Russia-Ukraine Invasion
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- Last post 10 days ago
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- grafician2
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"I'm really baffled by how little reporting there is on #Olenivka in Western news. In all likelihood, Russians locked dozens of Ukrainian POWs inside a building and then exploded an incendiary bomb inside. If confirmed, it is one of the worst war crimes of this century."
- sted2
- NBQ001
Badass grandpa
- NBQ000
Russian soldier screams “Honor to Russia” and then drives his military truck over a Ukrainian anti-tank mine, killing him instantly.
- pablo28-1
Speaking with CNN’s Michael Smerconish (who notes that he’s a fan of Waters’ music, but disagrees with him on some of his political viewpoints), Waters was asked why he considers Biden to be a fit for the inflammatory slideshow.
“Well, he’s fuelling the fire in the Ukraine, for a start – that is a huge crime,” the artist answered, rhetorically posing to Smerconish: “Why won’t the United States of America encourage [Volodymyr] Zelenskyy, the [Ukrainian] president, to negotiate, obviating the need for this horrific, horrendous war that’s killing... We don’t know how many Russians.”
- https://www.nme.com/…pablo28
- Roger Waters should be innured in his fucking wall.Nairn
- immured, perhaps? d'oh.Nairn
- Sad to use a war for promotion.uan
- like Zelenskyy's recent appearance in a Vogue photoshoot?face_melter
- I had no idea Waters was Ukrainian.Nairn
- Proxy wars are good money.PhanLo
- Roger also claimed a Russian invasion was just western propaganda and fear mongering (prior to invasion). He appeared many times on RT in the pastNBQ00
- So fuck him.NBQ00
- And he seems just concerned about Russians being killed but not the innocent civilians that are being raped and killed by the orcs. So fuck him.NBQ00
- Russia must be crushed. Fuck that cunt********
- Damn, tons of respect gone. Gonna be hard to listen to PF the same now (and was just listening to them).formed
- dude's not wrong. america is using this as a proxy war and the west doesn't want zelensky to stop fighting. biden is absolutely guilty.colin_s
- Notwithstanding Ukraine herself and a load of other ex-Soviet bloc states coming out in force to make a stand against Russian expansionism, right?Nairn
- Is Biden to blame for Finland and Sweden finally deciding to join NATO? I mean, don't listen to me, I'm a moron – listen to the policymakers outside of the US.Nairn
- @c_s so we should just let a dictator annihilate an ally and democracy (not to mention the atrocities to humans and economic ramifications)?formed
- Putin must be stopped. If he's not here, he'll keep going until he is stopped.formed
- Biden is guilty? Putin has been signaling this for over 20 years, started acting on it about a decade ago, and now he's just doing it louder.garbage
- crazy how fixed in their politics some people areFax_Benson
- Didn't the CIA help fund the coup in Ukraine in 2014?PhanLo
- Yeah, but it's a bit more complicated than that. Yanukovych was Putin's puppet that stepped down after mass protests, almost a million people.garbage
- CIA were doing CIA things by working with separatists, but Putin was already doing the same in Donbas well before Euromaiden.garbage
- It is a proxy war, but to put it on Biden (again, I don't like Biden at all) is not seeing the full picture.garbage
- The CIA is not the major disruptive force in this "Special Military Operation". They're probably confused.garbage
- colin_s - that s surely stands for stupid, stupid********
- @PhanLo https://piped.kavin.…pablo28
- This war is a price for Ukraine joining NATO.pablo28
- The Democrats are the true warmongering imperialist party of the United States. Right now they trying to provoke another war against China over Taiwan.Khurram
- Low life American scumKhurram
- This was an interesting report this week https://www.amnesty.…Khurram
- Wonder why Ukrainian atrocities aren't being reported in this war... MmmmKhurram
- ^wow, now that's some hateful vomiting! Not surprising from the party of Hate and Fear.formed
- Does it hurt your feelings?Khurram
- Khurram, facts over feelings...you're cheering on a military superpower as they carry out an illegal war, seize territory from the smaller nearby countryyuekit
- and murder tens of thousands of innocent people while occasionally filming videos of themselves raping babies and chopping people's balls off.yuekit
- Aren't you actually the warmongering imperialist in this situation if you are cheering all of this on? You're literally supporting a military power asyuekit
- they violently seize land from the poorest country in the region, this is called imperialism.yuekit
- Cheering on? Shut the fuck upKhurram
- Did I draw the wrong conclusion from all your comments supporting and defending Russia?yuekit
- Completely failed to comprehend anything I have ever said on the subject. But stick to the topic, yeah? Thanks.Khurram
- Like when you predicted there wouldn't be an invasion at all an? Did I misunderstand that one?yuekit
- And whatever...everyone can be wrong. But you'd think after that you might go back and question whatever source you were relying on.yuekit
- Because after all that was exactly the line of the Russian government, we have no plans to invade, it's all made up by the West.yuekit
- https://www.euronews…yuekit
- Predicting there won't be an invasion is cheering them on??Khurram
- It's a figure of speech...the point is, why would you blame the US Democratic party for what's happening in Ukraine? Do you not see Russia as obviously beingyuekit
- responsible for all of this? A simple way to think of it would be that if Russia leaves Ukraine there's no war. Russia has ability to end this anytime they wantyuekit
- yuekit3
Everyone above who keep saying "America is fighting a proxy war"...it's one thing if you oppose sending military aid to Ukraine.
