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  • R_Kercz2

    Trump: "If you take the blue states out [of Covid death count] we're at a level I don't think anybody in the world would be at."

    https://boingboing.net/2020/09/1…

    • This is one of the worst things said by an American president in history.nb
    • It shows that he doesn’t care one bit about people. He has no humanity in him. A vile, disgusting person. Burn in hell you fat fuck.nb
    • lollllcolin_s
    • "Contrary to Trump’s attempt at deflection, most coronavirus deaths since mid-June have been in red states. Now, nearly three-quarters are...Bluejam
    • ...Take out blue state deaths and we still have the second-highest death toll globally."
      https://twitter.com/…
      Bluejam
    • The winter will come to the red states, so he'll have to disown those places too. What a weird way to talk about people. Red/BluePhanLo
    • Vox video: "Why red means Republican and blue means Democrat" https://www.youtube.…R_Kercz
    • Didn't I just comment on this. Go look at cdc stats he is correct. And like my they fucked up on nursing homes which is heavily weightd
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    • And can't blame him for politicizing a stat. Everyone does against him and it's trump so I don't think he has higher moral standing to twist a topic politically
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  • stoplying2

    I have a hard time picturing any real-life undecided voters at this point.

    • I you are still undecided at this time, you are probably going to vote for Trump.utopian
    • its probably more "fuck this shit" then undecidedmoldero
    • There were a ton of people in 2016 who were like, "I don't know, I voted for Trump cause he's different, hope it works out." Can't see many of these folksmathinc
    • thinking it actually worked out.mathinc
    • Many of them don’t think.monospaced
    • i dont know man, I see a lot of support for that orange idiot, i think some think hes good while the rest are just saying let it all burnmoldero
    • I know Trump supporters that changed their minds a couple years into his term. I have to assume there are others like them who have had enough.monospaced
    • I can sort of understand voting for Trump in 2016 but it seems almost masochistic to want more of this shitshow at this point.yuekit
    • putting biden up just shows its going back to things as usual like wars and sending out jobs that a little more than 1/2 the country does not like.moldero
    • maybe trumps handling of covid will be his end thoughmoldero
    • Man I was like if Biden vs trump early in 2020 I'm not voting. Now with all this shit I'm voting trump. Enemy of my enemy is my friend
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    • He still is a better candidate than the 20 Dems they tried. They picked one with dementia and one polling at 2% +
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    • And besides trump making globalists pissed in efforts to divide country for own aims he actually has been more on the level of clinton
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    • He hasn't done major fuckups and even got some decent shit done. Besides him personally being a terrible character he hasn't done bad
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    • @moldero I don't buy the idea that Trump is anti-war somehow. I'd be very worried about what happens in the second term with Iran, or even with China.yuekit
    • explain ukit?
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    • the guy has avoided about every conflict handed. He is taking a modern approach to war. Iran, meh. China commie using labor to get our business
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    • there is sense in making manufacturing and national pride look at china 2025. however i have no clue with world economic markets, us markets and any said plan
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    • because unlike china we are not centrally controlled. globalist wanted a more central control by now, but china has won.
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    • creating very strange power struggles. trump also not part of the plan, and said peopel of influence want to get back on track no matter what
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    • but there failure to see it happening shows how little they know. take away media constant critism on stupid tweets and he hasnt done anything bad
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    • spending... probably only thign id have issue with but since powell in 2016 late backtracked i realized we wont have responsible fiscal policy ever agian
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    • I just don't buy the whole narrative at all. If you look at who supports Trump it's mostly just Republicans. 90% of Republicans support Trump, 90% voted foryuekit
    • Bush. And their voter base tends to be pretty old. So the reality is that a majority of Trump voters are the same people who elected Bush and gave us the Iraqyuekit
    • War in the first place lol. And we're supposed to believe this is some kind of anti-establishment movement? It's not, it's the same Republican party with anyuekit
    • insane person at the top. Most of the resistance to Trump comes from the fact that he is personal unqualified, not because he is threatening the elites oryuekit
    • he's going to take down the new world order or something. They did just fine with Trump tax cuts, fed money printing and corporate handouts.yuekit
    • As far as anti-war goes, sure he did not launch a major ground invasion like Bush did. But we're still involved in every single conflict we were when he gotyuekit
