoff now offering to exchange rubles for dollars at a rate of 171 rubles per dollar. It was 83 before the European/US announcement about targeting the Russian central bank. Currency market formally opens tomorrow. This is brutal.
- brent oil just ripped up massively on the sunday night open. staggering move.shapesalad
- grafician-2
“ Twitch and OnlyFans block all users from Russia due to sanctions”
https://www.gamingdeputy.com/twi…
#notverified
but if true, there‘s a lot of cash in those accounts that won‘t go to poor Russian people probably in very dire financial situations right about now
- Milan-12
The reality of Ukrainian government
- Russia more bad, dohGnash
- Come on dude, any time some karen with twitter starts her rants with “what the mainstream media doesn’t tell you ...” it’s time to get better sources_niko
- Shut down 3 pro Russian tv stations, propped up by Putin lol and the opposition leader was another treasonous Putin puppet_niko
- lol just take a look at videos they posted. it's more of the meme content publisher disguised as new channelpango
- https://www.youtube.…pango
- 45 subscribers....pango
- you gotta be looking really hard to find that channel....pango
- lol @ Tulsi Gabbard. How is Ukraine "not a democracy" when they have elections?yuekit
- Notice how she totally changed her tune yesterday, so brave
https://twitter.com/…yuekit - Russia has elections, tooGnash
- As does BelarusGnash
- You mean that 80% landslide? Lolpango
- Put on yer thinkin’ capGnash
- that's a great advice for your self. i wonder what happened to their opponents. one got poisoned+arrested before election. the other arrested.pango
- and when the wife enters the election polling station were reduced. and wife arrested after the election. think gnash. think!pango
- You’re not the brightest bulbGnash
- :)pango
- Russia and Belarus have "elections" but the people in power don't tolerate any chance that they will lose. Candidates are disqualified or locked up if they poseyuekit
- any real threat. So basically her critique applies much more to Russia than Ukraine. In the past two decades Ukraine has had six different presidents, Russiayuekit
- and Belarus each had one person holding power the entire time.yuekit
- The only break was Putin briefly swapping places with his prime minister to get around a constitutional limitation (which is now gone completely).yuekit
- lol i'm pretty sure gnash knows that. he likes to be a contrarian.pango
- pr20
Great recourse:
Map of Ukraine with all those video/image links:
https://maphub.net/Cen4infoRes/r…
- NBQ001
BREAKING: US embassy says Americans in Russia should leave immediately while there are still outbound flights available
- utopian0
Putin puts nuclear forces on high alert, escalating tensions