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- nb7
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-…
Dark fucking times, America.
I know robo and others will defend this as no big deal. To those I ask, does this really benefit America? Is the cost of this to your fellow citizens worth the outcomes?
Is the loss of liberty and citizens' fear of government really worth the supposed gains you imagine getting from this unconstitutional enforcement?
- robo & co. don't care about 'fellow citizens', or America for that matter. Fear is what they live for. Fear and hate. As long as they can carry a pitch fork.formed
- @formed you forgot maniacal self preservation ;)renderedred
- As one of the 4 people a color here on qbn, I don't like racist label "robo & co." I prefer "El más Chingón y mis Compadres"robotron3k
- There used to be 5 of us but someone ran off Georgesrobotron3k
- Robo's deflection tactic here speaks volumes.nb
- How quickly you would give up liberty so that someone else cannot have it. Shame on you.nb
- fuckin' a! robo, nobody ran off Georges to begin with. Secondly don't accuse people of being racist when they're definitely not.renderedred
- You guys really short circuit when yo hablo Español... hard to believe Latinos are generally conservative. The people being removed have lost their caserobotron3k
- And ignoring the leave order. This is not rocket science, don't you guys read instead of jumping to conclusions. They also return, so this ain't no big whoop...robotron3k
- Also nb & co. being arrested is NOT a big deal. Change my mind.robotron3k
- Land of the FREEutopian
- Thank you Baby Jesus and God that I have the proper skin tone while living in this country under a Dictate-in-chief, Amen!utopian
- I do remember in 1st grade having to hide my tacos for lunch because it was considered poor people's food. By 3rd grade I was trading them for burgers tho!robotron3k
- Sorry that was off topic, just a weird flashback...robotron3k
- oh robomonospaced
- Honestly I think the U.S. media is making too big a deal out of this. Raids to deport people staying illegally in the country who were already ordered to leave?yuekit
- The hysteria allows Trump to look like super tough anti-immigrant guy, and Democrats to fundraise, when really it's just the same thing previous presidents did.yuekit
- all media hype. first quote bias shows it. point is to portray a reality that isn't really true. Didn't even try to provide lame stats says something.********
- not buying the fear portrayal. but am curious how ID and passports workout because states are different. CA illegals can have driver licenses, NV can't fly********
- without real ID or providing passport. better journalism might work such things into articles and how state rules hinder or cause more drastic measures********
- a fair and balanced judgement of ID's and how multiple bureaucratic offices must approach based on another set of rules determined outside organizations...********
- there is truth to that. my buddies wife was detained at texas border after visiting family in mexico. she fit a profile and had to go through all the red tape********
- to prove she is a legal citizen. that kind of inconvenience comes from broken over complicated system. however not concerned with passports or ice raids.********
- Ramanisky20
How very Christian.
- ...this video is gold. Unfortunately people are caught, and will be held as the example why not to come. But even naive people need to think twice about coming.robotron3k
- But this will save lives.robotron3k
- https://www.washingt…robotron3k
- naive people in an huminatarin crises . to achieve that mindset u really have to swallow a lot of centipedes cum..neverscared
- No, naive in low and no education peeps who try make the dangerous journey or send their children. They make most of their decisions on gossip.robotron3k
- You mother fuckers who talk so much smack have so little knowledge of people in North America, have you ever traveled to México??robotron3k
- Do you get off on being infuriatingly dumb? You just tried to educate somebody on Mexico while misspelling Mexico. Go back to the kid's table.garbage
- he didn't misspell Mexico, he simply looked up how it's spelled in Mexico in a weak attempt at convincing you all he's a trump supporting Mexicanmonospaced
- I'm laughing at the copy-paste scenario that had to have happened. I thought you were a real American robo.garbage
- It's always hilarious when somebody confronts him and he just goes back into his shell. He's not capable of a comeback when called out. Sad!garbage
- colin_s1
yo robo re: "But even naive people need to think twice about coming."
