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- utopian4
Capitalism is becoming less competitive
- utopian4
America is dying of free-market capitalism
America is dying of loneliness. America is dying of opioid overdoses, guns, isolation, lost jobs, lack of health care, anger, racism, and a bottomless desire to be famous, if only for 15 minutes. America is dying from an authoritarian government, indifference to its children, cruelty, voter suppression, and the weight of the rich squeezing the last breath from our lungs and the last dollar from our pockets. America is dying of Stage Four Capitalism.
- utopian1
Five myths about capitalism
Thirty years ago, in the face of a serious economic challenge from Japan and Europe, the United States embraced a form of free-market capitalism that was less regulated, less equal, more prone to booms and busts. Driving that shift was a set of useful myths about motivation, fairness and economic growth that helped restore American competitiveness. Over time, however, the most radical versions of these ideas have polarized our politics, threatened our prosperity and undermined the moral legitimacy of our system.
- why did you just copy and paste like 3 things? No personal insight, just pasta?********
- and why three posts? Selfish feel good motive? Or something else?********
- use your own words for once instead of copy pasta to explain why you personally dont like capitalism, you might see its because u like the security a gov********
- promises you in the same way a church promises usecurity in afterlife or that god is watching out for u and everythign is his will.********
- deathboy. he is sharing information for others to read. not just talking shit in the notes offering nothing. just fyiimbecile
- lol. sharing information. i can copy pasta info all day to share. but is their value in that? no. this is sharing bias without even attempting to justify with********
- any reason. you see back in the day when some cites others words they work it into their personal arguement to help simplify explanation on complex subjects********
- it also could be used against lazy to falsely give credence through superficial means. But nowadays we just get blind copy and paste as pretext********
- of "sharing information" with no idea of reason or goals? ignoring all obvious bias? usually someone with a handle as yours i'd think is in jest.********
- sharing bias? lol, what are you smoking?monospaced
- go ahead and copy / pasta then. just shut the fuck up otherwiseimbecile
- so imbecile your preferred method is too spread the word of others with no understanding or contribution or even statement of reason why?********
- brilliant!********
- get that boy a bible!********
- and mono sharing bias is so obvious... are you smoking something... if you dont support trump do you share articles without own opinions or reason that support********
- him? I'd say historically you could go back and find that you do not. So as humans are they share what is good to them. The natural instinct that capitalism********
- thrives on. How markets work. And yes markets can self destruct with idiots sharing bad things as good. Hence every non anti capitalist system who had leaders********
- who knew better. i thought it was super obvious. perhaps to explain things you need a little more hand holding to walk you through it.********
- Hopefully that clears it up or if it doesn't can you try to be more explicit in where it doesn't seem to make sense.********
- you make almost no sensemonospaced
- I was just laughing at the very idea that there is something called a "sharing bias" and that you're so fucking triggered by itmonospaced
- I suggest you work on your sentence structure, grammar and spelling before you even THINK of implying people have comprehension issues. Seriously.monospaced
- couldn't even copy / pasta correctly. smhimbecile
- sharing is caringutopian
- mono im absolutely positive you have comprehension issues because you lack all ability to back with reason what you defend. up there with flyin chariots of fire********
- imbecile... well i cant say your retort means a damn. Or even has any meaning. It is actually quite inconsequential. hate to state the obvious********
- perhaps i shouldn't even state that. a vacuum being filled with pointless comments sucking others in. can a comment have any effect in making someone realize********
- they have no stance. can you take the gay out of someone through prayer. can a tiger change his stripes. or is it all simply a biological hack********
- i dont think any amount of reason can change you. it is what it is because it can not be any other way than it is.********
- but still im compelled to try. fully knowing a grocery list of reasons why but i cant seem to change my stripes neither********
- my comprehension is as good as anybody's ... the problem is that you are absolute shit at writingmonospaced
- I can back up and defend anything I state, and I can do it in a way that is understandable. You, on the other hand, struggle with basic punctuation.monospaced
- I was only asking what a sharing bias was. You went off on some insanely autistic, incoherent rant, then attempted (sadly) to make it about me.monospaced
- good as anybodys... really objective mono. but ill give it to you i might seem to be shit and explaining ideas in LCD terms.********
- I would think a sharing bias is self explanatory like a "pretty sunset". forgive me for presuming too much about what i see as simple communication********
