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- palimpsest-2
- Did you forget about Putin, Comey and the Electoral College?CyBrainX
- And Antifa!
#StopTheSteal?palimpsest - Lost the popular votesrhadden
- He didn't get elected?
We shoulda stormed the Capitol!palimpsest
- Morning_star0
Is it true that Red vs Blue, Maga vs Antifa, Left vs Right, Pro-Trump vs Anti-Trump is conveniently distracting US citizens from concentrating their protests against a governmental system that is currupt, unfair and broken?
And, even though there is a change of Chief Clown the issues and problems both sides identify will still be present?
Maybe it would be a good idea to talk to those on the other side rather than ridicule them. I'd wager that you have more in common than you'd expect.
- Makes sense to me. But it´s
utopia.valentim - haha no I don't think this kind of generic "both sides bad" is an accurate assessment of the current situation. Have you turned on the news recently?yuekit
- The GOP are blatant about their cruelty and don't give a shit who knows. Dems and libs hide behind neoliberalism to excuse their particular fuckery.face_melter
- The neolib project of the past 50+ years has utterly failed *everyone*.face_melter
- @yeukit i think it's more like 'both sides busy fighting and missing the real problem'Morning_star
- This sums it up well. https://m.youtube.co…Chimp
- well put morning_starrenderedred
- I've tried just talking to the other side. They can't go 2 seconds without spewing a conspiracy. It's nearly impossible to respond without ridicule.monospaced
- If we time travel back to the mid 90s or something maybe I'd agree. But I don't think this does justice to the unhinged era we just lived through.yuekit
- @mono @Yuekit at some point you'll be eyeballs deep in the mire that was the US, still blaming the other side. Rest easy in the knowledge that you gave the...Morning_star
- ...best insult as you search the ruins of a country you have helped to destroy.Morning_star
- I'll rest easy that I am on the right side of history, sure. But the idea I helped destroy a country? Grow up.monospaced
- Morning_star of course no one wants to fight or live in a divided country. But circumstances are not always the same, there are genuinely bad leaders...yuekit
- How do you sympathize and discuss anything serious with someone who says Biden and Kamala are communists who are selling the country to China?monospaced
- I wonder if you would be willing to make the same argument if we were talking about another country. Like say Putin finally steps down in Russia, replaced by ayuekit
- moderate, more democratic leader. Or Erdogan, Maduro, take your pick... Well guys, it's just one asshole replacing another asshole!yuekit
- I'm not talking about the leadership Yuekit. I'm talking about a populace that is so arrogant or ignorant that they are willing to ignore a fucked up system...Morning_star
- ...to argue and fight with their fellow country men. Those in power, whoever they are, are laughing at their citizens as they fight amongst themselves.Morning_star
- No one's ignoring a fucked up system. The guy who just left was another problem on top of all that, so it's a great thing he's gone.yuekit
- The system still exists, no?Morning_star
- Nobody is ignoring anything.monospaced
- Bipartisanship, reaching out to the other side is actually a constant theme of US politics. I think Biden might have ran more ads from Republicans endorsing himyuekit
- than Democrats lol. Trump represented the opposite approach of total scorched earth partisanship.yuekit
- I am struggling to draw a line between insulting the other side and how that has any bearing on the existence of the system. They aren't even related.monospaced
- In terms of "the system"...of course there are a lot of structural problems in US society but I think you have to be realistic. The pandemic is an urgent crisisyuekit
- that needs to be addressed. Climate change is an even more serious crisis for the entire world. If Republicans want to work together to solve these thingsyuekit
- in a serious, science-based way there isn't a single person on the left or center-left who wouldn't welcome that.yuekit
- @yeukit. The system is what gave you the Orange Toddler for 4 yrs, it's what allows corporations to dictate law, it's what keeps folk in the gutter, it's what..Morning_star
- American citizens can dismantle their entire political system as easily as they can in your country. Until you fix that mess, you should'nt really criticize.monospaced
- ...allows you politicians to get fat and lethargic with huge bribes. Do you not see how the governmental system is where the problems start. Fix it first, it..Morning_star
- ...easier to tackle healthcare, climate etc Don't rely on bought and paid for politicians to come to your aid, they won't, they value the status quo too much.Morning_star
- @mono can you not see that pitching two polarised sides against each other is distracting and retains the status quo.Morning_star
- I understand what you're saying, but once again, it's not the average voters that are to blame. Tell me how you changed the status quo in your nation first. Txmonospaced
- In the meantime, ridiculing the bigoted, mouthbreathing, ignorant fucks who voted for and continue to support Trump is totally fair and unrelated.monospaced
- @mono also, an outside perspective is often the most useful. Yes, the UK system has it's problems but they're nothing like the ones you have.Morning_star
- From an outside perspective, and with all due respect, I wholeheartedly disagree on that point. Additionally, we just voted out the biggest problem. :)monospaced
- After spending a lot of time in the developing world, of course the USA has problems but it's still incredibly privileged compared to 90% of humanity.yuekit
