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- yuekit0
The evidence remains clear: SARS-CoV-2 emerged via the wildlife trade
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073…
A good review of the existing evidence and theories advanced by each side. The idea that virologists and other scientists didn't seriously look at this possibility of it coming from a lab is wrong...they did.
But once you go beyond the coincidence of a lab being in the same city (which is a city the size of London or NYC), there just isn't good evidence to support it.
- the author works for https://zalgen.com & https://gvn.orgshapesalad
- similar to other summaries i've read. where they explain how little we know about how viruses 'jump' over huge differences and between specieskingsteven
- debunk a load of daft conspiracies but come to a conclusion that it emerged within the wildlife trade because it's much more likely (and propose a ban)kingsteven
- it's right, but doesn't eliminate the chance of it being anything to do with an (admittedly unlikely) accidental lab release. or propose any changes therekingsteven
- why shouldn't a ban be on all non-livestock in cities? swiss-cheese model n all that, no proof of difference in risk from one instance of exposurekingsteven
- *differences = distanceskingsteven
- You're right that you can never totally disprove or eliminate the chance, it's more a question of likelihood.yuekit
- What I find interesting is how the lab leak side repeatedly uses complex pseudoscientific arguments that make it look like a lab leak is overwhelminglyyuekit
- likely, and this generates the perception for the public. But when in examined in detail, their arguments are almost always BS.yuekit
- This doesn't just apply to fringe conspiracy theorists but the main people promoting the lab theory like DRASTIC, Alina Chan, Richard Ebright who are oftenyuekit
- cited as sources by journalists. There were also a number of fake stories planted by the Trump admin and by overseas Chinese groups as documented here...yuekit
- https://www.wsws.org…yuekit
- So the reality is weirdly the opposite of how it's been portrayed, where scientists are unfairly dismissing this idea but a few brave independent thinkers stoodyuekit
- up to tell you the truth. Like you said that doesn't discredit it entirely but it's a very different narrative from what most people have been led to believe.yuekit
- i think shape illustrates the typical iconoclastic response above. this sort of article has a very defined audience due to the author presentingkingsteven
- his experience with ebola as an argument to strengthen his case (to any critic it only serves as evidence of bias) - to anyone like myself who otherwise agreeskingsteven
- it makes the facts read as an opinion piece (which it is) when what we want is an inverse meta-analysis disproving the bullshitkingsteven
- What makes this topic so difficult is that the arguments hinge on very technical details, for instance in this paper he explains why the furin cleavage siteyuekit
- of SARS-CoV-2 actually suggests it wasn't engineered -- it's an out of frame insertion into the genome that makes no sense for a virologist to include.yuekit
- To virologists these are very strong arguments against lab origin (another one is the finding that there were two different lineages that couldn't have evolvedyuekit
- from each other, so were there two lab leaks, both at an animal market?).yuekit
- yep, i just mean the anecdotal additions by the author only detract from the (clear cut) data. and his conclusion doesn't address the cause of conspiracykingsteven
- (racism, mistrust in international scientific community, mistrust in government, actual recorded lab-leaks, nuanced disputes about crispr)kingsteven
- it would be a good starting point for more targeted articles or essential reading for thanksgiving dinner argument take-downs with a dickhead brother-in-lawkingsteven
- I'm Chinese myself but I wouldn't blame it on racism. If you look at how the lab leak theory started, it was actually promoted by overseas Chinese groups likeyuekit
- the Falun Gong cult and the Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui, who hired Steve Bannon to run online disinfo campaigns. These groups are connected with theyuekit
- Trump administration, so in the beginning it was really an attempt to use the origin of the pandemic to continue the Trump admin's assault against China.yuekit
- sted0
- Hench-7
The inventor of the PCR test himself, Marry Mullis (Nobel prize winner) is on video record multiple times saying that his test cannot be used to diagnosed infectious disease. He's on record saying that if you run it at enough cycles you can basically find anything in anyone.
The inventor of the test has told you, if you're smart enough to research and educate yourself, that it doesn't work for what they've been using it for. The test doesn't work. Yet your all in here saying that you've had covid. It's hilarious how utterly empty headed the general population is.
The UK gov were running it at so and so cycles, to deliberately give false positives, and as soon as they started vaccinated people that dropped the cycle rate by about 50%... To give the illusion that the vaccine was working.
The fact that most of you are still completely under the illusion of this false narrative, easily provable, it's proof that humanity is truly, truly fucked and our time is near.