- but again i'll call upon your comprehension skills to try and communicate what confused you? i know my puntucation and grammar had no effect********
- the "autistic, incoherent rant" lacked any relevance to punctuation or grammar. if anything, it shows a lack of comprehension and understanding while trying********
- debase it as incoherent. not with reason or merit but that you couldn't comprehend what im talking about. so you write it off. If i don't know what someone is********
- is talking about usually i ask questions to clarify. i understand communication to be so much more than normally thought about being in advertising.********
- but than again i used "sharing bias" in this conversation, which u think triggered me... i triggered myself?********
- ... Some people wether neo nazis or christian fundamentalists are what they are. People think irrational and dumb crazy shit. thats human.********
- probably also try and have 2 kids while hoping to save the world driving a prius or tesla, ignoring the fact a new life greatly does more damage.********
- majority of people are largely ignorant assholes. and humanity is largely only benefited by a rare breed of individuals. i ever wonder if you think such things********
- and can be comfortable knowing which side you are truely on.********
- I love how your junior high school educated ass is trying to school someone who has two higher degrees and writes for a living. You really are not good at this.monospaced
- Your continued insistence that I have a comprehension issue says more about your inability to get across what you mean in a written form, not mine.monospaced
- Ask ANYONE to read your gibberish, and they will agree. If anyone says your writing makes perfect sense, then they're blowing smoke up your ass.monospaced
- i dont give a shit mono if you agree. i never expected you to. if you could only even humor the idea of what you know as absolutely wrong in pursuit of your ide********
- als. you could learn so much. however, i beleive you are not a scholar in such aspects. you are very simple in what you believe and how you live********
- i do hardly engage with you because i believe such things. but since your still at and a human id like to challenge to to be better********
- what is the point of life if not to try to better society. Yes i could insult you and feel good about myself but none of that matters to me.********
- and i'd love a explanation of how your "two higher degrees" mean a damn. I mean after all are degrees nothing more than paper? I truely would love********
- to see how you justify your debt as a sucker to big banks who loaned money knowing it was guaranteed********
- why did you just copy and paste like 3 things? No personal insight, just pasta?
- yuekit4
- lets see how the operation goes for you in cuba .hotroddy
- @hotroddy: https://theculturetr…uan
- well I hope you enjoy the stay: https://panampost.co…hotroddy
- and I'm sure doctors love the conditions: https://www.nytimes.…hotroddy
- You have seen where America falls in quality of healthcare, right?formed
- well if you want it to fall further than socialize it.hotroddy
- health care system costs a lot of money - if its a good system where lot of people profit about it..api
- Morning_star-2
If your income is more than...
- $32,400
- 30,250 Euros
- 2 million Indian rupees
- 223,000 Chinese yuan...you are a member of the global 1%.
- Within in a short time frame, eg 1 month - low income in a low cost area = not bad life. But over 10+ years it's a problem, due to tech advances disruptingshapesalad
- .. established business. And with a move to globalised market place, low income = unable to invest in progress.shapesalad
- .. the problem is the march of progress, driven by a growing population, limited resources and males need to provide in order to secure a female.shapesalad
- otherwise a simple low cost life, with a low cost income, can be a lovely life.shapesalad
- It sounds like you're advocating the rejection of technology, equality of opportunity for both sexes and a return to a stone-age lifestyle. Are you Amish?Morning_star
- What this tells me is that there are a lot of really poor people in the world, not that 30k a year is a luxurious lifestyle. Many people struggle horribly onyuekit
- a salary like that, considering the ridiculous cost of rent, health care, etc. in many Western countries.yuekit
- The real gap is between the ultra rich and everyone else. The richest 40 people in the world now have the same wealth as the poorest 4 billion.yuekit
- Why is that's a problem?Morning_star
- I mean what if one guy literally had all the world's money? Of course at some point it gets ridiculous and counterproductive :)yuekit
- Aside from the unfairness factor, there is probably a huge opportunity cost for everyone because resources are being monopolized by a few people.yuekit
- Why should it be fair? And who decides what 'fair' means? We ALL consume resources, all of us. Resources aren't monopolised, the control of them is.Morning_star
- So, should I be happy or sad that I'm in the global 1%?********
- Sure "unfair" is subjective, but so are lot of things right? I think most humans don't want to see other humans dying on the street because they happened to beyuekit
- born into bad circumstances, when the money and resources exist to help them.yuekit
- @soundofreason. Think for yourself.
