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- garbage1
Posting this just for the url, what a desperate plea by a bunch of simpletons to bolster his voting base.
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I was out taking photos most of the day in my neighborhood, and then by the now-defunct CHOP, First Hill, Central District, and elsewhere. All I saw was a spark in our already out of control homeless population being joined by the recently un-housed due to this administration's complete fuck-up of C-19.
Don't really know where I'm going with this, other than "FUCK TRUMP" and apparently I'm an anarchist now?
- love that albumcolin_s
- It cuts federal funding. I'm ok with it. A bigly win********
- @db Hypothetical question, since you're in a funny mood. How do you make a bigly joke like that about federal funding when taxes from the cities listed pay..garbage
- ..for the food stamps and welfare for the MAGA fucksticks that bitch and moan about sOciALisT LiBruL CiTiEs?garbage
- Well garbage fed funds I laugh at are different from mostly state fund u are talking about********
- Those major cities just trying to skin funds to pay off useful idiots********
- And fed fund don't need to be involved in partisan bs. As u stated taxes from the cities********
- It's funny how you really don't get it. I think you should start a youtube channel.garbage
- oh i get it. the arguement is democratic states largely shutdown for politics killing all their revenue and now asking for federal bailouts. the CEO********
- of the state fucked up. no bailouts. Bailouts are shit. One of these days we will have to sleep in the bed we made********
- but if there is something i dont get just say it. not that there is anything to say or you would have said it. you say so much more than u know********
- You're addicted to being wrong, I guess. You're missing that these "democratic states" are by and large driven by these "anarchist cities".garbage
- If Seattle goes down, there goes the food stamps for half of the state that we feed by being an economic driver. But they bitch and moan about how much gas..garbage
- ..cost when they drive several hours to come to ineffectively protest the librul cities they hate. #cascadiagarbage
- Liberal cities but all the people acting are governors. Which is elected state wide.********
- But it's all politics ideally if there was no need for funds and none of this shit there wouldn't be leverage for politics********
- It's funny leverage though he's using. He gets points to show the hypocrisy.********
- english and logic be hard me not know why me try what glue is smelling best these days because?garbage
- Ha if you can't understand what I said it has to be willful ignorance or stupidity. But obviously just optic to deflect answering********
- fartgarbage
- colin_s0
this is actually ideal for the democratic party, now that romney said he'll confirm whoever trump nominates.
even if they manage to win the presidency and house (and fuck, maybe even senate)... the "oh it won't get through the courts" will be their ultimate reason for continuing to basically not legislate.
they've long since abandoned the needs of actual people and can in no way be expected to lead from here on out - it's incredibly foolish to think otherwise, given the failures and broken promises of the obama administration.
the best we can hope for is trump gets booted out of office and the violence gets quelled and then by 2022 the DNC is just a corpse of gen x'ers who for whatever reason won't become a real leftist.
- No offense dude, but from my peeped you’re closer to the fringe than the mainstream left.nb
- my *perspectivenb
- @nb oh for sure, i don't deny that. but it's also that the center of that mainstream has drifted even further right over the past 20 yearscolin_s
- Please elaborate on how they abandoned the people and continue to not legislate.brandonp
- Funny how the fringe 2020 resembles Howard Zinn in 2005. https://progressive.…kingsteven
- @brandon folding on obamacare was pretty significant. inability to pass any gun reform. guantanamo. drone strikes. i mean, most of obama was iffy at best.colin_s
- @brandonp not to mention the 2016 and 2020 DNC push against sanders, co-opting messages but generally empty in any policy measurescolin_s
- The political views of young people in USA have moved significantly to the left vs. previous generations. The idea that you'd have more Americans supportingyuekit
- socialism over capitalism is pretty unheard of lol. I think it's going to come to a head in terms of the conflict between minority institutions like the Supremeyuekit
- Court and electoral college and the views of most Americans, as baby boomers die out and Gen X and millenials become the main voting block.yuekit
- I agree with you on those moments. I've been pissed ever since they capitulated to the Republican scare machine on the ACA. Also pissed about Bernie.brandonp
- U ever thought about social media tech and how in encourages and reinforces socialism vs individualism. A new era of concentrated authority********
- @yuekit (and anyone with the same inclinations): I'm gonna stop you right there, mate. Nothing about Sanders' platform is even remotely ...Continuity
- ... 'socialist' in the true textbook political science definition. And herein lies part of Sanders, AOC & Co's problem: branding. Whilst, yes, it seems many ...Continuity
- ... younger USAers are leaning further left, to call anything about this 'democratic socialist' is really, really off the mark. If they're looking for a ...Continuity
- ... norther Europe/Canada-like transformation, then the term they're looking for is 'social democrat'. There really is a substantial difference betweenContinuity
- ... the two. One (democratic socialist) implies a planned economy, which is a completely different animal than a social democracy, in which ...Continuity