Flu rates dropped 99% worldwide in 2020 because they rebranded flu as covid. Hospitals were getting commission for every covid death they marked on death certificates. If someone died of a car crash or a heart attack, but tested positive on the tests that don't work, they put the cause of death as covid. You can check all of this yourself if you have the inclination to educate yourself, it's all out there in public record.
The elite have been talking about the over population problem for decades and this is how they are sorting that problem out. Invent a pretend deadly virus which is in truth just another variant of the common cold, plaster it all over the news and from the government incessantly, falsify the death record to create the fear, and then market the highly profitable vaccine to the people that can't think for themselves. As much as I hate to say it, it's the perfect plan to eradicate the world of the idiots. The vaccine, which isn't a vaccine, is designed to destroy your immune system so that over the next few years you'll die of whatever is the weakest link in your chain and it won't be easily traceable to the vaccine.
Not only that but if you took the mRNA you're no longer legally considered a human being so if you survive you can't take them to court because you no longer have human rights. You cannot legally patent and own, say, a tomato... because it is created by nature, or God, whichever way you're inclined. But if you genetically modify said tomato you can then claim it as your own creation and you can legally patent and own the rights to it.
That's what they've just done to a large portion of humanity. They have genetically modified you with the mRNA technology so that you are no longer legally considered a human being and can be legally patented and owned and cannot claim human rights in the court of law.
This is what's just happened and not only are most of you bewilderingly ignorant to it, you're still on here ridiculing those of us that know what's just happened.
You're a disgrace. Fortunately for the rest of us you don't have more than a few years on this earth.
Use your time wisely.
- His name is Karry Mullis, not Marry :)
Thank you auto correct.Hench - I'd have more compassion for you all if you hadn't spent the last few years hating and slandering and ridiculing those of us smart enough to educate ourselves.Hench
- I lost my girlfriend and most of my friends simply by trying to warn them not to commit euthanasia, so my patience and compassion has been limited. Forgive me.Hench
- Alex Jones on QBN. Nice.tank02
- Hitler liked coffee so I guess you're Hitler?Hench
- Clown logic knows no bounds.Hench
- Tank would you like to correct me on anything that I've said that isn't true? You're more than welcome to, rather than ridiculing... I know that's your defaultHench
- defense...Hench
- Start with the PCR test. Then go on to correct me on whether a tomato is still legally considered a tomato once it's been genetically modified...Hench
- ... and we can go from there...Hench
- Sorry to hear this stuff has destroyed your life.PhanLo
- That's very kind but ultimately it didn't destroy my life at all, it eradicated the chuff.Hench
- Much like what the ruling class have just done...Hench
- This is the boomerest thing i’ve ever readscarabin
- With all your knowledge of this secret society murder rampage, who would you kill if you could? To make a differencePhanLo
- Even the briefest of searches reveals your whole patenting people and “not legally human” claims to be geriatric facebook cloud-yellingscarabin
- Ohh, this is a schtick. You’re doing a schtick and i fell for it. Lol. Carry on.scarabin
- This is beautiful.palimpsest
- First of all is cute that you people still take the first thing you find on Google as confirmation bias, while we're living in an information warHench
- ... and Google are the thought police. Secondly, I'm still waiting for one single proof that anything I've said is false.Hench
- so you infiltrated QBN after Mullis quote started to be misinterpreted? interesting.oey_oey
- Scarabin what guff have you read? It's an indisputable fact that if you genetically modify something you can legally own the rights to itHench
- No yeah mate you’ve got it all correct.
