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- PonyBoy-7
- This guy made South Bend great again @1:40:04 lol wonder who's gonna fall for his b.s. elitism??? He's like a whiter Obama.robotron3k
- elitism? https://www.arch2o.c…inteliboy
- what is BS elitism?monospaced
- God, Robo. U fucking tool.tank02
- Anyone interested in a chrome plugin that ignores anything Robo posts and comments?err
- I see the liberals here don't like when people have alternate opinions.robotron3k
- Look who’s talking.monospaced
- He can say whatever he wants I dont have to listen :-) It's like the first time I got a spam filter!err
- Don't let pixels throw you out of your frame guys...robotron3k
- zarkonite3
https://www.apnews.com/cfbdab50d…
"Study: Fox News is obsessed with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
A study found that the New York City Democrat was mentioned 3,181 times on Fox News Channel and its sister Fox Business Network during the six-week period of Feb. 25 to April 7, or just under 76 times a day. Not a day went by when she wasn’t spoken about on Fox."
AOC derangement syndrome is real.
- ya, the right is obsessed....
https://pbs.twimg.co…Gnash - they are ... they really aremonospaced
- No its followng trends and engineering news to what gets clicks. MSM news is about the entertainment value********
- adweek ran incredible ratings on first trump debate. ratings, not substance. Than you look at nytimes profits post trump and see and wonder where there********
- interest lies. you begin to see "News" more for its media and entertainment than journalism. AOC is great new snooki.********
- that can be both entertainment and "news"********
- ya, the right is obsessed....
- whatthefunk0
- the American left is just as retarded. weren't the democrats responsible for Jim Crow laws?_niko
- @_niko, this is about the "right," regardless of party or centurymonospaced
- aka, the democrats back then were the conservative right, so absolutely no relation to today, and shouldn't be used as onemonospaced
- ah gotcha._niko
- Totally forgot Muslims.ArmandoEstrada
- didn't the right care about 9/11?Gnash
- ha ha well anyone with any history knowledge can see this for hyperbole. Going back to indians it wasn't even right vs left debate considering neither existed********
- perhaps images like this do more harm for the "left" they represent. Or perhaps that is the plan of the russian trolls! Over the top nonsense to try and get********
- emo reaction and strengthen divides based on nonsense... or just random ignorance and flag flying to attract like minds.********
- Both left and right existed before this country was founded.monospaced
- ironically, the left were the christiansGnash
- Protestants maybe? Were Catholics the right? I know it's not as simple as that, but sure :)monospaced
- those are all christiansGnash
- well, yeah, but at the time of the country's founding, the was a massive divide between catholics and protestants ... enouhg to form a new country :)monospaced
- If, for you, the "left" was all christians, who do you place as the "right" back then?monospaced
- the fucking frenchGnash
- Hahaha. Cmon. I figured left and right were always parts of the same nation or group by definition.monospaced
- hell liberalism doesn't mean what it meant in the 30s and definition has been quite twisted. as far as church goes they have more in sync********
- with todays democratic party. They were all about the collectivism and pushing same issues, they only disagree on who is leading. if democrats embraced the********
- church for power we'd be fucked. thank god idiots on both sides of the fence********
- but its funny to trace definitions of parties and look at policy over time. you tend to see this pole reversal effect********
- "if democrats embraced the church for power we'd be fucked." Please elaborate.monospaced
- the far left already behaves like a religionGnash
- you could say that about any extreme group, easilymonospaced
- the left are particularly adept at using the mechanisms of denunciation and punishment used by religious inquisitors for heresies against The doctrineGnash
- I feel like you've gone completely off topic with this :)monospaced
- I can barely remember my what I had for breakfast, maintaining a focused train of thought is near impossibleGnash
- democratic policy tries to promise everything a religion does as far as security as long as you follow along. the only difference is you follow actual people********
- vs the priests and prophets devining knowledge. And instead of after life, more directed to this life. Same obvious tactics********
- Ever look at a faithful church goer and wonder how they got fooled they seem like a normal person. Than go home and cheer on something like GND********
- those people are actually quite similar. they're just culturally triggered to respond different to sets of stimuli. if you could combine them it would be strong********
- but for topic. image that means nothing. your russian meme shit. an idea of american right only exists right now, not the past because no such party********
