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- prophetone11
Hey mods - just an idea, before this place becomes Wartoday™ and starts to barf us out on the daily after dial-up it’d be ace to keep this dollar store politics content off home feed... totally heinous, the worst of human behaviour, gag me with a spoon kthx zzz
- +100YakuZoku
- That shitty Trump thread tooYakuZoku
- Get rid of all candidate threadscannonball1978
- <<<<<<<<<< what cannonball saidtimeless
- mort_5
Iran now launching missiles into Israel, which will possibly trigger US action.
- https://www.timesofi…mort_
- i hope Israel isnt surprised by that attack.HAL9001
- US warned them it was imminent!mort_
- yeah, i mean, by kicking every wasps nest around, you can expect to get stung at some pointHAL9001
- At least they’re not hiding behind their Hamas and hez-ebola skirts. Time for them to put their big-boy pants onGnash
- Well done everyone...final step is for Americans to elect Trump so we can have Donald Trump fighting WW3yuekit
- Don's a lover not a fighterPhanLo
- hahaha phanloNairn
- it was rock and fucking roll here in jerusalem.altneu
- wtf is wrong with people? it'll all end in tearsGardener
- Stay safe altneu!!mort_
- Problem is that it started in tears too.Nairn
- But my god says ...monospaced
- so long and thank for all the fishpango
- trigger US action like sending more weapons? the PR spin has worked, that the US is helpless to stop this. Joe doesn't give a fuck, the racist old ratbag.face_melter
- I think Israel wanted to drag the US further into it... send troops to hit their enemies.mort_
- I'm sorry to say that I am now 103% convinced that Israel right-wingers let Oct 7th happen, if not actively encouraged it.Nairn
- Sacrifice a couple of kibbutzim, a mega-hippy festival, some soldiers ready to do their duty, eh, weigh up the cost. "Worth it".Nairn
- _niko4
on twitter it looks like armageddon in Israel, the Iranian hypersonic missiles are raining down indiscriminately, looks like the iron dome is intercepting maybe 5% of them.
BUT most news outlets are reporting that most missiles got shot down.
Curious to hear from renderedred or anyone else there what the true story is?
- it's not as bad as it looks but it was scary. nobody got hurt as far as i know from the local media. one person died. i am @renderedred btw.altneu
- jerusalem was shaking for about half an hour, that is true.altneu
- iron dome got a lot of them. i was outside watching.altneu
- all in all about 200 rockets were fired.altneu
- first wave was so so. but second wave my windows were shaking and making noises.altneu
- the response will be brutal. that is what i'm worried about. a lot of innocent people will die for sure...altneu
- crazy, thanks for sharing._niko
- yup. totally crazy! from gaza to lebanon and now iran...altneu
- here you can see how it was in jerusalem: https://news.sky.com…altneu
- No hypersonic missiles were used, ballistic ones.OBBTKN
- Glad you're ok rrOBBTKN
- thanks ob!altneu
- Stay safe, redGnash
- red, are you in Tel aviv? Did missiles actually hit the city or were they in the outskirts/countrysid... do you think Iran purposefully sent them close to but_niko
- ...not directly into cities/populated areas and thus the low casualties? Saw tens if not hundreds of strikes hitting ground but no damage to any buildings?_niko
- i'm in jerusalemrenderedred
- just wondering if this is just a show for Iran's allies but they didn't order direct strikes/had an agreement with Israel/US as to not escalate things further_niko
- Our local news is reporting that the Arrow system is shooting down the Iranian rockets not the Iron dome.milfhunter
- maybe it's arrow or iron dome i am not a specialist in these matters. but most were shot down.renderedred
- Gnash2
A Palestinian man in the West Bank village of Nu’eima, near Jericho was killed by falling fuselage from an intercepted missile during a massive Iranian missile attack against Israel, according to the Israel Defense Forces.
The man, Sameh Asli, 37, a Palestinian from Jabalia in Gaza, is currently the only reported death from the Iranian attack against Israel.
- Actually just saw the video on Twitter
Unreal.Ramanisky2 - yeah that was the one killed yesterday evening.renderedred
- Actually just saw the video on Twitter
- yuekit4
"They made a big mistake and will pay for it. Whoever attacks us, we attack them. This strike will have consequences."