Wink wink
https://media.tenor.…scarabin - Still waiting for facts and evidence rather than ridicule...Hench
- Thanks for the heads up.thumb_screws
- Found the super-spreader.Nairn
- Facts and evidence please, Nairn. Ridicule is the response of clueless fools...Hench
- I didn't wear a mask once, social distance, still shook the hands of my homeless friends, who by the way never got sick, and I haven't been sick in yearsHench
- When was the last time you were sick? And please don't forget my request for facts and evidence rather than ridicule...Hench
- Go back and read your schpiel and count your ridicule.Nairn
- Still waiting for facts and evidence. Should be easy if I'm so wrong, no?Hench
- You're response is literally 'NO YOU!' and you genuinely believe you're on the right side?Hench
- The evidence is right there but you're the type that chooses to ignore it. Easily provable in the excess deaths metric, and the flu has never..garbage
- Excess deaths of which year? Suicide was up 500% during the lockdown. Millions of people denied treatment due to covid restrictions...Hench
- ..overwhelmed hospitals to the point where workers were quitting from overstress. You're getting insults because you're ignoring easily provable facts.garbage
- I had a friend who had a breast cancer scare. She wasn't allowed to go to hospital because of covid bullshit ...Hench
- How many millions of people worldwide were too scared to go to hospital for their ailments because they thought covid was writhe?Hench
- It's an old song for your type. lol at "I lost my girlfriend and most of my friends" and me thinking it was due to COVID.garbage
- You're augment has no weight...Hench
- Your :)Hench
- In a way, it was. Persistent and determined ignorance tends to be a turnoff.garbage
- Garbage you're doing the same as every other brainwashed cunt, trying to ridicule and insult me rather than providing evidence that I'm wrong...Hench
- What's the plan? Genocide everyone and repopulate the world with the vast unvaccinated Central African populace?Jrdntnnr
- Delirium tremenspablo28
- I liked it better when boomer conspiracies were about MiBs, UFO's and the JFK assassination.inteliboy
- Of course you did, because they didn't mean that you're potentially going to die soon because of your idiocyHench
- Literally just gave you the simplest metric to understand that COVID is not "rebranded flu" and you somehow read through it.garbage
- I'll give you this: You're immune to reality. I bet you're still wondering why your girlfriend and friends left you.garbage
- https://pbs.twimg.co…drgs
- the person call everyone else idiots, is usually the idiot.inteliboy
- ^^ THIShydro74
- So Marry Mullis died before COVID was even a thing. His comments are decades old, and the context was in regard to HIV... just saying.ETM
- Hench is such a special boy. A handsome boy. Who’s our little handsome, smart, special boy? Who worked up qbn with weak trolling? It’s hench, hench didscarabin
- *Troll biscuit @ hench*scarabin
- Let’s try and get through our bullshit holiday in the normal bullshit manner- by pretending to put up with each otherscarabin
- lol more of this please - a far better read than, what, nairn's daily Circus of Trauma and Dread or drgs' glass-brained version of The Turner Diaries.face_melter
- Hench, you retarded cunt fuck. I hope you're sterilecrazyprick
- oh here it it
*popcorns.gif*pango - ^^ Note of the year.Continuity
- Ok.
But why would the Gvt./Elite kill the "sheeple" (me) and let the incendiary "conspiracists"/"dis... alive? That makes no sense for them.Longcopylover - They would need the sheeple to keep them the elite.Longcopylover
- @Longcopylover stop that. You stop that this instant. You're making entirely too much sense.Continuity
- (I normally ignore posts like this, because it's just time consuming to argue online. But I wanted to show you some respect for all your research. Good luck. )Longcopylover
- Maybe we could discuss this between ourselves in the Conspiracy thread. I would like reasonable answers though...palimpsest
- ...because I have a lot of questions on my current status as a non-human.palimpsest
- HITULFcrazyprick
- That was a long read to get to here. ThanksIanbolton
- Kary (not Marry) Mullins died in 2019—before COVID—but explained how PCR tests are qualitative not quantitative, meaning they detect a virus but not how much.ptrdo
- Next.ptrdo
- Flu disappeared because it's not very infectious (R₀≈1.5), so protocols that slowed COVID (R₀≈9.5) didn't give flu a chance. Same with colds and RSV (R₀≈3).ptrdo
- He's on video saying that you can find HIV in anyone if you run enough cycles. Same concept for covid. How is this stuff so difficult for you simpletons?Hench
- if you live long enough the mortality rate is 100%. Why are you still alive?
funny logicpango - Honestly it's like talking to zombies. Hopefully you're all dead within a few years and the world will be a better placeHench
- Not one single piece of evidence provided by you zombies. Just... BUT CNN SAIDHench
- His name is Karry Mullis, not Marry :)
- palimpsest-1
Re: https://www.qbn.com/reply/407762…
Since I'm legally no longer human will I go to jail if I kill somebody or will they throw me in the pound?- More ridicule rather than facts from the tainted bloodsHench
- Is that your legal opinion?palimpsest
- Why don't you try to prove what I've said wrong rather than ridicule? You people are all the sameHench
- The fact is your psyche is too terrified of the possibility of be being right, so rather than go off and research and try to prove me wrong, you just laugh it oHench
- If I'm no longer human I'mma make the most out of it.palimpsest
- Off. It's a defense mechanism and I get it.Hench
- Prove me wrong or prove to everyone reading that you're a foolHench
- Dogs get euthanised for killing people, by the way...Hench
- I'm not trying to prove you wrong, on the contrary I'm taking your claims as fact and asking for your legal opinion.