- existed under the name. And just terrible commentary since it has OMG russians... jsut a trademark example of social sharing********
- that people say had a russian influence.********
- maybe you will notice the trends and see what info is fodder, entertainment, or substance better.********
- "if democrats embraced the church for power we'd be fucked." Please elaborate.monospaced
- I just did. Could you elaborate on what you couldn't follow? Any clue on what confuses you?********
- Hopefully that ? doesn't stump you... if it does save time and don't go forward.********
- you're comparing the democratic party with religion (terribly), but you did not even start to touch on the idea of democrats embracing the church.monospaced
- Only one party "embraces the church" and that's the republican party. And yes, it's certainly "fucked" a lot of Americans in doing so. Dems are fighting that.monospaced
- Church has no place in government. One party seems to be confused about this and continues to push for its inclusion. Democrats aren't doing that.monospaced
- So once again, what do you mean by "if democrats embraced the church for power" ? The church has no power.monospaced
- If you intend to just repeat your schtick about politics resembling the moronic belief structure of religion, then save time and don't go forward. Derp.monospaced
- i said "if" they did. the only difference between christian/catholiscm and democrats p;atform is who they beleive to be the omnipotent ruler********
- a public servant or all powerful being. im just repeating myself now.********
- maybe you are unfamilair with collectivism morality? i dont understand what you are missing...********
- reps embrace church even though its more in line with democratic principles. Its always funny the hypocrisy in the parties embrace of things being really so********
- similar. dogmatic rule through faith or gov, is no different. principles rules on reason and logic are the difference********
- leftist claims of GND or FDR second bill of rights idea is dogmatic. its not based on reason. you can breakdown any and see it makes no sense********
- you see many dogmatic principles in church regarding social liberties. gays, birth control etc. its irrational to follow those as much as every one has a right********
- to say healthcare. jsut making shit up and declaring shit as rights or wrongs without any reasoning beside declaration. if the left could create an idea of a********
- false god or second coming, they could pull all the people from the right that are all about being ruled in a collective********
- theyre already their subjugated by faith the same as the faith left believers have in omnipotent democratically appointed rulers. just be the people like me********
- left. that just want to be free and live truthfully and honestly by principled reasoning********
- NONE of what you're rambling about even touches on a party embracing any religion. FFS, do you even read what you write?monospaced
- haha it all does. wether you see it or not is dependent upon your cognition and understanding. do you notice that you dont cite anything i said?********
- and depict why or how it doesn't seem involved. in educated circles that would be protocol at least. in walmart declarations of yours more fitting********
- based on my cognition and understanding!? dude, I run circles around you there. You didn't even TOUCH on "embracing religion"monospaced
- if you HAD, you would have specified a religion, and then talked about how they would embrace it for power. You didn't.monospaced
- you dont need to specify a religion when you see its base formula. which is collectivism and i explained plenty about power of such.********
- if you run circles around me perhaps you really understand the differences between ideal socialism and christianity? and can explain them********
- because im pretty sure thats where u stumble on what im talking about.i talk an explain connection and u fingers in ear and say no********
- or just try to suggest i haven't said anything. so its up to you now. fundamental differences of christianity vs socialism********
- id say let it be homework, but you dont have a textbook. gonna have to dig deep into yourself********
- ********-1
"Six couples who were found guilty of violating Islamic law based on a Sharia Court ruling undergo caning.
The male partner was sentenced to caning namely Edianto bin Abdul Hamid with a sentence of 23 lashes. Then, Rizki Kurniawan bin Alm Rusli Abdullah with a sentence of 20 lashes, Ria Zuelmi bin Zulkifli with a sentence of 25 lashes. As well as Julfikar M Yusuf with a sentence of 28 lashes, Surya bin Hamdani and Tarmizi bin Amiruddin were sentenced to 10 lashes each. While their female partner was whipped, Nurlaili binti Alainsyah, sentenced to 23 lashes, Rita Zahara binti Alm Bakhtiar was sentenced to 20 lashes. Then, Netty Herawati binti Mukhtar was sentenced to 25 lashes, Erlina binti Sipui with a sentence of 25 lashes. As well as Nutidawati bint M Yusuf and Yayang Maulida bint Zuwaini Oscar with 10 lashes each.
