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- I was 7, about to move to the US. The enrolled me in English lessons.palimpsest
- I thought my mom would hire those same English teachers and students to later pretend I was living in another country while they would only redecorate the bldg.palimpsest
- They would keep me inside the building for the rest of my life while making me believe I was in another country.palimpsest
- Actually, when I was 6 I thought my family were aliens wearing flesh suits. It turned out the truth was more complex (see above).palimpsest
- did you ever find a proof they let you out of the building?uan
- My bubble was popped when I arrived to tropical Miami in the middle of summer. I knew my moms didn't have the budget for global warming.palimpsest
- hehe palimpsest, please make this into a short story/children's book, this is fantastic!_niko
- Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
https://www.qbn.com/…palimpsest - ahhh what the hell, that was brilliant, you had me till the end lol. I was still impressed, I was going to say you remind me of Ray Bradbury lol_niko
- Based on a true story, you can't say that story isn't mine. I'm working on the following chapters if you're interested.palimpsest
- of course! concept is king, the rest is merely filler. if it's Warhol or Michelangelo using assistants to complete work, or Miyazaki using animators to do the_niko
- ...legwork, ai has just unlocked infinite resources at our disposal. Time is our greatest enemy in getting shit done, now we have no excuses._niko
- In the end, I'm not looking for credit. But sharing my story in a way that is better articulated than the sidenotes I already posted.palimpsest
- Thanks for being a friendly ear.palimpsest
- utopian1
Elon Musk said in a post on the social platform X that the brand new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) — an advisory group under President-elect Trump focused on slashing government costs and restructuring federal agencies — will require “tedious work” with “zero” compensation.
To apply for a job at Elon Musk’s DOGE, you’ll need to pay for an X premium subscription.
- renderedred1
Elon Musk serves up disconcerting AI art
- dasohr9
he's a twat.
end of story.
- A twat with 326 billion dollars. The story might continue a bit after this comment was made.jagara
- A man can make money but money can't make a man!lemoucheron
- “What is a village without village idiots ?”neverscared
- A village idiot with 326 billion dollars.jagara
- (not saying "has money = is worthy of money")jagara
- mg333
I hate to admit I'm putting any energy into it, but the secondhand embarrassment I feel for literally every single thing Musk says, does, thinks, and tweets is intense.
The angst I feel towards intellectually stunted dopes who think he's some kind of wise prophet is equally intense.
- late recognition creates enormous internal conflict in many peoplested
- mg333
I don't often ruminate on conspiracy theories or come up with them, but I've got a growing one with Twitter / X.
We didn't see the right-ification of Elon coming until the past year, actually, even the past six months. But even then I wondered what he could do with access to user accounts, IP addresses, etc. even on anonymous accounts using anonymous email accounts.
There's a story out there about X's issues with The Onion buying Infowars:
Musk's X claims ownership of InfoWars accounts in sale to The Onion
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/26…That wasn't what ultimately made me think this because I've been thinking about it for a while, but it added to the worry: if Elon can do whatever he wants with X, X accounts, user info, etc. what's to prevent him from gathering info on anti-MAGA accounts to use that info in a government or accessory-to-facism capacity, or, to even publicly out anti-MAGA users?
There's got to be a risk that even entirely anonymous accounts that don't reveal the actual human behind them could be connected to their actual owner, right? Especially, for instance, when a user has both a "real me" account and a burner / anonymous account. I have both. Both use different email addresses. But I have to imagine that by virtue of being logged into both on the same device, they're able to establish that a single user is on the app switching between accounts, by which they can cross-reference user data that wouldn't even require IP address recognition.
Reddit must be able to do that as well (I've got a couple Reddit accounts) and occasionally when a post has been removed because of certain subs' stringent rules on what can be posted, their messages tell you that attempting to circumvent a ban by using a different account will result in full termination of access. So of course they have to be able to see the connections between logged-in accounts on the same device. If you were to keep your usage fully separate for "real-me" accounts and burner accounts by using one on a mobile device and another on a computer, it would be harder, but still possible?
Anyhow, it doesn't keep me up at night or anything, but with everything Musk is doing and getting involved in, it doesn't seem far fetched that he could do whatever he wants with X accounts and go scorched earth and say "here are all the people who have ever spoken out against Trump, MAGA, Musk himself, Tesla, etc.
