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- yuekit2
Some analysis from a lawyer who works on national security issues
https://lawfareblog.com/malevole…
The malevolence of President Trump’s Executive Order on visas and refugees is mitigated chiefly—and perhaps only—by the astonishing incompetence of its drafting and construction.
NBC is reporting that the document was not reviewed by DHS, the Justice Department, the State Department, or the Department of Defense, and that National Security Council lawyers were prevented from evaluating it. Moreover, the New York Times writes that Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services, the agencies tasked with carrying out the policy, were only given a briefing call while Trump was actually signing the order itself. Yesterday, the Department of Justice gave a “no comment” when asked whether the Office of Legal Counsel had reviewed Trump’s executive orders—including the order at hand. (OLC normally reviews every executive order.)
This order reads to me, frankly, as though it was not reviewed by competent counsel at all.
- whatthefunk3
- LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLmoldero
- fake news
https://twitter.com/…******** - omg - at least spell it right. account is suspended:
https://twitter.com/…fadein11 - FAKE NEWS********
- i spelt it right********
- Ramanisky20
Quebec mosque shooting:
At least five dead after 'three gunmen' fired on up to 40 people
- sted1
Set here is your first kill
A U.S. commando died and three others were wounded carrying out a deadly dawn raid on the al Qaeda militant group in southern Yemen on Sunday, in the first military operation authorized by President Donald Trump.
The U.S. military said it killed 14 militants in a raid on a powerful al Qaeda branch that has been a frequent target of U.S. drone strikes. Medics at the scene, however, said around 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed.
- utopian4
How George Orwell Predicted Donald Trump
The White House’s embrace of ‘alternative facts’ evokes the managed truth Orwell described in 1984 and Animal Farm—a perfect example of the Big Lie backed by Big Power.
- Also see Orwell's time fighting in Spain - Franco's goons pulled the same shit, spreading dubious 'news' that actually placed him in danger or prison and death.face_melter
- His last weeks in Spain were spent hiding from the police because POUM, his outfit, were branded as traitors and conspirators.face_melter
- ********-11
- 'but obama', 'but hillary'...dorf
- < HA HA********
- Wrong. The Queen can move either to the left or right. Trumps right. Then diagonal to Knight as the Pawns can only move diagonal.hobgoblin
- This cartoon clearly shows two things. Trump doesn't know shit and neither does Garrison.hobgoblin
- wait, is this a star trek reference?plash
- ********-2
- ********-11
BREAKING – Elizabeth Warren Caught in MASSIVE $1.3 MILLION Scandal. Time for Prison!
http://usanewstoday.org/index.ph…- getting desperate now?
do not click - it's a fake news clickbait site.fadein11 - lol @ do not click.********
- lol @ your embarrassing sources and desperation.fadein11
- you're running at about ~30-40 downvotes in the last couple of pages alone omg, you should have posting rights revoked for posting shit that's as dumb as you.BuddhaHat
- What magnificent horseshit is this? You may as well have posted a link from some wingnut on tumblr for all the credibility it has.face_melter
- Talk about embarrassing sources and desperation, it's BuddahHat again.********
- It's a fake news site. omgmonospaced
- Elizabeth Warren? Are you kidding me?inteliboy
- Elizabeth Warren Used Loophole to Avoid Disclosing $1.3M http://freebeacon.co…********
- hey omg ... getting approved for a potential line of credit from an asset you own is not a scandal, you drooling idiotmonospaced
- it's not illegal, it's not uncommon, it's not scandalous, it's not problematic, it's not even remotely newsworthy, or interesting, or anything you might thinkmonospaced
- Ahhhh Pocahontas and her former Republican moniker. riiiiiight@@@!!!********
- oh, I see you don't comprehend the situation eithermonospaced
- I didn't say anything about this post. I'm just laughing my ass off at democratic leadership or the lack thereof! HA HA********
- omg = fake newsyuekit
- lack thereof how? laughing why? oh ,right, it's because you don't understand the situationmonospaced
- getting desperate now?
- lowimpakt2
The 141 different positions Don the Con took on 23 different key policy issues during his campaign
- monoboy1
Der Pumpkin Füher now says it's not a #MulsimBan...