- Iran was dumb enough to give Israel what it always wanted, a reason.YakuZoku
- old fucks killing thousands and thousands of civilians for fucking religions and political shit. Fuck all of them.HAL9001
- Yup, fuck them all!utopian
- Elected old fucks.mort_
- Cunts are still running the world.jagara
- Cunts are still ruining the world.hans_glib
- this will not end well.renderedred
- Think i preferred COVID to World War 3, but beggars can't be choosers apparentlyIanbolton
- You will do nothing you filthy Israeli cockroaches. Just like last time. You did nothing then. You will do nothing now. Absolutely fucking nothing.Khurram
- You haven't given us a Ukraine update in a while yuekit - what's going on over there? You wanna share a breaking news for us?Khurram
- Maybe put up a picture of Putin the bogeyman to drive your point home? lolKhurram
- https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
- @Khuram that's some strong language man...renderedred
- You really think they'll do nothing? I predict the opposite...let's see who ends up being right.yuekit
- War of Silly Hatsfuturefood
- The Grand Poobah vs the Supreme Wizardyuekit
- rendered - you're a good man and socialist. I anoint you an honorary Palestinian. You will do well as a Palestinian Jew in a socialist secular Palestinian stateKhurram
- Welcome brotherKhurram
- @yuekit - they will do fucking NOTHING.Khurram
- Thisi ain't your daddy's "Middle East" anymore home slice. You are in for a world of pain and you will see what a real quagmire is.Khurram
- And this isn't men in turbans. You can replace that Israeli's picture with the American flag. It's not Netanyahu, it's not Israeli. It's AMERICAKhurram
- It is the Americans who are orchestrating this slaughter of Arab people. As they have done for the last two decades of my life. American pigs.Khurram
- you make it sound like Netanyahu doesn't want to do it.pango
- So all the conspiracy theories about Jews running the world were wrong? :)
In this case the Israeli government is clearly the one making the decisionyuekit - to escalate. I don't know how you could draw any other conclusion after watching the events of the past year.yuekit
- It is the Americans you fucking tool.Khurram
- Netanyahu belongs to America.Khurram
- Israel belongs to America.Khurram
- It is an American decision whether this will escalate or not. Made in the Whitehouse.Khurram
- So the Americans are in control and won't respond to Iran?yuekit
- They’re not orchestrating the slaughter of Arabs, they’re orchestrating the slaughter of radicalized idiots. Brain-dead religious zealots who terrorize_niko
- ...in the name of imaginary gods. Moronic. Saudis are arabs and they’re flourishing, as are Qataris, Kuwaitis, People in the UAE, etc. as are every fucking Arab_niko
- In the US, they are extremely well off, successful and live a great life. As do the Persians in the US and abroad. So it’s not an American vendetta against arab_niko
- Arabs, or Persians or Muslims, it’s a war against fucking idiots. Now having said that, I’m not defending a country who’s about to potentially re-elect trump,_niko
- Who’s biggest celebrity and role model is the Hawk tua girl and young girls’ ambition in life is to sell their ass on only fans, for sure America is fucked but_niko
- So is every other country in the world, all have positives all have shit. I also don’t agree with their one-sided support of Israel, blood’s on their hands 100%_niko
- And I fear that this won’t end well. The US has shown great restraint up until now really, but one day and maybe soon, a home-made nuke will detonate in tel-avi_niko
- Or maybe in New York... then you’ll see what an unhinged, rampaging nothing to lose Yankee is really capable of. Then we’re all fucked._niko
- @niko what are these ‘idiots’ supposed to do when Israel keeps expanding their territory and bulldozing the homes of their families.mort_
- I don't know, do whet everyone else in the world does and solve it with diplomacy, through courts or with their brains? Yeah Israel are cunts they bring a lot o_niko
- of this not theirselves, what with being gods chosen ones and all that bs, but the use of violence only hardens their resolve and justifies their actions_niko
- in their minds, they see themselves as protectors of the land from savages and barbarians._niko
- is Khurram NBQ, but with a beard?rzu-rzu
- Israelis are clever, make no doubt about it, they know world opinion now and historically is against them, but they need some fodder to gather sympathy and_niko
- support. So it becomes, yeah we're taking over more land but it's for security, these animals are slaughtering our youth at raves and bombing our cities so we'r_niko
- ...we're only protecting ourselves and will continue to do so until this violence stops (which they hope never will) and every Arab and muslim is out of Israel_niko
- I just read your comment @Khurram, thank you for the endorsement. I personally don't care. I'm a Jerusalemite, we view things a bit different...renderedred
- ...because we are all mixed here.renderedred
- Neither side ever want peace, the Arabs and Jews both love war and slaughtering each other...Fuck them both!utopian
- just read Khurram's comment too, that's be something, a secular socialist Palestinian state...Arafat's dream. We can only wish._niko
- PhanLo6
- there ARE different voices here in Israel.
https://www.972mag.c…renderedred - https://www.breaking…renderedred
- https://icahd.org/renderedred
- https://tv.social.or…renderedred
- Prof. Leibowitz was right!
https://www.youtube.…renderedred
- there ARE different voices here in Israel.
