The Russia thread.
The Russia thread.
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- NBQ004
Out of the box idea: We all get along and sing Kumbaya around a camp fire.
- Worth tryingnb
- Why not?OBBTKN
- The campfire big enough for all of us
https://images.forwa…drgs - The good ol' days
https://www.youtube.…yuekit - Lyrics please.shapesalad
- Problem not Russian people, problem is Vladgrafician
- The Big Thing the West fucked up was not doing waaay more to integrate post-Soviet era Russia deep into the fold. We have ourselves to blame for today.Nairn
- Whoops, I thought this was yuekit's NATO post, above.Nairn
- I was thinking the same...there was a moment in early 2000s when USA, Russia and China seemed to get along fineyuekit
- Funny, when you say "20 years ago" people still think it's the '90sgrafician
- @yuekit, wikileaks cables showed that it they never were.sted
- Which ones specifically? American media initially portrayed both Putin and Xi as moderate liberal reformers, funnily enoughyuekit
- Also recall Bush and Putin bonding over their shared Christian conservatism "I looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul" was an actual quote from Bushyuekit
- lol Bush was special, damn sometimes he said some idiotic things. "cables" refers to the leaked diplomatic conversations, showing hatred in the background.sted
- and party in the front.sted
- but damn these bad internets, we should get rid of it and only keep the good ones.sted
- yuekit1
An interesting fact about Russia is that before the invasion the entire GDP of Russia, the largest country on earth, was roughly equivalent to the single US state of Texas. After the crash of the ruble, it was estimated to be closer to the state of Ohio.
https://theconversation.com/the-…
Amazingly Russia (144 million people), which just half a century ago ruled one of the world's most powerful empires, now has a smaller GDP than the "non-country" of Taiwan (24 million people).
So this storyline about how they will be stronger without the West or how half the world is going to follow them into a new Cold War is delusional. No one can explain why a country would be better off isolated than it would fully integrated into the world system. If anything they should be blaming Putin for totally failing to develop Russia's economy like China did.
- Same can be said for the UK.... but then brexit was a Russian initiative.shapesalad
- It was in Russia’s interest to divide Europe. Brexit was part of that.Chimp
- that's what shape saidfadein11
- the Trump election and Brexit votes were always going to be close but I have no doubt Russian influence swung both in his favour. Amazing how well they used thefadein11
- tools invented in the West to destabilise it. That will likely be his legacy if he doesn't go nuclear.fadein11
- texas do be producing and making a lot of money tho.pango
- https://comptroller.…imbecile
- Nah, the issue that tipped the Brexit vote was the migrant invasion.Brabo_Brabo
- which never camefadein11
- and you just proved my pointfadein11
- The relative GDP sizes of Russia, Texas and Taiwan are fascinating. Now do one about debt, CPI, poverty etcBrabo_Brabo
- Immigration was a massive part of brexit whether you like it or not.Chimp
- Brexit was about EU taxes on the rich/oligarchsgrafician
- The fact that immigration was a large part of Brexit was down to russki influencehans_glib
- @chimp it was made a massive part of it, UK immigration is very low down on our problems but it's great at triggering gullible voters.fadein11
- @graf, it sure was for those leading the Russian backed campaignfadein11
- https://worldpopulat…imbecile
- Nukes is how Russia is able to out-kick its coverage. If Texas had more nukes than any other country on the planet, maybe they would invade Mexico...MondoMorphic
- ...as retribution for the war for Texas independence. "Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad!" lolMondoMorphic
- texas wants nothing to do with mexico. it's building its own wall and if it could move from the neighborhood it would. .hotroddy
- seems like texas is enjoying a lot of cheap labours. wonder where they got it from.pango
- NBQ004
Hey Milan, your fucking dear leader Poo-tin is threatening the world with nuclear weapons and if shit hits the fan caused by this little bitch you will be affected greatly too.
