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- drgs1
A new poll of registered Democrats has Hillary Clinton as their top choice for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential nomination
https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/de…Trump 2nd term - already won
- neverscared3
lol- not in the first term - argument. these guys are just pouring with insanity.
- BonSeff1
This shit is so dead in the senate, what was the fucking point? And then capitulate to the trade deal hours later? What a fucking joke.
- The point is to get these senators on record saying this stuff is ok with them.inv
- the point is obviousmonospaced
- yuekit3
Just made my first political donation today to Bernie Sanders campaign. I'd actually be happy with any of Sanders, Warren or Yang as the candidate but looking at it realistically I think Sanders has the best chance at the moment to defeat Biden and might also be the strongest candidate against Trump in the general election. I'd be very happy with a Sanders/Warren ticket if they can make that happen somehow.
IMO the left has a unique chance to break through right now, but it's not going to happen by sitting on the sidelines or clever comments on Twitter. With Jeremy Corbyn's likely defeat today, we need to take seriously the challenges (from the media as well as wealthy interests) and act accordingly.
- " the left has a unique chance to break through right now, but it's not going to happen:" with Warren or Yang.deadsperm
- "we need to take seriously the challenges and act accordingly."deadsperm
- Not to say that you should go the "Anyone but Warren" route and let Trump go through.deadsperm
- it's not a question of "left or right" it's about corporate greed vs. poor people, and corporate greed has the upper hand by a lot...renderedred
- show me one u.s. president that took on corporate greed head on. not one. eisenhower warned everybody 50+ years ago, not one president took notice.renderedred
- Yeah I wouldn't consider myself a socialist or dogmatic leftist. I do think that in order to get any change at all these days you need to start with a superyuekit
- strong opening gambit. Elect Trump and you might not get a giant wall but you will get some restrictions on immigration. Realistically I think Sanders andyuekit
- Warren would struggle to pass any of their big spending programs in current form. But you could get some strong action on climate change finally which would beyuekit
- world-changing, trust busting of corporations and corruption, and an end to imperialist foreign policy. I have no idea what Biden would do if elected.yuekit
- jeesus ukit i thought you were smarter than that. the shit they are selling is so bad. sanders just wants a lil trophy before he dies, the same with warren.********
- yang hasnt even figured out what he wants even subconciously. they will sell anything liek a bad used car sells person to get their kickback********
- the policy theyre talking about is scorch earth happened in many other countries policies... unless you believe in a globalist type state run system...********
- everyone is an ant working for the councils and rulers above them. They work within their boundaries and that is it. a very chinese way of ruling********
- run monetary supply and control all wealth and growth to keep masses just below happy to chase the carrot with for a semblence of democracy.********
- which the term has seemed to lose its meaning of actual mob rule in this day and age.********
- it would be world changing... but how do you see that it a positive light. economically not aspirational. IE change the world in a cliamte friendly matter that********
- cost effectively works. of all the policy they spit. they never get into the details of anything. for a reason.********
- there are none. the sell is the end game. that is as far as they go. get elected promising shit like a priest! get paid and move on for next person to figure ou********
- deathboy I don't think you realize how much your comments already represent the establishment view of U.S. politics.yuekit
- Privatize everything, never put public interest or "mob rule" as you call it ahead of the need to turn a profit.yuekit
- None of this is original or revolutionary, it's how both of the major parties already operate.yuekit
- It worked so well that among younger Americans these days, who have dramatically less savings and wealth than the previous generation, they now favoryuekit
- socialism over capitalism. Well done lol.yuekit
- uh no not at all ukit. there is politics and there is monetary policy. loosely tied but very different in cause and effect********
- but also why the major parties i find are of the same feather. the illusion is to give choice. the sanders brow beaten down to kneel for alms********
- why i actually don't mind trump. not status quo. fuckin idiot but tired of both party peddlin the same shit. and any third party has 0 chance********
- If you think Trump is that different I don't think you are paying much attention. On 90% of issues he's the same as any other Republican.yuekit
- He's "different" in that he's an asshole celebrity who is on social media all day, that's about it :)yuekit
- But his policies, to the extent he has any, are mostly just exaggerated versions of what America was already doing.yuekit
- Tax cuts for the rich, huge spending on the military, record number of lobbyists running the government...that's supposed to be "anti establishment"?yuekit
- Trump offends liberals and people in the media because of his personality, but he has done nothing to challenge any of the power structure or vested interests.yuekit
- Sanders on the other hand...like I said above, I don't expect him to pass all of his big welfare programs. But what I do think he would do is finally sever theyuekit
- link between big business and government, which is really just corruption.yuekit
- We don't have a good idea of what a non-corrupt, non-corporate controlled government would even look like at this point, it's been going on for so long.yuekit
- i dont think trump is very different. but he sheds the illusion of identity. he pisses off boths sides. pisses off the war hawks and the globalists********
- i dont think sanders gives a shit about severing anything. he's an egotist looking to be boss. plenty he can do locally or with his role but does nothign except********
- raise money for his campaign and name. he wouldnt separate gov / corps. he wouldn tighten the control. he'd be more facist in controlling economy********
- based on what he has said he would do********
- i get it trump is pretty shitty, but still mroe excitign and some stuff he has done has been great a status quo rep/dem would never touch.********
- but to be polarized to switch to somehting non him becuase lack of quality candidates. well i jsut dont think the scroch earht is a good policy********
- Can you name some examples of what Trump has done that isn't standard GOP policy?yuekit
