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- Nairn6
oh dear sweet lord, why won't you just fucking die, you malignant faecal slop?
- Wow, do not read the comments. Surely most of them are bots, but that type of siloing is dangerous.garbage
- you read my mind, the cunt must die. he has no redeeming qualities.none. just a vile person.tank02
- The worst thing to happen to this country.monospaced
- His favorite word is still "tremendous" lolutopian
- "Detroit is corrupt, i got lot of friends in Detroit" kehhsted
- this is all green-screened too, right?
where is he?Nairn - I could not watch until the end. WTF?! seriously, lets pray to the covid gods...fuck, it didn't work! something else we can use?oey_oey
- Fucking yawnhardhat
- @oey_oey
We can use law enforcement to prosecute him for crimes.CyBrainX - prison and throw away the key/renderedred
- Bad loser. We’ll have to hear him until 2024 when attempts again.NBQ00
- It looks like a fuckin deep fake video...nbq
- that's exactly what I thought when I started watching it, nbq - I had to double check the channel it was posted on.Nairn
- DRIFTMONKEY0
Regarding the video.
From Washington Post. (paid link)-----------------------------
By Philip Bump Dec. 2, 2020 at 5:14 p.m. ESTBy the time President Trump released a lengthy recorded speech Wednesday delineating his various false and debunked claims about fraud in the presidential election, it was already too late.
He insisted it wasn’t, of course.
“There is still plenty of time to certify the correct winner of the election,” he argued, “and that’s what we’re fighting to do.”
But there wasn’t still plenty of time. That’s not just in the sense that, over the past month, he’s been unable to provide any evidence to bolster his claims of fraud. It isn’t just in the sense that races had already been called in each state, showing that President-elect Joe Biden would surpass the required number of electoral votes. And it wasn’t just that states were beginning to certify those results, locking Trump’s losses in cement.
As he spoke, five of the six states Trump has repeatedly focused on with his unfounded claims of fraud — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — had not only certified their results but also transmitted formal certificates of ascertainment to the National Archives with the seal of the state’s governor. And that, by itself, essentially closes the door.
To understand why, you have to understand a bit about the process by which the United States selects a president. It’s fairly opaque in large part because the country eventually put the emphasis on the will of the voters instead of the electoral college. How those electors voted tracked with how the voters voted, so the process by which those electors were formalized moved to the background.
With Trump attempting to somehow subvert the will of the voters, though, it demands more attention.
In about two weeks, the electors from each state will meet to formally cast their votes for the president and vice president. But that’s only half of what ends up being transmitted to Washington. Those votes are paired with what are called “certificates of ascertainment,” formal declarations from each state of which slate of electors should be considered valid.
Here, for example, is the second page of Wisconsin’s certificate of ascertainment. (National Archives) [image]
It bears both the seal of the state and the signatures of the governor and secretary of state. It lists the specific people who will serve as electors — all of whom are pledged to Biden, as the first page delineates.These documents look different from state to state, varying in form and content. But each one that has been submitted contains two important bits of information: who won the state and whom the electors will therefore be.
Again, these are critical documents. As the National Archives’ explainer of the process puts it, “a set of electoral votes consists of one Certificate of Ascertainment and one Certificate of Vote.” The certificate of vote is the documentation of how the electors voted. The certificate of ascertainment is what is signed by the state validating the electors. It’s a package.
But it’s important, too, because in the event of competing slates of electors, the electors who have the stamp of approval from the state’s executive are the ones whose votes will count. We’re getting into the weeds a bit here, but it’s worth summarizing our past, lengthier looks at this.
In short, it is possible that both Biden and Trump electors could meet in their states on Dec. 14 to cast their votes for president. Both sets of electors could transmit those votes to Washington. The House and Senate, when opening the votes on Jan. 6 — the final step in determining the winner — would then have two slates of electors from, say, Wisconsin. The House and Senate would vote on which slate to accept. Given the composition of each body, it’s possible that the House might pick the Biden electors and the Senate the Trump ones.
If things got that far (which isn’t likely), the Electoral Count Act of 1887 has a tiebreaker: “The votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof” are the ones that count. In other words, if there’s such a split on Wisconsin, it’s the Biden electors who are supposed to win.
As it stands, the vote has been certified in about half the states. There are a lot more electoral votes for Biden in states that haven’t certified their votes than there are for Trump, but there’s no real question that the largest — California, Illinois, New Jersey and New York — will certify for Biden. Biden has a lead among the states that have already transmitted their certificates of ascertainment to D.C.
But, again, those states include most of the ones that Trump is currently fighting to overturn. He wants to claim he won Arizona — but the certificate of ascertainment already indicates under the governor’s signature and with the state seal that the electors go to Biden. Same with Pennsylvania and Michigan and Georgia. Biden not only won those states, he has the backup documentation he needs in case Trump really starts to take things sideways. And with those states alone, he passes the 270 electoral-vote mark.
It’s over. It’s been over for nearly a month, of course, but now it’s over over. Biden is going to get the electoral votes he needs to be president, and even if there’s a dispute in Washington when those votes are counted, his votes will be counted in the states where Trump has been most fervent about alleging fraud.
None of this will matter to the president, given that he is by now approaching the contest from outside the realm of reality. But it will matter to Congress and to the country.