Thoughts?
- Forgot to say this: I think we're seeing glimpses of the real goals in buying Twitter, AND the reasons for such significant foreign investment in it.mg33
- Foreign investment - Saudi sovereign wealth fund is the largest shareholder at 16.9% - might not be connected to MAGA support goals, but it's worrisome.mg33
- Elon and X, I believe, have access to every DM convo between any user. The expectation of privacy or security for DM's should be non-existent.mg33
- And, irony of all ironies, Elon touts X as this bastion of free speech, yet their censorship of content they don't like, and the algorithm(s) priority towardsmg33
- serving up right-leaning content is well known now and obvious if you interact with any right-leaning accounts.mg33
- Honestly, the algorithm at this point seems as basic as it can get. It's incredible how engaging with even two posts outside of my typical consumptionmg33
- completely shifts the focus to posts related to those outlier engagements. I looked at TWO posts about using AI to help buy crypto, and it's like 90% of my feedmg33
- shifted to crypto and investment posts immediately, with political posts diminishing just as fast when viewing the main feed.mg33
- It felt good to close all my X accounts. Sticking to QBN for all my social media needs.nuggler
- I think you have to assume that this does happen, both on X, and on all major platforms, and that really nothing has changed since Elon took over.monNom
- You are the product, and that means that EVERY interaction you have is monitored, aggregated, classified and affinity grouped to the 9th degree.monNom
- An whether it's pre or post Elon, the government seems to have pretty deep tentacles in to these organizations, and does obtain access to people's posts/DMsmonNom
- An no, you are probably not fooling anyone by switching accounts. Even your list of installed fonts can act as a fingerprint.monNom
- He went right like tons of people over fear of trans kids. Full stop. everything else is a facade._niko
- u saw that interview of him about woke...where he was pissed that children were learning in skool that g.washington had slaves...neverscared
- must be coz he is a slavemastern himself as in exploitation of workers...see sweden ..or high risk of accidents in his factoriesneverscared
- https://www.reuters.…neverscared
- or crawling into their homes when sick
https://fortune.com/…neverscared - pretty bonkers...the sucker who acusses states of being the woke stasi thinks its ok that his corporation can stasi itself in their workers home....neverscared
- read my pouty lips:
Ch-Y-N-AArchitectofFate
- Nairn-2
- https://static.wikia…Nairn
- NEVER SURRENDER
TO THE IRSNairn - my fucking lord, a fail on both counts. shit link and it's 'no surrender', isn't it?Nairn
- oh and to boot, this 'photo' may well be a photoshop, so well done me.Nairn
- I'm -1'ing myself here.
Please, jump on board.Nairn - Where's his chin?YakuZoku
- Chin was donated to The Cause™Nairn
- https://i.imgur.com/…utopian
- Lol utopian, I knew it was that pic as I clicked it!YakuZoku
- sted2
He also wants to fix the EU.GTFO
- the lad whose family got rich off the back of Apartheid is bubbling about democracy. i hope I live long enough to see him die from cancer.face_melter
- Musk is the right man in the wrong continent
https://www.ft.com/c…neverscared - or just the right man in an apartheit regime..neverscared
- Ganesh is miserable contrarian cock-polisher and should be ground into dog food.face_melter
- neverscared6
- spot onneverscared
- did he just declare his son dead :(jagara
- utopian1
Elon Musk says too many game studios are owned by giant corporations so his giant corporation is going to start a studio to 'make games great again'/
- Go Elmon!dasohr
- 5 troll, anti-greed, anti-bs friends get together and start making a game for the love of it. They realise they need more hands on deck...microkorg
- ..others arent going to work for free so they register as a small business, make it legit and take on their first employees.microkorg
- They keep growing as a company, the game gets finished. The gaming world loves it. They sell a shit-ton.microkorg
- They then want to work on their next game idea, take on new staff with the income from the last game, get a new office, continue growing...microkorg
- Before they know it they are a massive corporation with bills to pay so everything is about money and bs.microkorg
- And likely any of the 5 original friends who is against money/bs would get booted by the board.microkorg
- how many is too many ?neverscared
- Not just another game studio, you failed to notice, he wants an "AI game studio" whatever that will mean...grafician
- But he fails to understand that to make a AAA game you need budgets in the hundreds of millions so you need Big Gaming industry. Just another dumb tweetgrafician
- but this isn't about games - it's about these chud's weirdo idea that 'vidjagaems are censored and wOkE' now.face_melter
- because the idea of representation in media - be it games or film or tv - makes these fucking spunk-brained mongrels seethe.face_melter
- xAI owns 100,000 H100 GPUs, estimated at purchase to be 30-40k (due to bulk purchase) each using up to 750w and also lets not forget the associated hardwarekalkal
- that they're all connected to (the rest of the systems) - they're paying something along the lines of approx 10 million dollars for their electricity per monthkalkal
- for their $3-4 billion worth of compute.