The whipping took place in the courtyard of the Lamgugop Mosque in the Syuhada Gampong, Syiah Kuala District, Banda Aceh, on Monday. The canings were witnessed by hundreds of people."
Indonesia, 2019 AD
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- this is not politicsBeeswax
- now that's a fresh and unique take on human rights questions buddy. I like it.********
- Boycott Balishapesalad
- They did stuff like that in the Scottish Highlands not too long ago. It's incredibly backwards. Sharia law is daft.PhanLo
- of course this is politics. indonesian law provides authority for aceh to implement shari'a lawGnash
- Aceh is the most conservative province of Indonesia. Interestingly Indonesia is the largest Muslim country and fairly moderate overall.yuekit
- spent a lot of time in jakarta as a kid. it is a wild place.inteliboy
- They were all caught vaping.utopian
- yuekit3
- Thought Sanders did a really good job here. After watching this I'm starting to think the "he's a commie" attacks against him the GOP seems to favor wouldyuekit
- ultimately backfire. Comes down to a very pragmatic choice about the cost of health care and other things.yuekit
- "pragmatic choice about cost" and what is that?********
- Would the pragmatic cost being to freeze current expenditures as percentage of GDP (higher than his go to countries) and opening funds to all but rationing as********
- need be. ignoring moral aspects of choosing who decides rationing... or is it more of gov officials (who probably have no experience of idea) dictate medical********
- caretakers wages. hell if you guarantee a 2X 15 minimum wage for surgeons maybe you could control costs, but probably wont have many good ones to choose from********
- its funny its always about the costs. thats common sense id think. and thats the last thing people talk about or get into.********
- It's always excuses from the other side. Nothing to offer, just complaining "but, but, we can't afford it!" and yet spending keeps going up and up...formed
- It'll come down to "do you want SS/MC/MD cut, education cut, taxes cut, but still balloon the debt" or do you want "healthcare, safe retirement, better ed,formed
- and have the same taxes"?formed
- The most important person is not Bernie, but who his Vice is. If he wins he will be almost 90 if he serves 2 terms...robotron3k
- He'll almost certainly outlive Trump.allthethings
- I'm watching guys, but he still deflects all questions.robotron3k
- He is too old to be president. I agree on that.monospaced
- Maybe he should dye his hair and get a fake tan like Trump.yuekit
- again denial of the cost. and even greater denial of gov policy that keeps driving spending and cost higher. face palm... no excuses just plain undeniable reaso********
- medicare is what somewhere between what 14-17% GDP. above other nations hovering around 10%. medicare covers 44 million people in a nation of around 350 millio********
- for the bandwagon sloganteers that want medicare for all (at our higher spending than other nations) im ok with. open the existing funding that was set for 44********
- mil to 350 mil and see what happens********
- a great lesson in reality of cost and expenditures. and maybe make people start to question well wait how do other countries do it. is it real********
- is there cost lower because of regulation, or is all R&D done in the US, copyright or even price and wage controls on hospitals... or is the care so basic and********
- most people think of it as a tax they don;t use and carry a secondary plan. that the 10% GDP really now only fulfills liek 20 million people needs with out********
- months of waiting. or hell repeat th shit some dumbshit politician says and promises you will never have to think about until you do.********
- the problem is always the ignorant majority that slowly decays democracies and even republics********
- what no one is touching the math? no one wants to burden themselves with the actual costs?********
- are you capable of saying anything in fewer than 12 posts?monospaced
- zarkonite4
https://www.theonion.com/fox-new…
"Fox News Debuts Premium Channel For 24-Hour Coverage Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez"
Sharing because I lol'd.
- Fax_Benson0
Bannon's helping fund and run a training school for populists in an Italian Monastery - with the backing of some in the Vatican who think the Pope is too liberal.
- there's the makings of a Bond film in here somewhereGnash
- ha, that Harnwell guy could definitely dream up a dastardly torture scenario.Fax_Benson
- his skin looks like if there are centipedes living inside it.neverscared
- Vladimir HarkonnenBluejam
- R_Kercz0
The Verge: "Andrew Yang is the candidate for the end of the world"
- allthethings0
Let's see, Barr produced a hastily written memo, and then answered questions about it, and then laid out exactly how he would redact the report...and now he has announced he'll hold a press conference tomorrow when he releases the redacted report. What will the press, who at that moment will not have seen the report, ask him? What is the point of this?