    • into office. In fact Democrats passed a bill that would have ended US involvement in Yemen, which is the worst conflict in the world right now, and Trumpyuekit
    • vetoed it. Strange thing to do if you're anti-war.yuekit
    • There was also a moment earlier this year after Trump assassinated
      one of Iran's leaders with a drone strike where the Iraqi parliament voted to
      yuekit
    • finally kick out the US from occupying their country. And Trump made some excuse about how Iraq first has to compensate the US for the cost of the Iraq War lol.yuekit
    • Haha it's still nothing compared to previous presidents. The assassination public has no Info about. Can't say if just but also that guy was a turd
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    • As far as yemen. I'm not fully up to date. We support yemen houthis? Who's on the coast. Not really sure democratic measure wasnt just optics?
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    • But his death toll in wR rations is so little. Also forgot he tried to be cool with no and many others
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    • Seriously fuckin phones. How the hell u turn off auto correct it's worse than my regular poor type
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    • Unit can u just give trump kudos for no war? His big wall costs less than war..
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    • Or just can't ever give trump credit where it's deserved. I know media can't. He's done some good shit but not much.
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    • He cranked up military spending to ridiculous levels so I don't think that's even true.yuekit
    • He's actually a better president in a long time. I'm wary of nationalist prop. But necessary to counter dragon.
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    • I will give Trump credit because at certain key moments he failed to pull the trigger on a bigger escalation. But if you are being objective about it, the sameyuekit
    • I hate his smug character but obama's was equally terrible. I don't like the media ividing. U gotta rember we don't have Central controlled media
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    • ...is true of Obama. A lot of people were pushing him to launch a full fledged invasion of Syria and in the end he didn't (and got criticized for it).yuekit
    • But media is saying trump creates divisions except it's them. Right now I feel and think the controlled media is the issue is division
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    • Not a president and I can imagine any other president the same routine. Atlantic gets kudos for making shit up
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    • When you really look at what is happening and not just the rhetoric, it's actually Obama who ran a more "anti-establishment" foreign policy, whereasyuekit
    • Steele dossier etc. Did tea party have this against Obama?
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    • Last election we were fed fake poll info.. well each chamber shit... But really makes u wonder about current elite and wether ppl choose them
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    • Chose trump cause they don't want the same bush clinton team
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    • Trump is mostly carrying out same policy as neoconservatives just with even less regard for international law.yuekit
    • Obama was willing to make peace with Iran and Cuba for instance and criticize Israel and Saudi Arabia.yuekit
    • Trump reversed all of that. So the "change" with Trump is not really a change from long-standing American policies, it's more like an angry old guy who watchedyuekit
    • things start to change under Obama and couldn't take it, so he comes in and reverts back to the way it used to be.yuekit
    • That's why I get annoyed by people who seem to think Trump is challenging the establishment somehow. On a personal level he pisses off a lot of peopleyuekit
    • because he's not part of the club and he's a mental case, but in terms of policies he's just giving you a more extreme version of what the establishment hasyuekit
    • always stood for.yuekit
    • See I think Obama deal on Saudis was for green tech. Walk away looking at globalists less oil filters dependence. I will congratulate iran deal
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    • But don't think it ever had any substance. More like Trump's leave in the middle east he just brokered. And did iran even keep to terms?
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    • Cuba. He just did a deal for jay-z photo ops. But really cold war is over I don't really get issues now. Yes they human traffic on doctors as exports
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    • But should we still tariff there cigars. We can but chi e uighur hair cheap without a bunch of embargos
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    • Ut ukit what policy u find so more objectionable than any past president? Notice it's all his character and not policy?
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    • And which is great because presidents should pass laws. Congress should. President shouldn't really do anything but bang secretaries
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    • Why clinton ranks up their. Reagan too because his actions just as positive as I a tions
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  • sted0

    • this guy needs to go away
      forever
      dasohr
    • Why? Because terrible speaker and news goes all big lie unobjectively
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  • imbecile3

    an unnerving amount of you appear to be happy to be pissed on.
    honestly, it's frightening. #goldenshower #watersports


