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- neverscared0
Military police opened fire on the nurses, storming their tent.
- the cops are more rioting then the protesters it feels.neverscared
- I’ve seen some pretty nasty videos of rioters against shop owners and people just caught in the violence ... not as many but enough to be concerned how FUBARBluejam
- they'll get more angry for being exposed and they will throw the low ranks under the bus.uan
- there ´s no outweighing, the mob has become violent the institions and government failed to take care of it´s citizien.neverscared
- institutionsneverscared
- MondoMorphic2
https://twitter.com/MarkDavis/st…
From here in Dallas. This is what sucks. The "opportunistic criminals" are undermining the protesters' very legitimate cause.
- ********0
The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.
- ********-6
- utopian1
'No Blame?' ABC News finds 54 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.
President Donald Trump has repeatedly distanced himself from acts of violence in communities across America, dismissing critics who point to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration or comfort for anyone acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.
"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last year, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.
But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 54 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault.
After a Latino gas station attendant in Gainesville, Florida, was suddenly punched in the head by a white man, the victim could be heard on surveillance camera recounting the attacker’s own words: “He said, ‘This is for Trump.'" Charges were filed but the victim stopped pursuing them.
When police questioned a Washington state man about his threats to kill a local Syrian-born man, the suspect told police he wanted the victim to "get out of my country," adding, "That’s why I like Trump."
Reviewing police reports and court records, ABC News found that in at least 12 cases perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically assaulting innocent victims. In another 18 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.
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When three Kansas men were on trial for plotting to bomb a largely-Muslim apartment complex in Garden City, Kansas, one of their lawyers told the jury that the men "were concerned about what now-President Trump had to say about the concept of Islamic terrorism." Another lawyer insisted Trump had become "the voice of a lost and ignored white, working-class set of voters," and Trump's rhetoric meant someone "who would often be at a 7 during a normal day, might ‘go to 11.'"
Thirteen cases identified by ABC News involved violent or threatening acts perpetrated in defiance of Trump, with many of them targeting Trump's allies in Congress. But the vast majority of the cases – 41 of the 54 – reflect someone echoing presidential rhetoric, not protesting it.
ABC News could not find a single criminal case filed in federal or state court where an act of violence or threat was made in the name of President Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.
The 54 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt. These links are not speculative – they are documented in official records. And in the majority of cases identified by ABC News, it was perpetrators themselves who invoked the president in connection with their case, not anyone else.
PHOTO: Shoppers exit after a mass shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, Aug. 3, 2019. (Reuters)
PHOTO: Shoppers exit after a mass shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, Aug. 3, 2019. (Reuters)
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The perpetrators and suspects identified in the 54 cases are mostly white men – as young as teenagers and as old as 75 – while the victims largely represent an array of minority groups – African-Americans, Latinos, Muslims and gay men.Federal law enforcement authorities have privately told ABC News they worry that – although Trump has offered public denunciations of violence – his statements have been inconsistent and Trump's style could inspire violence-prone individuals to take action against minorities or others they perceive to be against the president's agenda.
"Any public figure could have the effect of inspiring people," FBI Director Chris Wray told a Senate panel last year. "But remember that the people who commit hate fueled violence are not logical, rational people."
While asserting that "fake" media coverage is exacerbating divisions in the country, Trump has noted that "a fan" of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders opened fire on Republican lawmakers playing baseball in a Washington suburb two years ago. "Nobody puts ... 'Bernie Sanders' in the headline with the maniac," Trump said last year.
- utopian3
- I think that was here in Dallas. The pavers were part of various road/sidewalk reconstruction projects downtown. Very poor timing.MondoMorphic
- utopian0
As of 2:40pm EST in Philly, the protests, violence and looting is no longer contained to just the center city area is it was yesterday. People are now looting and rioting across the entire city. There are police and ambulance sirens blaring non stop. The national guard was just called in and they are beginning to shut down all highways, bridges and public transportation. A citywide stage of emergency was just declared.
- NBQ002
Hilarious, so Alex Jones been saying Obama would put America under martial law so many times while it’s actually his hero Donnie who is deploying the military against citizens.
On another note, this chaos in the US is insane.
I also think it’s fucking dumb there’s looters destroying shops and stealing stuff. What does that have to do with Floyd’s death.
- PonyBoy0
how to protest powerfully w/out placing a hand on your neighbor or community...