I assume you‘re pro-Russian because you‘re either a Serb (and still bitter about the US bombings which was justified for the war crimes Milosevic did and the Kosovo stuff) or you‘re actual a Russian and love your dictator.
- You shouldnt let him get to you.Brabo_Brabo
- Think of your blood pressure.Brabo_Brabo
- Wasn t he in Canada?grafician
- NBQ00, you've been brainwashed by Western lies and propaganda your whole life. there are two sides to every story.Milan
- have you ever even travelled outside of your city or country?Milan
- ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
He seems to be jumping on any right wing dicks there are. First the Canadian truckers now Russia.pango - The truckers are normal working folk who dont want an experimental gene therapy imposed upon themBrabo_Brabo
- If that makes them right wing then so be it.Brabo_Brabo
- lol, 2 sides... thats always the most banal, naive and fumn thing to say..very fine people on both sides. more than two is to complex for little milan anyhow.neverscared
- of course bobo only thinks its about the conspiracy. little did he know its actually about the recklessly implemented boarder crossing policy.pango
- which i actually have some sympathy for.pango
- Milan the faggot ass cuckbabydick
- Long live Ukraine!GuyFawkes
- utopian6
- ahahahaahsted
- Lol wait... For real?pango
- Yup...Air India Flight Returns To Delhi As Ukraine Closes Airspace.
https://www.ndtv.com…utopian - https://www.business…utopian
- Too much curry... They were flying the shortest route to a toileeeeeeetOBBTKN
- Since when did Indians need a toilet?Brabo_Brabo
- Ever since your enormous amount of shit clogged up all their toiletspango
- Krassy2
Putin is testing the West.
NATO's response or non-response will be historic and bearing colossal consequences.
- Do we give him a pass like we did the nazis after going into Poland?_niko
- We’ve grown fat and lazy on a steady diet of fast food and TikTok. We think the injustices of the world come down to gender pronouns. We’re distracted._niko
- We’re loving the good life, we switch our iPhones every 6 months, the only labour we know is trying to get that angle just right for our insta posts._niko
- We’re divided, we don’t trust each other, we don’t trust the government, we don’t trust science or medicine. We’re exactly where Putin wants us. Weak._niko
- https://www.youtube.…Milan
- Who’s going to stand up to him? Who’s going to sacrifice their children to oppose him? Who’s got the will or the guts?_niko
- I'm curious to hear from those who downvoted this post: Why do you consider and/or dismiss Putin's move as insignificant?Krassy
- It's always going to be easy for a nuclear armed superpower to push smaller states around whether it's USA, Russia or Chinayuekit
- It's like if the USA invaded a small part of Mexico, what can other countries do about it?yuekit
- OMG, did you just assume our gender?
He / Her / FurryMilan - @yuekit so where does that end?Krassy
- @niko: I've been saying this for years. We ARE weak. We ARE living the sheltered life. I saw Osama bin laden say it on television basically what niko just saidcherub
- He said basically the west is soft. It's true. How many of us living the good life wanna get airdropped into a war zone to fight Russia?cherub
- Hand to hand combat? The tic toc generation? ARE YOU SERIOUS?cherub
- So we should want to get airdropped into a war zone to fight Russia?palimpsest
- I'm too busy dropping NFTs.palimpsest
