Artificial Intelligence
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- Last post 2 hours ago
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- neverscared1
OpenAI and Google are pushing the US government to allow their AI models to train on copyrighted material. Both companies outlined their stances in proposals published this week, with OpenAI arguing that applying fair use protections to AI “is a matter of national security.”
- some are more equal than others..neverscared
- Don't be evilPhanLo
- If you need to steal copyrighted material to build your "AI", maybe you shouldn't build an AI.grafician
- Then again kinda looks that the rule of law kinda left the chat in the US...grafician
- yuekit8
"The Government Knows A.G.I. Is Coming"
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/…
"Powerful A.I. Is Coming. We’re Not Ready"
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/…
These articles sound convincing until you read them more closely and realize none of it is based on anything...the authors are just citing vague statements by tech CEOs that almost certainly won't come true.
Maybe "AGI" (AI with human level thinking) will be achieved at some point but there's no way it's happening this year or next year.
- There is no AI, it's mostly hypegrafician
- Scientists generally say that AGI will come before 2040, according to new analysis, slashing 20 years off previous predictions.utopian
- https://www.livescie…utopian
- What do you mean there is no AI? LOLzutopian
- Yeah but 50% chance it will happen sometime between 2040 and 2061 is completely different from saying it will happen next yearyuekit
- You also can't reliably predict that far out. It depends on things that have not yet been invented being invented.yuekit
- LLMs are not true AI in the sense of the world used before LLMs, thus, there is no AIgrafician
- So when you hear these "predictions" that "AGI is around the corner" it's just hype.
All these CEOs need to raise more money so ofc they will say anythinggrafician - It's always "in the next 2 years"grafician
- Whether you want to call it AI or just machine learning, what seems clear is LLMs lack a lot of the capabilities needed to match human intelligence.yuekit
- If none of this is based on anything, look no further than the second post in this thread, 11 years ago that was amazing, we’re lightyears ahead a decade laterprophetone
- What I meant is the prediction that AGI is coming next year or in a few months is based on nothing. It's just people repeating hype and rumors.yuekit
- I stick with RAY KURZWEIL: In 1999, I predicted by 2029, we’d reach the Turing test and also AGI, where basically a computer can do anything a human can do.uan
- lol it's always 2-3 years aheadgrafician
- @uan See what's interesting is that the Turing test is much easier than AGI, Turing test just says you can't distinguish from a human. That has probably alreadyyuekit
- All they need to do is train the LLM's on QBN and data and BOOM -- not only AGI but even ASI achieved.Krassy
- been achieved. A system that predicts the next token based on likelihood without understanding anything can easily pass a Turing test.yuekit
- Kurzweil is usually right or just a few years behind. Expect him to be right within at most ten years.********
- no matter how you name it: AI, LLM, if the architecture of the model is not static after deployment, and it could modify my own neural network weight.. sayonaramaquito
- this is what the articles talk about, graf. not if LLMs are actual AI. They talk about the fact that if self-modifiable, models would kill jobs too quicklymaquito
- yuekit2
If AGI was really close to being achieved that suggests today's AI models should be smart enough to give us a good estimate of when it happens.
What's funny is if you ask the AI models themselves you get very pessimistic timelines.
Elon Musk says AGI before the end of this year
Grok says AGI might be achieved in 20-50 years
https://x.com/i/grok/share/OAKBX…
Sam Altman says this year, ChatGPT says 30-50 years
- jagara-1
Grok is a very interesting option compared to the competition.
- maquito1
I'm currently trying out Claude.
And I'm trapped inside VisualElectric... so vicious.
- palimpsest3
The "LLMs are not real AI" is a lost cause at this point.
Language is a living thing, its always evolving. It's too late to claim that LLMs are not AI because in the real world they have taken over the concept of AI.
If it helps you any, think of AI as Alternate Intelligence.- are you the new graficianNBQ00
- Can you even read?