- open immigration is something that can be conceived in systems of with little social programs such as the time that was made. liberty was much cooler than********
- but tell me how ope n immigration is working in other countries? Didnt france have a nice lil sit in in the pantheon this weekend?********
- The more social systems you have works against freer immigration. That's just fact. Because it becomes a political losing cause for votes.********
- Open immigration in the US means a lot of lower wages for many people. We think we can keep our lifestyle inflated by minimum wage laws but fact is many will********
- work for less, especially immigrants where our dollar goes farther. like the pretty countries we tend to vacation in. that blatant ignorance of people actions********
- would create unrest. politicans would have to do something. economically they set up a destruction for only they are the cure.********
- and i think we would slide into all the third world politics and failures of other nations states which we haven't truely had to deal with yet********
- dude slavery made up for like 1/3 of the economy back then. and inequality is rampant now. tax the rich, give higher wages to general laborcolin_s
- reduce taxes on the middle class, reduce military spending and size. tax corporations to scale, don't let capital run the world, put people first.colin_s
- all of your arguments are about not disrupting a system so broken to fit the desires of a select few; if that's what you want, enjoy. but it's fucked.colin_s
- that has nothing to do with immigration past or present rules regarding the quoted piece********
- you do realize your failure in seeing inequality of "stuff" as a "bad" thing right?********
- your entire premise is based on false reasoning. you are a prime example of a pawn of central controllers. slavery made up a big part of the economy and********
- here you want to repeat the same mistakes and the wishes of such masters and be congratulated for it. just think about it. not what you are told but the sense********
- of it. who is the slave in a socialistic system? do you think US system that allowed slavery was a system not voted on democratically? and systematically based********
- largely on self interested economy?********
- if anything the we can look at actual politics historically and good intentions of the time and see what history makes********
- tell me this colin how would you run a profitable business********
- and pay people what they thought they deserved? would u sacrifice profit margins even at a loss to support your intentions?********
- personally i think you are quite nieve********
- i wouldn't run a business, everything would be split equal among workers. and i don't believe in the united states system. at all.colin_s
- i believe it needs to end, full stop, and re-written. i don't give a shit about the nuance of a broken machine. also slavery was voted on by racists.colin_s
- slavery still exists to this day, in our prison system and use of offshore labor in countries with fewer labor protection laws.colin_s
- Truth used to be about facts, now it's how people feel.robotron3k
- BTW, after we ended slavery in the USA, we fought against slavery worldwide. Slaves is short for Slavic, aka, white slaves, read history yorobotron3k
- Robo, you're wrong as usual.ben_
- the etymology of the word is irrelevantmonospaced
- unless you're a racist and don't want to admit it was a purely racist practice enslaving africans for hard labor and sufferingmonospaced
- Agreed Mono, however he's also wrong (again).ben_
- well colin i believe you will never run a business. or not for long. outsourcing is due to monetary stuff********
- funny how open immigration went to slavery********
- open immigration is something that can be conceived in systems of with little social programs such as the time that was made. liberty was much cooler than
- robotron3k-5
The Democrats really don't seem to have a horse in this race so I was thinking who the Dems needed to beat PDT, maybe someone like a Huey Long. This guy was full on Democrat Socialist Populist Dictator from Louisiana in the 1930s. He scared the shit out of the Govt, the way he spoke. He would have been President easily if he wasn't assassinated. I pulled up one of his (drunk) firebrand speeches and I couldn't believe my ears, he's saying the same message 80 years ago, this guy could be the Democrat front runner today...