    • Surely no-one on here will vote for BunkerBoy?PhanLo
    • colin_s, face_melter, PonyBoy, a few others are questionable. not sure if all of them have a vote. then there's omaha, deathboy, etc... frighteningimbecile
    • Biden is a corpse, will he be better than Trump? Maybe. He'll be a return to normal. Normal is what got Trump elected.PhanLo
    • I hate Trump, he's a horrible human being down to his very core. A construct of abuse and terror as an infant.
      A coward and a bully.
      PhanLo
    • But no-one should be excited by Biden.PhanLo
    • You just admitted to enjoying standing there being pissed on. Cool. Cool cool cool.imbecile
    • Don't kink-shame us.PhanLo
    • The whole country is getting shat on. It's a scat-fest. Smearing shit in each others open sores.PhanLo
    • I still think Trump could win.
      That's how fucked America is.
      PhanLo
    • i think all colin_s and face_melter did was point out why he might win. trump being in office in the first place just demonstrates the US is fucked either way.kingsteven
    • and biden is the alternative ffs :Dkingsteven
    • Correct me if I’m wrong but PonyBoy won’t vote for trump. He’s not that stupid or heartless.monospaced
  • colin_s3

    open question: how will you react post-election to friends / people you know who don't vote for trump or biden? will it depend on the outcome?

    asking for a friend

    • (for US people obv)colin_s
    • I don't care either way. I don't let politics effect friendships.dbloc
    • obvious lie. you have no friendsimbecile
    • @imbecile fuck you got mecolin_s
    • @dbloc I used to not let politics affect mine either...but the shit you see some of them post online now...I can't look at some of them the same way I used to.BusterBoy
    • cut themgrafician
    • lol!imbecile
    • why would anything change?
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    • As a friend: Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.palimpsest
    • I did not want to get my hands dirty by voting for Trump hoping that others with less integrity would vote for him and avoid the disaster of Biden winning.palimpsest
    • But there's too much at stake here. I might not agree with everything he stands for but I have to say: Trump2020!palimpsest
    • Definitely belittling anyone who votes for trump. Dummies.nb
    • You'd belittle a friend nb... Seems juvenile
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  • neverscared0

    • "The Chancellor of Shame rules here.
      # Evacuate Moria! "
      PhanLo
  • PhanLo2


    -
    Energised

    • I want to be a martyr don't want to be a victim,
      Be a killer with a gun so they call me a hero,
      jaylarson
  • antimotion1

    • “Here’s how I like em, and I suggest you have me the same way!”scruffics
    • “You know, there's nothing better at the end of a long day on the road than a nice warm glass of Hawaiian Punch.”monospaced
    • "How do ya like your dog?"bezoar
  • imbecile-3

  • imbecile6

    • But that what is incentive to lend? Gov SHOULD not back student loans. That policy has been the #1 reason education costs went through the roof
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    • Creates a market where everyone wants to lend to anyone regardless of risks knowing guaranteed earnings backstopped by public funds
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    • And when no incentive to provide value because no risk of reward colleges have I centives to just maximize capacity regardless of value
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    • Hence lazy rivers or packages like cable tv. The market was destroyed with one well Intended law and ruined higher edu
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    • you are the poster child for failed educationmonospaced
    • @mono just start saying "Too deathboy; didn't read." TDB;DR.garbage
    • More like the poster child for abortion rights.

      'There's a risk your brat could turn out like deathboy.'
      Continuity
    • Ha. Products of a failed education system. It's fact if u look at correlation of risk free gov back last loans. .
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    • If you do not instantly grasp the magnitude .pop pop. Of how irresponsible that legislature is and exactly who it profits
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    • Hell nothing like an indebted new slave culture
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    • Have u also ever looked at the types of comments made personally and not towards the substance of the posts?
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    • Very juvenile but oh so angry. Makes one wonder if they back basic human rights if a dictator showed up to please them
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    • And u forgot the larger part of my context. Executive power and all that
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    • And who lives and with no interests. Idiot parents?
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    • TDB;DRgarbage
    • Streets ahead
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  • colin_s-2

    Trying to figure out the logic behind Democrats always insisting the left needs to vote with them, when really it's the liberals who are spineless hypocrites whose failures of state consistently end up benefiting the GOP and/or big business.

    Like, no. You people got us to this point, and now y'all want help like, digging that hole further. Maybe it's time you realized capitalist politics with a slightly liberal stance is still fucking inhuman.

    • https://imgur.com/5y…kingsteven
    • Of course it was the voter's fault Hillary cratered. Not because she's a craven, withered, wretched, self-serving demon. That will be the plan for Joe as well.face_melter
    • You know, you Americans had a chance to actually get a progressive politician to lead the Democrats. TWICE. And both times, you fucked the dog, and got ...Continuity
    • ... Clinton in '16, and Biden this year.

