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  • ok_not_ok2

    • are you looking at all of the other incidents or JUST 9/11? how about the plethora of other attacks. where were those guys from?
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    • https://en.wikipedia…Gnash
    • ^ hmmm, Trump's temporary ban doesn't seem so crazy then, huh? What do those Top 10 counties have in common? Hmmmm
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    • hmmm, Nigeria, Thailand, Ukraine...anyway, what's crazy is that the Trump regime went over the heads of every agency in place to help make policy and deliver itallthethings
    • Added to, you know, all the stuff inscribed at the Statue of Libertyallthethings
    • one thing in common is that they were all, except for Thailand, colonised by western countries, mostly Britain.lowimpakt
    • ^^ ya, it's just so bizarre that trump didn't consult those agenciesGnash
    • Apparently thinks he can run the country like he does with his tinpot companies, without any consideration for actual process.face_melter
    • Sellin' ties ain't like running a sovereign state, boy.face_melter
    • This is Bannon's show - agencies pretty much defunct now.Fax_Benson
    • @vero_vandal
      Aren't most "terrorist attacks" on us soil done by Americans?

      http://www.vox.com/2…
      err
    • ^ including the wacko that shot up the queer club? Sure! it's wrong either way. rather be safe, than sorry I SAY!
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    • What foreign terrorist attacks have happened here since 9/11? Spoiler alert: ZERO.CygnusZero4
    • 'queer club'
      You're a fucking pinhead cunt.
      face_melter
  • lowimpakt1

    don the con certainly gets things done.

    he's only been at this shit for a week and y'all on the brink of a constitutional crisis

    • Not really. Many on the left seem to think the US president doesn't have constitutional authority to block foreign nationals from entry.IRNlun6
    • yeah, a constitutional crisis is really getting things done ... :/monospaced
    • Blocking foreign nationals...by that you mean permanent residents, holders of visas. I presume you're fine with Russia's involvement in US politics thoughallthethings
    • I see you haven't read the ban.IRNlun6
    • ^ exactly. presumptuous, biased BS continues to pervade these waters
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    • I guess the issue is not about a few distressed liberals, it's about the entire world looking at your president and either laughing or crying.fadein11
    • I'm aware they did a 180, sort of, after the worldwide outcry. They still detained a bunch of people without lawyers based solely on their country of originallthethings
  • Continuity3

    Insightful, well-sourced, and with thoughtful conclusions.

    https://medium.com/@yonatanzunge…

    '[...] the administration is testing the extent to which the DHS (and other executive agencies) can act and ignore orders from the other branches of government. This is as serious as it can possibly get: all of the arguments about whether order X or Y is unconstitutional mean nothing if elements of the government are executing them and the courts are being ignored.'

  • hobgoblin2

    It's almost as if the country is being run by a man who's declared bankruptcy 4 times, is on his 3rd marriage, has no friends, and is mad at the world.

    • And is mostly famous for being a game show host.CygnusZero4
  • Continuity2

    On another note, if you've got a bit of cash in your pocket you're itching to spend, Landbrokes has 11/10 odds on Trump either being impeached or resigning before the end of his first term.

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    In 1995, Bill Clinton defended America’s borders and promised to cut down on illegal immigration. Congress gave him a standing ovation. Even if he didn’t mean it.

    Today, Donald Trump speaks out on safe borders and national sovereignty and the media labels him a racist.

    • http://www.washingto…
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    • We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of
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    • 'but clinton...'fadein11
    • abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it. - William J. Clinton
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    • 'but clinton...'fadein11
    • 'but Chester A. Arthur in 1882'hobgoblin
    • For a guy who hated Clinton and often talks poorly of him and his Presidency, it's ironic you keep posting this.hobgoblin
    • remember when you kept posting about Bill's illegitimate son, basically discrediting his Presidency and character? member?hobgoblin
    • or remember when you kept posting about Bill's 'corruption', basically discrediting his Presidency and character? member?hobgoblin
    • I think people labelling Trump a racist might have more to do with refusing to rent to black people, saying Obama was born in Africa, retweeting whiteyuekit
    • Bill Clinton was a good president, regardless of party affiliation. His statements should be respected. Sounds like Trump to me.
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    • supremacists, and a few other minor details like that.yuekit
    • Hiding racism behind policy is cowardlyerr
    • Don the Cons exec Ordet is not about illegal immigrationlowimpakt
    • Restrictions from Obama years broadened to a ban
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    • vero lives in alternative realityfadein11
    • vero_jazx believes if he tells the same lie long enough it will become truehobgoblin
    • you can't have it both ways. that is not how it works.
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    • Everything isn't black or white. Use your fucking head.err
    • stop reading infowarserr
    • vero_jazx_von_cum_cl...utopian
  • hobgoblin4

    President Donald Trump smashes record to get fastest majority disapproval rating ever.

