damn liberals!
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- jpea
damn liberals!ok, so yeah
whatdya thing of those damn liberals?? (that's a question that my roommate posed to me tonight, full knowing that i'm a liberal).he said that he doesn't see how anyone has a right to bitch about fair treatment in this country and equal opportunity.. it's all what you make of it is his motto. (he's coming from a white suburban background)
basically saying that when someone makes 5.15 an hour at mickey d's they had as much of a fair shake as the next guy
argh!
- Nirvous0
Your roommate is correct. Im not here to support your lazy welfare asses for the rest of your life. Can't find a job? Bullshit. McD's is always hiring.
To proud to work at McDs? Then starve to death for all I care. Cant pay the bills on the McD's salary? Cancel your cable, cell phone, internet, and stop going out every weekend. Sell your car and move into a smaller place.
I love you liberals. You think the world owes you something for the mere fact that you are alive. I dont owe you jack. Piss off and grow a spine.
- Eli0
if liberals believe the world owes them, then conservatives believe they own the world.
one more thing: Fuck off.
- wyatt0
Can we all just spend a day in tijuana, then return and not get into political arguements for a while?
i wonder if anyone has ever changed their stance based on a heated arguement.
- lowimpakt0
already the first post is abiding by the apparent rule of the right.
- lowimpakt0
by 'first post' i mean 'first reply'.
- abizzyman0
nirvous...
finally someone stands up for 'hard work'.
I'm as white as they come - I even have hair on my back, damnit.
I also worked two jobs and went to College fulltime... and have worked non-stop since I was 16. The bank took our house from us when I was a kid... and my parents never had money... so what did I have to do? GET A JOB.
GET A JOB.
- MX_OnD0
aww bizzyman there there... here's an OnD symathy badge ™
for all the hardship you've suffered and wish others to suffer too.
- abizzyman0
where did I say I wish people to suffer?...
.. my point is... if you work hard - you can get where you want. Stop bitching and work at it.
I related a little background about myself because I'm white... and not all white people have 'middle-class' up-bringings...
... but you go right on ahead and whip out the sarcasm MX_OnD... my comments deserved it (ooo... that was sarcasm - I've gone to the darkside).
- MX_OnD0
Aww sorry I didn't realise you're white and have had a hard time of it.....
Two sympathy badges for you in that case.
- tfsmag0
dude, didn't you know? all white folks are born with money! we get every job we apply for too! no excuse!
in response to the original post, your friend is partly right. I think getting out there and trying to make it is step one. However i do think that how easy or hard you have it may, at times, have a lot to do with your gender or race. I suppose what field it is would have a bearing on that too... That situation is more typical i think of smaller towns, and it seems that as you get into bigger more urban areas it's not as much of an issue.....
but yeah, your friend is partly right, if you have higher aspirations that 5.15 an hour a mickey d's they should put a little effort forth to better themselves. just because someone is stuck at a crappy job doesn't mean they deserve extra chances. At the same time, one should realize that it's not always going to depend on your skills or knowledge about something that will get you a job...
i'm rambling now..... you get the point.
- abizzyman0
ain't nothin' like stereotypin' the white man.
i'm the first person to jump up and help... but if you're not willing to at least try... then you don't deserve better.
- Kuz0
White man stole our land and destroyed our culture and killed our people and raped our women and stole our wealth
- lowimpakt0
you can't decontextualise what your saying. One example : how does your economic 'survival of the fittest' (from your perspective) ideology cater for those who cannot work, say those severly injured in a war that is trying to prop up the economy.
- r_gaberz0
could somebody please explain this discussion to a non US citizen?
I don't have a clue how exactly the US welfare system works.
- lowimpakt0
Kuz, white man is too lazy to plunder. He just orchestrates international trade rules that perpetuate the poverty initiated through prior plunder. ;)
- MX_OnD0
If someone is trying to help themselves then they deserve a bit of support (if they need it).
But no:
"just because I had it tough, everyone else should have it tough"Hey I'm a half scottish half swiss fucken 4 foot tall dwarf, don't talk to me about having a tough time of it.
- lowimpakt0
" Hey I'm a half scottish half swiss fucken 4 foot tall dwarf, don't talk to me about having a tough time of it."
lol
- MX_OnD0
did i mention that i'm white?
- Peter0
you had a house to begin with ;)
- Kuz0
Keyensian economics:
with a welfare state, every citizen has spending power, therefore people keep spending, therefore manufactures make more goods, therefore earn more money, therefore create more jobs, therefore economic buoyancy.... ipso facto.