Joe Biden of the day
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- Ramanisky21
More champagne sold in Washington D.C. today than last 2 New Years combined, liquor store owners say
- whatthefunk4
- An infinite number of reasons Biden was superior to Fat Donny, yet 72 million psychotic bigots got it wrong.CyBrainX
- Ramanisky22
Beautiful
- PhanLo0
Joe Biden 'Up the RA!'
-- I'm Irish o'Biden, when I was a lad we Irish fought the Norwegians in the Pineapple Wars. But Joe, Ireland never foug... 'I'M IRISH!'face_melter
- ^Lol.PhanLo
- Ramanisky20
From Twitter
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There are already calls for "forgiveness" and "healing" and "reaching out" now that Joe Biden is elected.
I understand the impulse behind these statements, but they are FUNDAMENTALLY immoral.
The best version of the argument is something like this:
America is a divided country, and pursuing the politics of division will only exacerbate the existing split. It is necessary to model a more inclusive politics that celebrates differences. The assumption is that SOMEONE needs to lower their weapon, and it might as well be the party that campaigned on tolerance. By demonstrating this better way, conservatives will give up their resentment of the left, and return to focusing on shared values rather than partisanship
One problem with this argument is that it is plainly wrong. America ALREADY TRIED THIS. A Democratic president with a legislative supermajority tried to demonstrate magnanimity. The Republicans REJECTED it, demonized it, and used the opportunity to DEEPEN the partisan divide.
That isn't the part that makes it IMMORAL. That is just what makes it EVIDENTLY STUPID as a strategy for national harmony. It didn't work pre-Trump, there's no substantive difference that would make it work post-Trump. We have lots and lots of evidence that the conservative movement broadly, and the Republican party specifically, WILL NOT give up politics of division because it's literally the only tool they have left.
Here's what makes it immoral.
Trumpism is the belief that all behaviour is permissible if nobody can stop you. "If you're a celebrity, they let you do it". It is a credo that justifies ANYTHING. We have seen its results.
Trumpism is Republicanism now. They are the same. What GOP electeds have learned is that shame, integrity, principle, and sacrifice for the greater good are not rules that MUST be followed to get elected; they are rather the albatross worn around the necks of weak and gullible suckers.
Trumpism responds ONLY to power.
If those with power refuse to exercise it in the pursuit of justice, they are REAFFIRMING the central tenet of Trumpism: that grace and mercy are for suckers and that actions have no consequences outside of perception.
Trump and his enablers and allies have committed ATROCITIES in their pursuit of power. They have not paid a price for it, at least not in the only currency they value, which is power. There is ZERO incentive right now for them to change. The party of Trump persists. 70 million voters are a testament to the fact that a huge swath of America simply does not care about any consequence besides winning and losing.
They are unrepentant about the atrocities they voted for, to the point where they voted for MORE. You will not change Trumpism by showing it a kinder path. You will change Trumpism by demonstrating that it DOESN'T WORK, and that BAD THINGS HAPPEN when you pursue it. And if you show, instead, that none of it matters, you embolden it.
That is immoral.
The purpose should not be RETRIBUTION. The purpose should be JUSTICE. And justice means consequences for causing harm, restoration of those who have BEEN harmed. Blowing past that so we can "move on" is INJUSTICE.
Forgiving those who show no remorse is INJUSTICE. So no, granting "mercy" to those who have committed atrocities, who tried to steal their way to power, and who inflamed hatred for narrow personal gain is NOT a path to a kinder and more just world. It is the exact opposite.
Power must be used for justice. It is long past time.
- You don’t need to forgive trump, or McConnell, but you can’t hold every trump voter accountable forever.nb
- If you say, “well they started it!” Then act the same way, we’ll never get anywhere. Sorry. It’s simply the truth.nb
- We should admonish Trumpism, but not the people who voted for it. There is a subtle art to this, but it’s the only way to become a progressive nation.nb
- I agree. It’s holding the wrong doers accountable to show their actions are unacceptable. White supremacists, corporate greed, climate denial etcinstrmntl
- < this is very dangerous language. Why anyone would spread this moronic drivel is beyond me. This is how genocides start.monNom
- the opposition is 'fundamentally immoral" we need to pursue "justice" by making "bad things happen" as punishment?monNom
- "Power must be used for justice. It is long past time." and while we're at it, let's cut the tall grass and find a final solution while we righteously punish...monNom
- those that disagree with us. I'd hate to see what these folks would say had they LOST!monNom
- @monNom This is exactly how genocide, internment camps, spying on your neighbours starts. This polarising 'if your not with me your against me' bullshit is...Morning_star
- ...a fast way to the injustice and oppression of a facist society. Using words like ATTROCITY and IMMORAL is circumstances like this is sensationalist and...Morning_star
- ... fundamentally dishonest. Unity and dialogues is what's required not an immature delight in someone else's failure. Fucking children.Morning_star
- PhanLo2
- Ew?Continuity
- lolsted
- That’ll be the snake in the bed that he talks to little children about.shapesalad
- Bennn3
Biden should steal Trump's slogan, "Make America Great Again" is on point now... Trump haven't made anything great, complete opposite!
- drgs1
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/…
1. Biden's first focus is likely to be the worsening coronavirus
pandemic. He is set to name a 12-person coronavirus task force
on Monday, two sources with knowledge of his plans said.2. Biden repeatedly promised on his first day in office to rejoin
the Paris climate accord, a landmark international deal to combat
climate change that Trump exited in 2017. He has also said he would
rejoin the World Health Organization, which Trump moved to withdraw
from this year3. Biden has also said he will repeal Trump's ban on travel from
some Muslim-majority countries and reinstate the Deferred Action
for Childhood Arrivals program, which allows "dreamers" -- undocumented
immigrants who were brought to the United States as children --
to remain in the country4. Biden listed a number of other priorities on the campaign trail
and in the policies his campaign released throughout the primary and
in the general election, including addressing systemic racism, climate
change and expanding protections for union employees.
- shapesalad-2
Out with one creep, in with another:
- Seriously, look at his hand on the chest of those young girls, his hand is tense, gripping, feeling. Yuk. All that stress needs an outlet..shapesalad
- Oh do fuck off...BusterBoy
- Why? Why fuck off. The evidence is ultra creepy. Unless that some sort of deep fake footage. Clearly Pedo behaviour.shapesalad
- I don’t think that’s pedo behavior. I would think they would try to hide it.monospaced
- Ok then mono... keep away from kids... when i have some....shapesalad
- Please never have kids. You clearly don't have much capacity for empathy, warmth or love without sexual thought creeping in.Nairn
- ^ Nairn +1,000Ramanisky2
- LOL!oey_oey
- has he asked the child if they enjoy being touched like that? No. And that's why he's a predator.shapesalad
- shapesalad-2
- Surprised Trump ran with Sleepy Joe... Creepy Joe would have won him the election.shapesalad
- Not sure who's worse now. At least Trump provided plenty of comic material.shapesalad
- you not sure what's worse? really?inteliboy
- Have you seen the link?? Full on Pedoshapesalad
- all I see is a handsy and clumsy old man.inteliboy
- whatthefunk3
wow, that was quick
- Tire treads are too worn, sound the siren, lets put this mother fucker in the system.moldero
- micro penis man is angryfadein11
- clearly this guy cares nothing for type.sarahfailin
- autoflavour-1
- Ha ha ha ha. A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...shapesalad
- actually funnyoey_oey
