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- mg332
Here's where liberal media really irritates me. The information, data, logistical challenges, etc. is PLENTIFUL. Maps and geographic documents are PLENTIFUL.
I don't know why the mass media isn't breaking down things like logistical challenges of building on the border far away from any populated areas. Or showing the terrain and why it would be tough to build there. Or breaking down the cost of concrete and steel, labor costs, etc. etc. etc. etc.
I mean it's all RIGHT THERE to be analyzed and parsed and turned into something digestible and real that goes even further to illustrate how dumb the idea of a wall is. Hell, show how long it would take and that we'd be building it for a decade or more.
They could also break down the illogical comparisons to things like the Great Wall of China (built over 2,000 years), or the wall in Israel that is only 400 miles long.
I mean, it's just infuriating that such obvious conversations are skipped. I was obsessively reading about logistics of building a wall back in 2016.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-…
https://www.citylab.com/life/201…- communication strategies based on facts and numbers are so '90.sted
- this is all true ... but I'm not really convinced it's the job of the media to solve this issuemonospaced
- The fact that you can throw a kid into the USA they become an auto-citizen, USA is basically kidnapping or trafficking kids with our laws. Is this moral??robotron3k
- stfu robo, seriouslymonospaced
- ¿Qué pendejo?robotron3k
- Say something menso, i'm gonna start teaching you Spanish. Are you ready mañoso, atasco, sucio..?robotron3k
- why are you pretending to be mexican? so weirdmonospaced
- robotron3k i'm glad you reached the quantum level, bye.
@mg33 breaking down the costs will only work if you actually take that money from peoples pockets.sted - @mg33
Because the liberal media's argument is that there's no need for a wall, that there's no immigration crisis.******** - From that point of view arguing about logistics would be unnecessary, stupid even.********
- There isn't really a need for a wall though...see_thru
- I agree with everything you said except your description of the media as "liberal." They're multinationals.allthethings
- do the job, emphasise the discussion about the actual production. (please don't)sted
- This is the same reasoning why the #failingNYT didn't publish an article detailing the flaws in aerodynamics of flat earther 'Mad' Mike Hughes' rocket.********
- I'm glad there are free thinkers putting the time in crunching the numbers instead of leaving it up to the #liberalmedia to fill our heads with #fakenews.********
- BonSeff3
Pelosi going HAM with daddy casino bail out smack.
"He thinks maybe they can just ask their father for more money, but they can't."
- wow. mic dropdbloc
- They should just pass a bill authorizing the wall as soon as Mexico's cheque clears.zarkonite
- ^sarahfailin
- inteliboy0
Rather revolting when this guy says immigrants and poor people are a problem and need to be kept behind a wall.
- "I can relate".
Motherfucker.BusterBoy - he's never said poor people are a problemchukkaphob
- and he's clearly made a distinction in saying ILLEGAL immigrants are a problem (and NOT the legal ones)chukkaphob
- i'm sure this guy can relate to my life and lifestyle. gold everything.capn_ron
- @capn_ron do you like gold everything? are you jealous? looks horrible! LOLchukkaphob
- i only eat gold steaks and the interiour of my 1992 4runner is completely gold plated. i wear gold contacts to make everything else gold.capn_ron
- you don't appreciate your 1992 4runner? fuckking awesome, compared to what bikes and broken mopeds poor people use.chukkaphob
- You think YOU relate to poor(er) peoople? doesn't sound like it! LOLchukkaphob
- no way man! if Trump shot someone on 5th Ave. i would make him a gold award. I am a true suporter. Gold toilets and all.capn_ron
- lose an argument, change the topic. LOL! Typical hypocrite mentality. SMHchukkaphob
- nope, #golderrythang . don't hate on it chukka.capn_ron
- 1992 4runner is sooooo nice! you're priviledged not only to be able to afford a car, but to drive such an awesome one!chukkaphob
- Revolting is right.monospaced
- oh look, another priviledged hypocrite decided to chime in :)chukkaphob
- chukka the snowflake, mad cause he doesn’t have gold teeth and a gold toilet. Go hang with the poor people chukka.capn_ron
- Privileged hypocrite? You have some imagination.monospaced
- I’m not even talking to you.monospaced