- ********-4
- ********-6
- Love the upvoting via alt accounts. Excellent use of your time.e-wo
- This is true he got a 400k beach house to chill in after the lossrobotron3k
- Oh no. He has a beach house! https://static.dezee…inteliboy
- In Venezuela!monospaced
- Don't get it twisted, being a millionaire socialist has very exculsive entitlements!robotron3k
- "Fucking Commie Bastard Bernie" - Hayothutopian
- allthethings1
This lightly redacted report is *lit*
- “This is the end of my presidency. I’m fucked.” ... yeah that’s what innocent people say .. LOLRamanisky2
- Attorney General is essentially Trump's defense attorney. WACKBonSeff
- https://www.youtube.…Bluejam
- allthethings0
Barr quotes Mueller: “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
What immediately preceded that:
"Although the investigation established ... that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts."
- allthethings0
I skipped ahead to see the Trump legal team's written answers to Mueller's questions...nearly every one of them begins with some variation of "I have no independent recollection of..."
- Didn't he say once that he has one of the greatest memories of all time?mathinc
- Ramanisky20
Hmmmmm. Seems totally legal.
- I don't see anything here. What am I missing?monospaced
- He gave internal polling data to the Russians, and pointed to the important states. What was he expecting the Russians to do with this info?mathinc
- I wonder if Manafort used this data:
https://pbs.twimg.co…Gnash - ^ shhh.. Adults are talking.mathinc
- honestly, people losing their minds at the idea of russia influencing an election. newsflash, they've tried to every single one since ww1.Gnash
- move on people.Gnash
- They did influence the election. That has been established.monospaced
- Gnash, maybe you're having problem understanding the issue: The campaign 1. helped RU in those efforts, and 2. Amplified the efforts.mathinc
- What other reason can you provide for giving polling data and pointing to the battleground states other than aid?mathinc
- Then you see Russian bots targeting social media with lies, and Trump inner circle sharing those posts.mathinc
- Totally legal, and totally cool.mathinc
- so what? exact same marketing tools are used by every party in every election. you think other parties don't lie in advertising?Gnash
- or use social media in a not-so-cool way? move onGnash
- 'you think any candidate, regardless of party, would have said "no" to a hard-drive full of dirt on the other guys?Gnash
- You're trying awfully hard to shove your head in the sand.mathinc
- trump's a moron and he handled this like the collosaal dope that he is. Hill's would have done the same thing but would have been way smarter about it.Gnash
- There's still a very hard line between 'would have', and 'actually have' done. You cannot treat them with the same amount of guilt.T-Dawg
- word up, mathincBonSeff
- the exploitation of information detrimental to one's adversary is not illegal. the info wasn't made-up or false.Gnash
- Sorry, *we* cannot treat them.T-Dawg
- guilt about what, exactly? if the info came from the Canadians instead of the Russians, it would have been ok?Gnash
- Is anyone actually trying to suggest that the Dem's would have taken the high road and not used the info?? Who's head is in the sand here?Gnash
- They gave information to a hostile foreign gov to help them influence our election, and then amplified those actions. That's worlds apart from 'using dirt'.mathinc
- Nope, it wouldn't be ok. I'm just commenting on the 'But Hillary (or other parties...)' would do the same' argument.T-Dawg
- I honestly don't even know how else to say it. Like talking to my 4 year olds...mathinc
- @math you mean the same data any party gives to anybody on any marketing team? data that's available to pretty much anybody?Gnash
- All the arguing on QBN during the Bush/Obama years is what actually got me interested in politics, so there's some merit to all this ;)T-Dawg
- lol. you're right about that, TGnash
- Gnash, if polling data was sitting there like a sandwich on a park bench then why have Gates send it to them, then delete his messages?mathinc
- Why'd Mueller even bring it up if it's as common as a grain of sand on a beach? Or a flea on a stray dog in Spain.. I can go on...mathinc
- i guess they deleted the messages because they knew it would look really, really stupid if people found out.Gnash
- I mean, you'd have to be a complete idiot to ask Russia for help in a US election.Gnash
- yeah, that's the pointmonospaced
- The point that he's an idiot was well established long ago. That wasn't what they were investigating. It's not illegal to be a dope.Gnash
- sure ... but it does make his supporters look like total asshats for voting in and accepting the shennanigans of a fucking idiotmonospaced
- I feel like the US of the past would never have allowed a person like him to be president, or tolerated his continued degradation of the nation's integritymonospaced
- and now we're reduced to looking for actual prison crimes as the basis for impeachment, when before it was enough to be an asshatmonospaced
- mathinc0
FAKE NEWS!! LMAO
- mathinc2
Pony, Robocunt (can't see you anyways, so nm), freedom, Boz...
