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- bliznutty-1
- he's a democratic socialist, and at the end of the day, acts, lives, and thrives and supports capitalism as an American, like all of usmonospaced
- LOL. Yes Ron, selling stuff is one way to get rich. There are many more, so no it doesn't prove billionaires shouldn't pay taxes. And since you admit inequalityzarkonite
- is inherent to the system it's only natural to want to lessen that effect with policies and laws.zarkonite
- ron paul sucksimbecile
- Sure some inequality is normal and natural but when THREE PEOPLE have as much money as half the country, can you really defend that on the same grounds?yuekit
- I'm sure Ron Paul is a nice guy and probably even agrees with Sanders on many issues, but his economic theory falls apart when you look at the actual numbers.yuekit
- Three people (Gates, Bezos and Buffet) have as much wealth as 160 million Americans. All because of their ability or were they just in the right place at theyuekit
- right time..? Ironically it's a very pro-establishment, pro-corporate viewpoint from Ron Paul and his followers.yuekit
- The fuck... Ron Paul is absolutely correct and none of these comments come close to arguing directly against it.********
- I am curious to zarknites idea of other ways to get rich? Pillaging ships on the broad seas ARGH! Running daycare scam in minneapolis...********
- To ukits stance of major players owning so much money. You have to look at how their wealth is so great? If they weren't publicly traded********
- where would there wealth lie. I can assume you follow the script and invest and probably pushup their wealth all to push yours up********
- Self interest. Trend chasing. Look at zoom IPO today at 49x it's annual revenue. The thing that pads the wallstreet big boys coffers more than actual product is********
- is the small fry greed thinking they can cash in on on the success of the people they disdain. but that is only one part, monetary policy and interest rates********
- and those that have access to capital also help widen the divide.********
- To go back to Pauls argument, it is absolutely true. Inequality is a thing of life, and as such life exists. Bernie is a hypocrite. A conman looking for power a********
- nd self idealized glory. His wife is a proper example of his leanings in the college realm.********
- hell if you don't like the rich boycott the product. every dollar is a vote and its far better view of value than say a 4 year election. it is true democracy********
- yuekit do you have a prime account you strike me as a person with one.? Hell even mono and zarkonite probably have echos too********
- sorry bliz i don't really use votes to push agenda. think its a gimmick to appease the peasants. but a spot on post.********
- Ron Paul drives on public roads and spent most of his career getting paid from taxpayer money, does that make him a hypocrite? Don't be silly.yuekit
- His comments are not some great insight. Sure that's how capitalism works....wow, mind blown lol. The next step is to come to the more nuanced understandingyuekit
- that you need some kind of redistribution as well, otherwise the system gets ridiculously unequal and undermines itself.yuekit
- I don't have an echo. Do me a favor and quit it with references to me and your continued dumbass assumptions about people and things. Jesus christ.monospaced
- Yeah I don't have a Prime account either and barely use Amazon. SMH.yuekit
- ron paul isnt a hypocrite. he's pretty solid. hes so principled that his end the fed could have disastrous consequences but speaks to his principles.********
- far as roads and infrastructure remember where the road tax money is suppose to come from. petro tax. kind of fucked up now with********
- evs, getting subsidies and not paying share, but than again those funds are mostly slush funds. not against taxation for public works********
- but nothing bernie says about taxation is equal or wise, or makes a lick of sense. he only offers free shit, not from him, to keep a job.********
- good for you guys. you struck me as consumer types wanting to be on top of the trends. im not always right. but than again its just your word********
- and on distribution... the idea capitalism gets unbalanced and needs one is myth. gov controlled capitalism causes needs for redistribution, hence socialism.********
- gov gets involved makes capitalism perverse, creating bubbles, and it creates a feedback loop that all we need to fix it is more gov control********
- death: you can speculate with your funds on the capital market. Once you have cash it's a lot easier to make more money. Look at the Koch brothers, they madezarkonite