So euthanasia it is then.palimpsest - Ridicule is the response of foolsHench
- Thank you for clearing that up, I guess?Hench
- Well said.palimpsest
- I truly, genuinely, earnestly wish I could say the same.Hench
- https://www.reuters.…imbecile
- That's a 404 for me. But you're still quoting thought police... You're embarrassing yourself nowHench
- Next you'll be quoting snopesHench
- imbecile0
It's Kary Mullis, not Karry nor Marry
Not only is he proud of his invention, he defended it in a case against DuPont in 1991. One can only presume if the Henchman was correct above, Kary would have rescinded his Nobel Prize that he won for his work on PCR while working for Cetus.
We also have Kary to thank for his work on protecting humans from anthrax.
Additionally, Paul Rabinow wrote a book on the history of the PCR method in 1996, in which he discusses whether Mullis "invented" PCR or merely came up with the concept of it.
As much as Hench would like to lie about things as he does, he overlooked the fact that later patents were unenforceable for their similarity to works already existing as early as 1976 and 1980.
Give Kary all the credit for your lie, Hench. Other people did the work, too. Oh, and it works.
flol
- btw, go fuck yourself, Henchimbecile
- So... The only fact I'm seeing here is that I spelt Kary wrong.... Correct?Hench
- It's a stupid American name anyway so I'm not too sad about my mistake.. How about pick me up on one of the issues that count?Hench
- you are very sad and very incorrect. you knock reuters, but copy pasted drivel from somewhere elseimbecile
- Ok first of all, I've quoted nothing but my own words... Secondly... I'm still waiting for facts rather than feelings...Hench
- Why am I incorrect? If you can prove me wrong then I'll rethink my beliefs... That's what a smart person does ...Hench
- You're desperate for me to be wrong because if I'm not the consequences of your realisation are too painful to process. I get it, and I'm truly sorry...Hench
- Still waitingHench
- imbecile0
there's no video at all, but only a misquote that was said by someone else?
christ on a cruch, boy... grow up
"the quote is actually from an article written by John Lauritsen in December 1996 about HIV and AIDS, not COVID-19"
- *crutchimbecile
- You've just provided a Reuters link which is literally part of the right police. I'll send you the video of Mullis himself saying it when I get homeHench
- Thought police* the people that own Reuters are the ones that want fools like you dead. They call you useless eaters.Hench
- share the video or shut upimbecile
- I already told you, you blind fool, I'll share it when I'm home. In the meanwhile you can start sharing some facts or shut the fuck up yourself :)Hench
- If I'm such an idiot you should be able to easily prove me wrong, no?Hench
- So far all you've got is 'fucking lol you spelt his name slightly wrong'Hench
- “The verdict of this fact check has been changed from false to misleading, to reflect that the quote examined may have been a fair reflection of Mullis’s views”Gnash
- Hey Gnash. Do you have any facts or evidence to provide?Hench
- I was just pointing out to imbecile that rueters changed their fact-check from “false”Gnash
- These fact checkers are demonstrably part of the thought police. They'll literally say anything, and unfortunately the majority just blindly believeHench
- @imbecile
https://rumble.com/v…Hench - The fact that that I couldn't find that video on YouTube speaks volumes... There are multiple others of him saying similar thingsHench
- This guy died suspiciously in late 2019... Just before the 'pandemic'. Convenient that, considering he was number 1 man on earth that could expose the fraudHench
- Hench-1
The difference between most of you and I, is that I truly wish I was wrong, where as you all desperately wish that you're right.
- What good has come to you, knowing that there's a secret society that will kill everyone? Or is it just knowing that's the reward?PhanLo
- That's totally and utterly irrelevant. If you must know, no good has come from it at all other than the knowledge of who is a free thinker and who is brainwasheHench
- at the end of the day the detergent brand doesn't matter.uan
- I'm big on DazHench
- Hench-3
Suffice to me becoming a little self indulgent. I am truly sorry for what's happened. There are many people I know that bought into this that are truly good people. It's terrifyingly sad, ultimately.
I'm a man who has always had deep compassion for people, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart when I say that if any single one of you were being attacked on the street, I would die defending you. Genuinely. My life and my ego is no longer some important thing to me. Being truthful and honest and righteous is the only thing that matters.
I'm not here to say look at me I'm right and you're wrong. I'm here to tell you what's going on based on facts and evidence. So far I've literally had not a single worthwhile response other than ridicule.
Is there not some shred of inkling in your spirit that is ringing alarm bells over what's happened over the past few years? We have a government that sprays literal poison on our food, puts literal neuro toxins in our drinking water, that spends literal billions on bombing innocent people and somehow you think that they care so much about your health that they'll spend billions on testing perfectly healthy people and the same again on providing you with a vaccine to keep you healthy?