- Yikes! Niko and cherub. Are you from US? That’s grim take on yourself if you are. Liberal kids in coastal metropolitan cities def don’t represent us all.toemaas
- You all sound so old. Blaming tik tok and iPhones for what exactly?inteliboy
- _niko forgot his adhd pills todaypinkfloyd
- I watch MMA, I'm ready for battle.palimpsest
- I'm on our side, don't get me wrong. I'm just not sure if it has sunk in yet, this could be that war where we don't get to watch it safely on telly.cherub
- lol palimpsest : )cherub
- NATO's response will be economic sanctions. Don't bring fiat to a crypto fight.palimpsest
- @palimpsest you're on a roll! LOLKrassy
- No toemass not from the US but talking about the West including Europe. Will Scandinavia help? Italy? France? Germany? Who exactly if push comes to shove?_niko
- And what about your hardened rural heartland red blooded Americans? Are they going to sacrifice themselves to fight the Russians? Give me a break_niko
- Fucking white trash meth addict opioid zombie redneck trump lovers? Yeah right. Don’t make me laugh._niko
- Look how well you did in Syria. It was a walk in the park for Putin and the Russians, for Americans and their allies it was a total shitshow._niko
- And we can’t handle a comedian on stage ffs, how can we handle the ruskies?_niko
- They're about to go in and murder thousands of innocent men women and children and not bat an eye, we're arguing over Joe fucking Rogan._niko
- I don't want to sound alarmist or defeatist but as someone else mentioned before if the International community's response to the Uygurs is any indication then_niko
- ...Ukraine is pretty much fucked._niko
- Send in Daddy Rogan to negotiate, he'll cobra clutch that rusky into submission. We can pay him in elk.palimpsest
- Haha. You’re either one or the other, right. It’s not ww2 so the pushing and shoving isn’t necessary unless there is desperation. In that case even atoemaas
- Tik Tok meth head red blood blue blood spaghetti monster will fights it’s way outtoemaas
- Krassy5
Anti-Putin Ppro-Navalny protest in Yakutia, where its -50℃
- <<<<< They must really hate Putinoey_oey
- right? that's dedication to a cause right there!Krassy
- I don't think that they hate Putin or love democracy. They're just sick and tired of the system that has continually let them down...day after day for decades.utopian
- ^ exactly. they hate the system but love Putin ;-)oey_oey
- https://www.qbn.com/…sted
- Maybe they love the cold?NonEntity
- one of the coldest cities on earth. buildings are all on stilts on top of permafrost. fuck that shit!microkorg
- YakuZoku4
Yevgeny Prigozhin was passenger on crashed plane, Russian officials say
https://www.ft.com/content/812c9…
- utopian3
- nothing suspicious here. carry onpango
- The list keeps growing...OBBTKN
- The Russian embassy today said the Odisha police haven't yet found any criminal link in the death of two of its citizen at the same hotel in the stateBeeswax
- within two days. Pavel Antov and Vladimir Bidenov died at the same hotel in Odisha's Rayagada district two days apartBeeswax
- I thought only Russian windows were shitty quality. Now we have to watch for Indian ones, too?Continuity
- It be funny if Bill Gates fell out of a window.Chimp
- window or teagrafician
- Not a country. It’s the Costa nostra with nukes._niko
- _niko3
I know Putin invaded Ukraine over what he called Naziism, when in reality it was a handful of neo-nazi hooligans, which Russia also has a ton of, but as a whole, Putin is a totalitarian dictator of a far-right fascist regime akin to the actual Nazi party no?