- triggered priviledged hypocrites are triggered! LMAO!chukkaphob
- looks like you're trigger chukka. poor little snowflake. just let the gold consume you already.capn_ron
- gold is tacky AF. Horrible look and stylechukkaphob
- hypocrites? privileged? gtfomonospaced
- yup. hypocrites. privileged. very mcuch so.chukkaphob
- you MUST be speaking to your own privelege and hypocrisy, because you're obviously bothmonospaced
- You're sure as FUCK are not talking about me. If you are, you're fucking deluded.monospaced
- My point is that priviledge is relative; so you and capn_ron both exhibit it. Furthermore, calling someone else priviledge makes you both hypocrites.chukkaphob
- Follow the logic? It's not that hard to grasp this. You can figure it out. You got this. I believe in you! :)chukkaphob
- My point is that I'm not priveleged, and you're making an assumption. And if I'm priveleged (i'm not), then you, by deduction, must be as well.monospaced
- Fact is, I didn't call you priveleged. That's you making those assumptions.monospaced
- I'm not a hypocrite in any way shape or form. I'm not becuase i'm not making accusations, and I'm not priveleged.monospaced
- and none of this is relevant to the fact that Trump and his views are revolting ... anyone, priveleged or not, can see that if they're not a fucking idiotmonospaced
- ok ok, cool your tits! too triggered.
don't get so defensive :)chukkaphob - I'm no trump supporter, but I do have some questions that I would love inteliboy to clarify...********
- 1. So you would have total open borders and let anyone and everyone in to your country?********
- 2. Who said anything about keeping poor people behind a wall? Do you think it's acceptable to literally be spreading misinformation like you are?********
- Just curious. And fuck Trump...********
- It's possible to have a secure border without a physical wall. I don't think anyone here is advocating an open border situation.monospaced
- Damn straight I'm triggered. You called me a privileged hypocrite and you don't even know me. Of course I would react; you would do the same, snowflake :)monospaced
- UGH! you got me. Now I'm really triggered. NOT :)chukkaphob
- @set +2chukkaphob
- yes you aremonospaced
- def not. LOL!!chukkaphob
- "I can relate".
- colin_s5
at least AOC is swinging the 70% marginal rate on >$10m incomes ... bout time we got back to some eisenhower / new deal era tax rates, or at least started fucking talking about it
i remember obama and the GOP fighting between like 35 and 36 percent and wanting to vomit
- AOC 2024 - just you wait!robotron3k
- the tippy tops should pay their fair shareBoz
- is 70% fair?zarkonite
- AOC 2024 - Can't wait.see_thru
- "Fair" is subjective, but keep in mind this is a marginal tax rate - they're taxed the same as anyone else on amounts prior.ben_
- and usually a lot less than anyone else because they claim dividends, etc. instead of incomes.ben_
- R_Kercz0
Interesting document presented to furloughed Coast Guard:
https://www.scribd.com/document/…source: WAPO https://www.washingtonpost.com/n…
- "Have a garage sale" - yeah there's nothing like spending 2 days cleaning out your stuff to make fifty cents.ben_
- allthethings0
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2…
CONSERVATISM JAN. 8, 2019
Why Tucker Carlson Plays a Critic of Capitalism on TV
- BonSeff3
I'd like to report another murder.
https://twitter.com/Stonekettle/…
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Rep. Matt Gaetz
Where is the Democrat plan for border security? They say border security is important, but if that is true why don't they have a plan that would secure the border? If the wall is offensive to them then what is the idea that will give some sense of security to American families?
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Let us review, @mattgaetz
Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013. Blocked by Republicans. Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2014. Blocked by Republicans.January 2018, Democrats insist immigration be addressed, Republicans refuse, government shuts down over impasse. Democrats agree to reopen the government in return for a bait and switch scam from Trump and McConnell to bring comprehensive immigration reform to the table...
...taking us to June, 27, 2018 when REPUBLICANS vote against their OWN immigration reform bill because Trump won't sign it. Matt Gaetz himself votes NAY. Repeat: Matt Gaetz himself VOTED NAY ON REPUBLICANS' OWN IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL.