Do you genuinely believe that?
You can ridicule me and attack me all you want. I'm used to it by now. It has no bearing on my self worth or my knowledge. I have a lot of compassion for you but at the same time when you're readily happy to ridicule and insult someone who, when you break it down, is ultimately putting themselves on the line to divulge information that could possibly help people, then surely you must stop and think about what kind of a man, or woman you are.
- do you own a gun?uan
- Have you eaten a sausage roll lately?Hench
- When the small team of binmen went on strike in my city in the summer, it took about 3 days before there was rubbish everywhere.PhanLo
- Imagine randomly getting rid of a giant knowledgebase of skills via a mass culling of human beings?
I don't mean academic skills, which would also go, but...PhanLo - ...practical skills, that really rich people never have to know, like plumbing. You reckon the lizard folk fix their own sinks?
Clean their own bogs?PhanLo - I get what you're saying, of course there are horrible people who conspire every day to make peoples lives miserable for their own gain. The Sacklers for...PhanLo
- ...example.PhanLo
- So your whole stance is that it can't be true because you can't believe it? Fuck me you people are fucking uselessHench
- No offence but that is an idiotic stance. No doubt. Give me facts and evidence.... For fuck sake....Hench
- IT CAN'T BE TRUE BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT COULD BE TRUE, is not a valid argument....Hench
- Why would they do it? For what gain?PhanLo
- Because we've gone from 1 billion to nearly 8 billion in a HUNDRED years. It's unsustainable.Hench
- I think that's the plot for UtopiaPhanLo
- Yes let's try to misdirect because it's far less painful than acknowledging the truthHench
- My friend who also believes what you do says that the NWO put things like that out there as a cruel joke to say, 'we're going to do this, but you think it's...PhanLo
- ...fiction'. She also thinks 5G is a weapons system.PhanLo
- 5G was developed by the military as a weapons system. How are you people so desperately ignorant?Hench
- You need to shut up and listen to your friend. Your life evidently depends on it.Hench
- If you're saying is true, I'm already dead.PhanLo
- Sorry if that was a little defensive. Forgive me.Hench
- She also thinks the earth is walled in by a giant circle of ice, because it's flat. She's became quite religious and like yourself lost some friends and familyPhanLo
- It's easy to take a defensive stance here, but reading back your comments it seems like you may genuinely be discussing ideas so I'm sorry for attackingHench
- We're all already dead by that logic :)Hench
- I could die long before you, crossing the street tomorrow morning maybe. Death is coming for all of us, it's how we live the life we're given that's what countsHench
- Truly you should give your friend the time of day. She's smart.Hench
- And I'm sure she appreciates you for not being one of the small minded fools for disowning her simply for having different opinions. You sound smart too.Hench
- Hench-7
Here's the inventor of the PCR test telling you that you can find anything in anyone depending on how you run it.
This man died suspiciously at the end of 2019, just before the 'pandemic'. Convenient that, considering he was the man that could prove this whole hoax for what it is.
- it can be "MISUSED" is all he saysimbecile
- He said that you can find anything in anyone depending on how you use it. Which part of that are you not understanding?Hench
- Posted date is 2021, but he died in 2019. Video is like from 1997. May not be current or relevant, and I believe he was discussing HIV.ETM
- He's discussing the PCR test, which is what we're discussing. This place is full of empty headed half witted morons incapable of understanding basic conceptsHench
- imbecile1
Hench,
let's take a step back from your polarizing generalizations and ability to ignore information so blatantly to try a new approach...
many people enjoy reading multiple articles, some dig through papers, some look between the lines of conspiracy theorists and try to glean a personal truth that they themselves can feel comfortable believing.
for example; if everyone says something is blue, i don't need to see it for myself, I have seen blue and can believe people. i can believe it's blue.
Let's compare that with your approach, all filler, no fact. Paragraphs of opinion unsupported by any documentation.
What are you providing, other than looking down your nose, calling everyone wrong with your insults, and your opinion?
You want people to believe you and I'll even feign your behavior as altruistic, so you're just upset you can't help your fellow man.
Why don't you take the time to learn to communicate more respectfully? If you truly believe what is in your head is fact, you should have numerous sources to cite.
I've seen the spiro video that you believe Kary admits anything. he does not. He is upset that no one can show him how they know that HIV leads to AIDS. they couldn't, that upset him.
