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- futurefood1
What started as a $700 synth purchase led to a series of gear trades spanning over 2 years with countless rejections, someone finally said, ‘Sure, ok’.
- Damn.. do tellautoflavour
- is niceprophetone
- @auto it would make for a lengthy blog thread post. In short, I purchased a mophoX4 long ago for about $650 or $700 years back...futurefood
- ...Then from there, I traded that synth for two other synths. Then two synths became two drum machines and a guitar, etc. etc. I just kept trading upward....futurefood
- ..Then this guy traded an insane fender guitar (I’ll post in guitar thread) for a moog little phatty synth. It turned out to be some +$2000 telecasterfuturefood
- For the past year I’ve been really wanting a minimoog more than ever. So every time I saw someone selling one I would draft up this really wordy email...futurefood
- ...talking about the telecaster. Eventually this guy responded back to me and invited me to his studio.futurefood
- Incidentally, the man who responded was Michael Mark. Composer of the Entertainment Tonight theme, haha.futurefood
- His studio was full of synths and this moog was sitting next to a stack of minimoogs which were in various states of repair.futurefood
- Mines not mint, mod wheel needs some work and there are chips in the paint that need to be touched up.futurefood
- cosmetic is irrelevant .. good workautoflavour
- i was babysitting on of these for the past 3 years.. it was just picked up on the weekend and im already missing itautoflavour
- inteliboy0
any of you guys had a play with both the Prophet 6 and OB6? very tempted to buy one... keep flip flopping on which one though...
- do tell what you end up going with ... I was thinking of getting the Prophet 6atomholc
- I was at this show. She just used a Prophet6. the thing sounds so massive live.
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- mg330
- I've been doing a similar "midi filtering" procedure with MaxMsp.section_014
- I wish I had the time for anything like this. Someday I'm going to discover that my current music project could have taken 1/2 the time if I'd done stuff moremg33
- code based / randomized or generative.mg33
- i do a lot with pd and in the logic scripter. just got live and m4l and making the transition over. a lot of possibilities, slower (for me)kingsteven
- to get a project started in max than just going in and scripting midi with javascript... can loose a day doing something simplekingsteven
- mg33 check out this vid , could replace quite a few of my scripts https://www.youtube.…kingsteven
- kingsteven3
Quite an old track of mine coming out on a cassette comp this Friday from Touch Sensitive Records with a new video from made by some pals up on Boiler Room TV now
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- nocomply0
Hi friends.
Do you have a recommendation for a cheap vintage keyboard/synth that I can use to record some sounds and drum loops out of?
Key being cheap. I'm not looking for the "nice" vintage stuff you aficionados are after. More like the toy stuff of the 80s.
The inspiration here is my Yamaha PSS-130, which I got at a garage sale for $0.50. It makes some awesome, super-cheesy sounds, but its capabilities are limited and it doesn't have a line out, and I'm not a circuit bending wizard who can easily add one.
Any recommendations of stuff from the same era but slightly more competent would be rad.
I realize I can get a midi keyboard and do this stuff on my computer, but that kinda kills the fun and the creative part for me.
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- su10!!! +1futurefood
- yep, sub $100 ‘n grittyprophetone
- Thanks prophetone! I went down the rabbit hole and found the Casio SK-1 as well. Looks promising.nocomply
- Should have been more specific about "recording sounds" but I really have no idea what I'm doing. I'm not looking for a sampling machine...nocomply
- I'm looking for an old keyboard already loaded with tacky 80s/90s instrument sounds to make beats and record them with a line out.nocomply
- But the sampling part would be rad too.nocomply
- Problem is, a lot of old, cheap keyboards don't have a headphone jack or line out.nocomply
- I sold my SU10 and gave away SK1 :(
But the memories will live onfuturefood
- prophetone1
- the dual sequencer alone is worth itfuturefood
- yeah not going to lie, am seriously lusting after one..autoflavour
- Beautiful hardware designprophetone
- got my ms-101 thoprophetone
- ^how is it?futurefood
- it's exactly what i hoped, just fun to play with and dial in cool sounds - always wanted the sh-101 and i think i'm good now as this fits billprophetone
- will be on look out for a use one maybe just to have as backup, they're cheap enough, great form factorprophetone
- behringer 808 on the list first...prophetone
- ms101 is so tempting, i have limited space
:( but soo tempting!!futurefood
- nocomply1
Well, by sheer luck I found something that fits the bill on Craigslist.
