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I am beginning to like her...
- What is her QBN username?monospaced
- ^ i wouldn't be surprised at allrenderedred
- She's a Latina Lucille Ballrobotron3k
- omg yescolin_s
- allthethings2
Oops. The uncropped image.
- robotron3k-9
Sen. Kamala Harris has joined the crowded field of Democrats running for president in 2020.
“I love my country. I love my country,” Harris of California said on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Monday. “This is a moment in time when I feel a sense of responsibility to stand up and fight.”
- porker of the year?monospaced
- Kamilla started politics the old fashion way, sleeping with the SF Mayor Willie Brown, so she's got talent...robotron3k
- Love my country but government agencies doing their jobs are KKK and nazis and she is gonna save us ALL!Boz
- no to policecolin_s
- I'd recommend she change her rhetoric from "fighter" to something more positive, like "leader".see_bee
- allthethings4
- crazy hey?nbq
- The vile Black Israelites are in trouble now...robotron3k
- school kids that were shipped in to protest against women having bodily autonomy and control over their reproductive choices.lowimpakt
- Those little fuckers can fuck right off even before mocking an elderly man.lowimpakt
- Watch him not even be Native American nor a Vet...robotron3k
- so I guess being utter racist, bigoted cunts to a senior citizen is okay if he's not native or a vet? jesus, you're one sick fuck, robomonospaced
- This is as intellectually dishonest as it gets...PonyBoy
- nobody was a racist, bigoted cunt to any old man, mono... that black hebrew twat was racist as fuck then the old man jammed himself into those kids...PonyBoy
- ... or are you still ignorant to the actual facts? Those KIDS (they're KIDS, mono) didn't do a fucking thing but wait for their bus.PonyBoy
- https://www.youtube.…PonyBoy
- there are more videos out there showing these kids didn't do shit but stand where they were already standing and sit and sing school fight songs...PonyBoy
- ... to pass the time while waiting on their bus. That black hebrew clown was foul as fuck... started a load of shit. The Native CLOWN jammed himself into the...PonyBoy
- mess. The black dude and the native american (not some white CHILD) started this shit w/ a bunch of KIDS. KIDS, mono... on a school trip.PonyBoy
- "being utter racist, bigoted cunts to a senior citizen is okay"
... seriously... you're still saying this THIS MORNING even though you know better?!PonyBoy - triggered much?monospaced
- I was responding to robo, who was remarking about how this guy probably wasn't a vet or a native, as if that were a factor in the first place.monospaced
- I don't know what the fuck you're on a bout with the whole "this morning" thing and "you know better" stuff ,though. I don't watch the news.monospaced
- If you don't watch then why are you commenting, mono? You lack reference and look like an idiot.PonyBoy
- Those kids weren't racist... at all. The native prick jammed himself into those kids after some black hebrew racist twat started-in on a bunch of KIDS waiting..PonyBoy
- ... for their bus.
You're now up to date. :)PonyBoy - mmmm hmmmmmonospaced
- Boz-16
And you worry how we are going to pay for stuff?!
