Learning Photography
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- pinkfloyd0
Where can I find cheap models. The search tool on modelmayhem kinda sucks.
- formed0
It's really pretty good. Not having names and stupid assigned numbers is dumb, though.
You can search by pretty much everything. I organize by activity so you don't go looking at people that haven't been to the site in years.
Just reach out, explain what you want. You'll find some will give you a rate, you might find some that will work for trade (TFP).
Meetup.com - I strongly encourage you (might have already done before) to go to some. The organizer will find the model and organize everything and you just show up and shoot with other photogs. There are endless options (I used to host a bunch).
You'll get to shoot models w/o the headache of no shows (these are young girls, the chance of them not showing up is a very real possibility and happens) and you can also learn from other photogs, ask questions, watch how others direct models, etc.
I learned a ton and made some great friends.
- pango0
^ for getting models... http://theoatmeal.com/comics/hoo…
- pinkfloyd0
Can I get names or links to photographers who's work is artistic? Thanks!
- pango0
I like Gregory Crewdson
- vaxorcist0
There's a ton of artistic photographers.... what are you looking for specifically?
- formed0
Take a look at sites like www.calikartel.com and www.fashiongonerogue.com. There are numerous exceptional fashion photographers out there, really depends on your style.
- Is this effect done via lightroom or some lense? http://calikartel.co…pinkfloyd
- lighting with a large diffuse sidelight into a mostly white room, + slight desaturation, tele lensvaxorcist
- Simple lighting, looks like curves are tweaked to bring out highlights and lighten blacks, desaturated a tad, a little warmingformed
- pinkfloyd, are you talking about the old vintage "look" of the colors?HijoDMaite
- that is probably done with LR5 yes but preset filters are used maybe by VSCO or other third party companies or custom made by the artistHijoDMaite
- presets by the artist/photogHijoDMaite
- vaxorcist0
many beginners think it's "the lens" or "the photoshop/lightroom" tweek, when "it" is often a combination of the lighting, the lens and lens angle, but most of all, the model, the stylist and the art direction that goes for radical simplicity, which is as we all know, often a difficult thing for real clients who keep wanting more stuff in the photo....
post processing tweeks like desaturation can look nice, but they depend a great deal on the right model, the expression, a bit of diffused side light or something that gives smoothness and contrast at the same time, as well as clothing choices that work well with a desaturated aesthetic... so, in a way, it's not so much the post-production idea was first, but rather the post-production tweeks were done in relation to the shoot... a different set of images may give more saturation, not less, i.e. see the image by Jean-Paul Bourdier above....
there's also www.fashioneditorals.com and many others....
- vaxorcist0
RE: models... it's a bit momentum-based.... i.e. once you have a few great photos of your photogenic friends, getting real models to work with you is much easier, and they're much more likely to take you seriously and not flake, even if they do charge $$.... you'll also get better models....
good models don't want wanne-be photographers, the infamous "guy with camera" of "gwc" is what they fear and hate
good photographers don't want wanna-be models, they'd rather have "real people" or "real models" or maybe somebody with a good work ethic and is capable of learning who wants to be a model...
I have found that, once I email some good samples to any prospective model, even for a test shoot, everything goes better, especially if they've talked to anyone I've previously worked with.
This is very, very reputation based business, if you're nervous, people will figure it out, so practice a lot with patient friends.
- pinkfloyd0
I found this tutorial on the basics of lighting helpful
- vaxorcist0
the image @jaylarson linked above didn't show up for me, so
try this excercise, go into a bathroom and turn off the lights, stand and look at your own face in the mirror...use your smartphone's blank screen as a light source and try to do what the animated GIF did above to your own face.... learn angles and beware that you have to "reverse" this when you are behind the camera.
- formed0
Quality models, makeup and clothing completely make the shoot. We often joke that anyone could show up at a Vogue shoot and get some great pics with an iphone. That's not 100% true, but mostly.
It is the team that will make the difference and the ability of the photog to assemble the team that matters (that includes budget, talent, etc.). Why I am not shooting for Vogue ;-)
But keep it in mind. I won't shoot w/o a mua these days and try not to w/o a stylist. A year ago I'd do anything. Hiring/finding a quality model and mua will put your portfolio years ahead of the pack.
Meetups.com are really the fastest way to learn w/o spending ridiculous amounts for workshops. Then practice, practice, practice.
I have a library of lighting diagrams I made to analyze photos I liked. Same thing with poses. There are great books out there that will get you started, too.
- very true, and pretty much what my mentors have told me
vaxorcist
- very true, and pretty much what my mentors have told me
- pinkfloyd0
Thinking of getting an x-e1 for the portability, and selling the 5dmii. Is there really that much of difference in image quality? Can I get same results after post processing?
- formed0
The X-E1 is a great camera. You have a big difference in mp, though.
Personally, I am moving to the Sony A7R once they have more lenses (and selling my D800 and nikkor glass).
Fuji is supposed to be coming out w/ a full frame version sometime, but who knows, maybe go read rumors. If they do, that'd be a nice upgrade.
- Is there enough of a difference in image quality between the x-e1 and 5dmii? I'm ok with 16mppinkfloyd