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- It is a choice. And a lot of their viewpoints are bigoted, ignorant, hateful and shameful. Most can't share their views in public without pissing off good peoplmonospaced
- ^ There is absolutely nothing bigoted, ignorant, hateful or shameful from being conservative. Rhetoric like that is toxic. Toxic mono.inteliboy
- ;) sorry I couldn't resistinteliboy
- You’re right. Conservative in itself isn’t the issue. It’s some of their views that are. It’s not a mystery what those views are.monospaced
- Only thing toxic is that racism and bigotry and fear still underpin so much of what conservatives believe in the USA.monospaced
- Both left and right in politics are an absolute necessity in providing a coherent and fair society. Projecting prejudices about extremist positions...Morning_star
- ...onto one or the other is toxic.Morning_star
- I'm only projecting in the sense that this person is referencing in "lifestyle." I'm not that naive. Calling me toxic is naive.monospaced
- Morning_star, what if one side actually does have extremist positions?yuekit
- Watching Trump on TV for two years and concluding "this guy is doing an amazing job, this is who I want as leader" is not normal.yuekit
- Yeukit, both sides have a spectrum of supporters, some extreme, most are reasonable. Projecting baseless accusations of extremism on to supporters of a whole...Morning_star
- ... political ideology is divisive and polarising. And only nurtures conflict. Dialogue and understanding is the key. Ignorance and unruths are toxic.Morning_star
- Conservatism as a whole has some worthy ideas I'm sure. Modern day conservatism in the U.S. has gone badly off track to put it mildly lol.yuekit
- I get that you're trying to be even handed, but it borders on the absurd to pretend both sides are equally bad when Trump is making statements like the oneyuekit
- below and 80-90% of U.S. Republicans support him.yuekit
- Offering US 'Conservatism' as an example of what the Political Right fundamentally stands for is a mistake. To then focus that 'truth' through the lens of...Morning_star
- ...Trump is madness. Trump and the US don't define what is or isn't conservative. The political spectrum exists independently. Criticising that political...Morning_star
- ...spectrum because Trump is a fucking moron is stupid and divisive and ultimately part of the problem.Morning_star
- I actually don't think there is any specific meaning you can attach to the term "political right," unless you want to go back to the original meaningyuekit
- which was pro-monarchy/ anti-democracy. Since then it's meant different things in different times and places.yuekit
- What it stands for right now is Trump and other nationalist movements. Also this thread is literally named Donald Trump so hardly unfair to bring him up :)yuekit
- I think there are specific common and universal features you can apply to 'Left Wing' and 'Right Wing'. They are not subjective positions...Morning_star
- ..Add to the Left-right axis another spanning Authoritarian and Libertarian and you have a model that illustrates the western political universe.Morning_star
- Trump is a loose canon business man in that political universe and to criticise the universe because of an arsehole president is a dishonest pursuit.Morning_star
- He is unique in terms of his unstable personality but he also represents the current direction of conservatism. Nationalist, authoritarian, anti-immigrant, etc.yuekit
- Over 60 million conservatives voted for him in the U.S. and almost every Western country has a similar nationalist right-wing movement.yuekit
- If conservatives don't want to be viewed that way, perhaps they should stop supporting these kinds of leaders.yuekit
- This article goes some way in explaining... https://www.theguard…Morning_star
- Yes there were a lot of articles like that as Trump was winning the primary. The problem is actual conservative voters showed they could not care less.yuekit
- And in that we can agree. Voter ignorance and apathy gave us Trump (and Brexit). Arguably, America got what it deserved.Morning_star
- youngdesigner0
- "But the bombastic responses ignored the substance and true tenor of the meeting, which was more measured and less partisan than Breitbart implied."Bluejam
- "Nevertheless, the leaked video will likely only fuel the Republican narrative that major technology companies are biased against conservatives."Bluejam
- review of video and above quotes
https://www.theguard…Bluejam - A normal conversation and analysis. Conservatives are crying babiesSalarrue
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- BonSeff4
What the literal fuck!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTr…
"3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000..."
- He's fucking mental.elahon
- He really is fucking revolting.Continuity
- this is epic! insane.renderedred
- in his first 3 months, i suggested a psych evaluation, never taken seriously boohoo, then 27 doctors got together and wrote a book :) he is clinically insane.********
- Is he trying to invent his own form of holocaust denial?yuekit
- Who says A Pluses... besides preschoolers? every word, every tweet, every appearance on tv, America, have you lost your damn mind (david alan grier)********
- maybe i'll get it right this time, with all the impeachment, financial shady shit, family, mental state, twitter history, is he going for an insanity plea soon?********
- plea? that's a legal thing when you're charged with a crime, which he isn'tmonospaced
- What was the actual death toll?
Seems to be massive inconsistencies
https://en.wikipedia…Hayzilla
- yuekit0
^ When Trump posts a tweet like the one above, do you think he knows he's spreading false info and is doing it deliberately?
Or does he genuinely not understand these basic facts even though it's easy to look up?