- robotron3k
- I sure can't think of any other 30 second videos this week that don't give the full context... thanks for this informative contribution to discourseT-Dawg
- she said that the world will end in 12 years because of climate change and that we shouldn't worry how to pay for anything. This chick is insane.Boz
- thank goodness she's not presidentmonospaced
- wouldn't want a president that made up lies like this would we ... oh, wait, that's what we havemonospaced
- not a great phrase but the 12 year timeframe was given by the world's leading climate scientists as the time left to prevent the worst effects of climate changelowimpakt
- I don't believe she believes the world will "end" in 12 years either.monospaced
- Let's build a wall to prevent this!nbq
- Imagine literally supporting Trump and then calling someone else stupid ;Dyuekit
- seriouslymonospaced
- Same BS Al Gore spewed... according to him we should all already be dead. She also thinks it’s ‘immoral’ that we have a system where billiomaires can exist.PonyBoy
- *billionairesPonyBoy
- billionaires may be a function of an economic system that has income inequality designed in. It could be argued that such as system is not morally justifiedlowimpakt
- Or perhaps billionaires exist because they created a method / service / product that has changed shit and they're reaping the benefits of their ingenuity?PonyBoy
- She's not going to fuck you, Boz.BonSeff
- Or perhaps billionaires exist because our political system makes politicians reliant on $, and those legislators in tilt the tables of society in their favor?mathinc
- Tickle-down economics, low taxes on upper incomes, for example.mathinc
- she has a nice body though I won't lie. That dancing video is sexy ;)Boz
- math... do the math :) you say 'low taxes' on upper incomes... do you realize the % of the overall nut those lower taxes on higher incomes actually pays?PonyBoy
- check this: https://taxfoundatio…PonyBoy
- "In 2014, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.3 percent of all individual income taxes while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.7 percent."PonyBoy
- The 'rich' are already paying the lion's share... what more would you like? Are you for bumping the % on the wealthy in upwards of 70+%?PonyBoy
- ... cuz I can't understand why we'd 'penalize' folks for being successful even when they already payout the majority in taxes.PonyBoy
- ok, "entrepreneurs" pay the bulk of tax due to accumulated wealth while their employees have to use food stamps and other forms of corporate welfarelowimpakt
- or you have a greater tax income due to a greater amount of people have economic power and reduced inequalitylowimpakt
- most legitimate economic organisations know that inequality is harmful to society and the economy https://www.weforum.…lowimpakt
- http://www.oecd.org/… & https://www.worldban…lowimpakt
- https://www.mckinsey…lowimpakt
- there isn't a single fucking startup and entrepreneur who has their employees on food stamps. That's just a bunch of horseshit.Boz
- there's not too many startup billionaires but some Amazon employees rely on food stamps https://www.wired.co…lowimpakt
- In the UK, taxpayers pay £11 billion a year to fund tax credits so that that underpaid employees in companies that make £billion + pre-tax profits can survive.lowimpakt
- +1 lowimpakt also including some nurses in the NHS now reliant on food banks.fadein11
- no offense... but I don't give a shit about the UK in this conversation... we're not the same countries and our populations don't even compare in sizePonyBoy
- no offence... not caring about what happens in other countries is often a symptom of nativist ignorance.lowimpakt
- We're talking about what AO-C wants to do to the States... stay on topic.PonyBoy
- "The world will end in 12 years" is a good counter to "there is no such thing as climate change". She represents a natural response to the insanities that havezarkonite
- been coming out the GOP clan for a while now. Just like the tea party and freedom caucus' MO of destroying the government at all cost created this wave of ultrazarkonite
- left-wing socialists.zarkonite
- Gore told us something similar... the ices caps were to be melted by 2014... so fearmongering w/out sound proof seems to run in the 'family'PonyBoy
- "stay on topic" did you miss the bit about the WORLD ending. The statement that this whole thread is about?lowimpakt
- like... omg- the world like- is like- going to end in 12 years... and like this is like... our world II... and like...like- I need 70% of your money to save youPonyBoy
- fuck OFF, with nonsense, low... fuck right offPonyBoy
- with *that nonsense
:)PonyBoy - "this wave of ultra left-wing socialists"
wow - some of you guys need recalibrating.fadein11 - http://www.51allout.…lowimpakt
- it's amazing how much attention she gets. look how much uproar 1, just 1, young congresswoman can rile up from people.inteliboy
- also, she says very normal, very boring stuff. though the USA is so far right leaning she's some how in the ultra left. bizarre.inteliboy
- fadein11: pls explain? 70% tax rate is not ultra left-wing socialist? the new dems are not all (almost) left leaning?zarkonite
- "Ocasio-Cortez attended Yorktown High School, graduating in 2007, where she won second prize in the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with ayuekit
- microbiology research project on the effect of antioxidants on C. elegans' lifespan. As a result, the International Astronomical Union named a smallyuekit
- asteroid after her: 23238 Ocasio-Cortez."yuekit
- ^ From her Wiki page. How many of you nitpickers had asteroids named after you, huh?yuekit
- I asteroid can destroy the world, yuekitty... :PPonyBoy
- @zarkonite - it's 70% on earnings over a very high threshold, noones gonna lose 70% of their earnings. It's quite commonplace. I wouldn't call it 'ultra left-fadein11
- wing socialism' nope. The rich still remain obscenely wealthy yet they get to do something useful with their unused coffers. ha.fadein11
- zarkonite, from 1935 -1980 the US top tax rate was above 70% a& up to 92% during WW2. You weren't a socialist state then so it does not make you one nowlowimpakt
- the middle class have taken a real battering over the last 30 years, yet people are worried about the super rich, just doesn't add up (excuse the pun).fadein11
- She wants to raise taxes to enable social measures, historically the US has used those high top end tax rates to pay down debt.zarkonite
- Currently the federal government takes in $3.8trillion dollars in revenue. If they can't find the money they need in there, they simply don't have the politicalzarkonite
- courage to trim programs and optimize how they spend.zarkonite
- Lolfadein11
- PhanLo3
Throwback Drew Friedman.