But this specific use of proxy war...I don't think it's a coincidence you have every pro-Russian influencer, former RT employee and far-right politician also saying this within a few days of each other.
This is a good example of how successful propaganda can be...it doesn't just reach the pro-Russian shills and idiot politicians, it eventually makes it's way into the mind of the average person.
The reason Russian propagandists seized on this phrase is because it makes the USA look like the aggressor. Ignore the obvious reality that Russia started the war, focus on the USA sending aid to the country that is being attacked.
But can anyone explain what Putin's goals even are? Why is he currently refusing to negotiate if USA is the one standing in the way of negotiations? Didn't the USA even limit the type of weapons they sent so that Ukraine is unable to attack Russian territory?
- I'm inclined to go search for 'refusing to negotiate' or 'Russia started the war' to prove you how much propaganda influences both side.uan
- 'Russia must be crushed' or 'kill innocent civilians' all part of this twitter online propaganda war.uan
- Is "Russia started the war" propaganda? That's just a statement of fact. Sorry but you can't tell me Russian propagandists didn't have a role in this,yuekit
- it's propaganda in the sense of the same sentence repeated and repeated to prove a point.uan
- when you've got people who seem to directly spread Kremlin talking points like Aaron Mate and Lee Camp using it.yuekit
- the real problem is the invasion is 7month in and nor the sanctions, nor the weapons brought the war to halt or removed Putin.uan
- Right but what's the alternative? Just let Putin take over Ukraine? Remember Russia refuses to negotiate, they seem intent on seizing land from Ukraine.yuekit
- And if military aid didn't have an impact, why is pro Russian side trying so hard to convince people to end it as we can see here?yuekit
- Some on the pro Western side are also arguing we are reaching a turning point.
https://twitter.com/…yuekit - The alternative is to stop fighting/killing and talk. but it's an almost impossible concept in a culture of war. Mexico, China are on that diplomatic path.uan
- but they don't have lots of allies in it.uan
- China has barely done anything, it's very disappointing because they actually do have influence over Russia.yuekit
- It's not like I have a problem criticizing America I just think objective reading of the situation is that Russia is the aggressor and shows no signs of anyyuekit
- intention to negotiate. Remember the head of the UN asked to go to Moscow to try and negotiate recently. He got no concessions at all from Putin, then he wentyuekit
- to Kyiv to speak with Zelenskyy, and while he's there Putin bombed Kyiv near where the UN chief is staying.yuekit
- amazing how loud and how arrogant people are when their entire worldview has been clearly manipulated by Russian psy ops.inteliboy
- China is supporting Russian propaganda. "Talks"? WTF is that? Your country is invaded, your choice is give up your homeland to a brutal dictator or fight.formed
- Putin has shown zero interest in any compromise. He wants the land and he'll stop at nothing to get it. I cannot fathom how people can defend him.formed
- ^ On a similar note, I can't really understand what possible interest Russky trolls would have in hanging out on a design forum. But, here we are.Continuity
- So, here's one for you Russkies: I wouldn't be mad if your fucked up country got glassed.Continuity
- Pfft, whatever mate. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.Khurram
- American politicians are out there admitting having staged actual coups and you're crying about "troll farms".Khurram
- What great global agenda setting powers they must possess with their trolls...yawnKhurram
- Careful, your butthurt is showing.Continuity
- You've got to hand it them on some level when even people here are repeating the propaganda line.yuekit
- propaganda: corralling public opinion, accomplished by reporting the news through the filter of fear, fear of some common enemy.uan
- in my opinion it's both sides. and both camps use this technique, meanwhile fuelled by what we call social media.uan
- All countries engage in *some propaganda, influence campaign, etc. But Russia has taken it to an absurd level where they don't even tell their own soldiersyuekit
- they'll be fighting in a war until the day it happens. And even now no one actually understands the real motive for the war.yuekit
- And then think about where did this archetypal idea of a propagandistic government we have like George Orwell "1984" come from?yuekit
- It's a commentary on the USSR...and the current leadership of Russia are coming from the intelligence services of that government.yuekit
- In a democracy corralling the herds into a wanted public opinion is done with subtle means. In a totalitarian state (Orwell) it's done by force.uan
- NBQ00-2
- neverscared3
Inside the city of the damned: What's going on in Putin occupied Kherson has been hidden from the world. But insider accounts obtained by veteran war reporter DAVID PATRIKARAKOS expose unimaginable evil - and the awesome courage of the Ukrainian resistance
A cloud of thick smoke hangs over the occupied city of Kherson in Ukraine. Its very stench is evidence of Russian war crimes, on a scale almost too sickening to contemplate.
The smoke comes from mobile incinerators that are running night and day. Vladimir Putin's paranoid soldiers are burning the corpses of Ukrainian citizens tortured and murdered on suspicion of helping the resistance.