The original owner of this Yamaha PSR-12 lives just 5 minutes away and was asking $35.
Here it is in my car before I drove it home.
It has some pretty sweet sounds onboard and a kinda cool auto-assist bassline feature I might make use of.
It has a mono aux out port, so I assume a cable like this one would allow me to hook it up to an audio interface for recording, right?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G95…
I'm new to this stuff so learning as I go.
- Looks fun, yes on the cable. Incase you haven’t yet, check out 8bit Keys on YouTube. Lots of info on these keyboardsfuturefood
- https://youtu.be/XbW…futurefood
- if you can find a pss-390 or 780 they have a fucking sweet synthesiser section. 780 has midi and a cleaner sound 390 has a more nostalgic sunbaked sound to itkingsteven
- also, that cable is mono RCA to stereo mini jack... you may as well use a normal jack to phono lead and leave one RCA unplugged... you'd want mono -> monokingsteven
- Thanks guys! I've watched a lot of the 8bit keys stuff this past week. He does some rad stuff.nocomply
- Kingsteven - can you elaborate on the cable thing? Maybe an amazon link? Like I said, I'm new to this stuff. Or the recording part more specifically.nocomply
- And that PSS-390 is almost *exactly* what I'm after, but it looks like they're really hard to find. Oh well. the one I got is super fun for now.nocomply
- One thing I'll say... the build and the keys of the PSR-12 are surprisingly good.nocomply
- prob these little adapters https://is.gd/rctX70… and one side of a regular phono (RCA) cable are your best bet.kingsteven
- i got a pss-390 as a kid and it's probably the reason i got in to synths. i set out to collect all the PSS models at one point. Got about 10 in the attic :Dkingsteven
- And although the demo music from the 390 is a joy, top spot goes to: https://www.youtube.…kingsteven
- nocomply0
Hey Kingsteven - Is this the kind of cable you're referring to?
Would it transmit the mono sound to both the left and right speakers even if I only plug in one of the RCA connectors?
- kingsteven1
@no comply... just a normal phono and a phono-jack adapter will do (i'm assuming your audio iterface is mono jack in)... these are handy to have around but get the all metal adaptors if you can, the plastic ones break easy
- kingsteven1
Learning curve of the day - live coding library for m4l.
The easiest way to understand what mutateful does is by comparing it to a traditional spreadsheet. Let's say you have two numbers that you'd like to multiply. You put one number in cell A1, another in A2, and in A3 you enter the following (very simple) formula: =A1 * A2. Cell A3 will then contain the result of this operation, and will update automatically whenever A1 or A2 changes.
Since the session view in Ableton Live presents clips in a spreadsheet-like grid, mutateful works the same way, only with more musically interesting commands. For instance, you could shuffle the contents of clip A1 using the contents of clip A2. The pitch values of the various notes in clip A2 would then be used to shuffle the order of notes in A1. Similar to the example above, we would like the result to be inserted into clip A3, but instead of using a spreadsheet command we will use a mutateful command, as follows: =A1 shuffle -by A2. In this example, A1 is a source clip (i.e. the clip that will be transformed), and A2 is the control clip (i.e. the clip that controls the transformation). The latter could be omitted, in which case clip A1 would be shuffled using itself as the control clip. The formula for this would simply be =A1 shuffle.
- section_0144
Crazy how Behringer went from releasing equipment known to be shit quality, to releasing every fucking synth I ever wanted. For peanuts.