- And his idiot followers still cry “It’s coming” like the delusional assholes they are. It’s over over. Fuck off.monospaced
- I hope they continue to line his pockets as he prepares for bankruptcy court. Sad suckers the lot of them. Donate to the cause. Idiots.monospaced
- How much did you donate to his failed mission, Raybandana, aka Claymantis?monospaced
- Who?Raybandana
- From Trump's perspective, there is plenty of time to give him more money.zarkonite
- How much did you donate to Trump, Raybandana?monospaced
- I dont like trumpRaybandana
- Then why the constant shitposts about how he will win and how Biden is corrupt? Fucking idiot.monospaced
- Ramanisky23
- Americans!nb
- this isn't going to end wellmonNom
- bonkersFax_Benson
- good god.ben_
- Sammy Davis Jr. looks pretty goodsrhadden
- Phil Hartman, zat you?stoplying
- this is fucked up on the highest level!renderedred
- yuekit3
Sometimes I try to read conservative sites to see what they are thinking, get out of the bubble etc...OK here's top comments of the first random article I clicked on.
I know the term fascism gets overused these days, but does this not sound like fascism?
- https://i.kym-cdn.co…inv
- lunatics everywherefadein11
- FLOLiradaPhanLo
- One of the comments on that vid on youtube said something like very eloquent speech given without notes.microkorg
- ROFL! erm.... teleprompter?microkorg
- Trump paid Ivanka for consulting and does lots of business in China.monospaced
- And he’s beholden to international bankers of certain backgrounds (communist).monospaced
- lol @ last comment, spot-on monoSalarrue
- Bottom line, just come out and say it you don’t want America overrun by ni**ers, spicks, and queers. Everything else you say is smoke._niko
- Weird how these redneck CS-Go cosplay cucks still support a man who's never even driven a car or shaved his own face.monospaced
- Since when does man-bitch ritchi-rich fat fuck soft hand dodge drafting stupid cunt with a silver spoon represent low-class working America? GTFO.monospaced
- maybe they're all russian bots talking to each other?sarahfailin
- lol does the person/bot who left the last comment realize he's calling for the execution of Trump?nb
- srhadden-1
- Miesfan4
- I'd hit it, while I hit it.MarleyMarl
- Victoria Jackson?fooler
- is she drunk? LOLKrassy
- Is that the chick Twin Peaks?Ramanisky2
- nope, definitely not Lucy, but it does feel like we are all living in the black lodge right nowVandal7
- It’s all theatre for Twitter sound bites.instrmntl
- America is so fucked so hard....Hayomook has a raging boner from it.utopian
- Is she drunk? lolmicrokorg
- This is so funny. Holy shit this is funny.nb
- Everyone has met people like this, there is no way she will be taken seriously.nb
- this is like a comedy sketch. america is fucked!renderedred
- MarleyMarl5
This might push Donny Dumbfuckwit over the edge.
The Obamas Are Producing a Sketch Comedy Series About the Trump Administration's Chaos.
- Raybandana-2
- This claim about election fraud is disputed.palimpsest
- Because this isn’t evidence of anything.monospaced
- RaybanBOBORamanisky2
- Ramanisky2-5
- The moron is back again. This Trump says enought. A lie. Garrison is such a hack.tank02
- where are they walking to? shouldn't they be heading to the white house? Why is there so much curvature in the earth on this?capn_ron
- I'm surprised Ben Garrison isn't a flat-earther.bulletfactory
- Bit lazy. Thin. Phoning it in.nb
- They were never his to begin withFNP14
- I stand by my theory that Ben has some weird Don porn that he's drawn and stashed away on a sticky USB.garbage
- Ramanisky26
Here’s that crazy Victoria Jackson lady from those Michigan hearings yesterday
https://www.exploretalent.com/me…
- she's got a face like a dropped pie.sausages
- Jersey Shore?elahon
- Seems about right_niko
- BWAHA! First time I've heard that, sausage.bezoar
- Lolz at sausagesinstrmntl
- "it's her passion!" - LOLzutopian
- the photos she's chosen for her profile are mind bogglingbogue
- I'd still hit. Drunken rage style.MarleyMarl
- Can’t be real, it’s that simple. No one would choose this for their profile pic. On a model talent site. Come on guys. Don’t be so gulliblenb
- Wonder if she could point to the Mediterranean on a globe within 10 secondselDoctor
- nb5
That witness is this character. This is what the president is basing his case on?
- nb0
"Big Rally Saturday Night in Georgia!!!"
Trump is holding a rally?!(?!!?
What a fuck! haha
- He's intentionally trying to fuck the senate races, at this point.Continuity
- Trump is like the Coronavirus
He will not go away, he infects everyone everywhere that he goes and people are sick of him.utopian - How could this hurt senate races?nb
- whatthefunk1
- From my own experience the party really begins when the cool ones leave and there's only weirdos left.palimpsest
- zaq5
- utopian7
Mary Trump Has Sold More Books in One Month Than ‘Art Of The Deal’ Sold In 29 Years.
Lest We Forget
- yuekit3
Trump's Director of Intelligence admits there is no evidence of any foreign manipulation of the voting process.
But there is evidence of "foreign adversaries" (who he refuses to name) spreading Trump's made up claims of election fraud to undermine American democracy.
So in other words he's hard at work defending America against our enemies' propaganda efforts...which is also being generated by his own boss, the guy he supports and voted for.
- negative reality inversion.
his face says it all lolfadein11
- negative reality inversion.
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