- ... it's a market economy, just a well-regulated one. And it's hardly surprising that Sanders went nowhere calling himself a dem socialist:Continuity
- because if there's one thing USAers are more allergic to than someone taking away their gunz and their freedumbs, it's anything that reeks of communism.Continuity
- The left in the US need to re-think their branding, and go from there, if they hope to make a convincing argument in the future.Continuity
- (that said, I have no doubt in my mind that the DNC sandbagged Sanders twice, but that's a topic for another thread, or set of notes)Continuity
- I agree it's confusing. But then again there are also people in Europe who call themselves socialist while in practice being social democrats.yuekit
- And there are people who actually are socialists but don't want a totally state planned economy. They would emphasize the worker ownership aspect,yuekit
- such as workers coops or giving workers a greater say in running companies. Or perhaps just a stronger role for the state in terms of things like transition toyuekit
- a green economy. So it's all over the map but the main thing is there is a lot of dissatisfaction in the USA among younger generations. A lot of them didn'tyuekit
- have the chance to become financially secure in the way their parents did. They don't have savings, own a home and in many cases are deeply in debt.yuekit
- Well, fuck, the same can be said of a loooooooot of Gen-Xers, like me. Savings? Ha! Own my own home? Get the fuck outta here. In debt? Check!Continuity
- nothing wrong with co-ops. let them compete with private companies. REI does. They charge much higher rates only upperclass can afford. Dont let that be the********
- norm. Let ev's compete with petro without subsidies. nothing you think makes thing better cant be competitive. just what u want to win doesnt.********
- meaning democratically no on is voting with their buck so u need to shove it down people throats no matter outcome********
- on one hand so sacred of corp monopoly but easily hand it over to a gov monopoly the hypocirsy is always fun********
- Continuity why no savings? Why no home. Never had an inheritance, never a big win, just basic working. So how come im fine?********
- are u not in advertising that should make at least like 35-40K a year?********
- oh i dont have kids. that's a big expenditure i avoided because i like my freedom********
- Living in your elderly mother's basement doesn't qualify as 'fine', boy.Continuity
- Oh if that's what u think. Well I'm fine. Never had a break or a handout. Just wonder why u are not fine. What are you missing?********
- What is it u think should have been given to you? What concerns or fears you feel you'd shouldn't need to carry. I think if u look and compare and ask what it t********
- Makes to remove or alleviate such things it more than likely comes from someone not u. And why should they work for your securities or hang ups?********
- But hey I'm doing well. Maybe that's why I'm less reluctant to think your jelly types deserve anything from me.********
- yuekit0
- This is some kind of new leftist group focusing on cooperation between countries beyond governments...yuekit
- new religion********
- also full of shit********
- because they hold collective right over individual rights. allowing anything really if popular. hell justifies murdering jews********
- there is no social right, no collective rights. that shit is fake and easily tested by science to be proven wrong********
- You support Trump, nationalism is "collective rights". Maybe the oldest form of collectivism there is. Build the wall!yuekit
- I don't support trump. I said I'd vote for him over the left. As far as the wall goes that collectivism is national security********
- The one single collectivist reason for a gov. The wall is a terrible idea until border is like calais. And a 5 billion one off vs trillions. Really comparing ap********
- Ples to turds********
- And that's not to even say I support the wall. But It does have merits for security. This is no different than china's approach. Just trying to group some other********
- Go back to fdr bill of rights. All collectivist rights being preached by left today. The problem is not one is a right unless u subscribe to any collective righ********
- By majority or force. Can u honestly say any of fdr's right were a "right" because it ignores who will provide said rights********
- But he'll I'll take fdr rights. Free shit. Just enslave the protestors and toss them in work camps********
- Which is the end game throughout history running collective rights ideas********
- Which is only a snake oil adage for people looking power power.********
- Every government is some degree of collectivist so trying to use it as a bright line to distinguish the two sides is kind of silly.yuekit
- And funny left pays homage to him . Rember term limits pit into stone cause oh his commie ass********
- I would say the right is moving further and further from individualism with the focus on nationalism, anti-immigrant, anti-trade and "strong" leaders.yuekit
- Including the guy you are voting for. So this seems like kind of a dated argument.yuekit
- yea but that right is the left with few different nuaces. think how many times obama used EO and was called on to use even more.********
- but that isnt the arguement. its collective rights vs individual rights. both use collective right logical fallacies to support own aims********
- fuck trumps new black plat shit. collective special interests. terrible as fuck. but i have a bit of schreedenfreude whatevs in watching media suffer for his wi********
- n and well less ideologically imposed to believing collectives rights are all and everything. uses it to sell without belief i respect more than sanders type********
- seriously man should read road to serfdom. i think u'd like it********
- Ukit why get all shy when in a corner?********
- mg333
READ TWICE. You can also listen to the article read aloud on the Soundcloud link at the top of it.