Another gentleman goes on to say he said, she said conjecture and you along with spiro and the 12 comments on that video took it all as fact.
My question is this: If you access whatever information you think is reliable, why don't you share it? Why are you unshared sources somehow better than our shared sources?
Attacking people and calling them stupid won't educate anyone. It only makes it look like you don't know what you're talking about. Just like when you misquote and ignore context.
- You've said a whole lot of nothing there, Skippy. You asked me to provide the video of Mullis saying you can find anything with PCR. I've done that ...Hench
- Now it's your turn to prove me wrong...Hench
- Your clown logic knows no bounds.imbecile
- Complains about personal insults, and then drops a nuke like "Skippy".garbage
- And to make it REAL SIMPLE SKIPPY. The doctor you're quoting died before the pandemic, and the quote is about a decade old.garbage
- https://www.reuters.…garbage
- There's a link Hench. I presume you're also immune to humble pie?garbage
- The doctor is the one who invented the PCR, telling you that you can find anything in anyone using PCR. You people can't understand the most basic of conceptsHench
- How about listen to the words of the inventor rather than quoting me a thought police link. Reuters is owned by the same groups that just euthanised you.Hench
- imbecile2
"So your whole stance is that it can't be true because you can't believe it? Fuck me you people are fucking useless"
—Hench
I am absolutely in love with your hypocritical lack of self-awareness. The notion quoted above is literally your stance.
- Thats great and all but I'm really not interested in your feelings, do you by chance have any facts to add to this conversation?Hench
- perhaps it might help if you provided some proper facts, rather than simply a torrent of your opinion and one badly edited videohans_glib
- https://www.reuters.…garbage
- For posterity.garbage
- robotinc0
Hench, a suggestion for the future: share some links. My biggest bone to pick with others on this thread is long cite-less monologs. Sharing your sources goes a long way towards establishing credibility (or not if the source is say Alex Jones).
- uan0
Watched some of it...googled those guys...their background is religious fundamentalism...based on the social context they formed in, I don't think they know the truth.
- oey_oey2
In my opinion the coronavirus, real or not, and the discussions around it proved to be unhealthy both physically and psychologically.
I don't have any sources but prove me wrong.
- Guess what number I'm thinking aboutCovid69
- https://www.youtube.…kaiyohtee
- Krassy1
9 in 10 covid deaths were in people 65 or older...
- "Today, nearly 9 in 10 covid deaths are in people 65 or older — the highest rate ever, according to a Washington Post analysis of CDC data."grafician
- Test your kids every week though!monospaced
- The young need to pay for the elderly.Chimp
- Same as flu. Yet you stupid scum would rather people destroy their family businesses and give market share over to Amazon to 'flatten the curve'Hench
- Hench-3
Seeing as the manufacturer of the covid vaccines won't even tell you what's in them, let's look at other vaccines... Shall we? If they're admitting that this stuff is in the other vaccines, and they are actively hiding from you what's in the covid vaccines, then you can make your own conclusions and the abominations that are in the covid vaccines.
As a side note, anyone who will inject a substance straight into their bloodstream from a pharmaceutical company that a) profits from you being sick and b) literally will not tell you what's in it, has got to be either the biggest moron on earth or brainwashed to the point of no self awareness or critical thinking.
Back to vaccine ingredients...
Here are just SOME vaccine ingredients.
These are being INJECTED into you and your kids;
◾Formaldehyde/Formalin – Highly toxic systematic poison and carcinogen.
◾Betapropiolactone – Toxic chemical and carcinogen. May cause death/permanent injury after very short exposure to small quantities. Corrosive chemical.
◾Hexadecyltrimethylammonium bromide – May cause damage to the liver, cardiovascular system, and central nervous system. May cause reproductive effects and birth defects.
◾Aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, and aluminum salts – Neurotoxin. Carries risk for long-term brain inflammation/swelling, neurological disorders, autoimmune disease, Alzheimer’s, dementia, and autism. It penetrates the brain where it persists indefinitely.
◾Thimerosal (mercury) – Neurotoxin. Induces cellular damage, reduces oxidation-reduction activity, cellular degeneration, and cell death. Linked to neurological disorders, Alzheimer’s, dementia, and autism.
◾Polysorbate 80 & 20 – Trespasses the Blood-Brain Barrier and carries with it aluminum, thimerosal, and viruses; allowing it to enter the brain.
◾Glutaraldehyde – Toxic chemical used as a disinfectant for heat-sensitive medical equipment.
◾Fetal Bovine Serum – Harvested from bovine (cow) fetuses taken from pregnant cows before slaughter.