- ********1
- ********1
- lowimpakt2
History of Tax Rates: 1913 – 2019
an anyone tell at which point through all the decades when the top rate of tax was above 70% (1935-1980) was the US a ultra left-wing socialist state?
- High taxation isn’t inherently socialist, what you spend it is. Based on the years indicated I would guess they were buying lots of tanks and missiles.Gnash
- some of you act like temporarily embarrassed millionaires. stop complaining about a high marginal tax rate on the rich, it won't affect you!dorf
- Mostly recovering from WW2robotron3k
- Exactly to this graph. Taxing the rich didn't affect them at ALL and wouldn't today. With the correct budgeting process a shit ton of problems could be solvedcolin_s
- They weren't, they had wars to pay for. Currently AOC is saying lets raise taxes for the hell of it. A better idea would be to figure out where all the money iszarkonite
- going since the budget is $3.8trillion. I mean how the fuck can you not afford everything you want for that kind of money??zarkonite
- if you can choose to use tax to fight wars you can choose to use tax to look after your citizens health and economic security.lowimpakt
- not to mention that nobody actually paid those taxes with loopholes everywhere. And tax burden was split more even. Today 10% of people pays 90% of the taxes.Boz
- they need to kill all loopholes, set a flat tax for EVERYONE and you'll see how quickly when you have to give your own money people change their minds.Boz
- it's easy to be all righteous and moral when you are giving away other people's money.Boz
- this argument is 80 years old and nobody ever won it.Fax_Benson
- A flat tax rate is definitely the fairest solution.zarkonite
- until it isn'tFax_Benson
- discretionary spending of the budget is over 50% on the military so uh we could start therecolin_s
- The rich paying the majority of taxes is exactly the result you would expect in a world where the rich have almost all the money.yuekit
- allthethings2
- Sad the guy wasn't a Vietnam Vet and he's probably not an American Indian...robotron3k
- Shut the fuck upscruffics
- sarahfailin5
Mitch McConnell smoked weed and now he's gone full lefty- lolKrassy
- hahahahaha!********
- hahahahaaaBoz
- https://pbs.twimg.co…zaq
- BonSeff1
Funny to hear these guys are in the news again. They used to gather outside my window on saturdays when i lived downtown. had to listen to these motherfuckers for hours.
- They're proper donuts.PhanLo
- Those preaching brothers are yoked, I see them all the time in NYC, there was a reason the students and Indian got away from them, don't mess with them.robotron3k
- Not any dafter than Mormons.PhanLo
- yuekit2
Regarding tax rates, saw this article the other day (based on a report by Oxfam) that has some eye popping statistics
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2…
"The world's 26 richest people own the same wealth as the poorest half of humanity"
"Billionaires around the world saw their combined fortunes grow by $2.5bn a day, while the 3.8 billion people at the bottom of the scale saw their wealth decline by 11 percent in 2018"
"The world's richest man, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, saw his fortune increase to $112bn last year. Just one percent of his wealth was the equivalent to the entire health budget of Ethiopia, a country of 105 million people."
"Getting the world's richest one percent to pay just 0.5 percent extra tax on their wealth could raise more money than it would cost to educate the 262 million children out of school, and provide life-saving healthcare for 3.3 million people."
Now obviously actually implementing a wealth tax would be difficult esp globally...but I'm curious what the argument is for those of you who feel so strongly that the rich should not be taxed any more.
Is there a good moral argument against taxing the ultra wealthy slightly more if you could prevent 3 million deaths per year?
