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- ok_not_ok0
Put them on all the pages
- uuuuuu0
i can think of plenty of business pamphlets where the contact info on the front would be much more effective in generating sales/customers then on the back. in this type of situation the client is correct even though it offends your picky design sensibility.
Also I have come to realize that many designers are passive aggressive, ineffective communicators. The amount of similar threads on QBN, some designer out there can't figure out how to talk to a client about the work.
All you have to do is respond promptly to the request that you don't feel it presents their company appropriately and offer some alternatives.
- true, very true, that's why I suggested he just put it on the front and make it look goodmonospaced
- right, and done.uuuuuu
- CALLES0
ask her how does she like her coffee
- iCanHazQBN0
I just threatened to set her car on fire. Have I taken this too far?
- doesnotexist0
it's a brochure.
- iCanHazQBN0
I hate that someone with zero design experience can feel inclined to tell a designer how to design. She's unaware that I've worked with major national brands and have all this experience under my belt (and if I mention this, I come off as an asshole). She comes off so silly sounding... like someone telling Michael Jordan how to play basketball.
- it's more like a fat fan telling Shaq that he should make more free throwsmonospaced
- Are you comparing yourself to Jordan? Are you the Michael Jordan of design?nb
- nb, I think you missed the point...iCanHazQBN
- Here.. "It's like telling an expert in their field how to do their work." Is that better?iCanHazQBN
- Yeah, I'm just kidding around. But, the way you phrased is pretty telling of designers when it comes to outside input.nb
- Everyone thinks they're Michael Jordan. Or at least, that no one who isn't a designer could ever have an opinion that is valid.nb
- iCanHazQBN0
- Don't tell me how to kern, bitch.iCanHazQBN
- LOLohhhhhsnap
- jtb260
I believe you're looking for this:
http://99u.com/articles/18303/we…
- iCanHazQBN0
^ Actually, the email I sent her was pretty educational. I stood my ground, but gave good reasons, and also offered to find another solution if she still disagreed.
- Fair enough.jtb26
- Then I fed her hair into the copy machine.iCanHazQBN
- Wasn't trying to be a dick with that btw. Honestly thought it might be helful.jtb26
- *helpfuljtb26
- loljtb26
- No I didn't think you were being a dick at all. Was a good read. Thanks.iCanHazQBN
- jerk0
- That's EXACTLY what I was thinking, but decided not to mention it. I will if she pushes back.iCanHazQBN
- This is what I was going to say. Only restaurant menus put their info in the front.instrmntl
- jtb260
I swear to christ that we're going to start writing in our contracts that we (the agency) have final authority on designs. After extensive upfront requirements gathering we take our projects into design and production. The client is welcome to request and discuss changes with us. We'll listen to them, but if we disagree we'll do it the way we think is best, explain why. They can either use the finished product or find someone else to do it.
Obviously sometimes there are legitimate business restraints, or strategic shifts that occur that necessitate change. Or sometimes we're just wrong and need to listen and adapt. But when it comes to the aesthetic and user experience they can get bent.
It takes a certain amount of clout and financial stability to be this way but if you have a line of people willing to work with you I think it's worth it to take a hard line stance. "This is our expertise, not yours. You've seen our work, and you hired us. This is our call, if you don't like it you can find someone else to do it." It's how Paul Rand rolled.
- they act like it's life or death. trust your fucking designer!ohhhhhsnap
- cotton0
I feel like it's a matter of discussion. Ask her what her concerns are for having the information on the front, feel free to let her know that from your experience, it's difficult to place the information on the front without cheapening the design - as you put it. See how she responds and address her concerns with potential solutions.
Seems like this might be a lot harder to do via email or phone rather than face to face.
- cannonball19780
I'm sure it's just me, but if the logo is on the front, who wouldn't the contact info go on the front as well?
- I think it depends on the kind of brochure it is, and what it's selling or communicatingmonospaced
- CALLES0
but what kinda company is it that has this pamphlet!?
- identity0
I know we're all having a laugh here, but I can start to see why I've read 20 different 'viral' online articles about chauvinism in the workplace this week.
Maybe embrace the challenge as an option? Make the MAIN content of the front contact information. At the very least you've done as she's asked and told her to take a flying fuck at the same time.
- fadein110
^ what he said.