We are heading into a wall
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- benfal99
34min documentary. watch it. even if we already know what it says.
People who said everything will be fine are lying to themselves.
And we should saying "we're destroying ourselves and the Planet" instead of "we're destroying the Planet" ... in the end the Planet will be fine, when we will all get extinct.
Oh and have a good weekend y'all! :D
- ETM0
Whatever. You know they were saying the same thing when our parents were young. In the 70's it was all about, not enough oil or energy, population is growing too large, there will be no food. They said the planet couldn't support 6 billion people (in the 70's it was about 4.5 billion). Now we're at 7.5 billion.
- Don't forget the 30's.ETM
- *.7.1 billion, not 7.5.ETM
- well numbers and short timelines are fascinating but at some point, in the long run, something's gotta give imoprophetone
- That can be said of anything AND everything. Pretty blanket statement.ETM
- it is a blanket statement but it rings true. take a step back for a minute and look at this place.prophetone
- we're in a pickle, the question is how far into the future do we get toothpick'd to the sandwich?prophetone
- Well, I am curious, what's your plan? What are you doing? Any suggestions for us?ETM
- prophetone0
i've always felt this way. times heals all with regard to the planet. yes, we're wrecking it, but if we were to vanish tomorrow it would heal itself.
what we need to be worried about is the ability to sustain human life in the long run. we have always been headed in a bad direction - one that should wake people up one day in the future when we're all like, 'oh all that sh*t we did there means all the bees are dead whoops, now we have no crops which means we can't feed the animals as well. oh, i guess nobody eats. the end.'
- pango0
let's get laid?
- ETM0
Most of these types of projections are flawed as they use current and near future data and models. However, technology and methods evolve throwing these models from their predictive curve, one way or the other. Predicting future consumption, terms and limits based on current ideals is flawed to begin with. It's all we have, as we can't see the future, but time and time again we have proven expectations wrong (both in the positive and negative).
By no means does that mean throw caution to the wind and abandon responsibility, but simply that many of these predictive studies and docs are another form of fear mongering, if not though, for a far more noble cause.
- shhhhhht,
ze computer told us we're going to destroy the planet!! like BOOOOOMMMGeorgesIV
- shhhhhht,
- ohhhhhsnap0
who is "we"?
- ETM0
A good example of speculation over what actually happened (however US demand did increase in 2013).
- prophetone0
Agreed, really, advances in tech are certainly going to solve many probs related diseases, food shortages, our ability to live longer lives etc.
So maybe hitting the wall may never come, or it will be a few steps from us but thanks to the above we can avoid smacking into it.
However, "By no means does that mean throw caution to the wind and abandon responsibility..." Well, we kinda have been doing that for the last hundred years don'cha think? Fact is, we give more and more 'power' to worldwide, faceless organizations that just love throwing caution to the wind b/c $$. "We'll just apologize later."
'Hey, it's just a river, get your drinking water from somewhere else. A little crude oil won't hurt anyone. Fish somewhere else. Hey guys how about we build these sweet reactors next to the ocean in the middle of an earthquake zone?'
I feel like these are the things that will return to bite us in the ass. Sh*t is adding up, albeit slowly for the most part. Is pointing that type of thing out fear mongering? Some days yes. I think it's more of an old-fashioned way of looking at things w/o getting caught up in predictions and projections.
We are fools to think we will never have to eventually 'pay the piper.'
Also, as a side note, probs mother nature is going to have the last laugh regardless of our efforts to stay safe 'n cozy on the planet. Maybe it's a new viral outbreak we can't fight or a volcano that creates a wintery globe for a few decades, effectively killing most of us. Whatever it may be, we are not as in control as we would like to think. Just an opinion.
