obama in europe
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- madirish0
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- rafalski0
He's a politician, hence not to be trusted, ever. No matter how nice the guy he might be.
A lesser evil at best. In two years he'll reach into your pocket and take more of your money and freedom (both for your good).
I'd keep an eye on him rather than explode with enthusiasm.You're working on deceiving the public daily in ad agencies yet you're buying into classic Goebbels propaganda tricks. This guy knew the power of the poster. Or the crowd.
- mrdobolina0
rafalski, I think you may be taking it a bit far.
- You didn't disagree fiercely, that means you know I'm right ;)rafalski
- no, you're pretty much wrong.nearestexit
- madirish0
could not agree more with you, rafalski, on all points.
- mrdobolina0
Not everyone thinks he is the second coming, you know? But I sure as fuck do not want McCain in the White House. Do you?
- "a lesser evil at best", to quote myselfrafalski
- So you trust a smooth media-savy manipulator more than a bubbling gaffe prone run of the mill politician?TheBlueOne
- Just trying to follow the logic...TheBlueOne
- I am a sheep.mrdobolina
- I dont read, I vote for the guy I wanna drink a coors with.mrdobolina
- haha - coorsbulletfactory
- mrdobolina0
//do you prefer the term pessimist, buzzkill or nihilist?
- is 'conscious' an option?rafalski
- not sure if you think that you have had some sort of revelation that other people haven't had in the past or what...mrdobolina
- cynicism isn't a new concept is my point.mrdobolina
- Koby0
Think about it,
-he has a nice new logo, that inspires hope on the horizon.
-he bits on old design posters that have been very successful in the past,Both canidates are working the design angle on their campains now. I'll say its the most graphiclly pleasing ellection season yet, but that doesn't mean that people should look past the list of real issues for the brand colors or look of the guy.
The sad part is, they turned picking your next president into the same process of picking out your new pair of shoes.
----- They know people are sheep ------
- Smart tactics. Targeting the trendsetting and traditionally leftist group: designers, classic commie references a winkrafalski
- again, you are going too far, he isn't running for office in germany.mrdobolina
- That's why his trip to Germany has nothing to do with Germany. It's for you.rafalski
- he isn't a communist though, you know that right?mrdobolina
- dobs- you are being pretty naive here, dude.madirish
- in what way? What is being said here that is revolutionary?mrdobolina
- nothing- that is the point. rad is saying politicians are leading sheep, i agree, you said not to all; hence it is a bit naive, IMO.madirish
- Just be careful is all I'm saying. Revolutions usually end up in disasters, especially won ones.rafalski
- not all people are that stupid, We aren't for example.mrdobolina
- mrdobolina0
Not much different.
- TheBlueOne0
"The sad part is, they turned picking your next president into the same process of picking out your new pair of shoes."
This has been true for going on fifty years now.
- pascii0
lesser evil. politics isn't about good guys and bad guys. there's s much lobbying, chatting and networking going on... you can only change politics in your own town or city
- mjg0
if obama is a socialist, mccain is a fascist.
actually, all republicans are fascists already, they just prefer syllables.
- nicnichols0
So we should vote for the person with the best posters and design?
...sounds good to me
- ..wait does it count if the posters are rips?nicnichols
- Like Shepard Fairey Posters?kern2burn
- bliznutty0
"If we have more NATO troops in Afghanistan, then that's potentially fewer American troops over the long term, which means we're spending fewer billions of dollars, which means we can invest those billions of dollars in making sure we're providing tax cuts to middle class families who are struggling with higher gas prices that will have an impact on our economy."
obama said that. what a total fucking numbnut.
have you noticed that now he is guaranteed a presidential nomination - all he cares about is the war on terror and wants to make sure we stay in that war throughout his term.
he is the classic case of someone who appears to be for the people - but represents party bueracracies and american imperialism
- I fail to see your point.mrdobolina
- perhaps you're a failure dobs?bliznutty
- how does adding nato troops and taking away american troops insure american imperialism?mrdobolina
- nice second grade jab btw.mrdobolina
- jbranda0
Someone failed to mention that one of Germany's largest bands played (Verklempt opened up) and was being promoted throughout the city as a free concert before HE (Obama) went on stage to speak, it would be naive to think that a Senator from middle America with little to no global experience would attract 200,000+ Germans to hear him speak during the afternoon.
- bad info. i donĀ“t even KNOW that band (i am german). believe it buddy, mr.o hit it.gung_hoek
- mrdobolina0
how does pulling american troops out and replacing them with nato troops insure american imperialism? You never answered that. It doesn't make a bit of sense.
- dobs - we aren't on the same level man. give it the fuck upbliznutty
- explain it then, so I can understand.mrdobolina
- ukit0
God you people are whiners. We're close to electing the most progressive guy in decades and suddenly he's not good enough because he has good event staging.
And bliznutty - anarchy? What are you in 5th grade?
- yeah i'm in fifth grade you fucking retard. what are you an adult democrat?bliznutty
- if you can't explain your point, why bother arguing?mrdobolina
- i'm not arguing. my point is made and you just don't get it.bliznutty
- Your answer is to spray anarchy symbols on walls? Yeah, that'll do the trick.ukit
- it doesn't make sense, explain it to us.mrdobolina
- ukit. your answer is to vote for obama. we obviously should not even be posting back & forthbliznutty
- what is your answer?mrdobolina
- Obviously some people just want to shake their fist, it makes them feel cool.ukit
- what is your answer? talking about shaking fists...mrdobolina
- answer: DON'T support wealthy, oppressive, war-loving states. nor be naive that they are not those thingsbliznutty
- do you pay taxes?mrdobolina
- unfortunately yes. however i'm green anarchist at heart. i will be protesting the DNC next month!bliznutty
- oh, that is why there is no talking to you...mrdobolina
- or rather, why there is little understanding from you!bliznutty
- good luck with creating green anarchy. so is that anarchy with environmental rules then?mrdobolina
- an anarchist who pays taxes, fight the motherfucking power, bliz!mrdobolina
- rather someone who pays taxes and has NO voice. my only option is to be a revolutionary and RESISTbliznutty
- spray paint is bad for the environment.mrdobolina
- No voice, blitz? So would you mind explainging to me, and everyone else on the internet, just exactly what the internet is?kern2burn
- is?kern2burn
- ukit0
This is exactly the same as people who said there was no difference between Bush and Gore so they voted for Nader. Great job, guys.
- rafalski0
- so the only thing to do is not vote and be as cynical as possible.mrdobolina
- Do vote, most definitely, I never said otherwise. What am I, some anarcho - nihilist? :)rafalski
- nice photo, hahajanne76