The Election That Could Break America
If the vote is close, Donald Trump could easily throw the election into chaos and subvert the result. Who will stop him?- Nobody, the left thinks the pen is mightier than the sword, but when the masses are illiterate, the sword is the only option._niko
- But who is correct in perception of illiterate?********
- PhanLo5
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by Woodrow White
- ideaist2
Same as ^
Really great / nice find @PhanLo; oozing character!
- ~ http://www.woodrowwh…ideaist
- Ah cheers for the link, so many good ones on there! Style's amazing tooPhanLo
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Let's look at facts. Fauci said no reason why voting is unsafe. And yet democratic gov insist on adding to deficits the cost of mailing out ballots to any "registered" voter and in some states even ignoring signatures where as other don't even need a location to be sent. So if health is not an issue and doing it at great expense must mean different motives right? Is it blind faith and hope by trying to make it more accessible for youth with parents or game system. Even have nba china push on location with celebs. But at least we can squash covid-19 scare which makes me wonder it it was the whole point in the first place. Very opportunitive. And emergency powers with covid also allowed governors to over step into secretary of states domain and control them... But the biggest question to me is who and why such optics for an election is taking place. Any reasonable person sees it suspect as fuck and going to question it's integrity. So who's anti us so pissed and rather it burn if they can't control? It's things like that which make me vote trump this year. I hate his smug character as much as obama's. But I have never seen such it's either this way or fuck everyone from a party before. Idea of stacking judges or more impeachment. It's absurd.
- You lost me at the first line. If you think that's all Fauci said, you're a halfwit mate.BusterBoy
- You really want four more years of this. Four years of stupid tabloid headlines and controversies.yuekit
- Because media feeds it's. Fuck them. I'm more dick of them and there division********
- Buster yes he said safe if with masks and 6 ft apart********
- Thought it was implied since illegal not to these days********
- The thing ukit is the irrational exhuberence of the left is scary as fuck. I'll take another 4 years of trump over their new ideologies. They historically cance********
- Who know with another 4 years of trump and anti trump mindset china will rule us all********
- But I don't like the left instagram nature of whatever is tiktok hot nonsense and with no philosophy behind anything********
- Hell the straight forward stack judge shit shows they are no better and probably worse than trump********
- Take his vanity over there power hungry little paws. I actually think they believe they have it in the sac. Which is spooky********
- Means actions and covid funds are bigger picture. Trying to inflate budget far past trump levels********
- Am I incorrect in seeing the partisan measures?********
- I dunno man, even putting all the politics of liberal and conservative aside, I just want this to end. It's like a 24/7 Jerry Springer show.yuekit
- So much time wasted focusing on this one attention seeking TV celebrity. The entire world wants it over, but a minority of voters in the US has the power toyuekit
- keep it going. And after this what, Donald Trump Jr? Ivanka Trump? Kayne West? It's never gonna end lol.yuekit
- You should listen to Bill Weld, who I think you said you were supporting earlier this year. That is someone who is actually intelligent and principled.yuekit
- Bill Weld isn't voting for Trump, in fact he endorsed Biden.yuekit
- Well he also endorsed clinton on johnson ticket. I like him. He has political charisma.********
- And I'm totally as tired as this spilt nation divisiveness is at u. But Biden isn't key. Truth is this is beginning********
- Take so many left Trump's and success. Realize ent Trump's policy. People don't care about policy. I'll take 4 more years of trump and see if ppl********
- Come to any sense. I don't think at all he will go xi or Putin. And his policy has been pretty good********
- The division by mainstreamedia in one sided hit jobs though... I will admit if like a little redirective narrative to peace********
- But. I don't think it's peace. I think it's fringe political shit akun to bsjeviks. Take CA banning gas card. On what reason?********
- These cunts are all about power no matter the suffering********
- It's not a novel arguement. But the way I see it. I share your same sentiment. I just see different s in removing it********
- Also be great if media didn't act like every tweet with spin was huge. Maybe ignore tweets. Focus on legislation. Effects and such. Remeber congress is more imp********
- Than Freudian slip chasing their emperor********
- And none of any of that goes to the manipulations be pulled for elections that have very large negative effects. As I said hard to believe any outco.e********
- The lengths to undermine all semblance of legit system undermines everything. And it's not trump calling it out. It common sense********
- Gonna be hard for public to accept such after this with preemptive media protocols and censorship********
- And nothing is done non partisan. It's all very one sided********
- i do think ukit your are being nieve, as much as i am. im trying to delay the inevitable u are embracing it. i just think i understand it better. im far********
- less emotion driven an cynical, give me a different view of things********
- I think the reason Bill Weld opposes Trump is because Bill Weld is a liberal Republican, classical liberal. Who believes in certain principles like individualyuekit
- rights, personal freedom, free trade. And he recognizes, correctly I'd say that Trump doesn't believe in any of these things.yuekit
- id agree. trump believes what is popular but from conservative side... but maybe media talking********
- his sc picks pretty moderate, his policies he tried actually very libertarian.********
- in 4 years did he block roe vs wade or restrict personal freedoms?********