- it used to be a centrist, bi-partisan idea. though the mega rich got their claws into government.inteliboy
- and apparently its this kind of thinking that is 'cognitive dissonance' according to right wing nut jobs. yeah ok.inteliboy
- Lol World Economic Forum in the Swiss City of Davos, perhaps they should hold their next Forum in Somalia and be the first to give...?robotron3k
- The article says they released the report on the same day as the Davos forum to try to highlight these issues...your point is what exactly?yuekit
- Oxfam (the charity) is not the same thing as the people at Davos, in case that wasn't clear lolyuekit
- Better to invest in Sprinters.instrmntl
- yukit, I'm curious to hear ur opinion on NY dems, taxing the shit out everyone but giving tax breaks to Amazon. I'm genuinely interested to hear your thoughts.Boz
- Boz I'm against it. Anything else?yuekit
- I'm more interested to hear you conservatives on here defend not taxing Zuckerberg or Bezos 0.5% more in order to prevent a literal Holocaust's worth of deathsyuekit
- every couple years. Instead of bringing up some irrelevant topic. Does the cost-benefit ratio of taxing the rich ever reach the point where you'd be in favor ofyuekit
- it? Because seems to me we've already reached a pretty ridiculous point when 26 people have the same as 3.8 billion.yuekit
- I'm not really conservative, not really religious, I agree with some of their stuff but on others probably more libertarian if I'm honest. I was braindeadBoz
- raving and raging liberal through my 20s and 30s and was probably even worse than most on here. But then I actually opened my eyes.Boz
- On a question of taxes. I don't think anyone should be taxed more because they make more money really. I'm not jealous at wealthier and rich people.Boz
- I actually draw lessons and inspiration out of it to be better. I don't need their money, and I certainly don't want other people taking my moneyBoz
- I asked you about NY because it's clearly a hypocrisy from dems. And I already said, everyone should be taxed the same. Fixed tax and done.Boz
- and also, even if you taxed the rich 100% you couldn't cover any of the shit leftists are peddling because 50% of this country doesn't pay any taxes.Boz
- That argument sounds good in the abstract, but if millions of lives could be saved...or its holding back progress of society as a whole...you're still againstyuekit
- And second, I've seen that scenario play out when I lived in communism and then socialism and what it does and things don't get better. They get actually worseBoz
- I'll venture a guess that you haven't really experienced that in your life ever thus your vehemently defending it.Boz
- it, really?? I'm in favor of freedom, libertarianism etc as much as possible, but you have to be practical at some point.yuekit
- How does being in favor of slightly higher taxes on the rich within a free market system equate to communism in your mind?yuekit
- One thing I have noticed, people who grew up in communist country often overreact by going all the way to the other extreme.yuekit
- Look at the actual numbers and I think it's totally justifiable. Not increased income tax maybe but a tax on wealth is where the money is.yuekit
- My 'moral' argument: They're already being taxed for Millions... many of you find it immoral they have that much money but no moral issues taking it from them..PonyBoy
- ... that makes you hypocrites and far worse than them. The jealousy / whining I've been reading in these threads lately is strange. So many folks hate success..PonyBoy
- ... but thievery / demanding what someone else earned be turned over to you is just fine. Weirdos.PonyBoy
- And telling yourselves that you're going to snake juuust a 'little more' from them (cuz they won't feel it!) would change the world is naive at best.PonyBoy
- I don’t know. My parents grew up in communism and always say they would gladly go back. What is happening now is at least just as fuckedscruffics
- That's fucking capitalism for you...Gawd Bless Murica!utopian
- It has nothing at all to do with jealousy...as if I or anyone else gives a shit about that. But how to make the best use of resources that are available.yuekit
- Keep in mind this is completely unprecedented in terms of one guy having 100 times the budget of an entire country...just because he created a websiteyuekit
- and happened to be in the right place at the right time.yuekit
- If you think it's OK for people to die so that Bezos has one more helipad fair enough I guess. I would call that an extremist viewpoint.yuekit
- Did you just say people are dying because Bezos has helipads? I would like for you to attempt to back that up. :-/PonyBoy
- ... and there's no way in hell that's my point of view... where'd you come up w/that nonsense, ukitty?? <3PonyBoy
- haha cmon it's a bit of hyperbole to make a point. So you're OK with taxing the rich as long as it helps people? Or you're 100% opposed no matter what?yuekit
- Saying the public takes "enough" of their money doesn't make sense to me when 26 people have the same wealth as 3.8 billion.yuekit
- I'm fine w/taxing folks in a fair manner based on equal needs and overall usage of public '_insert_service_her... We all get taxed on just about...PonyBoy
- ... everything we purchase. We pay taxes on the things we already own... and we pay taxes simply because we earn. I believe in all those taxes...PonyBoy