"massive corporations"kalkal - he is just shittalking to advertise his A.I .. never will produce any game... trumpstyle bs hustle..neverscared
- just gonna drop this video to show how insane it is https://youtu.be/Rm8…Nutter
- AI in gaming is fuckin game changing, we're used to pattern recognition as a strategy, no more of that shit.YakuZoku
- neverscared2
Elon Musk’s X is trying to block the transfer of the platform’s InfoWars accounts to the Onion after filing a legal objection stating that it owns users’ accounts.
- Yup, he's gonna bully everyone with his wealth and new-found power. Such a rapid decline of what was once an intriguing person to pure madness and evil.formed
- true... and that behaviour has its limit and as history teaches us and the blowback will devastating.neverscared
- beneverscared
- looks like he is also bankrupting his ex https://www.business…neverscared
- piss of shit dude we can all agree on that...neverscared
- The Onion should just copy this story and post it. Because it's Onion material as it is...grafician
- complete asshatNutter
- To be fair, nobody who signed up for infowars signed up to be part of the onion. This makes sense.monospaced
- The Onion taking over is hilarious, the fact that he's clock blocking that epic gag shows he's more bitter than funny, and that makes for a pretty lame dudeYakuZoku
- I haven't accepted the new terms and conditions, nobody asked me about musk buying my data.sted
- first amber heard and then grimes made his heart go sour and made him such a bitter man... he can sleep in peter thiels garage if he loses his cash.. which willneverscared
- not happen of course...neverscared
- @monospaced read againkingsteven
- renderedred2
his fall will be epic and brutal.
- neverscared1
Musk’s influence over the federal government is extraordinary, and extraordinarily lucrative.
Mr. Musk’s rocket company, SpaceX, effectively dictates NASA’s rocket launch schedule. The Defense Department relies on him to get most of its satellites to orbit. His companies were promised $3 billion across nearly 100 different contracts last year with 17 federal agencies.
- Why Elon Musk might care so much about Federal governmentneverscared
- Why not nationalize SpaceX? That's the only company that counts. The rest, Tesla, X are trashgrafician
- This is both an own-goal by the federal government scrapping the space shuttle, and a byproduct of musk producing the lowest cost delivery system.monNom
- SpaceX had competitors, and still does. I’m not aware of any that can match cost or capabilities. I mean, what is the alternative to spaceX at this point?monNom
- ULA was reliant on Russian engines. They are getting a replacement from blue origin. SpaceX has a domestically produced engine today. That’s why they win.monNom
- I’ll take, People just realizing that billionaires and gov’t fuck, AlexGnash
- BusterBoy5
What a shame...
- hmm i thought it was already a done deal.ephix
- and so it begins...neverscared
- utopian4
Weirdo Elon Musk begs court to block OpenAI from converting to a for-profit
- neverscared1
Elon Musk's Plans for a City on Mars Will Likely End in Horrifying Mass Death
"No way that you could scale up to a million people on Mars without something catastrophic happening."- the mars project is such crap... they might manage to bring one dude there... for a billions of dollars and then it will go dormant...neverscared
- commercialisation of space is financially insane with current tech ...but hey people also like mcdonalds...neverscared
- Haven't read the article but why would you want to scale to a million people?palimpsest
- That will make a great reality show.ApeRobot
- @pal sounds good for advertising... so a lot of people profit from it.. the inversion is the truth and the billionare tech bro will profit mostly...neverscared
- Now I get it, the one million people is to save capitalism, not humans.palimpsest
- what should one dude to on mars..? take a shit.. and go home again...the 444billion take a shit on mars adventure....neverscared
- people love it..neverscared
- I meant that 100 000 people would be enough for a sustainable colony.palimpsest
- i doubt there will be sustainable colony of 10 people in this century nor in the next.... shit they didnt even manage to have 3 dudes on mars since the sixties.neverscared
- You think we can pull off a sustainable colony in this century. Do you take bets?