- i think he did more for personal freedom than obama********
- look at education with devos and pushing for charters.thats choice. allowing no penalty for health insurance. thats choice********
- i also thought bill weld was a sheep in wolf clothing. but he could talk and impressed by his historical knowledge. i think trump in new in not hiding intention********
- weld, biden clinton bushes obamas, hide our "intentions" albeit clearly known. it ruffles feathers. i cant honestly say if its best method********
- but i also dont think media critizes him properly about being self interested. i actually believe he cares more so than other presidents.********
- i also wonder if that is a charm media cant figure out********
- and i popped a new question for u. something mulling over see your thoughts as a NON SIDE NOTE!********
- I think when Trump says let's bring back torture, throw this person in jail, this newspaper should be shut down, or maybe I won't step down even if I lose theyuekit
- election...which he just said today...that tells you the reality of his views and what you're voting for.yuekit
- It's not libertarian. It's actually much more like China, authoritarian capitalism or state capitalism. In China you do have economic freedom, in some casesyuekit
- more than in the USA, but there's no real individual rights and if the state wants to seize your company they can.yuekit
- If you are causing trouble or not being sufficiently "patriotic" the government will single you out and come after you.yuekit
- And of course people are constantly being bombarded with nationalistic propaganda and cult of personality about the strong leader.yuekit
- Trump can't carry out all those things, partly because the U.S. system still has some limits on the president's power and partly because he's an idiot. But youyuekit
- can see from his comments that this is basically what he believes in. And I think that's why people who actually do have liberal principles like Bill Weld areyuekit
- against him. What is disappointing, and I think surprised a lot of people (but didn't surprise me that much) is how few Americans actually care about thoseyuekit
- principles at all. Many are perfectly happy to scrap the entire thing if you just tell them there's some terrorists or Antifa coming to get you.yuekit
- This boy has perfected his gibberish. Turd- word salad. "As useful as asking a hair dryer for advice" they say.FNP14
- yuekit thats all media headlines. he never said he wouldnt step down. and everything thing u mention trump stand for is contrived of out of context shit by medi********
- in 4 years never has the MSM given him a fair shake. he has always been the bad man. hell trump i think we can agree upon stands for nothing********
- as most politicians are that are human and just looking for job security and personal gain********
- and as media always states he stands for nothing, so how can he stand for other ideals they list?********
- and its the measures of media, promises from elected officials on left and their scorch earth mentality that has made me realize its them that is the issue. not********
- trump. nor is trump a fix. hes a stop gap from a collective left, in what appears to be a media feedback loop. saw it in 2016 at results and it has only progre********
- ssed since. I like bill welds historical knowledge, charisma, but i also recognize he has no philosophy. he bends in the wind. hes a politician, and as good as********
- good as obama if not better because his historical knowledge and broader understanding. why i voted the ticket.********
- and the antifa or terrorist is a fear gimmick. same way as SS, job security, insurance, education, etc etc. ppl are motivated by fear.********
- the lefts fear is so much more worse than the right. becuase programs installed (especially that last longer than person who installed them) are usually built********
- to fail. they give or promise more than is possible. and they are always leveraged by politicians out of fear. the gamblers double down********
- and cant walk away mentality until broke. where as rights fear is more honest and less destructive********
- you cant have an endless ware raising taxes without equally people being pissed. which is the point of gov. secure all. not some socially.********
- and to my main point. fauci the guy trump gets heckled to ignore says in place voting perfectly safe. so why all the new procedures never tested from state to********
- state. https://madison.com/…********
- a bit interesting. similar to our dem gov who used covid emergency powers to allow ballot harvesting. sec state tried to plea ok but if you turn in more than********
- 5 you need to register your affiliation or group and got nixed. seems pretty bipartisan. and i think common sense people thinking wtf. the acts undermine all********
- confidence. just wonder if that is the point.without a doubt there is ulterior motives. acting like its in the bag like lushenko********
- see how the color revolution plays out. it was only a matter of time until our techniques used against us********
- Yeah not buying it...unfortunately I pay close enough attention to this stuff to know those are things he actually did say, and not just the media making it up.yuekit
- did u watch the actual clip? can you show me its context. what i saw was a loaded question of losing whe he denied he would lose but wait and see********
- but AGAIN. if you believe fauci and he states no reason why not to vote normal. why so much untested and controlled policy?********
- democrats are spending a shit ton (taxpayer) money on mailing out ballots and making ballot harvesting cool. why? not for the good of the ppl********
- Haha Trump himself voted by mail just last month
https://www.npr.org/…yuekit - You're falling for some very transparent and obvious propaganda here. There's no evidence for ballot harvesting or anything like that.yuekit
- The Republican party is sending out mail in ballots...wow they must be in on the conspiracy tooyuekit
- https://www.politico…yuekit
- what trump did was request an absentee ballot. it far different than producing and mailing out a ton of ballots with little oversight.********