@yuekit. I think most humans don't give a shit about humans dying on the street.Morning_star - Basically every country on earth has some kind of anti-poverty program, so clearly they do care at least a bit.yuekit
- Most of those are Governmental Initiatives, Foreign Aid etc or NGOs/Charities. At the level of the individual people either don't care or care only as much...Morning_star
- ..as it makes them look and feel good. True seflessness is incredibly rare.Morning_star
- In polls most people dramatically underestimate the actual level of inequality that exists. They also consistently say they want to increase taxes on the rich,yuekit
- usually beyond the level that is offered to them by either left or right politicians. So make of that what you will. I do agree that if a problem is not inyuekit
- people's faces all the time, it becomes abstract to them, but this is different from saying that they are just assholes and don't care at all :)yuekit
- I never said people were assholes for not caring. It's arguably an evolutionary advantage not to care about thousands of starving people.Morning_star
- @Morning_star
Sadly, I'm part of the 99% who are not freethinkers.
Help a brother out.******** - @Soundofreason. You should be blissfully happy that you're part of the1%. You can rest easy in the recliner chair of ignorance and gorge on the unrelenting...Morning_star
- ..'facts' that pass before you eyes. Embrace the sweet, sweet life of privilege.Morning_star
- this is a setup. first of all markets and wages are relative. when you post shit like this its no better than posting US minimum wage vs congo. Yes liberal********
- tactic of false associations and funny, but at the same time absolute BS. Oranges to apples. But I think you know that.********
- Deathboy, $32,400 is the figure that will put you in the to 1%. Stick your salary in here and have a look. http://www.globalric…Morning_star
- Morning_star0
Globally, we’ve cut extreme poverty by 58 percent using the 2008 definition of extreme poverty, and 74.1 percent by the 2015 definition.
- utopian0
- Not only does capitalism gives you the option to choose but floors in question come from China. Can you guess what political system China pretends to be?hotroddy
- Trying to build a new fence...cedar up 40% due to tariffs. Fucking thanks.formed
- my shopify stock went down 30% in last month due to same thing.hotroddy
- utopian2
Cheerios With a Dose of Roundup?
https://www.ewg.org/childrenshea…
http://www.startribune.com/round…
#GodBlessAmericanGreed
- Like the Communists did, we could always murder all the farmers. Problem solved.Morning_star
- +1 for capitalism- your able to sue for $280 million dollars. try suing the govt for $280 million- those corrupt fuckers would never allow it.hotroddy
- utopian3
WISCONSIN’S $4.1 BILLION FOXCONN BOONDOGGLE
Gov. Scott Walker promised billions to get a Foxconn factory, but now he’s running away from it.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10…
#CorporateWelfare
#Winning
#MAGA- How is Walker still there? Has he done one decent thing? I still cannot comprehend how people vote these punks in.formed
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- utopian3
The wealth of America's three richest families grew by 6,000% since 1982
The three wealthiest US families are the Waltons of Walmart, the Mars candy family and the Koch brothers, heirs to the country’s second largest private company, the energy conglomerate Koch Industries. These are all enterprises built by the grandparents and parents of today’s wealthy heirs and heiresses.
These three families own a combined fortune of $348.7bn, which is 4m times the median wealth of a US family.
Since 1982, these three families have seen their wealth increase nearly 6,000%, factoring in inflation. Meanwhile, the median household wealth went down 3% over the same period.
The dynastic wealth of the Walton family grew from $690m in 1982 (or $1.81bn in 2018 dollars) to $169.7bn in 2018, a mind-numbing increase of more than 9,000%.
The top three wealthiest billionaires in the US – Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett – now have as much wealth as the bottom half of the US population combined.
