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- NBQ00-1
Twitter should ban the whole Trump family. Now that would be funny.
- instrmntl0
Cristopher Wylie
- instrmntl6
Christopher Wylie
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Congratulating Facebook or Twitter for finally banning Donald Trump is like congratulating an oil company for cleaning up their toxic spill.
- neverscared1
classic
- This is what the other side thought was such an outrage.CyBrainX
- nb2
Re: getting banned in Twitter
https://twitter.com/nhbaptiste/s…Conservatives: LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE
Free market: *decides*
Conservatives: this is outRAGEOUS
- PhanLo0
Fucking around and finding out - the extended version.
-- I could see why they thought they'd be able to get through that window, they had very little resistance. But I guys the security guard never got the memo.PhanLo
- Very little resistance means help in this case.CyBrainX
- I just saw a video of a Republican senator opening a fire exit to let people in.PhanLo
- dkoblesky1
My opinion: That was their big day. They made their plans, packed their backpacks with their MREs and got their flags.
In the end they failed, and look like the bunch of cosplay militia that they actually are. The idea that they are going to get it together to make an even bigger thing happen now after this failure is ludicrous.
These people are getting arrested in droves. Sure a few people may blow something up, or shoot something up....but they will be isolated...and they have been doing that anyway, white supremicists, for years.
I have neighbors who had Trump flags on their lawn. I cannot see them rioting violently anytime soon. They just don't like liberals...but they are not ready to die over it, or even get arrested.
In the end there is no there there. What do they stand for?
- The one who could answer that for the entire nation wasn't brave enough to stand up and speak.sted
- exactly:
"Storm the Capitol! I'll be right there with you!"
cowarddkoblesky - I like this take.DRIFTMONKEY
- Exactly what I have been saying for years. 100% this. The idea they might just commit murder over Trump is stupid AF.monospaced
- whatthefunk7
To anyone complaining about a private media company like Twitter kicking Trump off of their platform:
Think of Twitter as a Christian bakery and Trump as a gay wedding cake!
- yupGuyFawkes
- For anyone defending Twitter kicking Trump of their platform:
Think of Twitter as a Christian bakery and Trump as a gay wedding cake!palimpsest - Everybody wins!palimpsest
- No. The metaphor is if trump walks into the bakery and starts shitting on the floor. Then asks everyone else to do the same. And then he’s told to go away.monospaced
- The gay couple was told they wouldn’t be served because they were gay. Not because they violated any rules of civility or business.monospaced
- But I'm this metaphor Trump is a gay cake, not the client.
Giving a cake a sexual orientation is already pushing it. We're not gonna make it shit on the floor.palimpsest
- yuekit0
They should have been consistent and banned him a long time ago. Any other person would have been banned hundreds of times for the things he posted. So this is Twitter finally applying the rules to Trump, not the other way around.
And if there was ever an argument for banning someone from Twitter this is it. He is a deeply unstable person who is issuing orders to millions of people. He incited his followers to actually break into Congress to overthrow an election lol. So why would you take the risk, legal and otherwise, of keeping his account going?
Having said that knowing the level of political discussion in America right now a lot of people will ignore all of that and simply equate this with "big tech censorship." And then call for terrible solutions like Section 230 of the Communications Act being repealed, which has nothing to do with free speech.
You can already hear the Joe Rogans of the world..."OK sure breaking into Congress was bad but these tech companies bro...they literally destroyed the First Amendment" *takes bong hit
So I'm kind of ambivalent about this decision. I understand why they did it on the merits (and may have been forced to for legal or financial reasons), but it's hard to see how this doesn't just pour gasoline on the dumpster fire that is US politics.
- strategically the best thing was NOT to ban him. and yes, he should have been kicked out years ago even before the presidency. vile cunt that he is.renderedred
- I'm also ambivalent about it. I don't think they did the right thing but rather the convenient one.palimpsest
- They don't have my sympathy but I can't find an argument against it.palimpsest
- section 230 is not an issue, something is very wrong with these social media companies and their setup to begin with.renderedred
- Yeah it's very clear now they encourage rampant sensationalism, misinformation and conspiracies. What is shocking is how many people in an educated societyyuekit
- fall for it...I never would have guessed in a million years you'd see something like this.yuekit
- Maybe it's not about the law and there is simply a better way to structure these apps (in terms of user experience etc) so we can avoid negative side of them.yuekit
- i agree, fundamentally something has to change in the concept of social media itself.renderedred
- i was also surprised how far it went.renderedred
- Did the right thing, Trump is/was too dangerous and insane. Fuel for the fire is reduced that way.neverscared
- PhanLo3
On ye's go boys.
Republican Rep. Mike Nearman opens doors to his pals.
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- yuekit1
- It's a website to sell books.PhanLo
- Poor coked-up illiterate bastard probably can't even read the book he 'wrote'.Continuity
- every cell of this dweeb oozes privilege. C grade actor for a beard trimmer commercialtank02
- Vagina mouth strikes again.monospaced
- He’s a cuntNBQ00
- dkoblesky2
Part of this is 'duh' but it is still worth reading
'The White Male Effect'
https://undark.org/2021/01/07/sc…
As a white male, I have a hard time understanding being threatened by people who are not white male. Where I work my manager is a woman, and 3 layers above, all women. I work with all kinds of POC who are my peers. It doesn't bother me a bit.
