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- BonSeff0
DUDE
AMERICA IS SHOUTING FROM THE ROOFTOPS
ALL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS MUST GOfucking wild - some dipshit talking head was saying that AIG will pay back the note in 2 years and the 'tax payers will make money"
oh really
- Actually that is possible...TheBlueOne
- ...although two years might be too soon...maybe five years...TheBlueOne
- ukit0
It is really beyond me how any of you want to keep the Repubs in power with all the shit that is going down.
- I choose lifeflashbender
- // sarcasmflashbender
- hahahahahahahahaha Yeah dude, dems are completely free from any blame. You act like they've been standing ...tommyo
- outside the gates for 8 years...camping out in sleeping bags just waiting to get in so they can make some change...tommyo
- Congress has had 2 years to get their shit together. Bush vs Pelosi? I'd pick Bush. Pelosi is the biggest fuckup ever...tommyo
- and I don't even remotely like Bush. Fuck man take off your soft Gaussian blur bifocals .. all these fucks are dumb and crooked.tommyo
- crooked.
Longest post comment evah!tommyo
- BonSeff0
gah! this pisses me off so much
we are is a dire state of economic health
wars is 2 middle east countries, and the mention of raising taxes is taboo... wtf!we have to raise taxes across the board. i swear. both obama and mccain are preaching the solution like its all good.
america has to pay for this shit, jesus- i am an art major and i can see this..
- hi grammarBonSeff
- they can spend all they want and build up national debt. the gov't doesn't have to pay for shit.flashbender
- poolio0
Son of a black man, and a white man... ?
- flashbender0
"We're going to reform how Wall Street does business and put an end to the greed that has driven our markets into chaos," McCain said. "We'll put an end to multimillion-dollar payouts to CEOs who have broken the public trust. We'll put an end to running Wall Street like a casino. We'll make businesses work for the benefit of their shareholders and employees, and we'll make sure your savings -- IRA, 401(k) and pension accounts -- are protected."
-John McCain
So he's pretty new to the senate then? He didn't have an opportunity to do this earlier in his career?
- See "Five, Keating Scandal"TheBlueOne
- And Carly Fiona is working for his campaign, she got $42 mil for running HP into the ground.DCDesigns
- TheBlueOne0
"Republicans lowered my taxes, and will keep them low. But the value of my home has dropped 20%, my health insurance costs have doubled, gas costs $4 a gallon, and my investments are in the tank. Please, tax me."
- comment on CNN
- TheBlueOne0
McCain has just succeeded in insulting Spain by not knowing where it is or knowing who it's president is:
- he'll form a committee to get that answered. This after he mocked Obama for "campaigning in europe"flashbender
- fuck spain and it's nice food, wine, weather and women.lowimpakt
- hallelujah0
Favorable/Unfavorable
CANDIDATE FAV UNFAV NO OPINION
MCCAIN 46 46 8
OBAMA 56 35 9
BIDEN 50 32 18
PALIN 42 46 12Palin's -4 and McCain's neutral does not match up with Obama's +21 and Biden's +19. In our tracker, Obama's gone from +9 to +15 with women, from 9/11 to 9/18. Neither Wall Street nor Walmart is saying "Get Palin on the phone."
That means that you can like Palin and not want her anywhere near the WH, especially as McCain looks old and tired and on the wrong side of the regulation argument. In addition, Republican George Bush's lack of leadershipis reflecting on Republican John McCain and Republican Sarah Palin.
It will take a Dem win before people understand that what's good for the Republican base does not translate into what's good for the electorate as a whole. What really happened, as one of our astute commenters noted, is that McCain went for personality (POW and Palin) and missed the opportunity to emphasize mavericky-ness and leadership. And now that consumer confidence is plunging, the lifetime deregulator (McCain) is having trouble re-inventing himself overnight (see McCain: Change You Can Believe I Came Up With Yesterday.)
And remember, McCain and his old boy's network want to put Social Security in the hands of the people managing the Wall Street debacle. Joe Conason:
This populist rhetoric sounds strange, especially when emitted by a politician whose circle of advisers include former Sen. Phil Gramm, vice president of the scandal-tainted Union Bank of Switzerland, and John Thain, chief executive of the firm formerly known as Merrill Lynch. But when facing the angry voters who have watched their savings evaporate, the conservative Republican more hopes to sound more like a liberal Democrat again.
He wants to blur the differences between himself and Barack Obama on fundamental economic philosophy. But there is one critical issue where the Arizonan has established a record that cannot be escaped so easily.