- fucked up - solution is simple boycott these families and try and shop 'smart'(er)mugwart
- solution is simple https://is.gd/bFgKkL…kingsteven
- perhaps solution is when they die, no money can be passed to family, becomes public company, money is divided equally amongst population.shapesalad
- of course for that to happened, you need politicians that can't be bought by someone very rich. Thus we find ourselves spiralling in greed towards hell.shapesalad
- tax wealth not profit. I don't mind rich people getting tax breaks if their money is actually doing something. Tax billionaire inheritance and dumb luck.Fax_Benson
- Also a show-off tax. Tax anything that increases in value because of a publicly-financed infrastructure project.Fax_Benson
- "Walmart employs an astounding 2.1 million people. In the United States alone United States alone, the company employs 1.4 million people."Morning_star
- It's all relative. 170bn in hands of a family is a fortune whil in hands of 300m of Americans it translates to measly $550/person.pr2
- wonder if inheritance tax only the rich would help? That money can only and only go to improving the well being of the country .... can only see plot holes!mugwart
- ^ brilliant solution. But how to implement???Projectile
- There already is an inheritance tax, and has been. Trump just doubled the exemption, of course. His father also scammed the system out of paying this for hisformed
- kids. But the GOP's mentality of "don't tax the "job" creators" and the lack of any belief that people should pay their fair share, it will keep getting worse.formed
- and yet we prefer to fight each other cos reasonsrobthelad
- and yet, the Republicans still want to deregulate the banking markets like the corrupt, greedy fucks they aremonospaced
- and even worse, the voting base goes around saying deregulation is a good thing, not realizing it will fuck them in the ass hard, like it did beforemonospaced
- They wealthy elite need additional tax cuts, and they're going to get it.utopian
- stop counting other peoples money you resentful cunts.hotroddy
- nothing resentful here only a group of people understanding meaning of the word "obscene" .pr2
- I doubt wether there's one person here who doesn't fall into the 1%. And what i see is virtue signalling to the echo chamber. Words like obscene and greedy...Morning_star
- ...banded around with suggestions that the government should just steal the wealthy elite's money. Not one person has their spotlight on the the poor...Morning_star
- ...and needy. Those people in our cities and communities that we can help with a little bit of effort. It's true what Orwell said...the middle class...Morning_star
- ...socialists doesn't love the poor they just hate the rich.Morning_star
- The government have no power over the money because all the money is held privately, and the people with the money run the government. Solution = Rebellion?robthelad
- Rebellion, really? How many dead rich folk is enough? And where's the cut off, Ten, a thousand, ten thousand? Can I keep my Spotify subscription or will i...Morning_star
- ...have to share it 'cause that's gonna fuck me right off.Morning_star
- shapesalad: that's just a stupid suggestion. If I want to give my children my money that's my business. Fuck any government that says otherwise.zarkonite
- This notion of making rules to prevent inheritance is completely flawed, whatever you put in place there will be loopholes found over time. And again it's thezarkonite
- those who can't afford "tax planning" that will suffer.zarkonite
- Kingsteven nailed it in the 2nd postGnash
- well, my rule would be applied to co's/fam worth 1bn+. Of course, they would all be enticed to China/Russia etc to avoid the tax.shapesalad
- "virtue signalling to the echo chamber" lol gotta love right wing buzzwords. But... trickle down economics!The_Reprisalizer
- @Shapesalad. 'enticed to China/Russia' how ironic ;)
@The Reprisalizer. how is that right wing?Morning_star - trickle down economics works. Business have money to pay me when they don't have to pay the IRS. And have a bigger budget to hire you for your shitty serviceshotroddy
- ^ Lol saying "trickle down economics works" under a post about 3 families' wealth increasing 6000%. Fucking boot lickerThe_Reprisalizer
- And calling criticism of the Kock brothers "virtue signalling" is too funny, considering how often right wing talk about "liberal elites" and Soros fundingThe_Reprisalizer
- You guys are freaking out about their wealth but we are WAY better off than under any other system of government that's ever existed. In the 15th century, thezarkonite
- elite was wealthier, you had no rights and even your life wasn't worth a damn. What exactly is the problem here? you don't like your job? you feel you shouldzarkonite
- get paid more for your labour?zarkonite
- @The_Reprisalizer. You seem to be under the impression that life, politics and the distribution of wealth needs to be fair. How's that work out for communism?Morning_star