NOW Gaetz demands to know the Democrats' plan?
Florida District #1 suffers from inequality, poor healthcare, lack of economic opportunity, gun violence, drug addiction, and poverty, NONE of which is caused by immigrants but instead by poor leaders such as Matt Gaetz.- it doesn't matter.********
- If violent crimes were a problem, or if they were mostly caused by immigrants I'd be all for reform. As it stands, the better investment would be in increasingzarkonite
- economic opportunities, better mental health support and criminal reform to provide better rehabilitation. This whole blame the immigrants for everything iszarkonite
- bullshit. It's just too easy to blame people that don't have a voice and right now it's taking the focus away from real problems.zarkonite
- it's easy to blame immigrants if you're racist, poorly skilled, poorly educated and ignorantmonospaced
- it doesn't matter.
- BonSeff0
The House has now approved a bill passed by the Senate, okaying back pay for federal workers *after* the shutdown is over. The vote was 411-7.
Here are the 7. All Republicans.
- Andy Biggs is a giant piece of shit.mathinc
- They get paid anyways! Surprise!!!robotron3k
- They haven't been paid in weeks, robo.monospaced
- Robo can't read so good.mathinc
- fooler4
- Another Prick and his wall.PhanLo
- what wall?monospaced
- Fence?fooler
- See through slatsRamanisky2
- lolsee_thru
- robotron3k-10
And this pendejo from my hometown is also running for the President, Julian Castro...
- why you always worried/trolling/pos... about what everyone else is doing, but never trump?inteliboy
- He’s the best thing that came from that shithole town I suppose?monospaced
- Butthole Surfers were actually...robotron3k
- I do think he might be the most eloquent of the Democratic candidates, he needs to be taller to win, as stats go...robotron3k
- utopian5
- That guy is the worst of the worst.tank02
- i wish his skin suit was fixed a bit better round the neck.PhanLo
- https://www.youtube.…renderedred
- He always has that "I wonder if anyone will notice I pissed myself" look on his face...see_thru
- ********-1
If Ocasio-Cortez is labeled the leftist Palin, and labeled a n airhead or something, I would still say she's the leftist airhead we need.
- yes yes... please hire the inexperienced bartender to make economic decisions on my behalf! ...a 29 year old socialist fool... have fun w/that.PonyBoy
- love how folks point out that NAZI has the word 'nationalist' in it to attack alt-right twats... but forget the other half of the term.. 'socialist'PonyBoy
- @pony hitler abandoned socialism after killing top lieutenants on kristallnacht, also socialism maintains the entire upper class of americacolin_s
- late capitalism is brutal to our middle and lower class, mass redistribution of wealth and high taxes on ultra-rich and corporations are goodcolin_s
- AOC ain't an airhead, that's just press because neoliberal dems don't like her because they're all in lobbyist pockets as wellcolin_s
- She's as qualified to be in Congress as much as most of the other cunts there.BusterBoy
- I'm in total agreement w/Buster... colin... some valid points. (and to be clear I don't think modern day nationalists or socialists are anything like NAZIs...PonyBoy
- ... was just being a rhetorical dick) :) As far as capitalism goes— capitalism seems to hold up better than socialism (historically)... yes we need changes...PonyBoy
- ... but you don't need upwards of 80% of someone's income to make those changes. I wonder if she makes a good long island... love long ice teas. <3PonyBoy
- Hmm. I need more data before chiming in. This is a delicate situation . I'm glad she's out there, tho********
- @pony i guess i find the great irony in that the "great america" the right always speaks of was formed from 90% tax rates (eisenhower)colin_s
- and still subsequently high rates until reagan came along - the wealth that accumulated to a few during his era was off the backs of the middle classcolin_s
- If that sits right in your heart (to snake that much earned money from any one person) then run w/it. I personally find it disgusting that anyone's income be...PonyBoy
- ...pilfered at anything close to that rate. It IS 'theft'... let's not dick around w/words. I know a number millionaires that do NOT abuse workers (or don't...PonyBoy
- ... have any to abuse)... and most certainly do NOT use public resources to point they should be taxed at such a rate.PonyBoy