◾Human Diploid Fibroblast Cells – aborted fetal cells. Foreign DNA has the ability to interact with our own.
◾African Green Monkey Kidney Cells – Can carry the SV-40 cancer-causing virus that has already tainted about 30 million Americans.
◾Acetone – Can cause kidney, liver, and nerve damage.
◾E.Coli – Yes, you read that right.
◾DNA from porcine (pig) Circovirus type-1
◾Human embryonic lung cell cultures (from aborted fetuses)
Please do go ahead and fact check the ingredients here:
Https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pub…
Now, Pfizer, the company that has created one of the covid vaccines, in case you're that ignorant, has hidden the ingredients from you and have also fought in the court of law to hide the data from their trials for 75 years. If that alone isn't alarm enough for you to question any of this then you're too far gone to have a conversation with. Most of you here seem to be at that stage already.
- Fluoride fucked people's brains, that was the first phase. They're too far gone to reason with.palimpsest
- no vaccine has caused autism, not sure if you're aware of thatmonospaced
- @palimp, if it wasn't the fluoride that got them, the chemtrails most certainly did.
That'll show them.Continuity - Actually it looks like they have released the ingredients since I took a hiatus from all of this. Great, that you means you can check against this list what...Hench
- That's why you can't argue with these folk. They only believe info fed by the govt, anything outside of it is just labeled conspiracy. They won't look at facts.palimpsest
- ...poisons you now have in your system. Plus mRNA is experimental immune system restructuring gene modification. Basically, you're fucked.Hench
- It shows that you're willing to to look at facts, brother.palimpsest
- At least there's one person on this forum with an inkling of independent thought and critical analysis.Hench
- Everyone else ridicules and shouts conspiracy theorist just like the TV taught them to. Yet they can't provide a single solid counter argument. Funny thatHench
- just like you can't provide solid evidence that this vaccine is poison or harmful or that it is doing anything genetically damaging, or harms the immune system.monospaced
- you really outed yourself saying mRNA is experimental ... restructuring gene modification, since even a simple search proves that wrongmonospaced
- I had friends going into the development and experiments with mRNA vaccinations going back like 20 years.monospaced
- so, when you say use facts and research, I can actually talk to someone who has and ignore you, who has absolutely no facts or research to work withmonospaced
- you have google searches and elaborate conspiracy theories on YouTube, not sciencemonospaced
- +1 from me.
Also...a lot of those components are used in deodorants...except the dead babies of course...just a thought.uan - A simple search on the thought police website confirms your brainwashing? LOLHench
- Yea I'm not going to do any research for myself I'm just going to type it in to the thought police and the first link that comes up in going to trustHench
- You deserve to die.Hench
- Can any of you list one healthy ingredient in vaccines? I'll wait...Hench
- dude, it's not food supplement, it's a training mechanism for the immune system.
...but to give you an answer: proteins.uan
- Hench-11
It's clear that the majority here are too far gone and not interested in facts or evidence, but for any that are... Here's a detailed look at the blood of the vaccinated...
https://www.theepochtimes.com/pe…
The problem is that the brainwashed fools that can't think for themselves anymore will type into Google, find the first thought police link (Reuters usually) that backs up their warped opinion - the opinion given to them by the very people trying to poison them - and then go back to their lives self assured that injecting themselves with poison is perfectly ok because the TV and Reuters said so. It truly is beyond belief. It's difficult to say but you can't really blame the elite for wanting to get rid of them.
We've gone from 1 billion to 8 billion people on this earth in 100 years, and these idiots can't fathom the possibility that the ruling elite would want to do something about that unsustainable growth.
- lol, epoch times, wow, really far down the dumbfuck wormhole now I seemonospaced
- lol @ "ruling elite," only people who have no concept of reality even use such a fucking ignorant termmonospaced
- lemme guess, the Jews are controlling everything? please let us knowmonospaced
- also, aren't you more worried about 5G?monospaced
- I really like the word Epoch.shapesalad
- At least palimpsest has your back...dmay
- With you always.
