So David Icke was right?
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- Last post 6 years ago
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- ********-10
- lol I assume the downvoters didn't even read it. I'm right aren't I... ?
How intelligent of you.******** - and by read, naturally I meant watch. I'm intelligent and more awake, you see.********
- but not as much as georges********
- he's my jesus********
- he puts together a thoughtful argumentGnash
- lol I assume the downvoters didn't even read it. I'm right aren't I... ?
- georgesIII-9
good inquest
- I posted this vid less than 10min ago, what kind of conditioning you have to go through in your life to automatically downvote something without even seeing it,georgesIII
- you don't like a subject, just close the thread, but downvoting something like this without even watching it, speaks much volumegeorgesIII
- Some people r ignant, and r addicted to the floride in the water.yurimon
- georgesIII-12
there's someone here that can't accept that the people in powers have been raping children since the dawn of men, so instead of confronting the problem, he downvoted every post that is critical of this sick system,
I can't wrap my mind around this kind of mentality and it was all in the last 15 min,
- psychopathy, Sheridan has best simplest explication. however its been alot of focus on EU. the states have nothing on the Euro stuffs. its sickyurimon
- That's probably because the USA is only 250 yrs old. They've been doing this for millennia in Europe. Just look up what's going on with Lord Janner right now.Morning_star
- Some poor cunt. His world view will come crashing down around him sooner or later. Relax.********
- ApeRobot0
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- georgesIII-11
OMG, lololol reptilians lololol,
guys let's not talk about our politicians fucking kids (even dead one),
let's post pictures of lizard instead,
lol, right,
btw have you seen that picture of the boy with the AK47, that shit totally made me lose faith in humanity... fuck human scum,
or that pic with the abused dog that got his revenge, totally faith in humanity lost,
right??
ooh saville raped more than 100 kids, probably sending some to his powerful friends,
fuck it, why should we care, they're not ours, lolololol
btw, have you seen that hillary logo, awful, faith totally lost in HUMANITY,
AMYRITE??
- Stop being a prick.********
- You're expending energy moaning on QBN, rather than out saving the world. Hypocrite.********
- :)********
- If your 'mission' is to sway people's opinions towards those of your own, do you think talking to them like they're utter idiots is the best way of doing it?********
- The Message is more important but yes action is needed at some point set. people will get what they sow, ignorance will not save.yurimon
- @set - exactly... his delivery is retarded.
why so patronising? we also read weird shit! we are not all sheep. Chill the fuck out - you are a classic example..fadein11 - All talking like this does is encourage people to oppose your viewpoint, even if they agree with it, because you're behaving like a cunt....********
- and people don't like that. I should know.********
- of a person that turns people away from a certain way of thinking. chillax already.fadein11
- set who tell you I haven't done shit, do I have to come here and tell my past experiences, I think it's disgusting that people still can joke about this thengeorgesIII
- turn around and pretend to be offended by the issue of the day, but you're a specialist, so maybe you can give me a lesson or twogeorgesIII
- you make qbn boringernexbcn
- Georges - relax. if you want to change the world - try to do that - become the new Icke. whatever. but don't nause people on a design forum... really!fadein11
- lol you're a touchy fuck. I'm not pretending to be offended at all, and I'm certainly not actually offended. You couldn't offend me if you tried.********
- 'AMYIRTE?' this kind of adolescent retarded txt speak will win you many supporters lolfadein11
- I'm just pointing out the impotent banality of your post.********
- what a bunch of azholez.
http://www.qbn.com/s…yurimon - If you'd engage people with respect, intelligence, eloquence and even a touch of modesty then you might not incite these kind of replies.********
- @ernex - coming from you non the less,
@fade: just by talking about it, I'm making something, I just do not accept that people will disagree with a subjectgeorgesIII - The message is only as clear as it's delivery. Now GFY, one and all.********
- just because they believe it's bullshit, without looking at facts
@ set: please come down of that minuscule horse of yoursgeorgesIII - your point is often shrouded in an abstract rhetoric which at times borders on the absurd. try to make your point a little more clearly - Icke is good at that.fadein11
- lol irony********
- what don't you get fadein11, seriously, what don't you understand, please explain it to me, so I can break it to yougeorgesIII
- chill out georges, posting about reptilian overlords is just as relevant to Icke as anything, and it doesn't detract from your personal crusade to fix the 'netmonospaced
- Being an annoying morally superior cunt is never a good way to spread even the best of messages. I should know.********
- mono my beef isn't about the pictures or reptilian, it's about people that downvote post or article just for the subject, not for the contentgeorgesIII
- Set is the one to save us!!!!yurimon
- they find it boring on a design forum - post more of your personal eco-techno projects - they may be upvoted!fadein11
- @set, for the love of god, buy a mirror on your way home, you're like the most hypocrite on this website, how can you even pretend to have a moral compass, lolgeorgesIII
- It takes more to be sincere and honest and have a discussion that it is t be patronizing and put others down.instrmntl
- 100 set posts incominggeorgesIII
- It Wednesday afternoon and I am arguing with some odd character about the validity of reptilian posts... WTF... I am out of here.fadein11
- I never said anything about me, just that you're an annoying morally superior cunt, even if I agree with your basic message.********
- Be it shrouded in unintelligible babble********
- @set - precisely - this is the problem - often agree with what he says but its delivered as such meaningless drivel.fadein11
- You've read a few things on the internet and think you're some kind of ghandi-luther-kenobe here to save us all********