- More or less, yeah.Continuity
- Putin's actions are even similar to Hitler at the beginning of WW2. Hitler thought Poland was a fake country, he used the pretext of protecting ethnic Germansyuekit
- It was a Putin's strawman. There is a contingent of Neonazis that has been folded into the Ukrainian force that serves in the east.garbage
- But ffs, Putin's buddy runs their merc group equivalent to Academi / Blackwater, and Putin uses them for war crimes all the time.garbage
- Top brass are literal Nazis. They named themselves Wagner Group, it can't be more obvious projection.garbage
- They're good at killing civilians, but they fired on American troops in Syria and Mattis fucking smoked them, hundreds killed in minutes.garbage
- Thanks for the info garbage, I just read about that battle : https://en.m.wikiped…_niko
- No problem, and if you want to dig deeper look up Yevgeny Prigozhin. He's a fucking movie and a half.garbage
- Petty thief turned hotdog salesman turned casino owner turned Putin's mob connection and financier of a private military company. It's insane.garbage
- Oh and he also is likely the head or at least a higher up in the Internet Research Agency, which is the most prominent Russian bot farm..garbage
- ..for the past 10 years, arguably the most destructive disinformation machine in recent memory.garbage
- Article on the Wagner Group's activities in Africa
https://www.nytimes.…yuekit - "A man said Russian mercenaries and the Central African Army tortured him and cut off his finger with an axe"yuekit
- Bit fucked up to send neo Nazi mercenaries into Africa. Apparently they are helping Central African government suppress rebellion and guarding diamond mines.yuekit
- saying you go against nazis, communists, capitalists or bioweapons are common means to convince people into wars. makes people think wars are right.uan
- Fascism communism totalitarianism are all far left ideologies with total government control far right is anarchy or libertarianismHayoth
- what?sted
- even Hitler disagrees with you Hayoth lolsted
- We've already established that it's not worth engaging the village idiot. If he's doing a bit, it's boring..garbage
- ..and if he really has such a raging misunderstanding of basic political ideologies, he's beyond reason.garbage
- pablo287
- Natasha from RASSANBQ00
- Exactly. It's a special financial operations to help Russia.pango
- Found my soul mate.palimpsest
- pango5
many of my russian friends are trying to get their parents and relatives out of russia as of few days ago.
many of them have to drive to another country to catch a flight.- what about themselves? Just parents and relatives?NBQ00
- presuming his friends are already out and living abroad. trying to get parents in their motherland out to come live abroad.microkorg
- I wonder where they plan to go? It's not like you can easily settle in another country on a whim.yuekit
- they're already in canada. but relatives still in russiapango
- so far most of them are just going to get their parents to live with them for now. and figure out the rest later.pango
- go to ass of hell putinneverscared
- drgs0
I have 80% sympathy with Ukraine and 20% sympathy with Russia.
I just don't see a scenario where Russia does nothing while Ukraine applies for a NATO membership.
Knowing their somewhat chauvinist culture you understand this would mean a complete humiliation.There is a sacred belt of either neutral or Russophile peripheral states which Russia needs to feel safe -- Baltics were lost in 2010s, fuck them, Sweden wants to remain neutral, for Finland Russia could be a good reason to join NATO, but an even better reason not to join, so they don't.
Ukraine is the same as Finland, but Ukraine weights much more in this.What should have happened is:
1) NATO specifically to declare that they are not interested in having Ukraine as a member
2) Russia to understand that the neutrality of these states works both ways: stop fucking with Crimea/Donetsk/LuganskDebate in groups of 3
- The negations should end in exactly this: Russia out of Ukraine and NATO guarantees that they are not interested in Ukrainedrgs
- Here's the mystery though, there was never any indication Ukraine was going to be granted NATO membership at all.yuekit
- or Ucraina in NATO and Putin out for goodgrafician
- At least not in the near future. NATO just didn't want to specifically rule it out because their policy is not to ban any individual country.yuekit
- So what was the urgent threat that required going to war?yuekit
- then again NATO is basically just an alliance against Putin at this point, no doubt regular Russians would nt care about what Ucraina doesgrafician
- as Ucraina or any Eastern European state would ever fucking invade Russia, we don t care about The Russia anymore