- and i knwo my state jsut passed rules for ballot harvesting. sisolak used emergency powers to go over secretrary of state to declare rules. including allowing********
- people to turn in multiple ballots. sec state tried to get soem kind of oversight as register any affilation or anything, but overuled.********
- funny gov and emergency powers.********
- either party can get in on it and so many ways by state to game and cheat more now. 1) why if fauci said fine to vote normal? 2) isnt this undermining our********
- entire process and faith in the system. Which isn't a partisan question.********
- and go register to vote in CA. easy to get a ballot not even living there. Have a person by homeless shelter and create accounts and sent there********
- at least here we have stricter register controls, but not easy to beat with a little stolen database info which we have had a ton of. so many fake employed********
- or unemployed, probably guessing through gov databases and dmv. multiple ppl university and private i knwo had to lock down everythign and reset.********
- but that info they got is all you need to register and get votes and mroe than likely no oversight knowing gov ops********
- The part you're missing is that every ballot has to be verified and matched to the registration and ID of an actual voter.yuekit
- ah what u are missing is how that is done. some states are saying u dont even need to match signature. some dont even have signatures too match. some just********
- allow for the minnesota harvesting being investigated. but you still have yet to give a reason as too why? when gov dude says voting is safe?********
- and come on, i can register to vote in CA without id, ss, or address. what process of verification?********
- from another state!********
- Why would Democrats try to rig the election in California? That pretty much disproves your conspiracy theory right there.yuekit
- Why would you need to fake results in a state where the Republican party is basically wiped out and where Trump is losing by 30 points?yuekit
- Ugh deflection again. Why send ballots when totally fine to vote? Why deletimize the process through random states shit processes. Ie minnesota********
- I'm leaning because they know they don't have it. So burn it down. Push it towards a house or supreme court. And any trump crazy********
- Unless u have a better reason? Deligitmize cause stupid in hope to game it?********
- The big ol elephant in the room keeps being neglected********
- And I don't think it goes unnoticed.. reminds me I read an essay the other day the more educated are likely to be blinded by own bias********
- Interesting paper which I quite frankly agree with seeing the evidence********
- Or not blinded but more accepting while more aggressive to others bias. More a dopamine typical trigger. Capt wow thing. Just funny ppl********
- Ate worse s bit more info to ated in a new religion********
- Doesn't matter if you are educated or not, just requires a little critical thinking. If someone wanted to rig an election, why would you need this complicatedyuekit
- scheme of mailing out millions of ballots and hoping they somehow add up to a win for your side? Why not just falsify the results directly, if they have theyuekit
- power to do it? Would save a bit of time no? Also your original assumption about what Faucci said is wrong. He said it COULD be safe to vote in personyuekit
- if safety measures are put in place. But that people who are more at risk might still be better off voting by mail.yuekit
- https://reut.rs/3n1u…yuekit
- That article talks about how the fake news version of this was shared thousands of times on Facebook, and I guess you were part of that audience.yuekit
- Gotta be careful man, lots of people trying to trick and manipulate you and of course Trump is #1 at this.yuekit
- so people at risk and scared could request absentee voting? you still dont explain why. when defined as safe to mail a ton of ballots and deligitimize what we k********
- and the "could" following rules. SO again WHY?********
- personally im between ignorance hoping fro fraud and well hope.. or defensive maneuver to deligitmize and force it to house or courts********
- ambitions of a pelosi? i don't see any objective reasoning towards it all. and hell can jsut be monkey see monkey do with no method to the madness********
- but i think that needs to be focused on. and as far as critical thinking goes. how does one develop such a sense when told to think a certain way or be censored********
- come on in the article i mentioned wasnt about critical thinkign skills it was towards how the herds think.********
- and jsut pointed towards higher education creates more bias which reduces questioning, which i guess necessitates critical thinking for judgement********
- lol, it's not any more complicated than...there is a virus epidemic, people didn't know how bad it was going to be in November and still don't,yuekit
- Democrats were trying to make it safer for people. They are doing it in California and other big liberal states where there is no possible reason to steal theyuekit
- election. Could there be problems with huge number of mail in votes? Of course. But it won't necessarily benefit Democrats, it could just as easily be that tooyuekit
- many ballots get disqualified and it helps your side.yuekit
- yea its not complicated "the virus epidemic" has been cured for most things. wear a mask social distance head viral guy says voting in person not an issue********
- the question is if you believe all this why all the new measures? why not just request absentee based on age?********
- im asking why the change when no need or desire. Did we hear people say im scared to vote?********
- i think you are being a little obtuse about the reality of the situation.********
- OR is politics involved, with a large amount of stupidity?********
- and a big part is on hopes to capitalize its ignored everything is deligitmized...or the point. i can ttell if stupidity or big plan********
- i just think its all dumb as fuck based of todays known evidence********
- I honestly don't know how it will shake out. Only point I'm making is the idea that it's a giant conspiracy to rig the vote is some Alex Jones level idiocy.yuekit