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- if anything discourse in the 80s was so much nicer********
- Perhaps, because of less media/social media, to get to know someone you had to 'know' them, talk to them - and so people were more respectful towards strangers.shapesalad
- @ 17 mins regarding the pencil. Lovely example.shapesalad
- example of what?uan
- This was before everyone gave up on arguing in good faith and started arguing to win/shut down the opponent.i_monk
- something as simple as a pencil of free market. i hardly imagine the career politician to have any idea********
- but this video is only part 1 of 10.... i think most people could really argue against anything in it********
- #thermodynamicsmonospaced
- #FindaTalkingPointTo...********
- mono if you want to wear the big boy pants like an adult you must make a valid argument. or just stay on sidelines of old toddlers********
- well i guess you don't have too.... just don't expect to be treated as much by those that understand... but maybe thats the case. higher edu has killed reason.********
- all thats left is a angry dumb and selfish mob with no real principles triggered by any popular cause. perhaps we are approaching a dark age********
- oh, I have no arguemnt... i never even watched the video ... I just like writing #thermodynamics everywhere you post anything politicalmonospaced
- y'know, because the two aren't related, but you keep arguing they are (they aren't, really).monospaced
- you are an idiot. go ahead and explain how the two are not related...i wish i could say shit and believe it as you do********
- except I'm not an idiotmonospaced
- Thermodynamics is a set of physical laws having to do with heat (energy). Politics does not have anything to do with heat in a system. Done. Fuck that was easy.monospaced
- Cue another 20 incoherent notes from you attempting to make the connection, but failing miserably, and gaining even more downvotes in the process.monospaced
- HAHA is economics devoid of energy? Hard to argue that one. Its simple minded to ignore hard science reaction with social systems and effects********
- can you explain why the thermodynamic concept of entrophy should be ignored to social economic structures? i only think you're an idiot because you dont cant********
- even see the conversation. cant imagine or even humor it for a rational response. you simply seem to be missing the comprehension of it.********
- but its cool. if it was obvious to the masses or acceptable it would probably be fixed. Count yourself into the ignorant masses. You are the majority!********
- yes, it's 100% devoid of the energy described in the laws of thermodynamics ... that is my fucking pointmonospaced
- if your'e going to REDEFINE what energy is completely , then sure, I guess you can apply your bullsh theory, but then it's not thermodynamics or entropy anymoremonospaced
- your explanation only works if you don't use actual thermodynamic laws .. .AT ALL, and that's a fucking fact.monospaced
- Clearly you read this somewhere on the internet and are trying to pass it off as deep thinking to overcome your OBVIOUS lack of education on the subjectmonospaced
- Couple that with your ignorance of the corporate world and markets (you've made this clear), and I'm not surprised at your dumbass theories and conclusions.monospaced
- cue the remaining 16 comments from you pathetically attempting to restate this nonsense while ignorantly trying to peg me as uninformedmonospaced
- see i'd give you credit if u define your view of energy as a relation to my point. its simple thinking economies are devoid of energy.********
- look a smart fellow would look at this and say well we can rise above the nature or physics and counter entrophy. And display some sort of reasoning for it.********
- you have given 0 rational explanations too your conclusion thermoD rules are related to social economic systems. You are whiny brat that jsut cries********
- loud fury and annoyance without any substance. im sure you don't think that, but try to picture it. a common place among thinkers is picturing and relating.********
- and honest thinkers if cant relate will say as much or ask a question. common among the secure emotional intellectual types. do you you have a question?********
- to confusion to any reasoning. so far all i get is you think thermodynamic energy in theory cant be economic energy. Id love to hear the reason for that.********
- well. i'd love to hear it but I don't expect it. im thinking basic reasoning of the such might be above your pay grade********
- start basic and try to argue liquidity is not energy or a force? start somewhere for a base like an adult with a brain********
- try to be nice but some ppl are just stupid no matter how much you hand hold them i think********
- if anything discourse in the 80s was so much nicer
- utopian1
#MAGA