- more money with their investments than with digging for oil. That's what's creating a lot of inequality.zarkonite
- This ridiculous notion that a market can exist without rules is dead wrong, a market IS a set of rules to being with and the normal flow of capital createszarkonite
- monopolies. That's why we have had to come up with so many rules to encourage competition.zarkonite
- Zark you are wrong. First Koch created value to earn money. And lets think for a second about their view to stay private. Not public. Action says more than word********
- As far as having wealth does allow you to make more but you can also blow is well. It's about what one does with capital, not just simply having it.********
- As far as monopolies. What monopolies have existed? And if any did gov have any role to play in creating them? I think the joke in the game monopoly is to show********
- how hard it is to get a monopoly and the game trucks on forever. Unless jsut super lucky and get the best rolls and dumb players, but the thing is the world is********
- much more diverse and spreads risk infinetly farther than the game********
- Monopoly is almost an irrational fear in really free system. It can happen, but historically only with gov backing.********
- But as far as investment plays into things. And your idea having money begets more money what do you think of passive investment********
- and IPOs like uber coming up to market at asinine valuations. The people who most will benefit from uber going public are softbank, goldman, google.********
- So many people investing passively due to gov perverse incentives help prop up these global giants and give more opportunity for monopoly********
- all because the the many fell for the carrot on the stick. a way to beat 2% central banking inflation. the whole thing is rigged********
- all greed from big and small. and capitalism hasn't failed. it can't. it is principle or axiom. A truely morally derived system of equality and freedom.********
- and with that said shows such little understanding of those who bandwagon to try to debase it. They say things like equality but are never after such a thing.********
- Just greedily looking for a form of rule or script that give s them the most and call it equality. And the rule maker is through gov. Tariffs, licensing,********
- anything you can imagine to lobby and give you an edge. Gov doesn't mind. The joke is its not the failure of capitalism********
- but the gov and individuals within pursuing self interests that try to control capitalism, that they think they know better and probably believe as much********
- did hitler not have some real belief in killing greedy jews running the capitalist system that benefited only them. was that not his foundation. do you not********
- see similar tactics used throughout history, always, unfortanetly winning and leading to ruin? It may be humans natural cycle like the seasons********
- but i'd love to see enough rise and really appreciate the ideals of capitalism and liberty, and not fall back into the endless death and rebirth and prefer my********
- lifetime is in the "glory" times and not the decline. I dont care if it declines past my time. But I'm greedy and hope and want for the cycle to last********
- jsut a bit longer and than let everyone else fuck it up********
- whatthefunk1
- lolcolin_s
- niceGnash
- i always get a visceral reaction to their logoGnash
- I saw them play at a small club in toronto called Dominos - one of those dingy, 2nd floor, hole-in-the-wall type places.Gnash
- so full of ironic hubris I decided to wear a Duran Duran t-shirt to the show.Gnash
- steered clear of the pogoing skinheads up front as I was felt the sticking eyeballs on me from the get-goGnash
- afterwards, outside the club,a bunch of skins beat the crap out of me -- they said they wanted to cover the shirt with blood.Gnash
- I wish I had kept the shirt. Had to toss so my mom wouldn't freak outGnash
- Damnrobotron3k
- mathinc0
- democracyGnash
- Why in the world would they want to protect it? How would that benefit them? They're not going to let go of their power that easily.mandomafioso
- Exactly.mathinc
- protect from what?********
- Are you being intentionally obtuse?mathinc
- allthethings0
Re-Read Bill Barr’s Infamous Letter With Full Quotes From the Mueller Report
Context is everything. Trump’s attorney general is a partisan hack
- allthethings0
https://www.nytimes.com/interact…
Mueller Report Shows Depth
of Connections Between
Trump Campaign and Russians
By KAREN YOURISH and LARRY BUCHANAN UPDATED APRIL 19, 2019Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition, according to a New York Times analysis.