    It took just eight days for Trump to get a majority of Americans disapproving of him.

    HW Bush - 1336 Days
    W Bush - 1205 Days
    Obama - 936 Days
    Reagan - 727 Days
    Clinton - 573 Days
    Trump - 8 Days

    LOFL.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/…

    • You can also guarantee that approval is pretty much the highest anywhere in the world except for possibly Russia.yuekit
    • Er ... surely you mean lowest, yuekit?Continuity
    • he meant disapprovalmonospaced
    • I meant he is hated even more by most people around the world.yuekit
    • Ah, quite. Sorry lads, bit of a mis-read, there.Continuity
    • #GoTeamTrump!utopian
    • Oh the irony when the actual swamp is drained.fadein11
    • in which pollster's flawed data eyes? fucking Gallup had Hillary winning BWHAHAHAHA
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    • Gallup. Try readinghobgoblin
    • Fox News poll finds Trump's favorable rating at 42 percent. Unfavorable rating as of an hour ago is 55 percent. Is Fox good enough for you?hobgoblin
    • Your story mentions Gallup. Fox News has his higher than what the lib outlets have him at, big fucking deal. Subjective crap. Sample sizes are fucked.
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    • CHANGE. I believe you all know that word very well indeed.
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    • Can't. Handle. Facts.

      You going to be ok vero?
      hobgoblin
    • he seems dangerously triggered by thismonospaced
  • BonSeff0

    "The president went out of his way to recognize the Holocaust."
    -Sean Spicer

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  • sted0

    Thanks for your patience. Representatives are currently helping other customers. Your position in line is 18 and your wait time is approximately 11 minutes.

    thanks trump

    • ?lowimpakt
    • renewing my visasted
    • (before it's to late lol)sted
    • Line for Gas Chamber?

      Is that how Trump went out of his way to recognize the Holocaust?
      hobgoblin
    • Ahahahha :Dsted
    • hope it works out for youlowimpakt
  • Beeswax0

    This will make an Oscar nominated movie in 8 years I tell you.
    If you want to get famous start scribbling some screenplay now.

    In fact I just watched Zootopia and its basically this situation.

    • There is a movie already in the pipeline :)sted
    • lolyuekit
    • Yep, Universal won the bidding, it's called Little America, and it's being directed by Michael Bay. It's gonna be yuuuuuuuuge.BuddhaHat
    • The Wolf of White Housetank02
    • lol tankmoldero
  • lowimpakt2

    UK petition asking to block president bannon/trump from making a state visit to the UK hits more than 1.5 million sigs

    https://petition.parliament.uk/p…

    that's the same amount as don the con dreamt was at his shitshow of an inauguration.

    • This is kind of a big deal.hobgoblin
    • Embarrassingmonospaced
    • It is a big deal. And Theresa May would rather French-kiss Trump's arsehole than respect the signatories of this petition with a debate in the Commons.Continuity
    • They are debating it, immediately...
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    Be Careful What You Wish For (especially if it is Hitler)

    Guest Post by Scott Adams

    As a trained persuader, I’m seeing a dangerous situation forming that I assume is invisible to most of you. The setup is that during the presidential campaign Trump’s critics accused him of being Hitler(ish) and they were sure other citizens would see it too, thus preventing this alleged monster from taking office.

    They were wrong. The alleged monster took office.

    Now you have literally millions of citizens in the United States who were either right about Trump being the next Hitler, and we will see that behavior emerge from him soon, or they are complete morons. That’s a trigger for cognitive dissonance. The science says these frightened folks will start interpreting all they see as Hitler behavior no matter how ridiculous it might seem to the objective observer. And sure enough, we are seeing that.

    To be fair, Trump made it easy this week with his temporary immigration ban. If you assume Trump is Hitler, that fits with your hypothesis. But of course it also fits the hypothesis that he’s just doing his job. We’re all seeing what we expect to see.

    But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons. No one wants to be a confirmed moron. And certainly not after announcing their Trump opinions in public and demonstrating in the streets. It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. It’s a threat to their egos. A big one.

    And this gets me to my point. When millions of Americans want the same thing, and they want it badly, the odds of it happening go way up. You can call it the power of positive thinking. It is also the principle behind affirmations. When humans focus on a desired future, events start to conspire to make it happen.

