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- hallelujah0
very few Obama supporters are naive or stupid enough to think he will "make it all better", especially with the mess this coutnry is in. But we have to start somewhere.
- ukit0
I am optimistic that some of the characteristics that people diss as fluff (speech making ability, grass roots support) will actually prove to be at least somewhat useful in terms of mobilizing public opinion. One of the main problems is that we have not had a leader who has any kind of credibility.
- lobstarr0
This game is very hard:
- BattleAxe0
hope you are all happy! Bill Passed, we will now all be in debt for the rest of our lives ! Give the people with money money , so the people that owe money can owe more money ! and all this saving investments bullshit , i got two words "tough shit"! you invested, you choose to put your money in the market , you could have just saved, but you want more, you want it to grow and you all got greedy , so you invest you give companies your money ! Now we have to help you out !
Pisses me off that people who support this Bill say it is not the best bill but we needed it! FUCK YOU! work and do your job and get the right bill in!
Demos , Reps all one in the same!
- don't so ideologically blinded. The ship is sinking, we are just launching lifeboats instead of drowning everyone. delay = more loss.********
- I think most of us here were against it BA...TheBlueOne
- i know ship is sinking, we don't need to ram it into an iceberg! im just sad for this country ....BattleAxe
- don't so ideologically blinded. The ship is sinking, we are just launching lifeboats instead of drowning everyone. delay = more loss.
- locustsloth0
FFS she looks like a stroke victim in this pic
- so HOT!BattleAxe
- so fake********
- I think she's a major bullshitter.Mimio
- you betchaRamanisky2
- when she flashed that wink last night i threw up a little in my mouthkona
- so smug, so condescending, so full of shithallelujah
- SteveJobs0
even fox news shows a slightly better than marginal win for biden:
- ephix0
what do you guys think of this article? basically it's saying the amount of the bailout is frivolous. just picked out of thin air.
- not really its based on historic values extrapolated: have to start somewhere.********
- not really its based on historic values extrapolated: have to start somewhere.
- moural0
ukit,
I agree. There are many things that need to be changed. I just don't think that putting a new mannequin in the Oval Office is not going to be the answer. Someone can promise that they're going to install new cabinets, refinish the floors, reroute the plumbing, and rewire the electrical, but at the end of the day, when you consider all of the obstacles in the way, chances are, you're only going to get a new coat of paint.Maybe Obama comes in, and with the help of a Democratic Congress, makes a few changes. But guess what? After a while, the public gets tired of things, votes in a Republican Congress, and a couple of years later, a Republican President. He, or she, changes the things that were just changed, grows stale... and, well - rinse and repeat. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating the move to a dictatorial regime, but it is difficult to progress when the entire system is basically the political equivalent of a rip current.
Like you, I really do want to see a number of issues addressed, but I just don't have much confidence that those things will remain such pressing issues in the future (and if they are, it's likely the course will change 180°). I think it's important to live your life, focus on what's important to you and your family, and not put too much faith in the government. I find that it's like waiting around for a repairman. First he comes late, next he destroys your walls, and then he realizes he doesn't have the part to fix the problem.
- akoni0
like i said, when she loses the election, Hugh Hefner will be waiting for an offer to pose in his mag for her.
- TheBlueOne0
What have they wrought, these power brokers and captains of industry?
- TheBlueOne0
Commentary found on the internets that sums up my feelings:
"Today the United States Congress demonstrated that fear and "sweeteners" continue to be more important than public sentiment. That all the lessons that should have been learned from the AUMF, Supreme Ct appointments, FISA, Bankrupcy Bill, Patriot Act, etc. ... well, the public, not Congress, is the only one learning.
Oh, and impeachment is still off the table and hiding in an undisclosed location.
Today's move does nothing to restore confidence. It does everything to reinforce the perception that American capitalism is no longer about smart investing and hard work. Rather, the rule of law, at least until January 20th, is that he who has the gold makes all the rules. "
- TheBlueOne0
Rome had Bread and Circuses, we get cheap children's wooden toy arrows and all the tax-free Puerto Rican rum we can drink.
- tommyo0
Man the worse this gets...the more in love I am with Ron Paul. When I watch him speak it makes me want a little Ron Paul doll I can cuddle with. Just sayin. I can't help but think he would have done really great things for this country. :*(
- Ron Paul is for Libertarians what Al Gore is for Liberals. Much better in concept than actualization...TheBlueOne
- ...seriously any guy that laments the Gold Standard isn't in touch with the reality of finance these days.TheBlueOne
- for you TBO
http://video.google.…GeorgesII - Finance these days is failing TBO ... :-/tommyo
- GeorgesII0
- 1, 2, 3, 4 childs left behind. mavrik? holy shit.kona
- Hey, I'm a mavrik too!TheBlueOne
- you damn socialest mavrik! hahahkona
- TheBlueOne0
Really fucking glad all you wall street rich kids got your payola. Meanwhile, back on the farm:
"Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis, California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the federal treasury for short-term financing," Schwarzenegger wrote in the letter, according to the paper."
- TheBlueOne0
“It is a crisis. It’s a toxic mess, really, on Main Street that’s affecting Wall Street. And now we have to be ever vigilant and also making sure that credit markets don’t seize up. That’s where the Main Streeters like me, that’s where we would really feel the effects.”
- Sarah Palin, Oct. 2, 2008
- sikma0
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/03…
i think i'm going to be sick