- this is whats called protest.sted
- This looks like a swell day at the park to catch a tan and sip on a smoothie.utopian
- This is what one calls a demonstration, not a protest.utopian
- How convenient and easy to ignore it would be that people would protest without disturbing or affecting you in any way, wouldn't it?sr_rosa
- same thing, 'topes
https://en.wikipedia…PonyBoy - nobody is affecting me person in one way at all, sr_rosa. However the poor in the hoods being destroyed are being fucked over...PonyBoy
- *personallyPonyBoy
- @utopian same thing just with different numbers? :)sted
- If you want more destruction, guyz— torch your own homes and cars—take pictures and post w/your phone (your last possession) and show everyone how woke you are!turk_182
- I'm PonyBoy btw... can't seem to login using PB on my phone :/turk_182
- Maybe you can do it, I do not own any home or car.sr_rosa
- Regardless... can’t you empathize w/ those suffering the destruction that destroys their already decaying neighborhood?turk_182
- Of course. Nothing I commented suggests otherwise. Unlike you, I didn't say what people protesting should or shouldn't do. Just remarked that in order to be...sr_rosa
- Which one will politicians take notice of?Chimp
- ...noticeable, a protest has to be inconvenient. Pretending that protests that are not annoying, inconvenient, or disruptive are better shows a lack of empathy.sr_rosa
- I didn't say what people should / shouldn't do, sr_rosa. I pointed out you can protest w/out hurting your neighbor / hood. Sad that seems to upset some of you.turk_182
- sr... to destroy one's neighborhood in anger is just stupid... it doesn't put ME out at all btw... it puts out primarily the poor people in those hoods.turk_182
- Yes, you did. You say people should not hurt others, and in order to do that they should behave like the example you give, judging those who do differently.sr_rosa
- And we can discuss morality of violence against people and things, just don't deflect to create a false debate.sr_rosa
- You know what? I'll accept that & gladly admit to what you're saying as it doesn't involve more death & destruction which is what you seem to be advocating, sr.turk_182
- No, I do not. I reiterate my disposition to discuss it if you want. But if you just keep trying to guess what I think, there is no dialogue.sr_rosa
- I'm 'deflecting' to create what 'false debate'? I'm advocating for a more peaceful approach of which the vid shows ... nothing more.turk_182
- You, however, are arguing that it's somehow an inconvenience for me or that my reason for wanting a diff. approach is that it's 'disturbing or affecting' me...turk_182
- ... when in fact my mind is on those in the neighborhoods being destroyed. You are 'guessing what I'm thinking' too, sr... and you're wrong.turk_182
- First you create a false dicotomy: good protesters vs bad protesters. When contested, suddenly it is about empathising with the poor. Then it is about...sr_rosa
- there is no false dichotomy as there IS good protesting and then there is destructive protest. I know you know this... not sure what you're up to here tho. <3turk_182
- ...not willing to destroy my own possessions. Or being woke. Then it is about me supposedly advocating for death/destruction. All deflections and false debates.sr_rosa
- It's like you're arguing for the sake of arguing... and you've got a cute way of avoiding the fact you got caught indirectly advocating for violence.turk_182
- If you think violence is ever okay toward your neighbor / their property (who hasn't done shit to you) then I can't go much further w/this conversation.turk_182
- My point, again, is that there is no good and bad protests, because you can judge them by many factors, and just because some are more palatable for you,...sr_rosa
- ...they are not better.sr_rosa
- violence toward people who merely live or have a biz isn't 'palatable' for me, sr—again it sounds like you're cool w/violence when it's not necessary.turk_182
- Well, have fun with your false debates, that you seem pretty capable to have all by yourself. I didn't advocate for violence, and stated the opposite repeatedlysr_rosa
- I merely showed a protest can be held w/out violence—zero false debate there. You chimed in and turned something upbuilding into this odd conversation, sr.turk_182
- SlashPeckham0
"We are witnessing America as a failed social experiment" - Dr Cornell West Full CNN Segment
- NBQ001
Non-violent Protests are good but this shit has nothing to do with Floyd or standing up against racism.
- And beyond that it undermines the actual legitimate causes and issuesMondoMorphic
- America is rotting at its core.utopian
- Rome is burning.NBQ00
- The legitimate cause is capitalism. This was inevitable since the crash of 2008, just surprised it’s taken this long.SlashPeckham
- I don’t agree with looting btwSlashPeckham
- Capitalism is the cause? Yeah, right.NBQ00
- This is what happens when you have gross inequality.Chimp
- "people reacting to looting like it's murder is what happens in a country that treats people like things and things like people"Milan
- We're seeing a system that can't correct itself.. Housing, education, food, art are commodities the capitalist system can't deliver in a way that nourishes.SlashPeckham
- So yeah its capitalism. It's eating our society and will burn down the environment. I'm not a communist btwSlashPeckham
- Looting is just stealing and vandalismnb
- There's looting and there's less bad looting I think. If you loot a family store that's terrible and you really screw people. If you loot a chainstore with aBeeswax
- muitimillion dollar corporation that pays min wage to most of its workers, some shady manufacturing in an asian country with tax breaks worth millions againBeeswax
- that's kind of a harm that they have deal with. They can't always win right? Let them lose a little. And you know they are all insured for this.Beeswax
- Yeah that’s fine, but don’t forget that millions see the footage and write you off as thugsnb
- And these looters are those min wage starbucks workers, who need medicaid or medicare etc. if they get sick, who will never own a property and forever serveBeeswax
- Do you want to be right? Or do you want to be effective?nb
- these masters.Before judging looting maybe judge the system.I wouldnt loot coz I can afford that stuff but they can't.The system blocked them from reaching therBeeswax
- In a democracy the poor will have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme.Sellies
- Unfortunately, force always attracts men of low morality.Sellies
- In this democracy it’s the irrational desires of the majority which are in control. Desires which are controlled by.. the marketSlashPeckham
- utopian6
Rioting, looting and protesting is the symptom not the cause.
- Continuity8
This thread is only two months old, and I'm already mentally exhausted from it.
- NBQ003
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- zaq1
Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