- renderedred2
Iran’s Ali Khamenei vows Hezbollah and Hamas will not back down
- https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
- surprise!OBBTKN
- lol GnashYakuZoku
- not a surprise at all. cunts are gonna cunt. all sides.renderedred
- Do you think Iran and Hezbollah wanted a confrontation with Israel right now? Or was it only the decision of a few people in Hamas?yuekit
- It was a decision made by Israel and the US in my view.renderedred
- Netaniyahu needs war to stay in power, the right wing in general needs it here in Israel. This is how they thrive.renderedred
- I mean the attack that started all of this a year ago. Of course Hamas would say they are responding to earlier actions by Israel but this is what kicked offyuekit
- The question of Gaza and the West Bank could have and should have been resolved a long time ago.renderedred
- the current conflict.yuekit
- And then Rabin got killed after Netaniyahu called for it from a balcony in Jerusalem. That was 20 years ago!renderedred
- Sorry 30 years ago ;)renderedred
- What happened on Oct 7 last year was Israeli military and intelligence sleeping on the job...renderedred
- And that is Netaniyahu's fault before any other person.renderedred
- So, he needs war, otherwise he's done for good.renderedred
- It's more like they fucked around and now they find out
Bibi & co. going after the heads of the snake, so this guys days are numberedgrafician - I'm not saying Netanyahu isn't to blame but people in Hamas made a decision to attack Israel right?yuekit
- https://en.wikipedia…renderedred
- It's a known fact that Israel helped establish Hamas, read the above article...renderedred
- Yeah they were preparing for a few years, but nobody took them seriously
They did this to themselves, and in the process basically destroyed Gaza and Liban nowgrafician - Graf is right, Bibi even supported Hamas in order to weaken the PLO.renderedred
- what a surprise! Anyone thinking Isareal will shut them down forever is totally out of touchHAL9001
- Seems like they supported Hamas to discredit the Palestinians and it certainly backfired but I don't think Netanyahu mind controls the leaders of Hamas.yuekit
- when suitcases of money were flowing to Gaza (Hamas) nobody did nothing on the Israeli side. So what was going to happen if not what happened...renderedred
- So I guess they let the proverbial genie out of the bottle. And when people say they support Palestine, they support a people who are caught in the middle of_niko
- A shitstorm and self- inflicted wound that Israel caused._niko
- In that case I guess Hamas is doing what Netanyahu wanted?yuekit
- Netaniyahu is to blame for everything in the last 30 years... Nobody else.renderedred
- But you'll also hear people on the pro-Iranian side saying they 100% support the attack on Israel...it's difficult to come up with a coherent narrative.yuekit
- The real victims are innocent Palestinians.renderedred
- @yuekit don't look for a coherent narrative in the middle east. :)renderedred
- Yeah no disagreement there or that Israel created the larger conditions that led to this. Didn't Hamas cite the conflicts over the mosque in Jerusalem?yuekit
- They have different culture, not compatible at all with Western values - this will go on forevergrafician
- But in terms of the decision to pull the trigger on attacking a year ago, people in Hamas did make that decision...and it seems like they made it alone.yuekit
- But would love to see this version of Iran make a come back
https://www.bbc.com/…grafician - that incident was fueled by Ben Gvir, an extreme right wing minister under Bibi...renderedred
- Netanyahu then capitalized on it the same way Bush did with 9/11 and Iran and Lebanon got drawn in.yuekit
- That version exists and then some in the diaspora._niko
- Ben Gvir is a Kahane disciple.
https://en.wikipedia…renderedred - Ben Gvir was barred from serving in the IDF for his terrorist views. And now he's a minister...renderedred
- Who do think has the best chance of being elected after Netanyahu?yuekit
- listen to Prof. Leibowitz:
https://www.youtube.…
He said it a long time ago...renderedred - @yuekit probably Bennet, another right wing idiot...renderedred
- Left wing politics died in Israel a long time ago.renderedred
- So did democracy...renderedred
- Yeah seems the entire Israeli society has drifted to the far right so how will there ever be a compromise at this point?yuekit
- very difficult for anything positive to happen.renderedred
- but the Israel-Egypt peace treaty was done by a right wing Israeli government. you never know ;)renderedred
- renderedred3
Six hours at hands of Hamas - new accounts reveal how Israeli base fell on 7 October
- nb3
- renderedred3
How Israel has made trauma a weapon of war
- renderedred2
As war and religion rages, Israel’s secular elite contemplate a ‘silent departure’
- Unlikely to happen.