- Why would you think that Democrats want a dictator like the right? Personally, I value freedom, individual rights and equality. The right clearly does not.formed
- lol, robo's just realised ideological struggles aren't a recent thing.fadein11
- lol, want me to find a 1930s dictator who speaks like he could be a Republican todaay? do you really want that?monospaced
- Well formed the Democrats can win with the candidates they have, that's why. Fade, Bernie stole this guys stchick, and Beto his drunk stylerobotron3k
- Can't winrobotron3k
- Hehe mono, square moustache man reference always great to hide the fact the Dems gonna take the L in 2020robotron3k
- as long as his most deplorable supporters are okay with that kind of rhetoric, you may be right ... racist, stupid, fearful, brainwashed fucks.monospaced
- but let's face it, you're the one digging up 90 year old footage to make a weak comparison, so you really are in no position to talk about who's hiding whatmonospaced
- Thanks Time Travelling Obama!zarkonite
- those who dont learn from the past********
- playing your part like a good little boy. dems are evil see. socialism see. right vs left see. yes sir, thank you sir, I love you sir!inteliboy
- inteliboy its about what is being sold not party. such sells cross party lines equally. the point is not getting blinded by the partisanship********
- and focusing on content and figuring out if its all a bullshit sell. or a sell that will have a shit ton of victims. and only their to push the individuals goal********
- lolmonospaced
- jaylarson5
- Spot on jay. Fuck Mike Pence.Ramanisky2
- himmler is at least looking at the prisoner....renderedred
- jesus, Pence doesn't even need the full uniform/regalia to look like an SS officer_niko
- History in the making.zarkonite
- Now in Technicolor 4k™jaylarson
- body language says a lotplash
- neverscared0
- She's still wearing that old thing? So last seasonsarahfailin
- Just a friendly reminder that the person who orchestrated that original photo stunt as a "HAHA TRIGGERED?" moment is Stephanie Grisham.garbage
- An absolute pile of human trash with multiple DUI's and oh um, current White House Press Secretary.garbage
- Has she even had a press conference yet?fooler
- ^ Of course notRamanisky2
- imbecile0
Lolita Express?
What We Know About Jeffrey Epstein’s Private Jet, the ‘Lolita Express’
https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/j…
According to this week’s indictment, Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of dozens of minors mostly occurred at his residences in Manhattan and Palm Beach, but another critical setting for his predatory activities was on his private Boeing 727 plane, a midsize, three-engine commercial jet airliner nicknamed the “Lolita Express.” He allegedly used the plane to shuttle underage girls between New York and Palm Beach, and an employee would be onboard to “ensure that minor victims were available for encounters upon his arrival.”
- Dunno y didn't he just live permanently out of the country like diddler Arthur C. Clarke!?robotron3k
- Anyone know where this clown made his money? current conspiracy theory is the majority of it is blackmail of famous fucks w/his lolitas... but honestly—where?PonyBoy
- Got a source (that isn't bullshit gossip) for that, robo? Clarke was understood to be gay, not a paedophileNairn
- Robo's homophobia is stuck in the same era as the tabloids that created the Clarke accusations - "be afraid of gays, they will rape your kids". fucking idiot.ben_
- Nothing wrong with being ghey, I'll have you know many famous people are ghey, relationships need to be in closer in age that's all.robotron3k
- So this is what being an "unsuccessful creative" does to people...ben_
- Ugh, Issac Assminov even went to jail over it.... Damn.robotron3k
- In what galaxy did he go to jail you kook?ben_
- was he friends with Asimov?Fax_Benson
- No, it's just Robo off-meds because his crush is ignoring the notes he's leaving her on the office teddy-bear.ben_
- PonyBoy-1
- Look at that, a full on Democrat meltdown in the House.robotron3k
- i despise pelosi as much as anyone but it takes a specific kind of fucked up self-involvement to focus on the house response after trump's commentscolin_s
- Colin_s Google: "Barr 1158" this is what PDT was doing while you were all focused on stupid words.robotron3k