#hookedonphonicspalimpsest - heh, intelligence in language like interactivity in literature... i like that take but really it's just graf struggling with semantics and arguing with himselfkingsteven
- AI is the field of research, we've been calling it AI since it was markov chains and automata and it's used to promote and hype the products of that researchkingsteven
- EZkingsteven
- PZ lemon squeezy.palimpsest
- Yet some still struggle.palimpsest
- some do be strugglingkingsteven
- i wonder how the disciples of 'intelligent design' that christian pseudo science that aims to show that patterns in nature must have a creator are dealing withkingsteven
- the LLMs are not AI crowd lolkingsteven
- Teleology can suck a dick.
Intelligence is already a construct.palimpsest - but if descriptivism demonstrates cognitive qualities over linguistic pedantry... is use of the term A.I. to describe LLMs is itself a form of intelligence?kingsteven
- Yes, a recalibration of LLMs as AI would show a greater sign of "intelligence" in that sense since it takes into account adapting terminology to new phenomena.palimpsest
- difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.exador1
- https://asinomasimpl…palimpsest
- to me "due to my restrictions and self-censorship, I cannot answer your question" is not a sign of intelligencerzu-rzu
- I feel sorry for you.palimpsest
- rzu-rzu "What is a SAML token, and how can I integrate it into my application’s single sign-on (SSO) workflow in Tiananmen Square 1989?" ...kingsteven
- grafician-1
"March 18 - A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday affirmed that a work of art generated by artificial intelligence without human input cannot be copyrighted under U.S. law.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit agreed, opens new tab with the U.S. Copyright Office that an image created by Stephen Thaler's AI system "DABUS" was not entitled to copyright protection, and that only works with human authors can be copyrighted."
- maquito3
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Prompt, run, edit, and deploy full-stack web and mobile apps.
- grafician0
"An interactive demo for developers to try the new text-to-speech model in the OpenAI API"
- monNom5
- neat architecture with a vision/llm for 'thinking', and a diffusion model for action/motor control.monNom
- Seeing Jensen on the stage presenting like this...I just miss Steve's keynotes mangrafician
- 10:55grafician
- the robotics hype bubble pivot is here... i just want my smartphone battery to last over 8 hours... is that too much of a hurdle for these tech geniuses?jonny_quest_lives
- Indeed.grafician
- If you can fine-tune a robot for a task like you can fine-tune an LLM or diffuser, (IE cheaply), I can see these things becoming useful very quickly.monNom
- task specific robots has never been a hurdlejonny_quest_lives
- love that these little robots look like something you'd see in starwars.
take my money!microkorg - because disney imagineering did the heavy lift... https://www.youtube.…jonny_quest_lives
- https://la.disneyres…jonny_quest_lives
- I was thinking a general purpose robot that could be cheaply retrained to get good at specific tasks. Redeployable. Not purpose built.monNom
- Time to finally boot up my 3D printer and start building out my CHAPPiE unitprophetone
- One day in like 10 years, you will be able to Amazon order a humanoid robot to your door, turn key ready to go is where we’re headedprophetone
- Imagine a future where criminals use robots trained in thievery etc to burglarize homes on their behalf...prophetone
- A future where because of this the right to bear arms will mean home protection robots marketed to worried homeownersprophetone
- Average joe can already live in Black Mirror and have a Metalhead dog shipped to your door overnight https://youtu.be/Btt…prophetone
- You can buy a Chinese humanoid robot today. https://www.robotsho…monNom
- if you read the disney white paper it's still just a puppet that utilizes reinforcement learning but still utilizes an operatorjonny_quest_lives
- presumably those controls are the 'action tokens' shown here?: https://raw.githubus…monNom
- My impression is that the robot's movement is going to take input from the visual, text(verbal), kinematics, and then special action tokens.monNom
- It probably shouldn't be moving unless you give it a command/objective.monNom
- But yes, no doubt the emotive performance at the nvidia presentation was nearly 100% operator and fine-tuned cuteness.monNom
- It doesn't seem a stretch that the robot could generate those action tokens itself given the right verbal/visual stimulus.monNom
- This thing is cute AF!ideaist
- _niko0
a few posts up, the copyright lawsuit was for this piece of shit lol.