Sen. McCain wants to privatize Social Security. It is a stance he has repeatedly taken over the past 10 years in recorded votes, interviews, speeches and documents. It is also a position that he will deny in this campaign. In fact he tried to deny it at a June town hall meeting in New Hampshire, when he declared, "I'm not for, quote, privatizing Social Security. I never have been. I never will be." But the contrary evidence is overwhelming.
- hallelujah0
McCain fangirl Elizabeth Drew on "How McCain lost me"
" have been a longtime admirer of John McCain. During the 2000 Republican presidential primaries I publicly defended McCain against the pro-Bush Republicans’ whisper campaign that he was too unstable to be president (aware though I was that he had a temper). Two years later I published a positive book about him, “Citizen McCain.”I admired John McCain as a man of principle and honor. He had become emblematic of someone who spoke his mind, voted his conscience, and demonstrated courage in bucking his own party and fighting for what he believed in. He gained a well-deserved reputation as a maverick. He was seen as taking principled positions on such issues as tax equity (opposing the newly elected Bush’s tax cut), fighting political corruption, and, later, taking on the Bush administration on torture. He came off as a man of decency. He took political risks.
Having emerged, ironically, from his bitter 2000 primary fight against Bush as an immensely popular figure, he set out to be a new force in American politics. He decided to form and lead a centrist movement, believing that that was where the country was and needed leadership. He went against the grain of his party on the environment, patients’ bill of rights, and, of course, campaign finance reform.
While McCain’s movement to the center was widely popular (if not on the right) – and he even flirted with becoming a Democrat – there’s now strong reason to question whether it was anything but a temporary, expedient tactic. (In his 2002 memoir, “Worth the Fighting For,” he wrote, revealingly, “I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I’d had the ambition for a long time.”)
When he decided to run for president in 2008, he felt he couldn’t win without the support of the right, so he adapted.
In retrospect, other once-hailed McCain efforts – his cultivation of the press (“my base”) and even his fight for campaign finance reform (launched in the wake of his embarrassment over the Keating Five scandal) now seem to have been simply maneuvers. The “Straight Talk Express” – a brilliant p.r. stroke in 2000 – has now been shut down.
When the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, widely opposed by Republicans, began to seem a liability during the 2008 primaries, his reforming zeal gave way to political exigencies, and he ceased mentioning his one-time triumph. Though in 2003 he had introduced a bill to fix some other problems with the campaign finance system, in later years his name was no longer on the bill.
When Bush, issued a “signing statement” in 2006 on McCain’s hard-fought legislation placing prohibitions on torture, saying he would interpret the measure as he chose, McCain barely uttered a peep. And then, in 2006, in one of his most disheartening acts, McCain supported a “compromise” with the administration on trials of Guantanamo detainees, yielding too much of what the administration wanted, and accepted provisions he had originally opposed on principle. Among other things, the bill sharply limited the rights of detainees in military trials, stripped habeas corpus rights from a broad swath of people “suspected” of cooperating with terrorists, and loosened restrictions on the administration’s use of torture. (The Supreme Court later ruled portions of this measure unconstitutional.)McCain’s caving in to this “compromise” did it for me. This was further evidence that the former free-spirited, supposedly principled, maverick was morphing into just another panderer – to Bush and the Republican Party’s conservative base.
Other aspects of McCain, including his temperament, began to trouble me. He seemed disturbingly bellicose. He gave the Iraq war unflagging support no matter the facts. He still talks about “winning” the war, though George W. Bush gave that up some time ago. As the war became increasingly unpopular, he employed the useful technique of blaming its execution rather than recognizing the misconceptions that had led him to be one of the most enthusiastic champions of the war in the first place.
Similarly, in making a big issue of having backed the surge (and simplifying the reasons for its apparent success), he preempts debate on the very idea of the war. He has talked (and sung) loosely about attacking Iran. More recently, he oversimplified this summer’s events in Georgia and made intemperate remarks about Russia, about which he’s been more belligerent than the administration for some time. (He has his own set of neocons.)
There’s an argument that all this compromise wasn’t necessary: some very smart political analysts believed from the outset that McCain could win the nomination by sticking with his old self. And they still believe that McCain won the nomination not because he gave himself over to the base but as a result of a process of elimination of inferior candidates who divided up the conservative vote, as these observers had predicted. (These people insisted on anonymity because McCain is known in Republican circles to have a long memory and a vindictive streak.)
By then I had already concluded that that there was a disturbingly erratic side of McCain’s nature. There’s a certain lack of seriousness in him. And he does not appear to be a reflective man, or very interested in domestic issues. One cannot imagine him ruminating late into the night about, say, how to educate and train Americans for the new global and technological challenges.