- As a society, we are FAR more responsible than 200 years ago with the industrial revolution.ETM
- Believe it or not, less ignorant or oblivious, though it may not feel that way.ETM
- indeed, but now we can destroy an ecosystem by forgetting to have our coffee and not pishing that buttonprophetone
- so better yes but easier to muck things up in a hurry and in a big wayprophetone
- or... in the case of fukushima, mother nature took care of that for usprophetone
- prophetone0
BTW, I am considering developing a line of children's books entitled 'It's Fun for Now, But We're All Toast'
- introduction by Debbie Downer.ETM
- she's not available :(prophetone
- Waa-waaETM
- lol
Probably a market for that bookukit2 - kickstarter it. I will fund for whole series.meffid
- benfal990
Seriously watch the full video.
The facts are all there. This is pure logical mathematics.- save this video and look at it in 15 years for the lolGeorgesIV
- but... but pure logical mathematics is Science, and you already accused us of putting too much hope in that. WTF?monospaced
- lolETM
- albums0
benfal found his new zeitgeist video to refer to and preach from?
- benfal990
Ok forget it. W´ere all on the right way, everything will be fine, humanz are great! Our choices are all good and science rock and will fix everything for ever.
- prophetone0
benfal, we're toast :(
- zarkonite0
You actually believe this junk?
- albums0
what's it like finding your fears in all these videos you watch ben?
ever make a decision on your own? you seem to give so much importance to things that have been produced by others, or at least videos you find on youtube.
you are the epitome of ignorance is bliss. you didn't care shit one about this 48 hours ago, now we all NEED to watch this and furthermore, agree?
there is no solution in watching this drivel. the solution is the people themselves, so until you actually start changing the way you are, nothing will change.
that is why things keep getting worse.
no. one. cares. no one ever has. this is why people quote MLK one day a year but forget his words the other 364 days. it's the same reason millions of people hated KONY... from facebook. Acting like you care is not making a difference. Clicking a like button is not activism, buying a product for charity is not a movement.
you have no clue who any of us really are, so why preach to monikers? what sense of satisfaction do you draw from telling others to agree with your new found opinions? what more do you draw from belittling or insulting those who oppose your opinions?
I do it for perspective. I don't need strangers to like me, as I have made quite evident over the years, I only present an opposing opinion for perspective, sometimes one I myself don't agree with. there are two sides to everything, they're never as simple as right or wrong either.
If you want to make a difference, put in the work, get elected, try to affect policy. Create a multi billion dollar company and use that power for good instead of hoarding the profits like a good capitalist would.
For you to tell me to keep my head in the ground is nothing more than an flailing insult to someone who simply doesn't want to agree with you.
fuck your youtube video link, fuck your selfishness. people just like you created the world you now complain about living in.
admit it ben, you're a human being just like the rest of us.
- albums0
Though I likely could have said something as simple as...
If people put as much effort into changing themselves as they do attempting to change others, the world as we know it would be a vastly different place.
- ZOOP0
benfal, these are humans you're talking about, you know... the ones who play soccer with human heads
here's an analogy: asteroid is headed to earth; planet killer. worldwide news release says the only system to save us is made from (or uses) gold. in a side note, news reports announce the shockingly high price gold will be at after we're saved.
what do you think will happen?
- prophetone0
...and what do they say about effort x judging others over lolcube preaching squared?
thing is, we all have opinions and beliefs which is not a news flash. this is the positive not the negative. learn from it. accept it. relax kid.
ETM thinks we're cool because has has stats and that's great, i follow a different set of beliefs, the call 'em like you see 'em kind. it's all good.
you see, we're all going to hell in a rocket-powered handbasket, so, stop wasting time on the web and go coffin shopping in-stead. peace.
- also, aliens. they're coming. we're toast.prophetone
- you are the worst guystepson
- i'm a guy with an opinion, like you. but unlike you i won't get personal or judge u. who's the worst?prophetone
- thanks tho that was nice, i hope u at least feel good about it b/c if not, why botherprophetone
- but maybe you're having a laugh. sh*t who knows. i hope so b/c having a laugh is what's goodprophetone
- but... you know, i am the worst actually. prob not a good idea to put me in the same room w/ anxiety sufferersprophetone
- either wayprophetone
- You call 'em like you see 'em. Based on what, YouTube and general media consumption?ETM
- Can you post a link to your dissertation on this?ETM