The report of Robert S. Mueller III, released to the public on Thursday, revealed at least 30 more contacts beyond those previously known. However, the special counsel said, “the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges.”
Very few, if any, of these interactions were publicly known before Mr. Trump took office.
- hmm a few things. Even if 140 contacts to "russians" is true that means nothing until you can identify reasons or inappropriate behavior with any.********
- and based on your text its odd Trump had those contacts, but last text mentions very few were known to trump...he talked to them but didnt know?********
- i dint even care to read the article because well the whole narrative has never made sense, but i did see the name drops********
- see a lot less names involved around gps report, bruce ohr, peter strzok, mccain, clinton and such.********
- if i were to guess who had REAL influence i'd say the us insiders vs clickbait firm on russian soil. if it wasnt about revenue as clickbait is and political********
- it was such weak fuckin sauce it should be embarassing for the russians. doesnt come close to our arab spring manipulations********
- my take is its obvious russia had nothing to do. but its also obvious that becuase trump won there is a vacuum of discontent to be filled.********
- 1) the media saving face and still selling. cant just say sorry we were full of shit you double down 2) deniers needing soemthign to beleive in********
- russiagate is the obama birth record. and i find that hard to deny********
- occams razor if u will and no need for 25 million investigation********
- speaking of "deniers needing something to believe in"...."fake news!" "fake FBI" "all FAKE!!" "The only truth is Trump!!"formed
- "He does no wrong, it's the world that's all bad!" Hilarious if it weren't so true.formed
- Im sure there are the cult few who think trump does no wrong, but more seem to be upset with what they are being fed or options.********
- But the reality we have seen is a ton of fake news (not only russian click baits operate as such) Definitive FBI bias meddlings from individuals. As far as********
- Trump truth he's a liar. The only difference between him and other politicians lying is his bravado and tact. But thats demo marketing to sale. Obama had********
- his own style of selling lies to a different demo. Big difference is being able to see the lie when sold differently********
- hmm a few things. Even if 140 contacts to "russians" is true that means nothing until you can identify reasons or inappropriate behavior with any.
- colin_s4
these fucking news outlets and center-right liberals need so badly to explain trump's election as russia's fault it's like seeing infowars-level obsession for people who think shopping at whole foods is a political act
- In the USA, surprisingly there are not lots of leftists, it just seems that way because the extremely whiny, weak people often get careers in journalism.robotron3k
- Is leftist a word conservatives use? So weird.monospaced
- @robo there are very few leftists in journalism. liberals maybe, but american liberals are generally conservative in the actual political spectrumcolin_s
- According to Prager, all the Lefties are in those damn evil universities.BonSeff
- robotron3k2
A bit of a dry video, but Morris explains why Trump will trounce in the next election...
- yuekit0
A couple of interesting stories. First Democratic leadership including Pelosi and Schumer are apparently holding meetings about how to stop Bernie Sanders from becoming the nominee. "Mayor Pete" interestingly enough is part of these meetings. Has this been done for any other candidate?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/…
At the same time polls show Sanders is strongly competitive against Trump in the Midwest...ahead by 10+ points in states Trump won last time. He's certainly doing a lot better than Hillary Clinton, and polling better in key states than the other 2020 candidates.
https://www.nbcnews.com/card/san…
So do Democrats want to kill Sanders' candidacy because they are afraid he'll lose to Trump, or because they're afraid he'll win?