- Believe me I'm against taxes as much as possible...but you have to keep in mind the aggregation effect of modern capitalism where due to pure luck one guy canyuekit
- ... I have no issue w/them other than the income tax being setup so only a certain group of folks are paying for '_insert_service_her... but rarely...PonyBoy
- end up with the wealth an entire country. Sure let's lower personal tax, corporate tax etc. but I think a wealth tax should be considered.yuekit
- ... use '_insert_service_ here_' as those who don't even come close to paying the same in income (if any) do utilize those services.PonyBoy
- If a dude buys a helicopter or a helipad is installed they pay out the sphincter in permits / taxes / fees... etc.PonyBoy
- I do not believe in judging a person because they're wealthy. Most folks who are wealthy are not so because they were in 'the right place at the right time'...PonyBoy
- ... they did it because they were fucking smart and resourceful... I get tired of that reality always being swiped from the conversation and instead...PonyBoy
- ...villainizing those whom are smarter / far more creative / inventive than the rest of us. Many of them have changed our lives forever...don't penalize that!PonyBoy
- I think the statistics actually show the exact opposite...most people who are wealthy got that way because they inherited wealth from their parents or had theyuekit
- right connections. Donald Trump being a prime example...he is a "billionaire" but inherited $400 million from his dad including outright tax fraud etcyuekit
- https://www.nytimes.…yuekit
- Yep... and a lot of 'rags to riches' guys I work for / with are millionaires that had investors toss millions their way to get started...PonyBoy
- Let's be honest your average CEO (as well as your average politician) is probably a psychopath. Some of them like Steve Jobs manage to do some good but theyuekit
- ... that's a huge part of the game. Thing is Trump is different (I have to give credit where it is due). He took his inheritance and put it work and was...PonyBoy
- vast majority are just assholes like Zuckerberg calling their own customers "dumb fucks." Why idolize or protect those people? What's the point?yuekit
- ... quite successful. You said yourself he's a billionaire now. His name is well-known around the world so you can't argue the guy didn't do some...PonyBoy
- ... (if not a lot) of things 'right'. I see no need to take most of that back just because he was successful in reinvesting his wealth.PonyBoy
- I contract for a number of Agencies and have a couple of nearly fulltime contracts... every person hiring me is a millionaire a few times over...PonyBoy
- ... they ALL pay me well... I wouldn't have my own business and damn near a full time gig w/out them. You attack them... you attack me.PonyBoy
- ... you're attacking yourself. :)
That is... unless you prefer socialism / communism where your opportunity to do what 'you want' is minimized.PonyBoy - It's actually not that notable to be a millionaire these days. I'm talking about people at the extreme utter end of the spectrum.yuekit
- "Let's be honest your average CEO (as well as your average politician) is probably a psychopath." ummm—is there a study I missed? :D (for real—if so—share!!)PonyBoy
- AO-C and friends wish to tax folks who make $10M and over @ 70%.PonyBoy
- Sure but only for income earned above $10 million...is that so unreasonable?yuekit
- I have a fear here... it's uncorroborated mind you so you can call me out for being a scared lil pussy... ;) —you'd be right— but I 'fear' this is merely step 1PonyBoy
- ... and if 'step 1' is to tax someone 70% of their income leaving them w/3M instead of 10... then why not bump it to 80%? They'd still have 2M.PonyBoy
- You're misunderstanding how marginal tax rates work. If you tax income above $10M at 70% and they earn $11M they would still have $10.3 million.yuekit
- And that's putting aside all the loopholes, shelters etc people with that much money would actually use...which is why a wealth tax would probably work better.yuekit
- ... which means if I only made 2M... technically I'm taxed 20-22% meaning I only made about 400K more than the guy who made 10M. That's... Bunk.PonyBoy
- fuck... she did say it was marginal... AND I'm learning myself as I'm reading outside of here that there were only 16K folks that made over 10M in 2016...PonyBoy
- ... so I'm going to take HALF a step back here and humbly admit my numbers are off re: 10M+ taxes. <3 Again... I fear this is the start...PonyBoy
- ... if we start @ 70% we've already taken our pants off. That number regardless if it's marginal then is ridiculous.PonyBoy
- And mind you... I'm all for cutting some shit conservatives / pubs can't live w/out... I'm disgusted by war / aggressive action overseas in any way...PonyBoy
- ... and I'd love to see what we paid from here stay here as much as possible (but I'm not against helping our neighbors if they need it).PonyBoy
- ... just sick of being told it's immoral to be successful or well-off (even if daddy gave you the money... so fucking what?)PonyBoy
- (and no... daddy didn't gimmie shit) <3PonyBoy
- reading this epic thread, it's interesting how fast you go to the extreme view point pony.inteliboy
- but thats socialisim! ur a Communist derp derp! is thrown around by the right as much as "your a racist" by the sjw left. such a joke.inteliboy
- inteliboy7
boz "But then I actually opened my eyes."
