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- PhanLo-1
Why are Trump folk now getting angry with Braindead Biden that the troops are coming home? Isn't that what Trump wanted to do when he made a deal with the Taliban to release the 5000 prisoners that are currently taking over Kabul?
There's no pleasing some people.
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- https://www.theguard…PhanLo
- Trump pressured Pakistan to release Abdul Ghani Baradar in 2018 in an effort to negotiate with the Taliban. Baradar now leads this iterartion of the Talibanjonny_quest_lives
- Baradan signed the Dohar agreement committing to discussing a power share agreement with Afghan government led by Ghani.jonny_quest_lives
- Trump4Lifeutopian
- 'braindead biden'?sarahfailin
- That's how politics work, lame.********
- Blame game is a flat circleFNP14
- jonny_quest_lives1
mmmmm Pepperidge Farms remembers....
- Intelligent nations = the one who meets the Talibans********
- Intelligent nations = the one who meets the Talibans
- colin_s2
The American media is going to make this Afghanistan thing into Trump voters vs liberal dems / the Biden admin, even though Trump would have withdrawn troops faster and created the same situation. And it's really on neither of them from the get-go at least.
The thing is, this was inevitable. Obama should have pulled the plug on this thing in his first term. It was always gonna be a failure and someone was always going to get stuck with the bag on it.
Biden is fucking this up masterfully though, for what it's worth.
- this will be the new benghazi, in that there will be enough misunderstood foreign policy to just wage pundit wars that only drive people more insanecolin_s
- Let's just forget the fact the orange cunt said earlier this year the withdrawal should have been done quicker.BusterBoy
- Biden has already shown how wretched he is by utterly ignoring Jamal Khashoggi's murder after shitting out nonsense about hUmaN RIghtS during the election.face_melter
- I thought trump signed for this pull-out 14 months agoscarabin
- He did. But his supporters struggle to read and make sense of basic concepts, so his claims overwrite any shred of info they might have. Imonospaced
- Biden is not fucking anything, he's doing what should been done long ago. Obama little fuck.********
- yes trump signed up for this, which he should have - that's the thing, we should be out of there. but biden's handling of it has been hellaciouscolin_s
- there is no point of blame because the entire thing was wrong to begin with - at least after the first couple months. the blame will be used to dividecolin_s
- No 'normal' person was for it. It's all just the same ol' war machine, funnelling trillions into weapons, etc., etc. It's pathetically sad and 100% Washinton.formed
- PhanLo1
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- PhanLo4
Made up for it with the paintings.
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- PhanLo0
1993, good lad.
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- _niko2
It’s an absolute shitshow, but if afghanis can’t be bothered to fight and die for their country then why should the west?
The Afghan army had far superior numbers, weaponry and a fucking Air Force and they just let the taliban walk right in without a fight.
Corruption is rampant, soldiers weren’t paid or fed and given no bullets apparently. I guess the taliban were the better option for them.
- Wait until you see the upcoming scandals related to the Afghan war from all the western powers involved lolgrafician
- Also calling it a "blitzkrieg" would be an understatement, as these guys took the entire country in a few days, zero resistance, fastest occupation in historygrafician
- wait until the tala-lads get into those jets, kamikaze fun all around...shapesalad
- ^Krassy
- colin_s-2
HE BLAMED THE FUCKING AFGHANS
BIDEN BLAMED THE FUCKING AFGHANS
oh my fucking god
- Bless him, he does have senile dementia....shapesalad
- he spent 10 minutes saying how it's all their fault! the fucking cowardice and gall of this man. whatever policy wonk thought up this line should be shotcolin_s
- Well George W. Bush paints silly pictures now and Dick Cheney is living off his KBR profits...jonny_quest_lives
- Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics and Northrop Grumman did stellar returns these past 20 years. To the moon numbers.jonny_quest_lives
- Fuck the Afghans, their country or most of it belongs in soul and mind to the Taliban.********
- ..yeah, thats why millions of people are currently freaking the fuck out and trying to escape. Educate us more on the impending Afghan Diaspora sequel.garbage
- colin_s-1
"this should have been done five years ago" yeah well you were VP shoulda done it then you fucking cunt
can't believe this senile dipshit got elected
- Trump was all for it but didn’t do anything either. At least biden is doing something.monospaced
- Batshit Biden forgot to wind down Guantanamo too, maybe he'll remember this time.PhanLo
- @mono trump got it started w/the taliban talks. i'm not saying it's one pres or another - i'm saying shirking responsibility for the fallout is cowardicecolin_s
- It’s not as simple as one man taking responsibility. Call it what you want but it’s equally ignorant to blame him for it all.monospaced
- This old man is at least more presidential and a better leader than trump.monospaced
- that better than trump thing is such a low barGuyFawkes
- set by trumpmonospaced
- colin_s0
This whole fucking war started with an incompetent president, a failure of intelligence, calamitous mistakes due to a complete lack of planning, all while blaming the wrong fucking country for the reasons behind it all, so I guess it's about fitting it ends that way too.