After reading the Muller Report, I'd love to hear what you think. This looks terrible for yer boi. Maybe it's not criminal, but after reading the obstruction (Vol 2) section.. how can you -- as an adult -- read this and support this president? How can you watch him say, "Oh the fake news is awful." While he directed lie upon lie. The press got most shit right, despite the administration smoke screening and lying.
- To them, as long as it’s not criminal it’s acceptable.monospaced
- And they think Mueller and the FBI are engaged in a Deep State conspiracy.allthethings
- when I have ever supported this guy, tommy? If you think shitting on the left and calling them morons for hanging on to the RUSSIA COLLUSION hoax...PonyBoy
- for 2+ years makes me a supporter of the orange turd then you (along w/many other fucks on this site) have selective reading skillsPonyBoy
- You go ahead though and get 'hung up' on how you now how info that makes the man look like a tool (wait... we have that everyday) even though...PonyBoy
- ... the point of the investigation was about RUSSIAN COLLUSION (stay on topic guys). You look like fools. There was nothing there... and what's worse...PonyBoy
- ... is the fuckholes who pushed for the FISA court to provide spying (I'm sorry—'surveillance... are about to be in some serious trouble.PonyBoy
- Learn to lose w/grace... you won't look so stupid when you're left trying to hold on to SOMETHING from a wasteful investigation like this one...PonyBoy
- ... Obstruction? Of what? There was no crime in the end. The left just continues to look stupid... gimmie more of that Nadler fuck... wow, what a tool.PonyBoy
- Russian COLLUSION, tommy... prove that... not obstruction of a NON-crime. You might get me on your side of thinking then.PonyBoy
- It's weird how you "don't like the guy" but parrot all of his talking points. So excuse me for thinking you're FOR him when you expect the FBI to ignoremathinc
- when Carter Page is dealing with Russians.. and involved with a US campaign. Totally valid to call that spying on a campaign. You know what.. if you don't wantmathinc
- the FBI looking into people on your campaign, then don't staff it full of RU stooges. Pretty simple.mathinc
- And re collusion, I guess you didn't read the report? Or do you get your news from the same place that's talking up all that SPYING the DEEP STATE did?mathinc
- If you take Barr's summary as the final word, then sure, there was nothing going on there between RU-Trump. Maybe read it and then see if you have amathinc
- problem with how that campaign ran in terms of its interactions with RU?mathinc
- If Hillary, or anyone else was feeding a foreign power polling data and info, and that country unleashed their bot farms to subvert the election.. I'd want thatmathinc
- person in jail. I guess ignoring those actions is what's called 'losing with grace'.mathinc
- Big Picture: You now know Trump isn't a Russian puppet—he was not placed in office by Putin. THAT has been the bullshit drivel for 2+ years.PonyBoy
- to say there was "nothing there" is extremely naive, as there was obviously something, despite it not bringing strict criminal chargesmonospaced
- Now we'll spend the next 2 years investigating obstruction of a non-crime. Orange Man BAAAAD!! Must get him no matter what!! Grow up.PonyBoy
- Ugh, even if it's not criminal, defending ANY of this is as deplorable as what actually is happening in the whitehouse. It's all despicable.monospaced
- I've never thought he was a puppet as much as a useful idiot. They did find facts related to collusion and a lot more for obstruction. Why you can'tmathinc
- Guys... where did Christopher Steele get his info for the Dossier that started it all? What did he himself say about his ability to verify the info?PonyBoy
- acknowledge that orange man isn't fit for office is your business. I do.mathinc
- To just brush off this behavior as if it's in any way acceptable for a standing president just feels wrong, and downright unamerican.monospaced
- That fuckcing Dossier is what was used (and not explained) to put the FISA court in action. You feel good about that?PonyBoy
- The dossier isn't where this started. I mean, seriously.. where the fuck are you getting your news?mathinc
- Tommy... whether or not I 'acknowledge that orange man isn't fit for office' means NOTHING. Vote him out. He was lawfully elected and the left is doing...PonyBoy
- ... nothing to prove him worthy of impeachment and instead look like fools clinging on to bullshit. Keep this shit up and bet he's voted in again.PonyBoy
- *I betPonyBoy
- Also, what exactly has he done to help protect the elections.. answer that.mathinc
- And I've asked this more than once already - please don't call me out in these threads - if I feel like participating in your conversation I will...PonyBoy
- ... <3PonyBoy
- I'll do whatever I fucking please.