aka - "oh, I was like you, but now I am so much smarter than you"
far out. smug enough?
- Boz is an example for all people that want to go to the US and have a better life. leave him alone!********
- People of the second caravan are using Boz's image cause he's their inspiration. Everywhere there's t-shirts and necklaces with his image.********
- they call him Santo Boz or Alpha Boz********
- I think he has more support now then when he was in the Smiths.********
- he opened his eyes and he's leading his people to open their eyes to.********
- besides everybody know hitting the gym makes you smarter.********
- yes he was like us once, a mere common mortal but now he has more horsepower between his legs than all other people combined.********
- fuck you inteliboy, go back to your intel office. we run other kind of chips here.********
- you should reflect on why and how you deduce that from what i wrote when nothing of sorts was said.Boz
- you know what's a real eye opener? coke. or mdma. or a lego piece on the floor.********
- lolinteliboy
- Boz is an example for all people that want to go to the US and have a better life. leave him alone!
- ********3
You know what I really find incredible about US politics?
That someone defines Hillary Clinton as being Left Wing...That must be a fucking joke.
Or just plain and stupid ignorance.But when I read what people write about Socialism and by their own words I understand that they can not even define it, understand and by extent criticize it...and then just say Stalin bad....
Well, I don't see people in the left playing the Hitler card so often like the other way around.
But maybe that's just my perception.Any way, the working class struggle in the US is pretty well documented and I don't see how people who got their rights from this struggle and how left wing parties had a major role in it see being left a bad thing from the start.
It's just fucking ridiculous, as like when did right wing parties stand by the side of workers except when it is to point finger to emigrants and say:
"They took our jerbs!"
I think it's really important to separate Socialism from what guys like Stalin did, seriously.
My father was a hardcore communist but still he could differentiate Reagan from Hitler and also to explain why despite hating Reagan.
I guess the intellectual capacity nowadays when there's so much access to information incredible low.
And the power of argumentation is that of a Kindergarten playground, also among politicians.
I can not imagine the Republican Party 30 years ago support and stand by what's happening now.
And I never liked them but damn people nowadays do anything but anything to be on top, keep power and fill their pockets.
And folks support them...wow!
In the other hand Democrats are so fucking elitist and disconnected to reality.
I happy that in the US there's people like Bernie or this young lady kicking the white macho balls.
Finally there's someone really left wing in the US politics at that level in like maybe almost a century.
But people are scared of Stalin...LOL!
Ridiculous!
When minorities stand by the oppressor then it's over.
And to think they called Obama a socialist because of universal health care...fucking laughable!Basic human rights, how can people stand against it?
Seriously the US needs a massive cure and set its priorities right.
People first!And by people I mean people of the World.
And Earth.That should come first.
Not America, not Walls, not Money, not Political Parties...
- ********1
And this MAGA bullshit...
America is a fucking continent, it's so typical (US) American to say shit like that.
White people are really sickening...
Make America Great Again would actually mean one continent and no borders.
Because America is not great at all, it could be great if the US would allow it.
