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- colin_s0
the general consensus was pre-debate mccain needed a knockout punch, or some sort of "game changer" (or whatever the fuck the press calls it). he seemed to interpret that as little snide remarks and constantly shitting on obama, which came at a sacrifice for pointing out his own plans (for the most part).
he didn't have a terrible night, but obama stayed poised whereas he seemed very george w bush like, snickering and meandering. i think a knockout for mccain would have been had he shown up and out-obama'd obama... been a statesman, spoken straight and clearly without the attacks. he sorta blew it on his "home turf" of a debate.
- locustsloth0
i was only half-listening while doing chores, but did McCain say that we have to fix our defense spending and then later in the answer say that we should freeze spending on everything BUT defense?
- yesSoler
- Well isn't he a crazy ol' cootlocustsloth
- to say the least...Soler
- Soler0
- @ 50 seconds, it gets great.Soler
- Really good. Thanks for posting this.tommyo
- smart guy. who is he?
//MrOneHundred - Who? Ralph NaderBusterBoy
- Who?********
- It's sad, he would probably make a great president.DCDesigns
- He's th eonly one willing to stand up against the corporations and enact common sense laws.Soler
- a lot of rhetoric. and he's not good looking. these are important requisites to become a president.SteveJobs
- also, a corporation has the same rights as a person is for the owners protection.SteveJobs
- if a company is sued, the ceo doesn't go to jail.SteveJobs
- these boxes need to be able to scroll!SteveJobs
- You could protect CEOs without having companies contribute to campaigns, bro.Soler
- tommyo0
haha did you guys see this? I know they talked about it during the debate but ffs this is insane.
"AIG spent more than 440,000 dollars for an executive getaway at a California beach resort just days after the insurance giant was rescued by an 85-billion-dollar US government loan, lawmakers said Tuesday.
"Less than one week after the taxpayers rescued AIG, company executives could be found wining and dining at one of the most exclusive resorts in the nation," Democratic Congressman Henry Waxman told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform."
- ukit0
- zaq0
- ukit0
LOL
- what a terrible journalistsikma
- oh, he’s not a journalist.MrOneHundred
- the other guy is Obama's communication director, BTWukit
- Gawd I hate Fox 'News'ETM
- hannity is a fucking moron. and he has an audience!emukid
- that fat head fuckhallelujah
- Look at the extreme difference in the polls on Foxseed
- ukit0
http://www.time-blog.com/swampla…
Gallup today reports an astounding number: Only 9% of Americans say they are satisfied with the direction of the country, by far the lowest such reading in the history of the poll.
- omgitsacamera0
Ugh. Deplorable.
- ukit0
Some conservative blog reaction:
What is there left to say? This is the third debate of the general election season and the Democratic nominee once again seemed more in touch with the average non-partisan middle class voter than the Republican. Obama talked about health care while McCain talked about pork. Obama talked about Afghanistan while McCain talked about Iraq. Obama was able to explain his domestic policies while McCain simply asked us to trust him to enact policies that he didn’t seem to understand. Obama continues to seem moderate, intelligent, and reasonable, and he’s the Democrat running in a year that voters hate Republicans. Again, I will not delude myself or lie to you or anyone else. Nothing changed tonight, Obama is still on track to win the presidency in four weeks, and the Republican Party is in need of a massive overhaul if it ever hopes to be a potent political force in this country again.
- ukit0
And from National Review:
We have a disaster here — which is what you should expect when you delegate a non-conservative to make the conservative (nay, the American) case. We can parse it eight ways to Sunday, but I think the commentary is missing the big picture.
Here's what Obama needed to do tonight: Convince the country that he was an utterly safe, conventional, centrist politician who may have leftward leanings but will do the right thing when the crunch comes.
Now, as the night went along, did you get the impression that Obama comes from the radical Left? Did you sense that he funded Leftist causes to the tune of tens of millions of dollars? Would you have guessed that he's pals with a guy who brags about bombing the Pentagon? Would you have guessed that he helped underwrite raging anti-Semites? Would you come away thinking, "Gee, he's proposing to transfer nearly a trillion dollars of wealth to third-world dictators through the UN"?
Nope. McCain didn't want to go there. So Obama comes off as just your average Center-Left politician. Gonna raise your taxes a little, gonna negotiate reasonably with America's enemies; gonna rely on our very talented federal courts to fight terrorists and solve most of America's problems; gonna legalize millions of hard-working illegal immigrants.
McCain? He comes off as Center-Right .. or maybe Center-Left ... but, either way, deeply respectful of Obama despite their policy quibbles.
Great. Memo to McCain Campaign: Someone is either a terrorist sympathizer or he isn't; someone is either disqualified as a terrorist sympathizer or he's qualified for public office. You helped portray Obama as a clealy qualified presidential candidate who would fight terrorists.
If that's what the public thinks, good luck trying to win this thing.
- I love watching neocons squirm in their own shitty lying rhetoricTheBlueOne
- If they actually think Obama is "Radical Left" they are morons...TheBlueOne
- ..Obama is your average center left politician.TheBlueOne
- ********0
who won?
- Fariska0
- I think even Mcain's wife knew that was pathetic.BusterBoy
- To be fair, McCain's wife is pathetic too.monkeyshine
- TheBlueOne0
My favorite McCain quote from last night:
"We're not rifle shots, we're Americans!"
- monkeyshine0
Though not some impassioned debate, I thought Obama buried McCain on the domestic front. His explanations were clear and articulate; McCain just rambled about how he knows how to reach across the aisle and get things done. Sorry but "I'll get 'er done" isn't good enough. And his disrespect for Obama seems disproportionate to reality; where did this come from?
Watching CNN was interesting; anytime either one of them dipped into dissing one another the focus group dialed way down. They seemed to only respond to issues...that was hopeful.
- Mcain's promises are about as believable as Bush's promise in 2000 to end partisan politics...BusterBoy
- but what are they? Let me in, pleeeaaaseeee I promise to 'get 'er done'. He's got nada.monkeyshine
- don't you find it curious that people criticize Obama for not being specific? yet another unconscious code for blackhallelujah
- ********0
- reminds me of being a kid and watching the turntable go aroundrobotron3k
- TheBlueOne0
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