- Notice AOC is being snubbed by the Democrat old guard kaball, but you know she's gonna crash that party as well... Trump is right, she's got energy.robotron3k
- I just saw an excerpt of her interview with Anderson Cooper, holy fuk she slashes and burns with her words. G'luck with that...robotron3k
- she has a "cum laude" degree in international relations and economics. She's more formally qualified than most of Trump's cabinet.lowimpakt
- College is not experience... it may be education focused on one’s ideals but it isn’t shit for real world experience.PonyBoy
- It’s a good foundation for that experience and the experience she ha about to have.monospaced
- I prefer old white men to decide...LOL!********
- isn't it just the income over and above the top rate that gets taxed at the top rate - rather than your entire income?Fax_Benson
- it's not like 70% tax rate leaves you with 30% of your income. If the top rate is $5m, you get taxed top rate on anything over $5mFax_Benson
- I think you should avoid taxing income as far as possible and focus on static wealth - piles of cash that just sit there contributing nothingFax_Benson
- if people are earning so much they can't spend it, may as well tax it to fuck.Fax_Benson
- piles of cash don't contribute nothing ... it accumulates interest and/or dividends, and can support lifestyles alonemonospaced
- PonyPony, "qualified" means "officially recognized as being trained to perform a particular job; certified."lowimpakt
- the tax rate she proposed is 70% above $10m, and nobody needs that.colin_s
- ifw the green new deal. lets goBrokenHD
- Hmmm..********
- Young Marx was a babe let's do it.********
- a piece of paper is not experience, low lowPonyBoy
- I didn't say it was experience, I said qualified. They are different thingslowimpakt
- i don't know Ocasio's agenda but if we are taxing high carbon footprints and putting that into green infrastructure then thats been my way to go for awhile now.********
- take from the green, give to the green. its balanced********
- She said run train? Next Palin coming up...********
- I wouldn't be surprised if she became exploited as a distraction and eventually discarded. Lets see what happens********
- I still can't believe she said that. What a knob!!********
- robotron3k-1
I'm liking Tulsi in 2020, she a hot, a surfer, and knows how to handle a gun... She's pretty badass.
"I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week," the Hawaii Democrat told CNN's Van Jones during an interview slated to air at 7 p.m. Saturday on CNN's "The Van Jones Show."
Gabbard, an Iraq War veteran, currently serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. She is the first American Samoan and the first Hindu member of Congress.
- allthethings6
- Born Miserable @bornmiserable
replaced Fox News chyrons with "look at this dumb motherfucker right here" and they all makeallthethings - more sense now.allthethings
- the wall is far more dumb than the wheel, but both are not nearly as dumb as trump´s administration.neverscared
- Born Miserable @bornmiserable
- Gnash-2
- You do realize that account is in no way at all associated with the Mossad, right?monospaced
- ^ Of coarse, it’s right in their profileGnash
- cool, just checkingmonospaced
- zarkonite1
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/14/…
"US trade deficit with China grows to a record and it's likely even worse than the data show"
LOL, the best part is that China's trade surplus actually shrank with almost everyone except the US. #winning
- #TrumptardsUnite!
#MAGAutopian - Who is laughing at us NOW?!?! #MAGAmathinc
- It has to do with a strong US economy and 477,000 jobs that have been created since Dems has been kicked out of office.robotron3k
- Doesn't matter what the reasons are, Trump is still failing with his little trade war cuz he won't listen to any competent advisors.zarkonite
- #TrumptardsUnite!
- drgs0
Today is January 14, 2019. Donald Trump is still alive.
- What went wrong?monospaced
- Strongest Presidente that ever lived.PhanLo
- I heard Trump will be fast tracking H1-B Visas to 1000s of single Eastern European women to win over the pro-immigrant Dems...!!!robotron3k
- "Pro-immigrant dems" don't need imported women like you and your stock photo polish girlfriend. We fuck.mathinc
- Silence millennial.robotron3k
- nothing terrifies and intimidates robo more than the idea of being surrounded by thousands of millenial european womenmonospaced