- Semantics, though. Everyone knows when you're on another continent "America" means something different than when you're in the states.nb
- This pretty much applies to everyone, not just white people, btw.nb
- I know nb but who's the ruling class that lets it being perpetuated?********
- LOL the "ruling" class doesn't determine colloquial language.nb
- Think of it this way: imagine the so-called "ruling class" trying to switch everyone to say "the states" for short instead of "America". Could they? No.nb
- you are sort of right but you are forgetting one thing, there's a reason why it's not called "the united"********
- LOL! Sorry I was a bit venting you know, sometimes one loses it out of despair...I'm a normal person, I'm not a Republican.********
- or Democrat.********
- MLB World Series, only played in north americalowimpakt
- Sorry mate but America is not a continent. It's North America, Central America and South America.zarkonite
- As for calling it America, it's grammatically correct. If someone is from the Democratic Republic of Congo, they're Congolese. The United States of America iszarkonite
- therefor full of Americans.zarkonite
- here: https://en.wikipedia…. It's always noted as the Americas, not America, when referring to the continents.zarkonite
- Right, plus there's proper naming convention and then colloquial phrasing which is sometimes different and often widely understood within your areanb
- hey zarko, I know it's north, central and south america and therefore americas. that makes it even absurd that with three americas there's only********
- one group calling thenselves americans. i think it has more to do with the fact that "americans" thinking they're the centre of the world.********
- the congo comp I don't think it's the best though I understand what you mean. there's better examples.********
- "one group calling themselves Americans" -- Uh, yeah, they're the only country with America in the countries name, right?nb
- I think you're letting your political view (or your anger) cloud your sense of basic reasoning.nb
- *country'snb
- and which political view is mine? define basic reasoning. hehehe...forget it.********
- nb0
Imagine falling in love with drawing as a kid, then going to art school, graduating, eventually choosing a career in art, only to eventually discover that you will make your living by spewing hate through your art.
Ben Garrison's "art" consistently and singularly shows the worst side of his personality. His worst instincts speak the loudest and garner him the most respect.
From the outsider perspective, it's a fucking depressing life.
- It's very, very lazy to attack the man whilst condensing and brushing aside his satire as 'hate'. You are as much a part of the problem you perceive as he is.Morning_star
- Oh really. I'm "as much" a part of the problem as Ben Garrison? Good grief.nb
- Yes.Morning_star
- Also, it's amazing you use the word "attack".... that my post qualifies as your definition of an "attack" on him.nb
- Bunch of snowflakes on the right, the slightest criticism (not even directed toward the guy) and you accuse me of attacking. hahaha ;)nb
- What would you call it then?Morning_star
- Dude, google the definition of attack.nb
- Ok..."criticize or oppose fiercely and publicly". What you wrote is an attack.Morning_star
- Oh, how fierce of me.nb
- Not that it matters. My issue is, is that you offer no solution, no counter argument, no satirical cartoon in opposition. Happy to hide in the crowd.Morning_star
- Bunch of crybabies.nb
- Ditto.Morning_star
- He has to draw his own cartoon in order to criticize someone?yuekit
- it's satire for idiots. it's basically the same joke over and over again targeted at the same issue. obsessively moronic shit.lowimpakt
- What is evident Garrison offers cheap cartoons for the echo chambers and #maga sheeple. I agree with nb he offers a poor version of himselfSalarrue
- No, not at all. But to criticise someones life choices instead of the politics Garrison promotes is valueless and just adds to cacophony of noise emanating...Morning_star
- ...from the concerned masses.Morning_star
- Garrisons satire is lowest common denominator, unsophisticated, repetitive, arguably racist, homophobic and sexist. ...and you focus on his life choice. FFS.Morning_star
- I mean he's a public figure who puts his work out there for criticism...and his cartoons are disturbingly propagandistic.yuekit
- But ultimately it's more pathetically funny than anything else IMO.yuekit
- Yep. So criticise the politics.Morning_star
- Wait, it's just satire? I really got the impression Garrison was front line for the Trump agenda with his work.monospaced
- I really just pity him. Then again, who's to say? Maybe it's better to be a shill artist than a non-artist. Still, depressing.nb
- I'd hardly call his illustrations homophobic. More like homo erotic. We get it, Ben. You are horny for Trump.BonSeff
- "criticize the politics" Give me a break, his whole shtick is throwing out red meat for morons.BonSeff
- You don't think that there is a political aspect to this?...this is the politics thread...he's a political cartoonist.Morning_star
- his point is, we are criticizing the politics, saying that they are a schtick and pandering to the lowest members of that audience, with bigoted memesmonospaced
- the opinion on this, NOT an attack, is that it's a shame to end up like this as someone who likely trained as a real artistmonospaced
- I can hop over to the Donald Trump thread and pull quotes from ponyboy and boz at random and pair them up with a Branco or Garrison cartoon.BonSeff