God these fucking politicians always find a way to outdo themselves in being cunts.
- pretty much sums it upformed
- fuck bushmonospaced
- yup. and the saudis not only got off Scott free, they continue to buy off the west_niko
- BusterBoy3
Was just a matter of which President was going to remove the band-aid. This was always going to happen whether it was Biden, Trump or Joe Bloggs as President.
This was either going to be a slow burn or complete rampant shit show...the Taliban was always going to come back. Unfortunately for Biden, he's the one left to carry the can.
But the rank hypocrisy of those on the right is laughable. Trump said earlier in the year the withdrawal should be happening faster.
So spare us the "wouldn't have happened under our watch" bullshit.
And the simple fact remains, if the Afghanis aren't prepared to fight for their own country after 20 years of Taliban suppression, then there's not much hope.
- sarahfailin1
"The fact that [Donald] Trump negotiated directly with the Taliban and cut the Afghan government out at [talks in] Doha, was a major morale hit to the Afghan government,” he said. “And then suddenly Biden announcing that the US would be leaving come what may by September 11, I think, knocked the stuffing out of the Afghan armed forces. Because if you think your government is likely to collapse in the next few weeks, you’re not going to go out and die for it.”
- Peter Ricketts, former UK National Security Advisor
- Bidden made the right call. I like his year so far.
p.s. maybe focus on helping Haiti next, that country has the worst luck in history...grafician - ^^^ 100%mandomafioso
- Bidden made the right call. I like his year so far.
- grafician-4
"We are no longer a serious people"
"What we should have been asking ourselves through four presidents’ worth of Afghanistan involvement, and 2,400 American lives (and God knows how many maimed and traumatized), and almost a trillion dollars, is this: what is our role there? What was the plan, if there ever was one? More specifically, how much are we willing to pay, in American lives and tax money, to impose (for imposing is what we’ll have to do) something vaguely resembling a liberal order in a country more than a few milestones behind us in the real-world Civilization game we’re all playing.
These are the questions a serious people, armed with all the wealth and power of global empire, ask themselves as they administer their dominion. But those are the questions we are not asking, for we are no longer a serious people."
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Living under the fear of #Taliban, the Sikhs/Hindus of #Kabul, have taken shelter n Gurudwara Karte Parvan have made an emotional appeal to the #Sikh bodies to evacuate them from Afghanistan before it is too late. These Sikh/Hindu families have preferred migrating to US & Canada
#BREAKING : Local Taliban leaders in Kabul had meeting with Afghan sikhs and hindus in the Gurdwara situated in #Kabul.
Sources in Kabul told me that the Talibans assured them Safety and security and told them not to leave Afghanistan.
- api1
Russia uses the vacuum in Afghanistan, just as they did back then in Syria. crazy times
- what they do?Krassy
- They use the geographically specific air pressure differential to power their household vacuum cleaners.shapesalad
- Maaaaaa! Maaa! Russia's using the vacuum again and I can't hear my Alvin Stardust records!face_melter
- bout time somebody cleaned up that countrysarahfailin
- Let Chyna have a go this time, after Russia and the US lost...grafician
- Chyna? what country is that?********
- GinaGuyFawkes
- @shapesalad thank you for making sense of this worldsted
- Fax_Benson1
fascinating little thread on identity and politics in the Islamic world.
