Creationist Lies
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- discipler0
and he's not "my" president. I, like many others, had to err on the lesser of the two evils.
- discipler0
heh, Tick, deal with the science. Either what they are saying is bunk, or it's legit. By focusing on alleged agenda's, you're dodging the real issues here. And, on the founding of IdeaCenter:
"At the close of the lecture, students, community members, and professors alike were engaged in conversations throughout the ballroom. Students who ultimately founded the club noticed the intensity of these conversations--though some were tame and one-sided, others were heated to the point of shouting! The IDEA Club's founders soon started the IDEA Club with hopes to channel this passion in a positive manner through friendly dialogue over creation and evolution among people of many viewpoints. Thus, the IDEA Club was born with aims to promote intelligent design theory to people of a diverse group of backgrounds and beliefs in a spirit of camaraderie, community, open discussion, and unclouded personal reflection."
- ********0
"handful of extremist wackos that are part of an organization, doesn't invalidate the organization as a whole or what it stands for."
-Discipler
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Bro, this ain't like some lackey in the back office - this is a freakin' FOUNDER of three different organizations. FOUNDER. FOUNDER of answersingenesis. FOUNDER of Americanvision,org
Hmmm..and this isn't stuff on the "internet" this is form a freakin whois search and getting the administrative contacts. And then I read the mission statements from these organizations.
That kinda tells me about what the organization is about, you know what I mean..
- lowimpakt0
it is very important to be aware of who is giving you information. especially when agendas are at stake.
- ********0
The science is crap Discipler.
The agenda is scary and evil.
I really don't want to argue this anymore. I am tired.
I'm just tryong to get this up to 666 for some satisfaction to a wry sense of humor...
- ********0
Good site about where other religions come in on this whole debate:
- discipler0
Just say it Tick, "I ain't gonna believe it because I don't want to believe it. In fact, I'm not even going to take the time to look at what the scientists are teaching."
There I said it for you. Now, please link me your information on this alleged wicked founder.
- ********0
Discipler it was linked in all my posts above. Or are you really not reading what I write and just copying and pasting from your propgpaganda sites?
Sure I've been saying that form the beginning...I don't believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis as a part of a scientific curriculum. I did look at whatthe scientists are saying and I stiill call bullshit that they are beginning with the idea that they are trying to PROVE that an ID is behind it. Ipso Facto it's NOT science.
Oh forget it - go back trying to tell me about all the "gaps" in the fossil record and the "innaccuracies" of the dating methodology. And this is my point - the whole point of a scientific mindset is to always question - ALWAYS. New data is always allowed, new conclusions can always be drawn. If you start by saying well it's obvious an intelligent designer created everything and that's your BELIEF that you won't surrender, how can you claim to using a scientific mindset?
I know NO real scientist who would discount god. There are different levels of probability they might ascribe to his existence and influence, but the existence of god is NOT a scientific question. Evolution is. It's not a freakin' philosophy.
God, this is so insane...
You have the freedom to believe in that all you want and I would fight to the death to support your freedom of worship and teach your children it at home and in your church and publish all the literature you want and promote it all you want in the marketplace of ideas. But you're not putting it in my public school and you're not going to put it into my government...
- discipler0
Once again, agree to disagree, Tick.
- ********0
And Disciopler say it, "I don't believe in a non-literal interpretation of the Bible, specifically the creation myth found in Genesis." Go on say it. If you want my agenda out in the open, I want yours stated clearly as well.
- ********0
No, not agree to disagree. You know what I am not coddling to that and I am not going to let you off that easily. Maybe JazX will- but I'm sorry.
I really and fervently believe my country and my belief in an Enlightened Western civilization is under attack from these groups and ID is one evil, insidous way. On it's own it's fairly benign, but as part of a larger agenda, of qwhich I think I have shown here by ling to a who's who of who's running these sources of material, it's an attack on my principles and beliefs and I won't take it lightly or agree to disagree.
- discipler0
My Agenda:
To thoughtfully and respectfully respond to misrepresentations of the Bible and related Biblical issues, when and where appropriate.
There you have it. And yes, I, like millions of others, believe that the Bible, from cover to cover, is the inspired and infallible word of God.
- discipler0
ooooeeewkay, well I disagree anyway.
- ********0
and he's not "my" president. I, like many others, had to err on the lesser of the two evils.
discipler
(Jun 15 05, 06:27)ha ha, you just called Kerry 'evil'. nice one!
- G0D0
i am the invisible giant man that created everything you know in 7days but the ant farm wasn't very entertaining so I got a 13 year old virgin pregnant, who then gave birth to your Lord and Savior.
but the problem is simple
i do not think therefore i do not exist
- discipler0
another for the ignore list.
- ********0
Kerry "evil"? Nah.
A heroic american but alas clueless and not as fun as he probably thinks he is, but evil? Nah..
That Jane Finda bitch was evil...
- ********0
Thanks for the Agenda clarification.
I'm glad you have the ability to defend misinterpretations of the infallable word of god.
What power you have...
I think, in my favorite book of the Old Testament, Book of Job, god himself criticizes Job for presuming to know what God is thinking:
38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Me? I have no idea what god's thinking. I'm not that presumptous...nor do I want him takin gme out from a whirlwind.
More Job here - one of the best stories in the OT IMHO
- discipler0
Yep, great story.
I believe, as Jesus himself said, that Jesus came to reveal the heart of the Father. So, I can definitely know God. That doesn't mean I'd presume to know the infinite mind of God and his purposes in all his dealings with humanity.
- ********0
Kerry "evil"? Nah.
A heroic american but alas clueless and not as fun as he probably thinks he is, but evil? Nah..
That Jane Finda bitch was evil...
TheTick
(Jun 15 05, 07:03)it was a joke, tee hee Jane Finda