- not to be a hater, but all of this stuff hasn't been out long enough for people to really know if the quality is shit.. give it a couple of years..autoflavour
- It’s Depeche-tasticprophetone
- 3:30 is greatprophetone
- heh i imagine better build quality than the originals in many cases. couldn't believe the first time i lifted an original pro-1 and it flexed in the middle.kingsteven
- one of the big problems with the old gear is it requires reflow soldering to repair... so many repair shops doing games consoles and phones these days...kingsteven
- i'd even say there's hope for my garage full of duff behringer rack gear.kingsteven
- i had one of the originals and this sounds bang on the money. without the dirty switches.hans_glib
- autoflavour2
Same day I got hit with a $4500 tax bill, this arrives..
- The drum machine, not the keyboardautoflavour
- sweet dolch'sprophetone
- Yeah, fan of that also..autoflavour
- sorry about your tax bill :/zarkonite
- fffuck. that thing is sweetfuturefood
- mg330
Gets good at about 3 minutes.
- from the first time i saw cubase in 1992 to this day never used any other software for making music. the flexibility always amazed me...renderedred
- gotta lurve grain synthesishans_glib
- mg330
renderedred,
I really want to get into this kind of stuff. Every time I see sound-making videos like this I keep thinking maybe that's my missing piece. Always working on music but the stuff that's more ambient leaning I fall victim to thinking in my band-rock-song mode as far as song structures. One of the reasons I like having an iPad with me at work and on my commute is for making more sculptural sounds, with a few different apps. I do a lot less of that if I'm sitting down in front of a computer and my guitars and keyboards.
In the video Deru talks about using a Roli Seaboard with this. I've got one of those, I've got Logic, I've got an Arturia BeatStep.
What's my first step in getting into Max MSP and messing around with basic stuff using the Roli?
- oh just saw this... sorry. will address.renderedred
- as far as i know, you can "host" or connect anything to cubase. depends what version of cubase you have it should even be automatic. or you may need a customrenderedred
- plugin. other than that you can do it manually in device setup, i did it with some old keyboards not supported anymore.renderedred
- when "mapped" correctly you can "record" all of the MIDI inputs in detail.renderedred
- this gives you the flexibility to play with sound and have it saved for later use. record everything, that's what i do.renderedred
- don't know about logic tho.renderedred
- prophetone1
- what?!??!futurefood
- but now, this or the crave? i can't decide.futurefood
- uhhh this! imo... if this thing turns out as being leaked and that price point I might need two, in silver 'n blackprophetone
- i missed the price. what's it priced at?futurefood
- Was temporarily up on Thomann.de for €150 https://i.imgur.com/…prophetone
- %$^#! ok, this!futurefood
- Which give or take is $165 USD or $220 CADprophetone
- Im ready to poke both eyes out i can't believe pricefuturefood
- ok, i will hold off for now. but still, buy two and still cheaper than xoxbox?futurefood
- yep apparently hahaprophetone
- autoflavour8
took a new studio photo..
its kind of full.
- dunno what you mean, plenty of room for expansion. get buying!hans_glib
- Nice. Any links to some of your tracks? I'm sure you've posted in the past. Is it the usual 'all the gear, no idea'Ianbolton
- Bwahahahaha.. all gear no idea for the last 20’yearsautoflavour
- SoundCloud.com/auto6...autoflavour
- 4autoflavour
- needs moooarrrrprophetone
- man!renderedred
- that sherman filter bank..too sexyfuturefood
- Yeah, they are ok.. a bit unusable.. just so fucking gnarly all the timeautoflavour
- Is that a MIDI'ed Juno 6?emphor
- orgasmic********
- Nope, juno pureautoflavour
- Juno arp is clocked to the analog4 and the filter is patched to take cv from anywhereautoflavour
- That's cool and imma let you finish, but what the world really needs is a KAWS x Totoro collaboration.garbage
- But seriously you have a tiny museum at this point.garbage
- efffin' Drool...!keewee
- KAWS TOTORO.. fucking yes.autoflavour
- and yes, its a working museumautoflavour
- do you at least record other people if not yourself?renderedred
- prophetone3
- it's def brighter sounding than 303 so not exaccct match, but i mean c'monprophetone
- I was like nah.. but then the editor.. do i curse my studio with behringerautoflavour
- his TB-303 as lovely as it sounds the filter doesnt go as high as it should. i've seen comparisons with the RE-303 which are far closer.kingsteven