- Just wait for the deportations to start. Then it'll start to feel like a regime.monoboy
- Pumpkin Füher aahahah :Dsted
- Wait. It's not a 'muslim ban' per se but a poor muslims ban. The wealthy ones are fine. Even the beheady killy ones. They like Trump resorts.monoboy
- Führer. My spells are bad today.monoboy
- it was never a muslim ban to begin with but the media stirring up the mob againIRNlun6
- yes it wasmonospaced
- We've all seen the footage of him explicitly saying 'total and complete shutdown on all muslims entering the US'. It's a muslim ban.monoboy
- The temporary 90 day bit was underreported. As was Obama's similar policy. But media not entirely unjustified.monoboy
- it is a country ban. he's just letting groups that have not been actively involved in terrorism, the first chance = Christians.********
- ********0
- Some right-wing Christians share similar beliefs to Islamists. I want them both fuck the fuck right off.monoboy
- Secular Government, secular education. As the founding fathers wanted it. Worship who you like, just keep it out of classrooms and boardrooms.monoboy
- If you must teach religion, teach all religions. From Puritan to Shinto.monoboy
- or, It's increasingly difficult to coexist with people when other people are telling you that said people are all trying to kill you, when they're actually notFax_Benson
- I think blurring the line between a 'religion' and the 'religious' is counterproductive. It is perfectly OK to criticise the idea.Morning_star
- not if you criticize the left's positions. if you do so you're labeled bigoted, xenophobic, islamophobic... etc. etc.IRNlun6
- Seems like the starting point of most discussions is you must agree with all my positions. If not then you should not be allowed to speak.IRNlun6
- that's because the left's position is that not all muslims are radical terrorists and actually look down on bigotry, xenophobia and islamaphobiamonospaced
- @IRN You're probably aware but Sam Harris has some good podcasts discussing exactly your point. I agree with you too. The liberal left largely have their head..Morning_star
- ...in the sand.Morning_star
- < BINGO!********
- awe vero found a friendmonospaced
- @Morning_star I am a fan of Sam Harris, although I disagree with his some of his recent stances against Trump.IRNlun6
- Sam mentions how one side thinks terror has nothing to do with muslims vs the other who thinks all muslims are responsible.IRNlun6
- Both sides failing to appreciate how complex the problem is. Trump to me falls in the middle.IRNlun6
- Trump understands there's terrorism in Islam, understands it's a small group and not representative of the whole.IRNlun6
- Trump is very inarticulate in expressing this, so Sam puts him in the camp of blaming all muslims.IRNlun6
- I think Sam doesn't appreciate that this conversation will not be publicly had in an intellectual and articulate way.IRNlun6
- And when you have two very vocal sides that don't even agree that it's so nuanced and complex, well it's going to be messy.IRNlun6
- Indeed. Sadly, it will get worse before it gets better.Morning_star
- fadein110
1 million people have signed the petition to stop Trump's state visit to the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-387…- Lets get this shit rolling people.HAYZ1LLLA
- Do you think it might be better for Trump to come to the UK and have to deal with his bullshit? Stopping him visit is largely confirming his retarded view.Morning_star
- Her Majesty the Queen needs not worry, it's time for a tea party.********
- @morning - yep I agree - just sharing news. Although a state visit is v.different to a visit to discuss policy etc.fadein11
- red carpets, kissing arse etc... communication will always be open but people disagree with him being given the full state treatment which I can also agree withfadein11
- Unfortunately, there's a gaping chasm between sticking your name on an online petition and 1million+ people taking to the streets to disrupt his UK ego-athon.Morning_star
- well let's wait and see - heard that a huge demo is being organised.fadein11
- HA HA good luck with that. More isolation for England?********
- @vero_cloth - what like the same isolation your man campaigned for throughout the election?fadein11
- Well Trump is certainly playing the whole divide and conquer role impeccably, it would seem.********
- All this is true. I signed for a laugh though innit!HAYZ1LLLA
- monospaced3
"If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS's ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president."
-- Trump, the other day, soon after calling the Pope disgraceful for questioning his faith.
- Good for Donald, stick up for yourself. Take the fucking shit pope to task. What a joke the papacy is and has always been.********
- lol ... please tell me you think that Trump has the ability to prevent a terrorist attack on the Vaticanmonospaced
- lolBeeswax
- Good for Donald, stick up for yourself. Take the fucking shit pope to task. What a joke the papacy is and has always been.
- dasmeteor0
- religion? no thanks********
- paul ryan tweeted about this during the primaries too. said he didnt support it.CygnusZero4
- religion? no thanks
- monospaced3
Spicer, the US Press Secretary, retweeted an article from The Onion after mistakenly thinking it was praising him. The Press Secretary, let that sink in.
- Waiting for the "I was being sarcastic" defense.monospaced
- haha - brilliant.fadein11
- Spicer is a man who complains about missing toys in Happy Meals, sarcasm is beyond him.face_melter
- true pros running the show. pmsl.fadein11
- this is coming from the guy that supposedly tweeted 2 of his twitter passwords in 2 daysernexbcn
- he doesn't care********
- if that's true then he should resign immediatelymonospaced
- "grobe"
https://www.youtube.…Bluejam - the US Press Secretary isn't worried about an ill-communicated fucking tweet or simple mistake, but go on********
- yes, and that's why he probably shouldn't be a press secretarymonospaced
- you know it's LITERALLY his job, EVERY DAY, UNTIL HE'S FIRED to be worried about ill-communicated fucking tweets and mistakes, right?monospaced
- but, please go on and let us know that you are okay with this moron in this position, this close to the president... please... go onmonospaced
- maybe he's mad for being made to lie for trump?scarabin
- too bad for you, you don't make the fucking rules. your bias shines through********
- sounding like terry_shit_cloth again there ;)fadein11
- my bias for for expecting my leaders to not make asses of themselves and having an intolerance for lies? yeah, it's shining through alrightmonospaced