I think we will achieve an alien colony before I cash in that bet.palimpsest - even that lady from nasa said on lex friedman its stoopid to build on mars and it makes more sense to build in space as in space station...neverscared
- we can pull off nothing ... maybe some billionaires pull of sth for their kind ...not on mars though... i take bets.. i bet the mars project goes dormant afterneverscared
- they might be able to shoot one dude there... there is probably some colony on the moon soon... the rest not so much...neverscared
- If we're talking about stoopid, I think the idea of building a colony outside of Earth as a *solution* is stupid.palimpsest
- I think it's feasible to achieve in this century, though.
#hooked on phonicspalimpsest - sure as stoopid as mcdonalds food... its hard to tell but tech has its limits...especially with long distances in space... the inversion of scale as inneverscared
- going into the nano and atomic scale for adventure will be the future in the mass market i think instead of heavy bulky space travel... not for rich peopleneverscared
- though..neverscared
- they probably sent a few hundred billionaires somewhere in space...except the next generation gets bored by it...as the current should be already...neverscared
- the manipulation on tiny scale is also way more glorious than some dickcheese stepping his foot on mars...neverscared
- Stable Genius Has Ideasutopian
- Let shit for brains be the first volunteer. Elmo lost in space._niko
- whats the point of living inside buildings all your life knowing the outside would instantly kills you. Like the series SILOHAL9001
- palimpsest-1
# Beyond Latour’s Earth: A Materialist Case for Mars
Elon Musk’s plan to colonize Mars is often criticized as a hubristic fantasy—a continuation of human exceptionalism and a reckless escape from the mess we’ve made on Earth. Thinkers like Bruno Latour might see it as the ultimate rejection of responsibility, a refusal to accept our entanglement with Gaia. But what if this critique itself is rooted in flawed assumptions? What if Musk’s vision, for all its flaws, challenges us to rethink the anthropocentric narratives that underpin not only modernity but also Latour’s *terrestres*?
Latour’s emphasis on humanity’s entanglement with Earth—the idea that we are inherently *earthbound*—reflects an attempt to anchor ethics in ecological interdependence. However, it assumes that survival and ethics are necessarily tied to the Earth’s specific conditions. A materialist, reductionist view complicates this: humans are not bound to Earth in any fundamental way, nor does rejecting anthropocentrism require us to privilege Earth as the center of ethical or existential concern. Instead, we can look at Mars as a case study for a broader, less Earth-centric philosophy of existence.
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## Latour’s *Terrestres*: A Useful but Earthbound Critique
Latour’s *terrestres* offers a compelling response to the ecological crises of modernity. By emphasizing humanity’s entanglement with Gaia—a self-regulating system that includes all living and non-living entities on Earth—he pushes back against the hubris of modernity, which views nature as a resource for human use. For Latour, colonizing Mars represents an extension of this same hubris: the belief that we can escape Earth’s limits and create a new world free from ecological accountability.
But Latour’s critique has limits. His insistence on *terrestres* as inherently tied to Earth overlooks the fact that humans, like all entities, exist within the broader universe, not just the planetary systems of Gaia. To argue that we are "bound" to Earth conflates contingency with necessity: while Earth has shaped us, it does not define us. A materialist view rooted in Object-Oriented Ontology (OOO) offers a different perspective—one that sees humans as entities among many, operating under universal laws rather than the specific constraints of Gaia.