- Dems are winning on this.zarkonite
- 55% of voters hate Trump & will divide their vote among 6+ lefty candidates, watering down votes, so Trump cruises to victory in 2020robotron3k
- American elections are usually only with 2 people, except for Ross Perrot I've never seen another candidate run. The numbers are looking bad for the Rs.zarkonite
- right now trump has it in the bag. unless than democrats find some way to impeach than good ol billy will take it back to good ol same party same team shit********
- because the democratic people are all pretty worthless. not sure any entertaining factor will shift the common sense********
- in that hmm well all this free shit who pays... that sell has less effect than the abstract MAGA or HOPE campaigns********
- The election will be a referendum on Trump, and as robotron3k just admitted above, 55% are against him.yuekit
- Actually it's worse than that, I think 55% said they will not vote for him under any circumstances.yuekit
- Would be foolish to say either side has it locked down, but those are challenging numbers to say the least lol.yuekit
- lol, so much gibberish written heremonospaced
- I never said anything about Trump losing, it's looking bad for the Republicans that's all. They'll get pushed off the map like they did in the mid-terms. Untilzarkonite
- the Dems have a candidate there's no guessing how things are going to play out.zarkonite
- well wait and see but data points to trump********
- got a link to said data?zarkonite
- colin_s0
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.co…
https://www.defensenews.com/smr/…
as long as people are hung up on the "waste of money" that is taking care of first responders for 9/11, should be a good time to revisit the multi-billion dollar fuck-up that is a war plane that still doesn't work
- morbidity over vitality...neverscared
- Well according the following article it has a kill ratio of 28:1 against 4th gen fighters.inv
- http://www.airforcem…inv
- This means that Norway with its 52 planes, could basically take on the entire Russion Air Force (~1400 fighters). Pretty good investment...inv
- two wrongs dont make a right. however ambition and goals of plane far trump 9/11 fund********
- unless you think securing 350 million ppl is less than ... what less than 100k?********
- but the big problem of central contolled gov and special interests.********
- R_Kercz1
Chapo interview with Andrew Yang
- FNP144
Who else is sick of talking about all this??
Let’s just say, “fuck it” and let the world burn.
- Half the country did just then when they voted for Trump.monospaced
- trump was just the status quo sickness.. but mostly liberal media control backfiring toward profit taking. They found they could make more money with trump********
- they were all surprised though to see their money grab in negative press didn't pay off. election wise. trying to have the cake and eat it too********
- in fact outside big cities and demographics dominated by media people still have common sense and could see this wasnt the same kind of turdburger********
- it wasn't status quo. and people gambled on something new. think they understood the party bullshit. not saying it was wise, but probably with hc or jeb, id bet********
- yeah, whatever. but trump voters still were at the point where their vote for him was a “fuck it, let it all burn” momentmonospaced
- nah. it would be the same obama hope emo bet. Know this doesn't work lets roll the dice and hope. MAGA HOPE!********
- Trump isn’t that.monospaced
- not too you mono. look pass your relative view. try on others shoes a bit and see world from a bigger picture********
- mg331
FNP14,
I saw my doctor for a physical today and talked about the anxiety I've been having and how addicted I am to news and information and keeping up with politics. She didn't have a solution for how to disconnect from it, but suggested meditation to at least help get my nerves down to a more manageable level, so that political stress doesn't always put me over the edge.
Fact is, I just don't know how to not care to the degree I do. I feel like if I were to miss a day of news and staying on top of stuff, I'd be behind. I envy people who can avoid it all, but if I were to be that person I feel like I'd become the political apathy I rail about so much these days.