:Pmathinc - "The dossier isn't where this started." Really? Where'd the FISA court get their info from that started the 'surveillance'?PonyBoy
- lol... you do what you 'fucking please', junior... :P
btw... when you coming down here so I can buy you a beer? (maybe I should come up there?) :)PonyBoy - And I think I called you a 'fuck' somewhere back in those notes... you know I have nothing but love for you, tom (and mono... <3 you both).PonyBoy
- It 'all started' with Papadopolos (sp?). Devin Nunes confirmed that one a year ago when he did that whole memo backfire stunt.mathinc
- The FACTS haven't stopped people from the GOP from continuously acting like it was the dossier though. And even if it was the dossier.. Steele is a respectedmathinc
- expert on RU. I understand the dossier played a part in things. But papa started it. Facts get in the way of the GOP/Trump narrative though.mathinc
- And I got nothing but <3 for you too. The fact that you're a red hat MAGA Fuckboy hasn't diminished that. I don't seem to have your #, you got mine?mathinc
- Papadopblahblah was approached... he didn't make first contact (there was mass outreach to the Trump campaign by the Russians - not the reverse)PonyBoy
- It went nowhere... wikileaks released Hillz emails so Papa had nothing anyway and didn't need to lie like he did (only served 12 days so wasn't 'that' bad)PonyBoy
- Steele seems like a good guy... he (under oath I believe) said he couldn't confirm the info... and yet that info became the basis for FISA warrants... crazy.PonyBoy
- And listen here ya red commie elitist... yeah... I think I have your number still... hold on... let me send you a loving text.PonyBoy
- That's all speculation. You don't know what they used for FISA. Carter Page is a total fuckup, and it seems he was legit trying to get on RUs good side.mathinc
- Who knows what that dude did to get surveilled. I feel 100% this is going to blow up in Trump/Barr face. None of it adds up to 'spying.'mathinc
- Holy shit you read 400 pages?! And here I figure journalist read it for news and push out findings and still haven't seen any idea of russian collusion********
- surprisingly math you didn't even state finding based on your reaction to engage. personally for me that is red flag you are simply signaling********
- from the comments it looks like focus on the piss gate dossier, the one even MSM after reveling in have tried to forget and scrub mention of.********
- and seriously you blocked people you don't want to see? Progress that convenient formula. Much like facebook algos try to decide. World is better in strife of********
- opinion. diversity in opinion is same as genetics so you don't constantly fuck your own daughter. or as picasso said about copying********
- oneself. its embarassing. read the comments and respond accordingly if you feel the need. a very important necessity if you dont want to create feedback loops********
- and bubble information necessary for capitalism or larger development in the real world********
- 1st: Robo has been on QBN for the last 10+ years with 100+ screen names.. fake polish girlfriends.. and has stirred shit the entire time. His 'view' ismathinc
- not something I'm interested in because he is legitimately a disturbed person. 2nd: Of course I didn't read the entire document, but I did read about 10% of itmathinc
- yesterday. Mostly jumping to topics I thought interesting.mathinc
- huh robo is that true? He seemed always the same views to me, never multiple accounts. not that i look super hard********
- when you jump to topics are worried about only looking for confirmation bias?********
- by jump to topics i meant the 10% you chose that is. Clarify since topics is my defined nomenclature to what you read.********