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## Mars and the Rejection of Earth-Centric Thinking
If we reject the anthropocentric view that humans are exceptional, we must also reject the Earth-centric view that humanity’s existence is inherently tied to this planet. From an OOO perspective, both humans and Earth are independent entities with their own realities and agencies. Earth’s biosphere has shaped human evolution, but it does not own us, nor do we owe it a primordial loyalty. Similarly, Mars is not a blank slate awaiting human conquest—it is an independent entity with its own properties and agency.
Mars colonization, then, is not about escaping Earth but about expanding the scope of our interactions within the universe. This expansion challenges the Latourian assumption that responsibility must be tied to dependency. Instead, we can frame responsibility as a recognition of the agency of other entities—Earth, Mars, and the broader cosmos—independent of our survival needs.
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## Ethics Beyond Gaia: A Materialist Approach
Latour’s *terrestres* ties ethics to planetary limits, arguing that humanity must accept its place within the Earth’s systems. But a materialist perspective sees ethics as a choice, not an inevitability. Humans do not need to “belong” to Earth to act responsibly; ethical behavior arises from our capacity to reflect on our actions and their consequences for other entities, not from an inherent entanglement with Gaia.
Mars colonization offers an opportunity to rethink this ethical framework. By interacting with a planet that has no biosphere to sustain us and no evolutionary history to tie us to it, we are forced to confront the limits of our agency. This confrontation doesn’t absolve us of responsibility—it expands it. We are not just stewards of Earth; we are participants in a universe where every action creates new relationships and entanglements, whether on Earth, Mars, or elsewhere.
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## Critiquing Latour: Entanglement Without Necessity
One of Latour’s key assumptions is that recognizing our entanglement with Gaia is essential for fostering environmental responsibility. This conflates two separate ideas: interdependence and responsibility. From a materialist perspective, humans can recognize the Earth’s importance to our current survival without construing that importance as an existential binding. The Earth is a context, not a master.
Mars challenges us to think beyond Earth’s systems while still recognizing the ethical implications of our actions. Colonizing Mars does not mean abandoning Earth or denying its influence on us—it means accepting that neither Earth nor Mars is central to the universe. Both are entities with which we interact, and those interactions carry consequences we must consider.
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## Toward a Post-Earth Ethics
Rather than dismiss Musk’s Mars vision as escapist or hubristic, we can use it as a lens to critique both human exceptionalism and Earth exceptionalism. A post-Earth ethics, informed by OOO and materialist reductionism, might look something like this:
1. **Universal Laws Over Local Dependencies**:
Humans operate within the same physical laws as all other entities. Our ability to leave Earth is not evidence of exceptionalism but of contingency—we evolved under Earth’s conditions but are not bound to them.2. **Responsibility Without Primacy**:
Ethics is not derived from our dependence on Earth or any other entity. Instead, it arises from the recognition that our actions affect other entities, regardless of their relationship to us.3. **Interplanetary Coexistence**:
Colonizing Mars does not have to be about domination or escape but about forging new relationships with an independent entity. This requires humility and a recognition of Mars’s agency, not just its utility.---
## Conclusion: Mars as a Challenge, Not an Escape
Musk’s Mars project forces us to confront uncomfortable questions: What does it mean to leave Earth? Are we replicating the same logic of exploitation that brought us to the brink of ecological collapse, or are we learning to navigate new relationships with non-human entities?
Latour’s *terrestres* offers valuable insights into the dangers of hubris and the importance of acknowledging our impacts. But it falls short in its insistence on Earth as a central framework for ethics and responsibility. A materialist, post-Earth perspective suggests that we can—and must—think beyond Earth without denying our responsibilities to it. Mars colonization, approached with this humility, is not a rejection of environmental responsibility but an opportunity to expand its scope to a truly cosmic scale.
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- when it comes to a materialist case i would deny it more than a spirital case... because its so flippin xpensive... all a matter of timing... iam a big onneverscared
- LOL, it's **not** that type of materialism.palimpsest
- OOO..but u can also make the case that OOO works against it... gaia is also operating on universal laws... thats some total gpt bullshit argumentation ... lolneverscared
- OOO is always about that type of materialismneverscared
- sounds like a lot o mumble jumble since we are already post earth since nasa landed on the moon and build a space station...neverscared
- to some degree at least... well ..neverscared
- coz its not a closed looped station so far..still makes more sense to build a station than on mars...neverscared