      I've got no sympathy.
      Continuity
    • who would win, though? It's nice to be idealistic, but the reality is different. I don't care for Clinton or Biden, but getting enough votes for anyone else..formed
    • It's easy to be cynical but think about it this way...if the left consistently voted in every single election -- primaries, presidential, congress, local --yuekit
    • how is that not going to make the world a better place? You're not going to punish the Democrat politicians by withholding your vote, they'll be perfectly fine.yuekit
    • Between a strategy of withholding your vote until mainstream politicians somehow come around to your point of view...vs. just voting with stupid consistency foryuekit
    • the better candidate every time...it seems obvious to me that the first one is going to achieve absolutely nothing, whereas the second one would have alreadyyuekit
    • solved a lot of problems, and the balance of power in the USA would look completely different.yuekit
    • But what will someone achieve already. I don't even think u know ukit what u hope to be achieved
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    • Just anti orange man derangement
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  • Phrenological-4
  • jaylarson5

    • AOC could be the best President, even better than Obama mangrafician
    • she's on a path to get there in the not-too-distant futureformed
    • too many right wing shock jocks rotting the minds of the general public though. people hate her, like really fucking hate her.inteliboy
    • dude, running for President is not a popularity contents, idiots don't get this! Being a President means being fucking fit to run the most complex on the planetgrafician
    • complex country on the planet*grafician
    • sadly it is a popularity contest though?inteliboy
    • i hope i get to vote her in office somedayjaylarson
    • Haha for real. What part policy she stand for do u find so riveting and why?
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    • Nothing?
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    • i don't feed trollsjaylarson
  • colin_s-4

    theoretically if biden dies in year 1 there could feasibly an 11-year harris administration which just makes me want to vomit. why he couldn't have at least picked warren is beyond me.

    • unless i'm off on VP > pres rules, but i think if harris were sworn in, she wouldn't be running for re-election but rather for a first term in 2024?colin_s
    • dude I like you, but you're not fit to discuss this. A President is a mediator, not a fucking dictator!grafician
    • Dems need also the Senate to do any real change back to "normal", Reps are basically fucking evil idiots at this pointgrafician
    • running the US into the ground and also the entire fucking free world with itgrafician
    • Liberals or Dems or anyone else, can't f afford to not vote this time. 2020 was a bad year already, don't fuckin mate it a worse decade!grafician
    • make it*grafician
    • Voting for a guy that says "let's run out the hill, cuz it's awesome" is NOT a fucking option, get a fucking grip all you guys in the fucking USgrafician
    • I mean do you want fucking deathboy running QBN? Right.grafician
    • i was just trying to clarify if the VP gets 2 additional terms if the pres dies in office lolcolin_s
    • good point, vote trumpimbecile
    • Nope. If a VP takes over in the first two years in office, the VP can only see out that term and one more. After 2 yrs though, she could serve 10.BusterBoy
    • imposed by the 22nd amendment, ratified 1951imbecile
    • With Warren as a VP he'd have no chance of winning. She is extremely unpopular.zarkonite
  • grafician0

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

  • inteliboy2

    • Smart long game - oust all the two faced "bad" repubs, then fill with electable kids. Probably the only way to save the GOP, long term.formed
  • grafician4

    Imagine the US as QBN rn with deathboy as President, mumbling nonsense in every thread with every post.

    Imagine a virus that deletes accounts on this website every day randomly, nobody doing anything about it

    Imagine all the "good" users that ignore deathboy and the virus and post fun and artsy stuff in other threads and also the others that don't care and are just here for the music in the What are you listening to...thread

    Imagine we need to decide what to do with deathboy and the virus and we have 'till November to do that, but everybody enjoying the NBA and posting picture associations...

    Imagine deathboy in November starting to post nasty nasty stuff that can get QBN hosting suspended and nobody still doing nothing to say "stop"

    Imagine that fucking virus deleting all the good users in the next 3 months

    Imagine QBN ending up as a fucking wasteland of nasty trash content...just a memory of "the last amazing designer forum in history" before it gets run down with deathboy nasty stuff, chinese spam bots and the russians hacking the hosting provider to keep it all alive so they can profit in some way

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    Go fucking vote the assholes out now!