To each his own since the Cold war ended...grafician - I don't know, Ukraine was very vocal about their intentions. But it all starts with Russia trying to get back their pre-USSR territoriesdrgs
- https://qph.fs.quora…drgs
- They'll will have to accept mistakes were made and move on with their life (they gave these territories themselves to Ukraine)drgs
- I'm 90% sympathetic to Russia. NATO shoiuld keep the fuck away from Eastern Europe.Brabo_Brabo
- 10% sympathy for the innocents in Ukraine.Brabo_Brabo
- Russian would have no need to fear nato if it's leaders didn't try to line their own pockets through corrupt means.shapesalad
- "90% sympathetic to Russia"
of course you would.pango - The tipping point for Russians to start a full blown war would be humiliation/frustrat... To appear as a strong country is more important than being one.drgs
- Give them that illusion ("NATO will not accept Ukr. as member because we see now that Russia is taking it seriously") and they'll back offdrgs
- @drgs maybe those Russian “republicans” are trying to save face, but I assure you regular Russian people are protesting already risking detention or even death!grafician
- Upvoted for balanceKhurram
- What was the purpose of NATO to continue to exist once the Cold War ended?Khurram
- What were the consequences of the US pulling out of the Intermediate Nuclear Forces treaty while maintaining 150 B-61 nuclear bombs in Europe pointed at Russia?Khurram
- Are you serious with these questions?grafician
- Yes. 100%Khurram
- Sarcasm is not a valid response.Khurram
- why do countries have armies when they're not at war with anyone? just in case?pango
- -1000000000% sympathy with russiababydick
- It's a good time for both Finland and Sweden to join NATO, considering Putin is bat shit crazy.utopian
- NATO goals are mainly defensive. As a response to Russian aggression historically. If I‘m wrong, let me have it :)grafician
- You answered neither question.Khurram
- Did Russia give up her nukes or point them anywhere else than NATO countries during that period?Nairn
- I don't think you have an understanding of the historicity of the situation as it played out during the 1990s right up until Trump pulled out of the INF treaty.Khurram
- But you may well ask speculative questions based on your utter ignorance of the matter.Khurram
- ooh,'historicity' no less. No, I have a useful smattering of historical knowledge, much like you do, but without the arrogance.Nairn
- It's difficult to have sympathy for Russia when they are essentially threatening to nuke the rest of the worldyuekit
- I have sympathy for Russian. But not Putinpango
- NBQ003
Sorry it’s Fox News.
Russian troops underfunded, equipment sub-par, according to reports
https://www.foxnews.com/world/uk…- CRUSH THEM, UKRAINEbabydick
- Sweep the leg YuriRamanisky2
- sooner or later the Russian will lose the will to fight their brethren and turn on Putin. Hopefully._niko
- hope.shapesalad
- He'll take refuge in China.shapesalad
- https://i.imgur.com/…utopian
- Seems like Russian soldiers doesn't even want to fight. And Ukraine civilian are joining the fight.pango
- You have to love the irony that this is also what lost them the Crimean war of 1853. Putin channeling the tsars indeed.monNom
- whatthefunk9
- what are you talking about, it was all just Trump deranGement syndromEfadein11
- yuekit4
Out of the box idea: Ukraine and Russia both join NATO, problem solved.
- Nobel Peace Prize.palimpsest
- or put on a huge music festival in Ukraine bringing together everyone. Must have metal detectors on entry though. And no vodka.fadein11
- Russia tried 30 years ago, they don't want them theredrgs
- What happens when in the Uk it rains and lot and you’ve got e. You’ve got Ukraine.shapesalad
- Ukraine should hold a snap referendum to join Russia and vote for it. Conflict avoided.shapesalad
- Canada sends the truckers to Ucraina to block the invasion...grafician
- I like the idea, chaina might does notsted
- utopian6
A 35 yr old woman from Los Angeles accused of donating $50 to a Ukraine Aid Non-profit, has been arrested in Russia on suspicion of high treason. She faces up to 20 years in prison.
From Russia With Love - XOXO
- Since February 2022, a 33-year-old has been raising money to purchase equipment, ammunition and medical supplies for the Armed Forces of
Ukraine.Milan - She raised $50 in 2 years? She should've charged more than a dime for a bj, like your wife.Milan
- yup. 20 years for $50 dollars.pango
- that's what i've told her too! daddy needs a new flat screen tv!pango
- A QLED?skinny_puppy
- no. QDEL!pango
- Since February 2022, a 33-year-old has been raising money to purchase equipment, ammunition and medical supplies for the Armed Forces of