Also, it's not the way to effect change.Continuity - I'm old and have nowhere to go :) but lots of my younger friends are talking about it. For real. Berlin is full of Israelis already.renderedred
- More and more streets are closed on Saturday in Jerusalem = Haredim are taking over...renderedred
- And yeah, change, I would love to see a change here. This could be paradise for everybody.renderedred
- https://www.middleea…renderedred
- curious about these dudes from the article: https://i.imgur.com/…
they don't believe in military service, but want others to fight on their behalf?_niko - or are they ok living in a Palestinian state as long as they're still allowed to worship in their temples?_niko
- ok did 5 minutes of reading and answered my own question. Haredim are basically Amish, disavowing most secular inventions including books, film, TV and the inte_niko
- ...internet and most are anti-zionists, so if the state of Israel ceased to exist, they wouldn't care as it's not supposed to exist anyway until the Messiah say_niko
- ...says so. They would be happy to continue living where they are under whoever's rule until that day, or if they get kicked out they'll just be Haredim elsewhe_niko
- also only around 50% of the men work, they instead study at yeshiva after getting married. But they send their wives to work instead which is wild._niko
- yes @niko.renderedred
- but they do have political parties that sit in every coalition siphoning money for them to do nothing.renderedred
- also the thing with kashrut, they are "responsible" for that and get paid loads for their piece of paper making something kosher... it's like mafia.renderedred
- So wife does all the work but no internet or TV...seems like a mixed bag.yuekit
- @yuekit you can even buy a kosher cellphone :)renderedred
- Haredim are nasty, nasty cunts and have ended up causing the Zionist project more problems than anyone else. One therefore wonders...?Nairn
- @nairn they are extreme and don't play by rules of society as a whole. there are many different groups within the haredim umbrella. some are ok but some are...renderedred
- very hardcore.renderedred
- i, personally have no problem with them and their philosophy and religious stance. as long as they don't bother me of course. but they are pretty homogenous,renderedred
- they rarely bother people unless it's their turf. then they can be very aggressive.renderedred
- Unlikely to happen.
- Continuity8
lol ... and yet, you keep sending him weapons, don't you, you fucking idiot?
- ffs
https://i.haasie.com…Continuity - yeah, just read that. mind boggling.renderedred
- Sending more money and weapons on every fronts.ApeRobot
- It's to despair, truly.Continuity
- You think the president decides who and where to go to war?!?!HAYZ1LLLA
- Biden’s long history of pro Israel statements:
https://youtu.be/86N…mort_ - Biden, a blood soaked war-hawk, throws a stone from a glass houseGnash
- ffs
- PhanLo6
- https://www.thejourn…PhanLo
- Ireland is a ‘playground’ for Russian intelligence, says former army chief
https://www.theguard…instrmntl - They’ve lost their god damned minds_niko
- @_niko They lost it a long time agoOBBTKN
- Admire the Irish peacekeepers bravado and really hope they come out unscathed.mort_
- Beeswax0
- They don't carpet-bomb.
They target, in aggregate.Nairn - <Continuity
- And the Islamic colonizers handed out dried fruit and free fez’s to the peoples they kindly requested permission to live on top ofGnash
- flol @ 'Islamic colonisers'
Oh, dear.Continuity - Gnash has been pretty hyped all the way through the genocide. He's up for full extermination.PhanLo
- HEY!!1 LETS NOT GET INTO POLITICS WILL YOU?milfhunter
- Ottoman Empire, cont, just to name one incarnation. They’re not colonizers? lol. learn history on tictocGnash
- For fucks sake, the ottomans are still genociding. But the Jews! Oh boy. MoronsGnash
- Lot's of Jewish people don't support the genocide Gnash, it's Zionism as you well know.PhanLo
- they are all fucktards. muslims, christians, jews and people in general.milfhunter
- ‘Genocide’Gnash
- "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group."Nairn
- I have my thoughts about Islam and its way of 'engaging' with the world, but what Israel is doing now really isn't Kosher. Well, it is in an Old Testament SenseNairn
- Two wrongs make a smite?Nairn
- What's that about the abused becoming abusers, again ... ?Continuity
- They don't carpet-bomb.