- I have friends and family who don't get to live under a democracy, who don't have any hope of getting even basic welfare or support from their government.yuekit
- @yuekit Are you're happy to put up with the likes of Trump?Morning_star
- @mono. With respect, i disagree. You still have a broken system that gave you Trump. What's to stop an even worse candidate running your country in 4yrs. Also,Morning_star
- ...Biden ain't all that.Morning_star
- Dude, you're STILL implying that voters did something wrong by voting? We don't have the control to kill the system, just like you don't. Derp.monospaced
- You're blaming voters for not overthrowing the system? You have the same broken system that gave you a shitty leader. Do something about it first. We'll follow.monospaced
- Morning_star I think the reasons for Trump becoming president are actually a bit different from what you might be assuming.yuekit
- @uekit. I think Trump was voted in because a majority of the country was fucked off with Clinton/Bush dynasties and he didn't act/sound like the politicians...Morning_star
- ...they didn't trust. He also promised them a new America.Morning_star
- @mono Your system has given you the choice of two flawed geriatrics and claims that these are the best men to run the most powerful country in the world...Morning_star
- ...Does that not give you a motive to try and do something?Morning_star
- Biden and Trump are simply the result of people voting in primaries. Biden isn't my first choice or my 100th choice, but that's what Americans voted for.yuekit
- The candidates that online people favored such as Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard for instance, got almost no votes. So is that the system's fault or simplyyuekit
- people having a different opinion from you? If what you said about reaching out and understanding other citizens holds true, shouldn't we respect their choice?yuekit
- Fair enough, but there is little to no respect around here for anyone even slightly right of centre. As for 'choice', that is entirely dependent on how...Morning_star
- ...deep the candidates pockets are.Morning_star
- I'm sure there are many conservative leaders in other countries I'd be totally fine with. But sorry, as a second generation immigrant I just can't get on boardyuekit
- with a party that has all this nationalist/anti-imm... rhetoric. Not to mention anti-science, anti-globalization, etc.yuekit
- And is now effectively a personality cult organized around a TV celebrity. It's not as if it's a very high bar we're setting here lolyuekit
- When i was younger Conservative was not a dirty word that conjured images of closed borders and echos of National Socialism. Until the distance between right..Morning_star
- ..and left is bridged I fear for the future of the US.Morning_star
- Makes sense to me. But it´s
- nb0
About an hour left in the white house, supposedly.
I really wonder what he’s doing in there this morning.
Watching TV, probably? Seeing what people are saying about him?
- writting that letter to Joe?
https://edition.cnn.…Bluejam - Blank page with his singnature maybe?D4W33D
- A little drawing? i really want to know...D4W33D
- He's taking a massive greasy shit and is not gonna flush it. He's a child.Morning_star
- writting that letter to Joe?
- nb5
“Could you imagine if I lose?” he said at a rally in Georgia in October. “My whole life, what am I going to do? I’m going to say I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics. I’m not going to feel so good. Maybe I’ll have to leave the country. I don’t know.”
- lolfadein11
- We don't want him in Scotland. I suppose Florida is like a different country.PhanLo
- Florida is one of the states Trumpers are hoping will secede.palimpsest
- Bugs Bunny had the right idea.Continuity
- Continuity2
All that remains is to see if he's going to shoot his bitch mouth off again when he lands at the air force base, or if some grown ups managed to finally fucking muzzle him.
- grown ups - LOL, perfect!mort_
- he’ll be spitting his mouth off the rest of his lifemonospaced
- So, less than 10 months then.
$100 on it.Nairn - I’ll take that betmonospaced
- Continuity0
- most humble trump speech ever.fadein11
- And we're done. Good riddance to really, really bad, rancid rubbish.Continuity
- indeed.fadein11
- grafician0
JUST IN: President Trump left a letter at the White House for President-elect Joe Biden
- probably it's a trap, careful Joe!grafician
- https://i.kym-cdn.co…Bluejam
- Dear Joe, you lose, I won, you know it, I know it. But I'll let you be President anyway. Bye.Bennn
- ^lol yupGuyFawkes
- Written in crayonbainbridge
- CyBrainX5
Is he arrested yet?
- the moment he steps out of air force 1 would be huge. like no one has seen before...renderedred
- I'm still holding out hope for a squad of FBI agents sitting back at Mar-a-Lago waiting for him to arrive.Continuity
- I love the idea, but he hasn't been charged with a crime yet.monospaced
- Presumably, the charge(s) would be stated during the arrest, prior to the Miranda warning being read.Continuity
- True true. What charges?monospaced
- Sedition and obstruction of justice would be my choice, all things considered.Continuity
- Personally, I'm holding out for the NY attorney generals to do their worst. It's been a long time coming, and they have all his tax returns.monospaced
- he'll go down in ny i agreerenderedred
- LOL rich people don't get arrested that way. They get a phone call and asked to come in to discuss.nb
- Yeah, that's true.Continuity
- I will accept any and all of these possibilities. Add inciting violence, insurrection, fraud, treason, etc.CyBrainX
- instrmntl4
// End thread.
- Soon.Continuity
- Can someone print this thread on paper and send it to the lump?dasohr
- pleaseGuyFawkes
- PhanLo11
- Greta played the long game. She won. +1 Gretacherub
- nice way to say Fuck OffBennn
- well played gretarenderedred
- Take him away!GuyFawkes