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- colin_s0
the trump / russia narrative is getting to like, infowars levels of stupidity. liberals / democrats need to grasp (read: create) any reason for his election that meets two qualifications:
1. it can fit in a clickable headline
2. it does not fault the influence of late capitalism on institutions, be they the state or mediathe "collusion" that people obsess over should be that between wall street and the oval office and the continued neglect the government shows for the general populace, with a constant plan to elect one of two who-gives-a-shit to keep the wheels of power spinning as they are
all of this misguided rage on the center-left reminds me so much of the tea party and the republican voting against their own interests sort of narrative, blows my mind they all got so wrapped up in it
yeah corruption exists imagine that, impeachment won't do a fucking thing about it
- I agree that the coverage is sensational. Impeachment is not the end game. Dems are trying to introuduce an Anti-Corruption and Public Integrity Act.T-Dawg
- Yes, Dems should lecture us on integrity.robotron3k
- The bill aims to target corruption on both sides. I suggest you criticize the substance of the bill rather than using some throwaway statement.T-Dawg
- But if you're just here to watch the world burn, then say whatever...T-Dawg
- Until an anti-corruption bill includes getting rid of lobbyist, I got no interest.BonSeff
- Sections 201 to 212 of that bill are about lobbying reform and adding restrictions and prohibitions.T-Dawg
- Hook us up with a link I'm down for being hip and in the knowrobotron3k
- Here's the actual bill (lots of legal mumbo jumbo, not worth going through) https://www.congress…T-Dawg
- I don't like vox, but quick synopsis in the middle
http://www.vox.com/p…T-Dawg - Bipartisan too, some heavy repubs. on board https://www.usatoday…T-Dawg
- Sorry if links got cut, qbn notes not the best for long txtT-Dawg
- Thanks for posting. This is the type of thing that should be happening in order to be elected...I am encouragedformed
- Krassy2
After El Chapo conviction, use seized $14 BILLION to build border wall?
- was this Trump's plan all along when he promised Mexico to pay for the wall? LOLKrassy
- Pretty sure Congress still has to approve the spend, and that will never happen. Not in this lifetime. It was always a lie.monospaced
- actually kinda makes sense. using seized crime assets to pay for it.Gnash
- The comments under that article, smh.Maaku
- never heard of "the american mirror"fooler
- I seriously doubt they seized anything even close to that._niko
- Those are American money, pretty sure I contributedzaq
- https://thehill.com/…robotron3k
- Me too, zaq, one of the perks of growing up in a border town was cheap weedBonSeff
- qoob0
- Gardener12
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:"A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfulls of hair and scream in anguish:
'My God... what... have... I... created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."- This is exactly — exactly — how educated American democrats feels about him too.monospaced
- I don't think many people liked him much initially. I still don't think many of his voters really like him (not all of them go to the rallies).Fax_Benson
- they like(d) him more than the alternative. People said as much in all those interviews by bemused liberal news channels circa the election.Fax_Benson
- and he was genuinely, sarcastically funny in that presser when he banned Acosta for being a tit. Otherwise, agree with every word.Fax_Benson
- Oh man, never take what Brits say seriously, not only did they vote Brexit they also voted to keep May. So... Yeah, no.robotron3k
- That's almost as stupid as saying that most american voted for Trump ... ALMOST.monospaced
- But go ahead and say any stupid shit you think of instead of accepting the fact everything this brit said is absolutely true.monospaced
- If you assume the writer is correct, and the public sees this as well and still votes for Trump, the public knows politicians are corrupt.robotron3k
- I'm not assuming this writer is correct, he simply is. It's not a matter of opinion. And yes, the assholes, bigots and idiots still voted for him, regardless.monospaced
- And let's not forget, we've had years of Trump being a trolling buffoon and embarrassment as a president that we didn't have before the election in 2016.monospaced
- We'll see, in the next election, who really still votes for him, despite the fact that the majority of the educated, informed world views him like this.monospaced
- Bluejam0
"Essentially, it is likely this national emergency declaration will be tied up for months in the courts, and possibly ruled unconstitutional. But he’s doing it anyway."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-n…
- good luck proving there's an emergency, you bigoted fuckwadmonospaced
- How does he get away with so much crap? This is the worst reality show ever, the spectators are the victims.Maaku
- Since there are currently 35 active Emergency Declarations what's one more...robotron3k
- If he gets re-elected, I'll lose all faith in the USBennn
- 31 actually
https://en.wikipedia…Bluejam - Almost all of them are about curbing terrorism and trade with restricted entities and nations that support known terrorist organizations with weapons and moneymonospaced
- He's just a big spoiled baby that throws a fit until he gets his way._niko
- Anything it takes, to get back on the golf course.BH26
- 10am - Holy crap! our country is being invaded, National Emergency!