Like Jesus.palimpsest - clearly he was right about 5g as it's fried his brainhans_glib
- "Majority here are too far gone.. not interested in facts..." here's a link to the Epoch times!mathinc
- ^LOLpango
- are you into falun gong as well? the other person i know who's into falun gong, also a vaccine denier as well.pango
- anyway. welcome back. qbn was getting too quiet for a bit.pango
- upvote cuz this is amazingpango
- I'll upvote this! welcome back!uan
- The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement.utopian
- LOLutopian
- Falun Gong...God Bless the Chinese!utopian
- flol Epoch Times. It's amazing that you don't realize linking them sets any argument you make to full-Hindenburg.garbage
- Might as well cite Infowars or Mad Magazine.garbage
- speaking of brainwashing. Falun gongs a cult. You know brain washing and stuffs.
common sign that you're in a cult is that your friends and peers become distantpango - maybe it's something worth looking into.pango
- You can't look at the evidence outside of the lies you've been fed.palimpsest
- I can't look at the "evidence" because it's email walled. I'm not getting on their list.mathinc
- who hasn't got faith in government, doctors and scientists? best do as we're told, you know it makes senseGardener
- this world supports 20billion peoplefeel
- s'ok we'll all be dead by thenGardener
- Data point: my vaxxed friend has just had her 2nd miscarriage. Heartbreaking.zardoz
- Could be the "being pregnant" was what lead to the miscarriage or maybe it was the sex that lead to the pregnancy that caused it; wait does she drink water...?tbgoodwillie
- Has there been a big increase in miscarriages?Chimp
- I trust pretty much anyone on a subject if they have a masters degree. But I applaud your avant garde path to enlightenment via Youtube and Epoch Times.mathinc
- In December 2019, the English Wikipedia deprecated the English and Chinese online versions of The Epoch Times as an "unreliable source" to use as a reference inwhatthefunk
- Wikipedia, with editors calling it "an advocacy group for the Falun Gong, and... a biased or opinionated source that frequently publishes conspiracy theories."whatthefunk
- Wikipedia --without irony-- claimed the Epoch Times was an unreliable source.monNom
- Hench you retarded cunt fuck. Know your place, trashcrazyprick
- And who the fuck upvotes that faggy bitch?crazyprick
- brainwashed fools poison idiots the ruling elite unsustainable growth (Reuters)sted
- One good/bad thing of the internet is: You will find a source to whatever opinion you have. Yours is the Epoch Times... but you mock Reuter's?Longcopylover
- Thank fuck you dumb cunts are going to be dead within a few years. Imagine being so thick that you only trust CNN and the like. You deserve to die.Hench
- Mono rather than just blindly criticising the source like some brain dead zombie, feel free to provide data to counteract the findings of the blood samples....Hench
- wanna bet on that? 2 or 3 year? let's say 3 year.
lolpango - i have got 5 shots in me. how long do you think i've got left :Ppango
- I just love that you quote a rag that you apparently don't know is run by an actual cult, and also assume everyone left of you worships CNN. We don't.garbage
- Apparently they don't teach facts and critical thinking in your Projection 101 class. But on a serious note: You need help.garbage
- Feel free to show me healthy blood of the vaccinated under a microscope.Hench
- be honest... would you know what healthy blood looks like under a microscope?pango
- @hench Not only is that a hilariously stupid request, but you've dodged replies whenever actual evidence is set in front of you.garbage
- As stated elsewhere, you're clearly immunized to scientific fact, and apparently addicted to being proven wrong.garbage
- #missme with any replies, I'm done here.garbage
- I've shown you peer reviewed studies of the terrible state of the blood of the vaccinated. You've done nothing but ridicule and criticise the sourceHench
- Show me the blood samples you have to back up your belief system? How is that an unreasonable request in your thick skull?Hench
- what are we looking at here?
1. https://i.imgur.com/…
2. https://i.imgur.com/…
3. https://i.imgur.com/…pango - https://www.thelance…garbage
- Oh shit, my bad Hench. That link includes actual science, empirical data, methodology, citations to other studies, and a no-funding disclaimer.garbage
- sorry garbage. your link is garbage if it's not from Epoch Timespango
- Lol my mistake. In all seriousness, I honestly think Hench doesn't know the "FACTS" he's posting comes from a guy who believes..garbage
- ..actual aliens are running interracial breeding programs on earth to destroy humanity, and also claims he can walk through walls.garbage
- Um what? Now you've taken a whole new stance on idiocy? Can you point to where I've said I believe in aliens or I can walk through walls? That's hilariousHench
- you did say you believe 5G and covid is connected. which is pretty hilarious as wellpango
- @Hench The shitrag that you keep linking when you're providing "evidence" is the Epoch Times.garbage
- It's literally a propaganda arm of the Falun Gong cult. Their leader believes in the alien conspiracy I mentioned, and claims he can walk through walls.garbage
- So um.. yeah maybe you're not cut out to do your own research, because that's pretty common knowledge.garbage
- Its akin to citing Weekly World News as a source, and end your argument with "because Batboy said so."garbage