- When you vote by mail there is a physical record of every vote. Voting in person in most cases you are pressing a button on a machine. In many states there isyuekit
- no paper trail or independent verification at all.yuekit
- If you really think the government is so corrupt and evil that they would fake the results of the election, it seems kind of obvious that the second scenarioyuekit
- would offer them greater opportunity to do that. Mail in ballots can be audited or even challenged in court. And perhaps if Trump loses he will do that andyuekit
- string you guys along for years, just like he did with the Obama birth certificate thing.yuekit
- U call me conspiracy. But where is the rational motive to push such efforts? There is a basic narrative and it doesn't jive with reason.********
- Yes trump can contest courts etc but why. Why would Democrats push for agenda to deligitmize election********
- When it's absolutely unnecessary. Either ignorance or motive********
- To be honest looking at most democratic state people I can't tell. More than likely ignorance********
- In my state I could get access to so many ppls Ss and info. Everyone been hacks and info sold for unemployment********
- Here the first vote that comes in counts. Hence early voting and submission trump other legit voters********
- If u vote and got a vote already on u you are cut. But each state has oh so many weaknesses. Typical of most but being pushed this year********
- To levels of layman not excepting it. That is not good for the nation********
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hey ukit. Here's a thought. The general left is going for state expert/science as rule to follow. I wonder if it due to innate nature and insecurities of most people. What was mostly managed by faiths and religion had created a vacuum. Something of un fulfillment and fear of... climate change or any damnation made up. There is something comforting to most people to believe someone has everything planned for them and future. are todays staticians left leaders the new prophets?. i think there is a decent thesis piece on this
- I'd love to read your thesis on this topic. You have 'specialist' written all over you.Ianbolton
- Science is comforting because to date it is the only practice that has given us any answers on the subject. Religion never even touches on it.monospaced
- In fact, science is the only thing to date that humans have found that can help determine answers to anything. Religion doesn’t do anything like that.monospaced
- Scientist aren’t prophets. They don’t make unsubstantiated claims that they can’t back up. The comparison is ridiculous.monospaced
- man that holds a belief that an economic system designed to inhibit trade between a merchant class in the middle east thousands of years ago andkingsteven
- redefined by early 20th century naturalists as pseudo-scientific anti-communist ideology is a 'natural system' has problem with actual science. shocker.kingsteven
- but i look forward to your thesis "how nature inhibits the natural system of economics" - sounds like a hootkingsteven
- Hmm point being missed. Science/expert/stati... not all the same nor does a title mean shit. Yet you think a science that says something you dont understand********
- must be infallible and correct. Plenty of scientific papers, stats out there no one agrees on. Same objective measures of titles.********
- But you cling to your hope, or faith in your preferred promises by your new scientific prophets.********
- which we see is the obvious case. you have all displayed it. its not even a question. my hypothesis is religion or salvation in a beleif might be hard coded for********
- most humans. As we see general church numbers decline we are seeing mroe and more crazy "science" believers. 12 years until death is like end of day shit.********
- makes me wonder if religion is a better choice of value structures in controlling the innate behavior of some humans. it has parables and value, where the other********
- is fear with no aim. We all know a fear of death is motivation to live. Is the thought of dying too much for some brains has to put up firewalls. And the fire********
- walls present themselves in basic ignorance to an authority that promises them salvation because if you ask me that is bliss as fuck********
- and since most knowledge now is mostly people having an opinion about something with 0 critical thinking skills. why not science. religion was the science of it********
- days. just new "progressive" believers and flocks********
- its actually so simple saying i tout loud im sure plenty written on it already********
- oh and haha -16. rating systems are funny. they also tell you alot********
- Nobody said science is infallible. It is in fact always improving. It makes mistakes and it fixes them. Unlike religion.monospaced
- Ha your definition is no matter what its always positive and needs to be followed?********
- When do you ignore science?********
- What scientist do u choose to follow when they have different science?********
- You are just proving my point********
- db, i'm sure you've seen my posts in the covid thread that describe exactly the phenomenon of scientific policy vs theory and the social science of compliancekingsteven
- i'm just having a laugh at the lack of self awareness of you philosophising a belief system while not addressing that you're specifically talking about policykingsteven
- that inhibits the freedom of markets and therefore your own belief system.kingsteven
- Uh what are u thinking I'm talking about dude. None of anything I wrote deals with market forces u loon. It has to do with human nature substituting science for********
- Religion. A vacuums gets filled. And I have no idea of your theories buddy. If I recall u are the not very bright commie. Set in his ways and says wack shit********
- Like this. I do t even think u understand your own philosophies u follow. Just following for the sake of it********
- you hold a belief in the invisible hand of the market, yes? that is social science that is disputed, yes? would you like to explain how that is different fromkingsteven
- a belief in global warming?kingsteven