McCain’s making a big issue of “earmarks” and citing entertaining examples of ridiculous-sounding ones, circumvents discussion of the larger issues of the allocation of funds in the federal budget: according to the Office of Management and Budget, earmarks represent less than one percent of federal spending.
Now he’s back to declaring himself a maverick, but it’s not clear what that means. If he gains the presidency, is he going to rebel against the base he’s now depending on to get him elected? (Hence his selection of running mate Sarah Palin.) Campaigns matter. If he means “shaking up the system” (which is not the same thing), opposing earmarks doesn’t cut it.
McCain’s recent conduct of his campaign – his willingness to lie repeatedly (including in his acceptance speech) and to play Russian roulette with the vice-presidency, in order to fulfill his long-held ambition – has reinforced my earlier, and growing, sense that John McCain is not a principled man.
In fact, it’s not clear who he is. "- who is John Mccain?
ambition before truth
privilege before honesty
dishonor before reality********
- who is John Mccain?
- chossy0
seems like people are already accepting or rather talking like mcain will win?.... what is the deal here what is Obama's popularity like right now?, also who was the person that played palin in that SNL skit she was sexy :D
- Tina Faykillthefish
- Fey********
- We fear the Bradley Effect.
http://en.wikipedia.…
Mimio - tina fey is on 30 Rock the best show on USA TV right now..robotron3k
- mia_free0
Politics as usual.
- hallelujah0
"The American economy is being wrecked by conservatism. Something like one trillion dollars has evaporated almost overnight, George Bush is apparently hiding in the White House, banks and brokerage houses fall, investment bankers think of leaping off tall buildings cushioned by a golden parachute, and taxpayers are on the hook for these serial conservative failures to the tune of hundreds of billions and counting. There's plenty of blame to go around the entire GOP. But if we have to choose just one, the ringleader in the economic failure of conservatism -- the man who called this horrific economy a mental problem and those of us worried about it a 'nation of whiners' -- is a lesser known figure by the name of William "Phil" Gramm:
Gramm spearheaded efforts to pass banking reform laws, including the landmark Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, which served to reduce government regulations in existence since the Great Depression separating banking, insurance and brokerage activities. ... critics of Gramm point out that this same legislation may have been pivotal in encouraging the corporate practices that led to the 2008 mortgage crises in America.
In a just world, Mr. Gramm would spend the rest of his life in abject poverty, marching from town to town begging forgiveness of the millions of Americans whose lives he helped ruin. In John McCain's bizarro world, Phil Gramm remains a trusted economic advisor and close personal friend. John McCain is entitled to choose his friends as he see fit. But politically, given Gramm's indisputable role in the unfolding economic meltdown, if McCain is serious about regaining any credibility at all, he must jettison the failed conservative ideology that landed us in this mess. McCain could at least start by immediately and publicly disavowing the corrupt influence of Phil Gramm."
- BannedKappa0
“I need to know if she really thinks dinosaurs were here 4,000 years ago. That’s an important... I wanna know that, I really do. Because she’s gonna have the nuclear codes.” Matt Damon
- People should be automatically disqualified from public office for these beliefs.Mimio
- I don't care if she does wear lipstick, she's still a fucken pig.mikotondria3
- orangecrunch0
What comes after trillions?
- Calling it a dayvoiceof
- Gog and MagogMimio
- bazillionsbulletfactory
- no, not bazillions... bRazillions come next.flashbender
- chossy0
I don't trust Barrack Obama........
Reason being he looks like Miles Bennett Dyson from terminator two!!!!
- Right, but Dyson did the right thing. A man on conscience.Mimio
- That guy gave his LIFE for Sarah and John. i consider him redeemedlocustsloth
- Ha! Sarah and John... funny coincidence.jjoeth6
- ahahah, Sarah and JonJaline
- ukit0
Why would we elect a Muslim, when we are in a war against Muslims?
- chossy0
Bullshit it still happened didn't it did you not see terminator 3 !!!
- It's a moral lesson about the law of unintended consequences.Mimio
- SHES GONNA BLOW HIM AWAY!!!!
orangecrunch
- ukit0
Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska on Wednesday became the nation's most prominent Republican officeholder to publicly question whether Sarah Palin has the experience to serve as president.
"She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said in an interview. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything."
Palin was elected governor of Alaska in 2006 and before that was the mayor of a small town.
Democrats have raised questions about Palin since Sen. John McCain picked her as his vice presidential running mate. Most national Republican officeholders have rallied to Palin's candidacy.
Palin has cited the proximity of Alaska to Russia as evidence of her international experience.
Hagel scoffed at that notion.
"I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."