Job hunting rant
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- Continuity
So I got up this morning to find this lovely PFO from an agency after I'd had what I thought was a fantastic and promising Skype video interview with them:
Dear [me],
Referring to the conversation you had with [the bloke I interviewed with], I would like to give you the following feedback.
Based on the interview and your resume we do not see an opening within [their shop] which suits you and is at the same senior level which you are on.
We are really sorry because we think highly of your work.
Let’s keep in touch so now and then, and when there is a appropriate vacancy we will definitely contact you.
Thank you for your interest in [their shop].
Kind regards,
[their HR person]
I'm so sick to the tits of this.
The subtext here, of course, is 'you're too expensive for us', but seriously, I've been running into this nine times out of 10 for the last almost year. I even made it a point of telling the guy in the interview that I was more than willing to take a more junior position.
Yet, when I also go for more senior creative jobs, I get told I'm not qualified, so it seems I'm stuck in some sort of middle un-definable area.
I really, honestly, don't know what more I can do to get out of that, and get back in the game. Argh!!
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- ernexbcn0
sorry to hear that mate, I'm also on the hunt and it's proven difficult for me too this time, good luck
- fredddddd0
sorry, thats the worst kind of rejection. can you take things off your resume?
- I'd been thinking of that too, but then I'd have some pretty inexplicable gaps in my CV.Continuity
- say a family member got sick and you had to take care of them. make something upiCanHasQBN
- ukit0
I guess it's a good idea to discuss salary range and so on before hand.
- neue75_bold0
been there mate...
all you can really do is keep looking, keep your chin up and eventually something's going to work out... unfortunately it might take a lot longer than you'd hoped..
- BaskerviIle0
I don't think that too much of a negative feedback.
From what I've heard from design recruitment people that I've been in touch with recently, studios are all reluctant to hire permanent staff at the moment. there's lots of senior freelance work, but it will be another 6 months before companies are ready to invest in full time seniors again
- Continuity0
Cheers, fellas.
Honestly, though, at this point, I'll try out any sensible change of approach; obviously my current strategy isn't accomplishing much.
- toe_knee0
Sorry to hear it bud. It is kinda lame, but.... I had to turn down someone for being to senior today. Sure the person might say they are willing to work a more junior role, but when someone wants a junior they are looking for someone they can mould into a position.
- antoine_1010
its tough out there still right now. hold in there and things will change soon
- Miguex0
Don't loose hope man, you do nice work.
Sometimes you just dont click at the right time, or the shop might be too small to what you are looking at.One thing you did that I liked is to offer "a more jr position" as you call it, instead of taking a pay cut, you asked for a cut on responsibilities, I never thought about that before.
I think we've all been there, being a freelancer I'm in that situation all the time, you have no idea what people think design is worth sometimes, including FREE.
- Cheers, mate. Funny though, I always thought the implication with taking a more jr role would be a salary cut. :DContinuity
- yes, but a salary cut with less responsibility, not keeping the responsibility and no cashola for it.Amicus
- raf0
How's this the worst kind of rejection? They kindly tell you they don't have a job for you, a lot of companies don't bother answering at all.
- Most don't answer, in my experience. And I don't see this as the worst kind, just frustrating.Continuity
- necromation0
Fuck em... Just keep going mate!
Unless your evil it will turn out alright in the end.GOOD LUCK
- Unless the struggle turns you evil, in which case you are fucked.Orbit
- whereRI0
i think many companies are reluctant to hire full time/ contract.
any luck setting up the freelance?- I'm still looking into that. Keeping it wide open as a viable option.Continuity
- hektor9110
I've experienced that in Texas for the last couple of months. They want to pay really low.... I don't see how that computes when being in big cities.
- megE0
I sympathize with you... I did 9 months, over 200+ applications filled out/jobs applied to, about 20 'sorry' responses, 2 interviews, 1 offer...
- SigDesign0
I hear you... It's the same for me, like being middle aged or something... too old or too young...
- BoneCrusher0
you're not senior level material.
- @Continuity.BoneCrusher
- Erm. Okay.Continuity
- Your opinion, of course.Continuity
- He is a "bone crusher"jteore
- Indeed he is, yet I feel remarkably un-crushed.Continuity
- smpl0
I'm hunting too, guess patience is key, something will come up for sure
- Andrew_D0
Phil, are you able to work in Canada? Seems like you were on the east coast before. I'm leaving a senior position at my studio which is still vacant.
- If ya wanna live in Toronto.Andrew_D
- Yeah, I'm a Canadian, though I'll be honest, this is the side of the pond I want to be on. :DContinuity
- Thanks for the tip, though, I appreciate it.Continuity
- No worries, matey.Andrew_D
- Although I see you have a London office ...Continuity
- Boss just saw your stuff and liked it, let me know if you change your mind.Andrew_D
- Ahhh...whoops! Not at that company anymore. I need to change that.Andrew_D
- That was two jobs ago, but I'm going to the Jays game tonight with them (1meth) and will inquire.Andrew_D
- Awesome, that'd be fantastic.Continuity
- dirty_dick0
The creative pool is like an hour glass. Lots of Juniors at the bottom... seniors at the top... and very few in-between. Sounds like this might be your problem Continuity
- mg330
The best thing you can do for yourself is lay back and rub one out, grinning at the fact that you are too good for someone.