4pm - Head to Mar-A-Lago for the weekend to work on my short game.capn_ron - He just said "I didn't have to do this..."see_thru
- Love how this guy is so stupid that he undercuts his 'emergency' declaration half a dozen times. His lawyers were probably concussed from facepalming.mathinc
- Yet his fanboys still lap it all up and defend him at every turn, so why wouldn't he? I blame the fools that support him as much as himself.formed
- I will thpit on youdbloc
- utopian2
- The reporters face at the end. Donald is such a top level shagger he can just big dick his was through anything.PhanLo
- #toadstoolmonospaced
- jesusfadein11
- colin_s3
- nice tan suit.Ramanisky2
- Barf colorSalarrue
- #nationalemergencymonospaced
- Isn't the point he's not wearing his wig and he's rubbed off some of the orange make-up from his facelowimpakt
- God that's an awful interior. Looks like a cheap motel.formed
- +1, formed - looks like some sort of 3 star hotel from the UK in the seventies. Actually, Fawlty Towers was better than this...Nairn
- ..and why are they frying food worthy of ketchup in a room like that, without any extractors, etc? It must stink in there.Nairn
- "fries with that Don?"
"erm just let me finish this tweet"fadein11
- imbecile9
i spent some time speaking with a married couple who are trump supporters. she voted for trump and he voted independent (so he "could complain no matter who won")
while her beliefs and statements were questionable, they remained rooted in reality but seemed to have an overall sentiment of "things are fine the way they are".
he however was a different story.
while the topic began light, referring to a lack of unbiased journalism in general, it quickly spiraled to presidential discussions and fake news.
the amount of misinformation this man spewed as fact was torrential. his blatant hypocrisy showing light with every other statement.
it went about like this...
"this bad news about HRC is definitely why i couldn't vote for her, she's a crook and a criminal."
"michelle obama is a man and they adopted their daughters"
"obama supported BLM and called for black to kill police"
however, if any counterpoint was spoken about trump, it was met with "fake news" and "i won't believe it". note that he says won't , not don't. a literal refusal.
when pressed how he could call all news fake, but still be so adamantly against the obamas and clintons, he had no answer.
when asked how all possible information on a person (trump) could be fake or misinformation, he had no answer.
when asked to review his stance and position on these topics, he grasped at straws using his own ignorant anger as justification for his beliefs, complaining about (legal) immigrants who have come here and voted "one of their own" into office referring to somalis in minnesota (i had no idea what he was on about).
He swore 80,000 illegal immigrants had somehow illegally voted and caused this controversy.
i simply stated, if they were illegal, the votes wouldn't have counted, also, it would be the largest voter fraud to have ever hit the mainstream media, neither of which came to fruition.
after a few raised voices, the conversation ended on a civil yet extremely sour note as i decided to leave.
i was so emotionally overwhelmed by the depth of the racist / ignorant beliefs that i had to pull over and cry discussing with my girlfriend, my complete disbelief to the fact that people like that exist in real life, not just as internet trolls.