- Probably the same as the R's not wanting Trump - they can't control him.formed
- why are Fox being so pro-Sanders? Didn't he poll well with mid-west Trump voters last time? You'd think Sanders is most likely Dem to steal back Rep votes.Fax_Benson
- dems hate bernie, when the email leak happened it showed how the clinton campaign worked iwth DNC to push bernie outcolin_s
- also he would have won against trump in 2016 no question because the people who voted for trump would have resonated with economic despair as a messagecolin_s
- dems are neoliberal aka business first, corporations above the people, centrist and pro-war policies, shills for wall street - obama was the worstcolin_s
- fox is pro-bernie to fuck with establishment dems, assuming he'd lose against trump because they could bring out the Red Scare as a constant talking pointcolin_s
- but why would Fox give sympathetic air-time to Sanders?Fax_Benson
- Is it some kind of tactic?Fax_Benson
- ah, you got there before me.Fax_Benson
- could be risky if enough genuinely fall for him in the meantime though?Fax_Benson
- @fax i think they're hedging their bets assuming a moderate dem will take a chunk of the white women that put trump over the line in 2016 after russiagatecolin_s
- bernie is a much easier target because "radical socialist" would be a nonstop talking point along with "he created AOC" narrative, easy fear.colin_s
- its pretty bad when pelosi and other and sees sanders as dangerous enough to go against him. says something********
- they realize his policies are the same as maduro or socialist leaders he praised. be great for bernie but shit for everyone else********
- but personally he would probably just get ram rodded in congress if elected and any tough guy acts the military would boot him. but if he won youd get ppl********
- following leads the same way with trump talking out of his ass about paying for shit and false securities with no costs. we have seen quite an increase in that********
- with no guise already. prideful who cares about pay it will happen and someone not you will pay.********
- @deathboy the policies are closer to new deal-era america, which is exactly the "great" america trump talks of economically.colin_s
- Bluejam5
European Parliament elections 2019: Lord Buckethead says he will stand against Nigel Farage
https://www.euronews.com/2019/04…
- robotron3k2
- I missed his townhall thing on CNN last light. Only got to see some of Kamala'sGnash
- Kamala sure needs to have a lot of 'conversations' before having an opinion on anything.Gnash
- 46Krassy
- They are selling this wierdo like crazy, "He's gay!, He's smart, he plays instruments... He's got no policies except talking about himself, his hubby, and God"robotron3k
- Americans seem to love someone with a weird name and background combined with an ultra-normal, almost boring personality (this guy, Obama).yuekit
- He seems to be a genuine good guy and is probably the smartest candidate. And he may actually be religious. Seems like someone to bet on.********
- He's def arrogant af but once he stands next to a normal size person he's gonna look like a 5th grader.robotron3k
- I think all people who want to be President are arrogant.********
- Robo, stop hating for superficial reasons.********
- robo why do you automatically hate on every single potential dem candidate?inteliboy
- We're all waiting for him to form policies and outline how he's going to make USA fabulous! I think it's ok to laugh at how he's packaged himself...robotron3k
- LOL, you just wrote fabulous cuz he happens to be gay.********
- Do we need policies already? We just need a level-headed president who's smart and compassionate, again.********
- It's 2019, nobody cares if someone is gay anymore. If it bothers you, you've got your own insecurities you need to sort through. People do all sorts of weird.********
- Sneaky Pete, "Mr Corporate Interest" throwing shade on Bernie!!robotron3k
- neverscared1
Christian Schilcher, the deputy mayor of Braunau am Inn, published his poem in the Easter edition of a local newspaper affiliated to his far-right Freedom party.
The poem, Die Stadtratte (Nagetier mit Kanalisationshintergrund), roughly translates as The City Rat (Rodent with Sewerage Background).
- ********1
- ********1
I vote Mayor Pete or Elizabeth Warren. Or Bernie?
- Also wake me up in a year.********
- https://www.qbn.com/…Krassy
- Warren has zero chance (to even get the Dem nomination)! LOLKrassy
- It's unbelievable, the Dems are already trying to stop Bernie, infighting is their Achilles...robotron3k
- warren? yukGnash
- Warren has good policies.********
- Also wake me up in a year.
- zarkonite3
https://www.foxnews.com/politics…
They're starting to get it!
"The longest-serving Republican in the Iowa Legislature announced Tuesday that he’s becoming a Democrat, saying he didn’t want to remain in a party led by President Trump."
"... the country will pay a heavy price for Trump’s reckless spending and shortsighted financial policies.”