- the lattermonospaced
- you watch him on TV in the 80s / 90s and he literally made stuff up, on the spot, back then. I don't think objective truth has concerned him for decadesFax_Benson
- most people would worry about being fact-checked and made to look stupid. He's free of all that. Must be an exhilarating way to live.Fax_Benson
- he's fact-checked and made to look stupid all day, everyday, and has been since he started his campaignmonospaced
- er, yeahFax_Benson
- Authorities really dont know!! https://www.snopes.c…robotron3k
- They don’t know if it’s 3k or 4K. They KNOW it’s not 100.monospaced
- They dropped it 22% to get to 3k robotard. Conclusion is that trump is either lying, or is so delusional he actually believes this.monospaced
- I think he has a dotard's understanding of basic facts. Then says the exact opposite. He's a pathological liar.BusterBoy
- I think he realizes his fanboys are dumb enough to believe anything he says. The rest of the world just shakes their heads, but the "fans" cheer.formed
- Fax_Benson2
- bit weirdFax_Benson
- This can’t be an actual Garrisonmonospaced
- Funny how he labeled the man boobs and fat rolls. God is a micropenis though, so that is accurate.monospaced
- Hehehe https://en.m.wikiped… in full effect...robotron3k
- Wrong again robo.monospaced
- And only people who have used the term are Ted Cruz, Paul Rand and a Fox News host. You have a bad case of Trump Apologist Syndrome.monospaced
- I hope this cartoon is meant to be sarcastic/ satire. If not it's the dumbest but funniest shit at the same time I've seen lately.NBQ00
- grab him by the godfadein11
- Free speech eh?********
- fadein110
Trump Team’s Conflicts and Scandals: An Interactive Guide
- youngdesigner-1
- Amarikanz will re-elect him?Bennn
- They even brought Obama back to run against him in 2020robotron3k
- Wrong again robomonospaced
- 2x4=9 ?Bennn
- formed3
There's a little hope. Maybe the morons out there will still follow the mindless herd, but if the money starts moving away then there could be real change.
Wealthiest Republican supporter in Ohio quits party
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-br…
Wexner called Obama’s visit to Ohio this week a “great moment for the community,” according to the Dispatch.
“I was struck by the genuineness of the man; his candor, humility and empathy for others,” Wexner said.The newspaper noted that the comments stand in stark contrast to what the GOP supporter has said about President Trump.
The billionaire CEO reportedly said in a speech last year that he was “ashamed” by Trump’s response to the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., that erupted in violence and led to the death of a 32-year-old woman.
The Ohio businessman has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Republican candidates and groups over the years, including giving $250,000 to a super PAC backing Sen. Rob Portman's (R) reelection campaign in 2016 and nearly $70,000 to GOP committees and candidates in Ohio and other states, the Dispatch noted.
Wexner isn't the only person to renounce their GOP affiliation this year. In August, Michael London, a former member of the Trumbull Town Council in Connecticut, announced he was leaving the party because it was "no longer the party that I believed in all these years."
- lowimpakt1
the full Active Measures documentary is on youtube
some annoying aspects but it's a complex story
- fucking hell, started to see it yesterday. didn't finish and now it's unavailable.********
- gone now, yep it's not perfect and can see how some may think it's anti-Trump propaganda but it tells a compelling story mostly comprising of public domain infofadein11
- fucking hell, started to see it yesterday. didn't finish and now it's unavailable.
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- mg331
Just. Leaving. This. Right. Here...
- what now?monospaced
- "I lay there, annoyed that I was getting fucked by a guy with Yeti pubes and a dick like the mushroom character in Mario Kart"BonSeff
- oh, okay thenmonospaced
- LOL, Toad was the best character in Mario Kart, so versatile, so agile.ben_
- BusterBoy2
NSFW probably...but I don't care.
- lowimpakt2
"one of the wettest we've ever seen from the standpoint of water"
- a president
- still nobody's told him that cramming adjectives and superlatives in where facts and figures and basic knowledge should be, doesn't work.Fax_Benson
- review of pee pee tape?Bluejam
- Still boggles my mind how people can support this punk. Do people really believe this is how "normal" people talk? The bad joke continues...formed
- @Fax it works with dumbfuck conservative Trump supportersmonospaced
- Ramanisky23
WTF .. LOL
https://twitter.com/the_unsilent…- weird. what happens next? is there more?Fax_Benson
- Bet he's saying "Thhhhhhhank you."Hayzilla
- https://images-cdn.9…
https://media1.tenor…Bluejam - OMG... I cannot stop laughing at this.mg33
- utopian1
- He's just riffing trough this whole thing, huh?ben_
- he has to clarify 'from the standpoint of water' because in his mind when he says 'wettest' he thinks of pussy, and, his 12yo mind believes everyonehobgoblin
- else around him must too. So, for them, so he can appear the smartest, he clarifies 'from the standpoint of water' thinking they'll all be like 'oh'hobgoblin
- when in fact they're all like 'you dense motherfucker'hobgoblin
- https://www.youtube.…BonSeff
