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- microkorg0
There's a few reviews on youtube where folk have thought the same as you - that it would be unbalanced - but have said it was actually OK.
The G3 is definitely the business though. I am VERY tempted!
I do like the fact the GF3 is small though and that it's more of a "point and shoot" as that's the way I tend to shoot.
- Cool man, ill check the vids.
I would be more tempted by a gf2, as it has a hot shoe and small, and cheaper. Evf option too.Hombre_Lobo
- Cool man, ill check the vids.
- NonEntity0
My Sigma (DP1 — not recommended!) broke down last week so just got myself a refurb Sony NEX3 on eBay & a 2nd hand Olympus lens. Altogether just around £250 and it's an awesome camera for the size.
Didn't find interface that bad akshully — & havent even downloaded the new firmware yet.
Only deal-breaker for some is no autofocus. Personally I'm enjoying the old skool manual focus way.
Only mention this as another example of possible lower budget (but good quality) set-up.
- cool man, post some pics. Nex series are nice, good high iso and DOF, but kit lenses arent great.Hombre_Lobo
- Yeah the epm1 is oly's answer to the gf3. So like you say, it doesn't encroach on xz-r territory.Hombre_Lobo
- letterhead0
I am disappointed of the evolution of the GF series but excited to see the growth of the m4/3rds format in general. Hopefully Panasonic will introduce something for the photo enthusiast that the GF1 did so well and will fill the gap they made with the GF3
- yeh, rumors are around for an enthusiast GF cam. An oly Pen EP3 too.Hombre_Lobo
- Hombre_Lobo0
Panasonic Lumix G3
http://www.dpreview.com/previews…
exciting times.jpeg high iso-
http://www.dpreview.com/previews…
about as good as a 600d / t3i.While the front view looks a bit strange, it does look awesome. very small for such high quality pics. 20fps a second too, at 4MP.
- 20 fps? wow... @ 4 MB/image? Doesn't that exceed SD Class 10 specs? Must be buffering...adumbratesly
- the GH2 (been out for ages), does 40 @ 4MP per sec! yeh must be buffer, or VOODOO!Hombre_Lobo
- i'm voting voodoo... =)adumbratesly
- microkorg0
Rediculous spec for such a teeny camera, eh?
- microkorg0
Hombre, from that comparison link you just posted with regards to the high iso's it looks like the Olympus EPL1&2 both beat the Panasonic GF2 quite substantially at the high iso's
- They do indeed. The raw files have equal noise but olympus have more aggressive noise reduction. Pana retains more detail.Hombre_Lobo
- Detail, but naturally more noise too.Hombre_Lobo
- big-papes0
I have a g10 a SLR and a s95, I dont really use the g10 much since I got the s95 because it just isnt as portable.
Its either a pocket camera or SLR for me, and the g10 was just a little to in between.
It does take fantastic photos though.- yeh man, thats it, it needs to be pocketable sometimes!
also the s95 has a f2 aperture vs the f2.8 of the g10! great!Hombre_Lobo - I have a G10 too. It is a great camera but, as you say, it's in between sizes. Thinking of going back to an SLRgoldieboy
- yeh man, thats it, it needs to be pocketable sometimes!
- fodcj0
So finally got a chance to go a test a number of the recommended cameras and decided on the:
Panasonic Lumix G3 Body
Panasonic 20mm Pancake F1.7 lens.Got it about an hour ago so haven't played with it yet but am well pleased. Spent more that I was originally planning but hopefully will be worth it :)
- very niiiiiice. saw one in the flesh on sunday :) nice camera im thinking about it too!microkorg
- Hombre_Lobo0
^no way man!!
I cant wait to get a hold of one and see how small it is compared to the older G2 / G1 / G10.I've not seen any in the midlands yet, post some picture of the camera and pictures form the camera! GO GO GO!
We just pana or olympus to release a 40mm 1.8 lens now (to match the standard 50mm f1.8 on DSLR's) and its all good :)
- I thought the 20mm lens on 4/3 cameras corresponds to 40mm on full frame DSLRs...?left_right_out
- it does but i was referring to crop sensors. 50 = 80 on crop, so on m43 - 40 = 80 :)Hombre_Lobo
- fodcj0
- Cool!
ive got the 20mm and love it. rarely leaves the camera.Hombre_Lobo - yeah, think that is going to be the same with me ;)fodcj
- Cool!
- _niko0
my next big camera purchase should have the functionality of an iphone.
Shoot>manipulate>upload all in-camera.
- Atkinson0
that g3 looks a tempting beast
- sorry, GF3 I meant - I want to try oneAtkinson
- yeh looks v small for a quality cam.Hombre_Lobo
- microkorg0
I'm with you Atkinson. I'm holding out for the release of the GF3 too.
I saw and fiddled with a G3 in the flesh at the weekend and although amazed by it, it's still not a "compact" camera for me and that's what i'm after.
Current cam is a ricoh GX100 which's lens zips into the camera so very pocketable. Or with my wide lens convertor on it (which is always on it) its not pocketable, but small-bagable lol.
I think the GF3 with pancake would make a delightfully pocketable high quality camera and with the other lenses "small-bagable".
- microkorg0
I love the shape and feel of the Ricoh range.
haven't used the GR3 though.
I dont think the quality is anywhere near what Panasonic's G range are putting out.
- fodcj0
- Awwww thanks :D
looking good dude! Nice shots, last one is ace. Those blacks are getting crushed!! (not racist)Hombre_Lobo - Disclaimer: I'm viewing these pics on a phone in a pitch black room, so they might not have crushed blacks, just low screen gamma!Hombre_Lobo
- ...brightness!Hombre_Lobo
- Awwww thanks :D
- Hombre_Lobo0
New firmware for the Sony nex series has this awesome feature -
I'm very impressed.
I am a big fan of the nex series. In cam HDR (takes 3 shots v v quickly), iso stacking for iso 12800 with little noise. And such a good sensor, plus it has all the DOF a standard crop sensor DSLR has, something a m43 cam will always struggle to get. Its just a shame the kit lens are slightly soft.
- Hombre_Lobo0
^its just a shame the nex doesn't have an additional attachable electronic view finder.
And of course the nex lenses will always be heavier because of the larger sensor, which causes the wider diameter of the lenses.
When is canon or nikon gonna jump in and make a mirrorless APS-C sensor camera eh? they'd get it right.
- re canon/nikon - no kidding, eh? i know they both have the entry level SLR market saturated, but...adumbratesly
- is that sarcasm or not lol? :P
on one hand they have excellent DSLRs and its working for them, but...Hombre_Lobo - on the other hand semi-pro lens changeable compacts are starting to take a lot market share.Hombre_Lobo
- Hombre_Lobo0
- saw rumours about this too.
"for the ladies" seeminglymicrokorg
- saw rumours about this too.
- Atkinson0
@Hombre_Lobo Are they meant to have interchangeable lenses?
Would seem a strange move otherwise with the xz1 - unless its an update to the xz1?- yeh its interchangeable. it would be silly otherwise as you say :)Hombre_Lobo
- Atkinson0
So im back here again! GF3 is out the question for various reasons. Ep3 and epl3 and epm1 aren't what I'd hoped I don't think. I almost convinced myself into getting the x100 but low light next to epl2 are similar enough not to. So epl2 was the winner except for the crazy light patterns it makes, which IMO makes it kind of useless. So, G3 is looking best. Not tried it yet. Is it as ugly to use as it is to look at? Looks a little like a kids dslr?