    • And I mean it now, voting is already open in half the US, November is the deadline! If you're a creative and you're missing deadlines, uuuuh buddy...grafician
    • ...you're gonna have a short career!grafician
    • Wait for debates. Don't fall into fear msm tactics
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    • Seriously though not sure what u are scared about. Your biggest fears are already a reality. Duh
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    • What really is your fear pal. HD orange man for 4 years and what has he done that bugs u more than previous?
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    • Really he has actually line item policy been better than most. And just as bad as predessors in other areas
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    • I don't like his use of executive power. The rest I find an issue isainly the media lack of objectivity. They say trump has made us look bad... Or is it them
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    • And I'd like more spending controls. But capital expansion in global issues with China is a big issue
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    • I get it. Its just not market related and it makes it a dicey option. Trump is less than Democrats on that part as well.
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    • And I'm afraid when gov finances everything u get the inevitable dictatorship. So why I respect who wants to spend less more
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    • But really my vote is a fuck u to the media most
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    • you're head is buried so far up your own ass you can hardly operate in this realitymonospaced
  • sted0


    TikTok Parent Says Clueless About $5B Fund That Trump Claims Will Help Teach 'Real' US History
    Shivdeep Dhaliwal , Benzinga Staff Writer

    September 20, 2020 11:16pm 1 min read Comments
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    TikTok Parent Says Clueless About $5B Fund That Trump Claims Will Help Teach 'Real' US History

    President Donald Trump suggested Saturday that the TikTok deal he gave his "blessing" to involved a $5 billion education fund for the United States, but ByteDance claims it didn't hear of this until media reports emerged.

    What Happened: “They are going to pay $5bn into a fund for education so we can educate people as to the real history of our country. We are getting very close to that deal,” the president had told his supporters on Saturday in North Carolina, the Financial Times reported.

    ByteDance, in a Chinese social media post on Sunday, said it was the first time it was hearing of such a fund, according to Reuters.

    • Trump will find a way to kill the deal.utopian
    • Because he lives in an alternate reality and his idiotic supporters buy property there too.mathinc
    • I still can't really figure out this play. Who the fuck cares about a vine. Why force sell. Who gains. I don't see any reason for any of this
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    • Unless til tok unlocked some secret code of manipulating masses... As far as I can tell it's jerk off material fot weirdos
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    • If China can track user locations, then I imagine it could be an issue if people in the military use the appGnash
    • ^ that would be an issue for anyone in the militaryformed
    • Supposedly it's so good at targeting it can control narrative. .. is that something we want or should educate against?. Postman since 60s always said we have
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    • Learned or been actively educated about media and how to receive it. Feels like better solutions. And is tiktok even profitable?
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    • I don't care to watch ppl. And seems mostly softcore underage shit. Feels like trend.. but that twitter is still around
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    • Isn’t facebook just tik tok?scarabin
    • In that regard, i meanscarabin
    • tik tok is coub
      https://coub.com/vie…
      sted
  • sarahfailin7


    "I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."

    • So that's 3 GOP senators saying they won't vote? Murkowski, Collins, Graham. Maybe Romney is next? I think anyone in a tight race for the senate is going to bezarkonite
    • nervous pushing for a new nominee before the election... the lame duck session, that's another story.zarkonite
    • @zarkonite, that clip is from the past, the present version of Graham is on board with pushing through a nominee. Cunts, all of them.mathinc
    • Aahhh, that's too bad. I thought maybe him being in a tight race might make him think twice. One can whish...zarkonite
    • and that wasn't redundant at all!zarkonite
    • So we can’t use his words against him in the precisely identical scenario he spelled out?monospaced
    • Would love to see this toad get fucked. Donate to his challenger. https://secure.actbl…mathinc
  • BusterBoy11

    • https://i.imgur.com/…utopian
    • Ugh the spelling and grammar Nazis. How to spell deflection
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    • marvelous ha.fadein11
    • What is she deflecting?monospaced
    • "as a blonde woman"kingsteven
    • America is fucked thread.nbq
    • shes deflecting against her comments on RGB right and dying wish and nothing about the actual policy and rule of law?
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    • she instead took to deflection very similar to mono style where instead of confronting issue you try to turn it agaisnt soemthing non related like typing or
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    • or grammar or spelling. its a very grade school idiot defense mechanism which goes to support greene's reasoning
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