- NBQ00-1
Fucking cunts. WTF
URGENT: Russian troops have wired energy units of Zaporizhia nuclear power plant with explosives. Major General Vasilyev, commander of the garrison stationed at the plant, announced readiness to blow up the plant, leading to a nuclear catastrophe. 1/3
"This will either be Russian land, or scorched earth," he said. He also told his soldiers that no matter how difficult orders they could receive, they had to execute them "with honour," calling them "liberators." 2/3
- The Centre for Strategic Communications and Information Security under the Ministry of Culture and Information Policy of Ukraine?
wowuan - @yuekit talking about Orwell somewhere down in this thread...here you got an example in real time.uan
- If they did that it would be no different than nuking things with warheads. I doubt Putin would want to escalate things like that, he'd be destroyed.formed
- The Centre for Strategic Communications and Information Security under the Ministry of Culture and Information Policy of Ukraine?
- NBQ001
The administration of the Crimea annexed by the Russian Federation reported explosions on the peninsula
The local media report that a strike was carried out on a Russian military airfield.
- Another video here. This is a huge explosion: https://twitter.com/…NBQ00
- https://twitter.com/…Nairn
- NBQ00-2
As if they're not always using nukes.
- pablo282
- https://nitter.net/K…pablo28
- I loath this man. But he truly is a genius.rootlock
- If it's a US plot then Putin sure fell into the trap like an idiotyuekit
- Also going by this logic, does he think the USA is the only country that sells weapons? Isn't Russia #2?yuekit
- US sells just as much as the next 3 countries combined (Russia, France and China).
Now this is not because the US is evil.uan - but because of international capital that flows into most profitable markets. And the politics of the US allow those weapon corps to lobby the US Gov.uan
- so the US have the most profitable laws and politics for the weapon industry.uan
- Post hoc rationalisation's a wonderful thing.Nairn
- I'm sure NATO and USA are getting to test out weapons during this conflict and that arms manufacturers are making money.yuekit
- But this isn't the reason for that war, that would be incredibly stupid.yuekit
- I have no doubt NATO is testing weapons, handily selling off near sell by date stock and - more to the point - exhibiting to Vlad just what fight he's picked.Nairn
- I also think it's massively naive/fuck-witted to pretend that the US/West is the sole aggressor in the world. There's a fucking reason the US is dominant..Nairn
- ..and Chinese strategists were making the same case as the US is now, two and a half millennia ago.
Fuck around and find out, I guess?Nairn - Yeah it's hilarious all these billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine. Every single penny of that is coming back to US arms manufacturers and exporters.Khurram
- "With this war, we will create thousands of jobs in our burgeoning military industrial complex!"Khurram
- Wow maybe Putin shouldn't have invaded and created this bonanza for American military companies right?yuekit
- All these attempts at blaming someone else come back to the same fundamental problem which is that Russia can end the war tomorrow if they want to.yuekit
- Nancy Pelosi isn't going to charge into Russia with a javelin and start attacking the Kremlin, if Russia retreats it really will be over.yuekit
- Yes and Russians are angels.NBQ00
- Should we have not given ukraine weapons?scarabin
- pablo280
U.S. weapons exports from 1950 to 2017. Data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute's Arms Transfers Database. Units are expressed in trend indicator values (TIV). Each dot on the map = one TIV. Visualization by Will Geary.
- Create the problem, sell the solution.pablo28
- ok now do rassasted
- If you stop at any given point it's pretty clear that most of these sales are going to US allies. South Korea, Australia, UK.yuekit
- Or more controversially...Sa... Arabia, Israel. But its mostly Western aligned countries' militaries buying equipment from the USA. Other countries will buyyuekit
- from Russia such as China, India and Iran.
https://www.aljazeer…yuekit - The War Machine keeps churning. Need to buy some more defense stocks when the market goes down!formed
- After Russia, then do France, Germany, UK. In the not too distant future, do Korea and Poland or *aNy cOuNtRy wiTh a tEcH/iNduStriAl maKe uP*Nairn
- Since WW2, if you wanted arms, you went to the US, Russia or the UK. Since the 70s, mostly the first two and a smattering of other Eurobloc states.Nairn
- Despite this weird leftist anti-Western utopianistic bluster, even pacific countries tend to see the need to keep a certain level of defence in place.Nairn
- Unless you're fucking Bhutan, of course.
Mind you, Tibet. Oops, sorry - China isn't imperial, is it? Huh.Nairn
- scarabin6
Steven Seagal is a scab for putin
- He's been Russia's 'special bitch' for a few years now: https://www.newsweek…PonyBoy
- YupYakuZoku
- POOOOOOOOOTIN.
Steve Seagull is a fucking wanker******** - Steven who?cherub
- yuekit3
Ukrainian attack yesterday on Russian air base in Crimea...the accuracy is amazing.
- yuekit3
It's actually unclear what happened...whether these were missiles fired from hundreds of km away or some kind of special forces operation. But Russia seems to have lost a lot of planes.