- You're right that on foreign policy, he hasn't literally started another ground war or invasion. Pretty low bar there :)yuekit
- But he's still kissing up to Israel and Saudi Arabia, same as any other US president. Still waging economic warfare against "bad guy" countries like Iran, Cuba,yuekit
- China, Venezuela. Obama was arguably more "anti establishment" than Trump on this issue since he was willing to make peace with Iran and end the blockadeyuekit
- on Cuba. Which Trump stupidly reversed in both cases.yuekit
- Another example, one of the worst conflicts in the world right now is what is happening in Yemen. Millions of kids dying from hunger and disease in a pointlessyuekit
- war which we as US taxpayers are funding for some reason. The mainstream media hardly talks about it.yuekit
- Bernie Sanders is the one who fought and successfully passed legislation to stop funding this, even in a Republican controlled Senate.yuekit
- And it would have ended US involvement...except that Trump vetoed it. So consider that your assumptions about who stands for what might be wrong.yuekit
- https://www.defensen…yuekit
- alot of what you mention began under obama.. as far as trump policy i mentioned before to you a list and why i personally liked it********
- and im all about getting the US out of protectionary wars of power. yemen an example. but bernie is far different than say ron paul on conflicts.********
- he sees wasted money that could be spent feeding a legion of peons. vs the real big issues of role and ends. there is nothing behind bernie of any substance********
- except his desire i think to be a cliffnote in history. he's a populist as is trump, but just too left for the crowd********
- a big difference is trump believes in nothing, stands for nothing. And he markets it expertly and capitalizes on it.********
- one day he can stand on one thing the next another. the marketing of the style for populism is so suberb than trying to build around one BS issue********
- hate to say it trump is suberb over even his copycats on LCD pitches. regardless all i want is the politcians to fuck off and let me live********
- without trying to tease me with incentives that were never theirs to provide. the better they function the less likely i shoudl be concerned********
- Trump is basically just a B-grade celebrity, let's not get carried away lol. Yes he's good at getting attention from the media, but American culture is full ofyuekit
- people like that, not all of which I would consider geniuses.yuekit
- not geniuses at all, but the lowest common denominator. again ill plug neil postman on insights from such media********
- allthethings1
Distract, deflect, annoy
- mg330
I love when these Republican blowhards use the "63 million Americans voted for President Trump" line without stopping to realize that he LOST the popular vote. Like, literally, more people voted for Hillary Clinton than him.
- mg331
Secondly, I cannot believe that Republicans continue to call the memorandum of the transcript a "transcript." The White House did not release a transcript. They released an edited document contained ellipses that removed specific language from the document.
IT WAS NOT A TRANSCRIPT.
- "if you repeat a lie over and over again..." more less. everybody is referring to it as transcript.renderedred
- they also keep calling it "the Ukraine" <Russia approves.sarahfailin
- but schiff also added his own interpretation right? So it wasn't quite right either... media and politics. Trump understands the mediums than the old gatekeeper********
- nopemonospaced
- The frustrating part is that the MSM keeps reporting it as a transcript. Just by typing that makes feel very Infowars, and then I want to take a shower.garbage
- And also nope @deathboy. The whole situation is pretty clear-cut. Now we just have to wait for the GOP to continue obstruction.garbage
- no garbage schiff gave his summary and later did state it was suppose to be a parody********
- there are 2 quite different narratives being portrayed on almost all the info. and different sides leaving info out that support their causes********
- i think there is less here than obamas illegal use of executive power. come on libya********
- Call me crazy, but maybe you don't understand nuance? Schiff was frustrated with how absolutely dumb it was that the memo was being posited as a transcript.garbage
- But yeah, grab at straws. RIP Gadaffi. He might have been a murderous tyrant, but at least he did it with flair.garbage
- well i can tell schiff was riffing for media. but where is the line drawn on social media post s, russian ads and what not riffing where things are obviously********
- biased and done for obsfuscation. Lets look at it evenly and objectively. Fake news is a thing, and manipulation of it also a thing********
- im in the camp this impeachment is going to become a partisan trend as is debt ceilings until its just a shrug. entertainment changes all into a show********
- again why i think trump is winning. he understand reality tv and lowest common denominators better. politics is less about********
- politics and more entertainment. most ppl care to identify with a party than the politics involved********
- Gardener0
- politics is politics, its a dirty, shady, shameful 'business'. power corrupts, don't matter men or women. it's a 'fuck all' system we all live in. life's short.********
- politics is politics, its a dirty, shady, shameful 'business'. power corrupts, don't matter men or women. it's a 'fuck all' system we all live in. life's short.
- NBQ001
- He’s such a dopeGnash
- Strange that he makes a living doing that.PhanLo
- In general all those lefty youtubers are a bit weird. Except Cody. He's cool.tank02
- who's lefty youtubers? who the hell is cody?
how the hell do you guys know any of them? lefty and righty.pango - You’ve never heard of chunk?Gnash
- Who?pango
- These people are awfulnb
- BusterBoy3
Rep. Doug Collins word salad incoherent defense of Donald Trump ahead of a House vote on impeachment. He was asked whether he agreed with Trump’s claim that his call to Ukraine’s president was “perfect,”...
“There was nothing wrong with the call. When you look at it again — frankly, the last — the problem we’re having now is exactly the last 15 minutes of this. Great oratory on a lot of things that mean nothing to this impeachment.”
“We get down to the bottom line here, I’ll let him answer that question and I’ll get back to it later. Everything that’s been thrown out here is exactly what the problem we’ve had in the discussion and this — we’ve proven the facts. We’ve talked about the law, the law wasn’t broken, they didn’t put it in the Constitution. I can yell on both of them. I can talk about both of them.”
'Murka.
- JFCRamanisky2
- doug collins is a pastor so he's a great bullshit artistdorf
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- pango4
This guy at impeachment hearing literally has money coming out of his pocket like cartoon.