    I’m not talking about any new-age magic. I’m talking about ordinary people doing ordinary things to turn Trump into an actual Hitler. For example, if protesters start getting violent, you could expect forceful reactions eventually. And that makes Trump look more like Hitler. I can think of dozens of ways the protesters could cause the thing they are trying to prevent. In other words, they can wish it into reality even though it is the very thing they are protesting.

    In the 3rd dimension of persuasion, the protesters need to be proven right, and they will do whatever it takes to make that happen. So you might see the protesters inadvertently create the police state they fear.

    If you are looking for the tells that this dangerous situation is developing, notice how excited/happy the Trump critics seem to be – while angry at the same time – that Trump’s immigration ban fits their belief system. If you see people who are simply afraid of Trump, they are probably harmless. But the people who are excited about any Hitler-analogy-behavior by Trump might be leading the country to a police state without knowing it.

    https://www.theburningplatform.c…

    • His Hitler filter/Persuasion filter argument was interesting, but I think it fails a bit inasmuch as he doesn't have much persuading to do with someone like...BuddhaHat
    • Steve Bannon.BuddhaHat
    • And you'll not get much argument from me that what he's trying to do what his voters wanted him to do re: immigration and lobbyist bans...BuddhaHat
    • It's the fact his voters are xenophobic, homophobic, wildly misinformed and hateful people; and Trump's fulfilling their vision of America. And it's horrible.BuddhaHat
    • Trump isn't the new Hitler (obviously) but he is Bannon's trojan horse, and Bannon is genuinely scary.Fax_Benson
    • He's also got a greedy, corrupt Congress backing him to the hilt, so they can spend their time during the chaos filling their own pockets.BuddhaHat
    • And the people, and the environment will suffer hugely as a consequence.BuddhaHat
    • Bannon's too fucked up for you, vero.Fax_Benson
    • https://www.youtube.…robotron3k
    • You can flip this around and say Scott Adams will look like a moron if Trump turns out to be a disaster (which he shows every sign of being).yuekit
    • Whether or not he is literally Hitler, people didn't invent this idea of him being an authoritarian out of nowhere.yuekit
    • You can't on one hand say torture is great and we should ban an entire religion and crack down on the press, and then turn around and complain about liberalsyuekit
    • exaggerating.yuekit
    • This guy never suggested an opinion for our against Trump. SO much black and white thinking going on with this Trump ordeal.
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    • You say one word that doesn't jump in bed with the 100% hatred for trump camp and they assume you support him. Small minded thinking.
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    • Well he did say he was supporting Trump
      http://blog.dilbert.…
      yuekit
    • yuekit in with factsmonospaced
    • I didn't read his order posts but you were speaking about flipping what he has said around and him being a moron, but that doesn't work but in the above..
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    • .. he took no stance, it was just an interesting psychological view point. I didn't read his other posts.
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    • My phone typing is atrocious, sorry. I thought it was an interesting psychological idea, regardless of his, mine on your stance on Trump.
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    URGENT PETITION: Issue an International Arrest Warrant for George Soros

    Formal Petition Filed at the WhiteHouse.gov

    George Soros Must Be Arrested Post Haste For Crimes Against Humanity.

    George Soros is a menace to the free world and stands in the way of making America great again. He is guilty of the following crimes:

    1) Financially supports open sedition in major American cities resulting in millions of dollars of property damage as well as loss of life.

    2) Attempts to manipulate democratic elections by donating millions of dollars to his preferred candidates.

    3) Seeks to curtail American sovereignty. In his own words: “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States ... Changing [the] attitude and policies of the United States remains my top priority.”

    4) Is a currency manipulator. Soros initiated a British financial crisis by dumping 10 billion sterling, forcing the devaluation of the currency and gaining a billion-dollar profit.

    To sign this petition, please click HERE.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov…