#sicksadworld
- facts and populism rarely mix.fadein11
- same BS this side of the pond.fadein11
- he sounds like he's in Trump's corner overall, despite how he voted, right?monospaced
- I've encountered this too, and I always wonder where they get such misinformation from.monospaced
- Foxallthethings
- 'YouTube Research'PhanLo
- FOX news is bad, but they don't stoop that low.monospaced
- definitely a trump supporter, monoimbecile
- right, I somehow missed that in your first sentence and just latched onto how he votedmonospaced
- How did you luck into this conversation?ben_
- They might be nice and harmless but it's worrying that people can reach adulthood and be so stupid, gullible and disconnected from reality.lowimpakt
- it all probably boils down to conserving your way of life. The life that your parents, grandparents and so on lived. People don't like change._niko
- America is way too big and way too fragmented for everyone to agree and be happy about anything._niko
- You should be able to live in a society of like minded people, sharing similar beliefs, goals and values, something of a homogenous population like Japan_niko
- not saying they don't have their issues but they're a fraction of the shit going on in the states. Way too many interests from way too many groups of people/_niko
- disagreement and opposing views is healthy, but outright ignorance and brainwashing is not.inteliboy
- The lazy ignorance in 'Murika has gone from just "lazy" to being actively aggressively ignorant. "Fake" has given them ammunition to believe whatever.formed
- The saddest fact is that these types are rarely rich, just regular middle class or poor people with terrible education, and they honestly think Trump gives twomg33
- shits about them or that he has any idea of their struggles, needs, etc. in life. They’ve fallen for the most disconnected from reality conman of all time.mg33
- I had to hear this crap about Obama fro my father in law and brother in law. That Obama was a Marxist (couldn’t even begin to explain Marxism to me).mg33
- My BIL semi-jokingly stated that the government had no faith in people raising their own kids, and that they wanted to take your kids, indoctrinate them asmg33
- Liberals, and give them back when they’re 18. I love the guy but I just don’t understand where he gets this stuff. We’re at least able to have civil convosmg33
- about politics but it’s so frustrating. They don’t even have cable... they’re not getting this from Fox News. By and large, they simply vote for whoevermg33
- is pro life.mg33
- yup ... voting over an issue that is a non-issue, and will never, EVER change (abortion, that is). Give it up, conservatards. It ain't happening.monospaced
- utopian3
Never too young #MAGA for life!
- Brainwashing.Hayzilla
- Maga kid vs Trans kidrobotron3k
- where is he going to send the money to to help build the wall?capn_ron
- nobody's gonna tell him?monospaced
- will need to see...
1. business license
2. peddler's permit
3. food permit
4. food handlers cardimbecile - Poor kid. Pathetic parents. He'll be hearing about this for a long, long time. Talk about abuse.formed
- What i find pathetic is the insistance that the the boy is somehow abused because he (along with millions of other US citizens) has a different political...Morning_star
- ...perspective. Polarising the political climate is a tactic that will not have a positive outcome.Morning_star
- lol, it's not JUST because he's being indoctrinated with bigotry and racism, it's because his proceeds won't go toward a wall, it's a fucking LIEmonospaced
- Well i'm glad you were here to explain to me how you've projected your own prejudices onto the situation.Morning_star
- it's not a prejudice, it's a factmonospaced
- There is no wall, his proceeds won't go toward a wall. Ridiculous.monospaced
- The only group doing the polarizing are Trump and his supporters, going around insisting there's a crisis and a need for a wall, when there isn't. It's a lie.monospaced
- Even more outrageous is that people voted because they thought there would be a wall, and continue to spread propaganda about a wall that will and cannot exist.monospaced
- It's not a fact. It's your opinion. What is outrageous is that FACT that the boy is 7yrs old and you think it's fair to judge him through your skewed...Morning_star
- ...political perspectiveMorning_star
- It's not my opinion there will never be a wall. It's not my opinion the proceeds from selling lemonade won't go toward the wall or that he's been lied to.monospaced
- Nobody is judging the boy. They're judging the parents and community that has lied to him and supported this nonsense. That isn't opinion, or prejudice.monospaced
- People here feel sorry for him, since he's been brainwashed to believe the wall will happen, and that his money is going toward it. It's sympath, not prejudice.monospaced
- BTW It was hot chocolate and marsh mallows not lemonade. So, he's now a brainwashed, bigoted, racist peddling nonsense and you think that the Trump supporters..Morning_star
- ..are the ones polarising the debate. This holier-than-though attitude towards the opposition will not help your position one bit.Morning_star
- lol, lemonade, hot chocolate, kinda beside the point. I'm not saying the kid is all those things, just that he's being indoctrinated with themmonospaced
- and yeah, I suppose it is holier-than-though to say that the wall is a racist/bigoted symbol, and not a solution to a problem, and i"m proud of that stancemonospaced
- And, at the risk of sounding repetitive, there will never be a wall. There never was going to be one. This kid has been duped and conned into promoting it.monospaced
- That is the point. And it's not opinion.monospaced
- BTW, Why won’t there be a wall? Urangutan in chief seems pretty committed.Morning_star