- invisible hand we have seen throughout history. logically makes sens, but culturally it can also fail making it not a hard science********
- but i go by its track record. global warming. we'll fix and call climate change because any warming is balanced with a decrease. lots of data reports but********
- very poor track record and very short modern history of what like 50 years? where as capitalism much longer.********
- i mean many geologists do counter climate change alarmists and point to carbon dating and other objective measures where climate********
- changed dramatically on larger scopes. Hell most scientists believe pre industrial civilizations mayans were decimated by climate phenomenon********
- with that said i dont not believe in climate change. think its silly to think such things. but equal to or more i think peopel have solutions to "solve" climate********
- change or control. can man control the seasons as well? infinite summer? think about the hubris involved. as same as hubris involved in every culture that tries********
- to control a free market organic system thinkign theyre smarter than something they are only a single point of. never gettign it lives bigger than them, same as********
- climate********
- i mean, i'm not trying to say that one is right and the other isn't ... but the most commonly touted 'solution' for climate change is an end to capitalismkingsteven
- due to it's inability to act to the benefit of society in terms of limiting environmental damage. wouldn't man made climate change be incompatible with yourkingsteven
- belief in the invisible hand? and therefore as worthy of ridicule for exactly the the same reason you deride a belief in science?kingsteven
- im not a commie or a socialist btw. but i am interested in your motivations in limiting yourself to a particular school of free market theory in the same way askingsteven
- you are interested in peoples belief in 'science' - given your absolutism in underpinning concepts such as govt market regulation and egoism and your inabilitykingsteven
- to embrace the cognitive dissonance needed for consideration of alternative theories you do come across as at best non-scientific and perhaps cultish.kingsteven
- When scientists disagree, the only known process to figure out who is right or wrong is more science. That is what science means you fucking retard.monospaced
- If your conclusion is "science is as stupid as religion" when there is an incorrect or incomplete scientific understanding, then you are in fact the idiot.monospaced
- Do yourself a favor and learn about what science is, what the scientific process is, and what the community has in place to ensure science is always improving.monospaced
- Thing is, there is no "belief" in science. There is science, and it's real and true whether you want to accept it or not.monospaced
- Thing is, you actually rely on and accept the majority of all science to keep you alive and well every day. To deny only small parts of it is idiotic.monospaced
- hahaha king you sir are an idiot. capitalism is to blame for allowing peopel to get what they want. not what they need. and that is no phones, not electiricty********
- and live in mudhuts as all other civilizations ruined by climate change...********
- mono you are also stupid. you clearly are thinkign the term science as omnipotent truth. when its really nothing. science of 80s graphic design?********
- in the case of climate change the only science is data models. which is more statistics than science since there is 0 objective truth. Not hard science********
- depending on data and grants and interpretation you get a result... did you notice every model has been incorrect? but "science!" its infallible.********
- jsut admit your a fuckin tool on your science hangup instead of constantly reinforcing it********
- And still no ukit. Wonder why. I think it touches a little to close to home and challenged retain contsructs********
- Starting to see a pattern********
- i was talking hypothetically, even put a wee caveat at the start. but if that is how you want to respond. i'll just assume i'm right and that climate change iskingsteven
- incompatible with your political thought.kingsteven
- anchoring your argument hypothetically around an unsourced or defined argument. get called out on it. get butt hurt. reinforces own bullshit********
- haha come on buddy please explain how climate change is incompatible with political thought. i think politically different than u and accept climate change is********
- "real". so is the incompatibility due to what i think is objectively reasonable considering economies and freedom or what you hop could be?********
- and i say hope because there is no objective measure or requirements to "ease" climate change. And what it will do to people.********
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Ars Technica: "Justice Department sends its Section 230 rewrite to Congress"
- sarahfailin10
Trump gets booed at RBG's funeral as crowd chants "Vote Him Out!"
I love this so much. The guy never appears before a crowd that is representative of actual Americans. He never has to hear what anyone other than Fox-News-Conservatives have to say about him. What a fuck-ass.
- happened just this morning.sarahfailin
- Every "boo" inverts his peepee by another centimeterFNP14
- ^to -20cm :-)PhanLo
- good ole Schadenfreudejaylarson
- Deliciousscarabin
- nb1
Reading the Wikipedia article on Amy Coney Barrett makes me far less afraid of her than most of my friends seem to be.
On one hand, there is the unknown position on abortion (she has never ruled on a case of this nature, so we just don't know. But it's scary.) I assume she has told Trump she is anti-abortion, which I also believe Trump is, and this is why he picked her. However, keep in mind that a judge can be at the same time anti-abortion while understanding that it is legally protected.
Here are some quotes from her that ease my mind:
"My personal church affiliation or my religious belief would not bear on the discharge of my duties as a judge."
"It is never appropriate for a judge to impose that judge's personal convictions, whether they arise from faith or anywhere else, on the law."