    • awe, fewer than 600 signatures since it started 9 days ago ... cutemonospaced
    • 596 signatures in the past 9 days. It's really picking up steam!hobgoblin
    • I guess you think Soros is a good man, mono? Not sure I understand the ridicule.
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    • The one demanding Trump's tax returns has 1/2 million already and it's only 10 days.monospaced
    • I said nothing of the naturemonospaced
    • lol it's his fault all of it. like you know.
      just lol at these bulletpoints :D
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    • It's pretty sad that less people know of Soros's corruption and influence, sure.
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    • Your country already has 1.5M+ signatures since Saturday demanding Trump not visit.monospaced
    • None of these things are illegal. He should be arrested for his beliefs, or for donating money to activist groups?yuekit
    • I don't get you set. Soros... bad for all these things. Trump... good. Let's give him a chance. How the fuck can you gloss over all of Trumps indiscretions andhobgoblin
    • corruption? I honestly don't get it.hobgoblin
    • to be fair, set doesn't come from the "trump is good" campmonospaced
    • Yes, but why this? Why?hobgoblin
    • for example Soros plays a key role getting money for the only foundations who support civil rights and compliance of the constitution in my country.sted
    • example if you have a case against the government what otherwise, you lose they help you to get a lawyer. regardless of the outcome, because the gov. does shitsted
    • not to mention the radios his foundations supported (there is 2 fucking radios here what isn't state owned). and only one of them cares about politicssted
    • the biggest lol in all of this that most of the far right in central europe was sponsored by soros against rassa (they are the ones who want his head on a spit)sted
    • http://uk.businessin…cotton
    • Thanks mono. Hobgoblin I don't support Trump for one second. You assume I do because I've posted material that looks from both angles... I assume.
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    Israeli PM seeks parliamentary vote on law legalizing settlements

    Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:32AM

    ‘Israeli Prime Benjamin Netanyahu is seeking a vote at the Knesset (parliament)
    aimed at legalizing all wildcat settlements built on occupied Palestinian lands.

    A statement by Netanyahu’s office said a bill would be sent to the parliament later
    on Monday “to allow us to regularize once and for all settlements in (the occupied
    West Bank) and prevent repeated attempts to damage them.”

    Wildcat settlements are those built by Israeli settlers without Tel Aviv’s permission.

    The prime minister further said the proposed law is “designed to normalize the
    status of” the Judea and Samaria settlements in the West Bank.’

    Read more: Israeli premier to seek parliamentary vote on law legalizing settlements

    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/201…

    • Did anyone really believe Trump was going to do jack squat about this? Trump is going to outsource Middle East policy to Putin.hobgoblin
    • Current Israeli gvmnt is off the leashFax_Benson
    • ...there was a leash?see_thru
  • Gardener6

    meanwhile in England...

  • hobgoblin3

    Am I correct in reading that the Quebec Mosque shooter (terrorist) is White, named Alexandre Bissonnette, and through Facebook had expressed sympathies online with the National Front, the far-right political party in France, and was a pro-Trump fanatic.

    Am I correct in reading that?

  • utopian3

    Trump signs executive order to slash regulations

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump…

    • Holy shit @ the Trumpers in the Yahoo comments section... do they not remember a deregulated market causing the 07-08 GFC?BuddhaHat
    • For every new regulation 2 current regulations have to get cut. wtf is that shit? This is a great way to deregulate everything that's really importanthobgoblin
    • It's like saying 'sure, you can cure cancer, but if you do, you have to bring back polio and the bubonic plague'BuddhaHat
    • Hobgoblin, it's the musings of an intellectual imp.mg33
    • Exactly. Or, 'sure, you can add a regulation to persevere our National Forests, but if you do, you have to deregulate this pipeline and offshore oil regulation'hobgoblin
  • lowimpakt0

    media already saying "lone wolf"

    nothing connected with the pervasive alt-right far right movement

    a movement actively enabled by someone who now sits on the US National Security Council

    a movement entirely legitimised by don the con and his cesspool cabinet

  • BuddhaHat1

    The White House Is Outraged Democrats Aren’t Giving Trump’s Supreme Court Nominee A Chance

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/en…

    "WASHINGTON ― White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said he found it quite “sad” that Senate Democrats are preparing to filibuster President Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, without even considering his or her qualifications.

    “He met with a bunch of Senate Democrats to talk about the qualities they want in a judge. And before they’ve even heard who this individual is, you’ve got some of them saying, ‘Absolutely no.’ That just shows you that it’s all about politics. It’s not about qualification,” Spicer told reporters in his daily briefing Monday."

    You have to be fucking kidding me. This guy is a grade-A fucking asshole. He knows exactly how ridiculously hypocritical that is.

    • Yuri, you too, are a grade-A fucking asshole, and a giant troll to boot. Go fuck yourself.BuddhaHat
    • I've noticed that you resort to all caps when you can't handle the cognitive dissonance, and you just have a brain fart. You really are stupid.BuddhaHat
    • If the Dems blocked a SCOTUS nomination for 8 years your repeated apoplectic fits would turn you into more of a drooling simpleton than you are now.BuddhaHat
    • yes, that you will eventually be rendered nothing but a drooling simpleton is indeed just a matter of timeBuddhaHat
    • One power the presidency brings is the power of the bully pulpit or power of the podium. Trump will likely be using this power to the fullest.IRNlun6