But many many white males feel differently. That is who all these people are. I guess the just LOVE being a white male....and the idea of someone who is not being a White male makes them crazy...
- Cosmopolitan affect.shapesalad
- It might be because they think they’re better than anyone who isn’t white, or a male. Like many who have graced this board in the past. MGTOWmonospaced
- jonny_quest_lives4
Not sure it's been posted yet but Vice News posted a video of Trump's January 6th speech with footage from the days events... Followed by his remorseful speech. It needs to be played during his impeachment hearing and all Representatives and Senators need to watch it. I am sure there is nothing new here yet this is the first speech of his i listened to in it's entirety in years as my usual response to news about him and or his rallies is F this guy. This was a Hitler-esque performance and truly chilling. He wound up his terrrorists with flattery and bravado just like Hitler would then turned them loose on than Capitol. Again this man is a danger to society and not to be laughed off. He feeds the id of the White Nationalists and the Radical Right in a manner we have not seen since Hitler.
- apologizing for misspellings in advance... this is pretty close to rage typing for mejonny_quest_lives
- true.renderedred
- really? -1. Vice is as bad if not worse than the media channels castigated and rejected on this thread for having a ‘right wing’ agenda. Your rage has been...Morning_star
- ...manipulated and enhanced in exactly, ‘EXACTLY’ the same way as Fox and others enrage Trumps supporters. The language you use is idiotic and you should...Morning_star
- ...consider what it means to label someone terrorist, white nationalist, radical right in the same post as likening someone to Hitler. I don’t know if you’re...Morning_star
- ...in the US but this isn’t the way to heal your broken country.Morning_star
- explain my feelings more to me morning star please... its really cathartic. does Trump give you the feels when he calls you brave and smart?jonny_quest_lives
- again i was pointing out how Trump needs to be removed from office as this whole event tracks back to this speech and his followersjonny_quest_lives
- do i regularly follow vice? no... it was fucking partly founded by gavin fucking mcginnis the founder of oroud boysjonny_quest_lives
- *proud boys who are terrorists. in this instance i had not heard the speech and yes it was edited.jonny_quest_lives
- i dont want to argue here... but healing my country doesnt involve ignoring the dangers here or any whataboutismsjonny_quest_lives
- Morning Star just believes all christian fascists should be given the benefit of the doubt. So far it's working out well.PhanLo
- It amazes me that a country like the US would allow that bloated toddler within 100miles of the White House let alone give him the presidency for four years.Morning_star
- Either way mate, seeing the way those people stormed the Capitol building like that is fucked up. Whether it was Vice or not, you can see what happenedIanbolton
- so let's make this less pointed...jonny_quest_lives
- What amazes me more than that is that on the eve of The Tiny Prick leaving, no one in the US can do anything other than give the idiot more fuel for his...Morning_star
- I consider anyone who organized or planned to take/storm the Capitol in advance a terrorist.jonny_quest_lives
- ...’movement’. 50% of your countrymen voted for him a second time, you need to be engaging with them not demonising them.Morning_star
- Trump enabled it and fed it. so any "protesters" caught up in that should be charged separately.jonny_quest_lives
- Trump however falls into a different category and needs to be removed via the 25th or impeachment fair enough?jonny_quest_lives
- is that free of "labels" enoughjonny_quest_lives
- yes 70+ million people voted for him... 80+ million voted for Biden it's how we decide elections... Storming the Capitol deserves accountability and shamingjonny_quest_lives
- which the video does... Also as far as getting along with the ".50% of your countrymen" who voted for himjonny_quest_lives
- I need to worry about the people who don't vote who feel none of this matters... as there are over 100 million Americans who didn't bother to votejonny_quest_lives
- maybe a popular vote resolves this I don't really know but the electoral college is the single driver of the fractured two party systemjonny_quest_lives
- then again a truly democratic yes/no up/down vote system resulted in brexit in the UKjonny_quest_lives
- so yes... engagement and discussion all valid. but when people storm the capitol looking for Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence with zip tie cuffsjonny_quest_lives
- "demonising' these actions and those who enabled it might be appropriate at the least. this country had over 3 years of investigations on Benghazijonny_quest_lives
- I think you’re right JQL, the problem is the systems and processes. Elections, policy and opinion are all for sale, coupled with a two party system that...Morning_star
- Led by people like Representative Jim Jordan and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo who know suddenly are big proponents of moving forward and "Unifying"jonny_quest_lives
- *nowjonny_quest_lives
- ...writes its own future and leaves nothing for the electorate to decide I was bound to produce something like we’re witnessing now.Morning_star
- giving Trump room to breath on this shitshow allows he and his enablers to scurry off with no repercussions/accoun...jonny_quest_lives
- BTW the brexit vote result was largely because of ignorance, lies and an underestimation of what Brexit actually meant. Not our finest moment.Morning_star
- ok_not_ok3
a lot of clean-shaven dudes these a past couple of days...