She endorsed the Catholic Church's teachings on human sexuality and its definition of marriage as between one man and one woman BUT when asked about the letter, she testified that the Church's definition of marriage is legally irrelevant. This is true, and the kind of statements I like to hear from judges.
She's obviously not what I want, I think the next president should pick (if only because Republicans forced this with their bullshit last round.) But, hey, if she gets on the bench, not the end of the world.
Let's all take it easy a little bit. Try to chill.
- She worked for Scalia. You may not have liked everything Scalia said, but he was a decent judge.nb
- eh dems didn't control senate last round. part of the balance of power. and she isnt bad. better than the deceased by a mile. not very interested ppl who think********
- the constitution is lacking in social equality shit. because that all but relative. and ones social equality is not anothers. its great because its axioms********
- Constitution gets amended. It’s meant to be a living document, dbGnash
- Deathboy is obviously an idiot, just ignore him.nb
- it can get amended but needs to be sound. ginsburg reasoning is not sound********
- special rights for some and not others. i mena unless your black and property right?!********
- but if u want to try to explain how private agreements of people can have special abilities for lawsuit based on gender go ahead********
- seems arbitrary and special interest as fuck but convince me otherwise********
- Aren't these all just quotes from confirmation hearings where she has to reassure the other side? What's she going to say, "yes I am a religious fanaticyuekit
- actually." Of course there's a reason why conservatives go to such great lengths to get these people appointed.yuekit
- Ok, but all we can really go on is her words and her track record. A lot of people want to pretend they know what she’ll do, despite no evidence to suggest it.nb
- Republicans supporting her means little at this point. They have openly stated they will confirm ANY nominee trump makes. It’s a moot point.nb
- Yeah but the reason she was picked is because she has a track record of extremely conservative rulings. Moving the courts in a right-wing direction isyuekit
- something the GOP has been working on for a long time. They keep tabs on all the judges, and apparently this woman is their top pick. Trump himself has veryyuekit
- little to do with it. He's just nominating the people they want him to.yuekit
- What are these extremely conservative rulings you speak of? I have not seen them! Honest question.nb
- i think Conservatives are putting too much hope in the life expectancy of males over 50 in general... Heart Disease, Cancer, Prostate Cancer, Colorectal Cancerjonny_quest_lives
- Falls, Stroke, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, Diabetes, Influenza and Pneumonia, Suicide, Kidney Disease, Alzheimer’s Diseasejonny_quest_lives
- so 1 to 3 openings in the court within 4 to 8 years would not be surprising. Also I wouldn't cry if the Democrats raised the number of justices to 11...jonny_quest_lives
- Mitch McConnell made it a totally justifiable option by not even bringing Merrick Garland's Nomination to a vote in the Senate.jonny_quest_lives
- @nb https://www.pfaw.org…yuekit
- https://www.politico…yuekit
- But regardless of her individual track record, simply having a 6-3 conservative court (made up of pretty extreme conservatives) is the main issue.yuekit
- John Roberts, who was appointed by George Bush, would mostly vote with the other conservatives but would occasionally side with liberals to reach a moreyuekit
- moderate decision. Now they won't even need his vote.yuekit
- 6-3... 5-4 already wins right and as we have seen. Pretty moderate. And ukit right wing is the good wing that isn't malformed. Left is a slow cancer********
- Simply because it is focused on collective rights. Which negates individual rights and takes a huge step backwards in western enlightenment********
- But than again no real party of anything. Look at trump giving special rights in platinum package for blacks. U can either respect individual rights or allow********
- Some gov to exercise collective rights through sham systems. And when u go that route almost all suffering is justified********
- Uighurs in china. Justified. Jews justified. Slavery justified. (Logical hoop was classification as property, not about actual individual rights) but would tota********
- Ly just if a majority could benefit and vote for it. Or a leader to exec order it.********
- That's the problem with collective rights because it is a logical fallacy a contruct********
- Ignoring deathboi posts as usual. I’m still waiting to hear about these cases where she ruled politically to the right rather than on legal merits.nb
- Check out the links I posted aboveyuekit
- reason.com covers a lot of them as well********
- But the fear of 6-3 ignoring current 5-4.. no one gonna tough that hysteria shit huh?********
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What nothing on Trump's platinum plan? Well I think it's dumb as fuck. Liberal political pandering.
- I don't think liberals in the US would be that blatant. This is more like Hugo Chavez or something hahayuekit
- Haha actually they are always that blatant and much more hugo chavez. Can't get more blatant than barfly, warren, sanders types. Anything to keep a job********
- Curious if people are in a dilemma to support it or say it's full of shit and shouldn't be impemented. Probably waiting for media talking points to repeat********
- looks like a dilemma cant even form own opiniions********
- Ha who was it that talked about fro t page need vs burying it********
- Similar to peace agreements...********
- But why so quiet... Funny how ppl are triggered through group think to think stuff has value and vice versa********