- Ask her for a medical marihuana ID cardMaaku
- It's about to be legal in Illinois in January 2019. I've actually got CBD oil arriving today and she said that was great.mg33
- Hoping it helps.mg33
- Smoke some DMT, see what the machine elves have to say. best to get involved in local community work a few hours a week instead of news time.PhanLo
- go see a georgian witch doctor: https://www.youtube.…shapesalad
- just go on a holiday, travel. turnoff phone. go somewhere with no english spoken.shapesalad
- Maybe meditation could help you do both - keep on top of the news cycle as much as you want but learn how to switch it off when you needFax_Benson
- You don't need to follow politics! Do you not already have all the information you need to cast your vote next time around?zarkonite
- Holy shit. I had no idea that was what was bothering you. From parent to parent, ditch the damn news cycle and save yourself.monospaced
- Read up once in awhile, vote and enjoy your family. Life’s too short to worry about politics and news when you aren’t a politician.monospaced
- paying attention to the gap between inhalations and exhalations and then getting it to zero is a nice lil exercise.jaylarson
- not everyone knows how to deal with info overload. imagine it from different perspectives to gauge it and relevance. much like einstein for relativity.********
- or even read more (not MSM entertainment you only get taylor swift politics) and realize all the US issues are not really as bad as so many other countries.********
- still sitting pretty with trivialites and a few big monetary hurdles, but top men working on those. or even go old school to jefferson enlightenment after********
- running against adams state control and realizing you know fuck everyone. life of politics is for highschool jocks and cheerleaders. can get by and adjust with********
- out them. me though my curiosity is too strong to keep away. plus a few self interests. probably follow and learn more of stupid human behavior patterns********
- lolmonospaced
- Take one week off and come back to it for a day and notice how you didn't miss a fuckin thangnb
- nb3
So guys how's that wall coming along?
Remember when Trump wouldn't shut the fuck up about how good he is at getting things built???
Lulz.
- I ‘membermonospaced
- ha, yes the wall won't be a part of his next campaign, dats boring, he's gonna focus on his enemies within nowfadein11
- memberberriesteh
- The wall was aimed at the enemies within though. It was a lie but the targets were clear and idiots believed him.monospaced
- true yep, I was referring to those female politicians who trigger him so badly.fadein11
- well actually no trigger really, they are just doing his basic politics for him, which is very sad.fadein11
- ********-1
https://www.rgj.com/story/news/p…
A funny little report which only touches on really how much is spent. Wish i kept my indesign report file
But costs about 90K per year to create a 25hr(roughly 50K) job. The report also doesn't measure growth and pains of such little tax revenue for the growth in the community and infrastructure and how it is all effected.
I actually believe people think its moral to spend 90K of collective funds to pay for a 50K job. I don't think they care enough bigger picture than their dopamine hit of good intentions. But for it to be the popular reaction says so much and more than likely goes back to following pedestals at education levels. Clearly logically unsustainable but regarded as good. That shit is dogmatic belief. I dont even have much hope people will wake up here because too many immigrants from CA hoping they can have their cake and eat it too.
- the failure private businesses to meet targets when given tax cuts isn't justification of laissez-faire liberalism...kingsteven
- What does this have to do with parties? If you want to look at corruption and abuse of "investments", here ya go:formed
- https://www.cnn.com/…formed
- private funds in private companies to meet targets is one thing public funds used as carrots for politicians with no oversight or responsibility is different********
- it merely depicts who are the losers when a few connected people play economist in markets. the tax payers. not the politicians involved in policy********
- and more so in spill over effects like speculation investment, or lemmings chasing fake gold rushes that drive costs through the roof********
- a man made bubble outside all natural laissez-faire economics. a very dumb fuck self interested gov made bubble.********
- formed this involves both parties. they both look to use public funds for their own gains. this happens to be mostly republican. but sandoval i dont think********
- was philosophically connected to a party. just what gets me paid. as is most business. and a large point in thinking public officials with power controlling********
- things they have no ability to understand or even control looking out for best interests of others is a fuckin joke.********
- it was like free public funds for any company that i can talk about at a campaign rally or fancy dinner jerk off. we havent even felt the full brunt of the********
- lost revenue and promises yet. We do however have a newly appoint democrat that says no new property taxes on his watch********
- while promising ever more spending...on special interests... hopefully we wont be like illinois anytime soon********
- and does anyone truly think a job costing 90K but pays 50K is good government economic control? which i thought was obvious********
- but now questioning if maybe ppl can't answer that********