- I'm not arguing about the reptilians, I couldn't give two fucks, I'm arguing that posting a well sourced video with a verifiable list of culprits gets downvotedgeorgesIII
- without anyone even having the time to actually watching it, that is what is irritating me, not the reptilians, how can you downvote something you haven'tgeorgesIII
- chillax man - go read a copy of fortean times and have a cuppa or something. this is a design forum - not the united nations.fadein11
- watched, the downvote should be used for things you disagree with, but downvoting just because you don't like the person posting is literally retardedgeorgesIII
- Completely agree, to bad you didn't just say that in the first place.********
- I think people may just automatically downvote you because of past experience.fadein11
- TOO*CUNT********
- @set, maybe I am superior, more intelligent, maybe even better looking, maybe somewhere in your mind, but never have I said it, you're the one continuouslygeorgesIII
- bringing it to the table and somewhere, I'm trying to believe that you have a very low sense of esteem to always retort with the same tired jabsgeorgesIII
- lol if you honestly fail to see how morally superior and patronising your posts are, then there is no hope for you.********
- I'm perfectly aware that I'm a patronising and morally superior cunt too, and I'm ok with that.********
- but let's get that little head out of your butt for you, shall we?********
- maybe but I do not use swear words, so it just makes me a step better than you, are we ok, I finally agree that I'm a superior patronising minds, are you happy?georgesIII
- I can't imagine how tedious life must be without swear words********
- it's called education mate (now that I fully accept my patronising role :) )georgesIII
- but yes you're a step better than me georges.********
- Just to wittle down some coherence out of your unintelligible blabbering, did you just say that 'not swearing is called intelligence' ?
lolcunt******** - Saying swearing is only for the uneducated makes me think you haven't been around many educated people...********
- people!!! this why evil wins cause you cant get your act together. come on. get your shit together cunts.yurimon
- I'm out of popcorn.monospaced
- I'm all out of fucks to give********
- epic blubber comment column right here... wake up Georges - some of us agree - just stop acting like some weird incoherent messiah. and stop feeding the trolls.fadein11
- p.s. stop posting shit to get a reaction - its boring and immature.fadein11
- he loves it********
- Georges is like the girlfriend that always moans about wanting a better relationship but really just secretly enjoys the drama and the moaning about it********
- fucks must be gottenyurimon
- I love georges posts... but sometimes the "morally superior cunt" vibe does come across!inteliboy
- more often than not.inteliboy
- I love Georges too, for the record.********
- Stop being a prick.
- yuekit3
One thing you can say about these theories...they all seem to view the world through a moral prism. The evil cabal oppressing the masses who without this oppression would achieve their real potential.
In that respect it's not much different from other ideologies which all blame some external group. Communism which blames capitalists. Feminism which blames men. Right wing groups which blames immigrants.
Is it possible that the problems and the limitations in the world are real and that blaming some group of elites is just a convenient excuse?
- lol, real potential? What. The. Fuck. Are you talking about? holy shit your brain makes the weirdest connectionsmonospaced
- true, natural law principles have a moralist aspect to them. you have factors of consent through none action. divide and conquer seems to work through outyurimon
- the ages. but I think its more of a cause and effect. action through ignorance of a mass will have an effect. reap what you sow.yurimon
- collective action or lack of action will yield an effect by those who know how to control unless each individual wakes up and yield proper action collectivelyyurimon
- the quality of the mass in action will yield proper results. if ignorant fcks act you get what happened in communist revolution. the energy of the mass stolen.yurimon
- If you still fail to see that diet, education and media is designed to deny humans their true potential, then there is no hope for you.********
- Why are you so convinced that if you left people to their own devices none of those problems would exist? Why blame someone else? Just solve the problems.yuekit
- Also when you take such a negative view it ignores the fact that living conditions have been improving for the vast majority of people.yuekit
- China alone has lifted more people out of poverty in the last 30 years than at any time in human history. So if there are reptilians running things, they'reyuekit
- doing a great job! You should thank them :)yuekit
- Their lives are only better because their lives help fund the corporations. No other reason.********
- Farmers keep their chickens in reasonable conditions.********
- Hardly proves their not free because they are given water and food and some grass to walk around in.********
- they're*********
- Cmon man is your life really that bad? I feel like people have more opportunities and freedom than ever before.yuekit
- Call me crazy but being forced to work 90% of your life in order to just about live comfortably isn't my idea of the good life.********
- Which isn't to say there aren't problems in the world but generally speaking it's a good time to be alive.yuekit
- I love life. I'm fortunate enough to not have to work a 9-5 and live in a wonderful city and share my life with lots of wonderful people. I'm in the 1% though********
- You're living in a fantasy world if you don't think it's designed that way.********
- If by "designed" you mean a combination of planning, human nature and random circumstances, I can agreeyuekit
- But if you mean some small group of people trying to control everyone in the world, I think that's way too simple.yuekit
- but it's fact that a select few families own all of the corporations and control every centralised bank on the planet.********
- But see that's not really a fact...you may have read it somewhere but I can almost guarantee it is not the full pictureyuekit
- lol ok. I know what I'm talking about on this one, but it's clear you don't. We'll leave it at that, I think.********
- set it's easy to debunk. The world's two largest companies are Walmart and a Chinese state owned oil company. You're saying they're owned by the same people??yuekit
- No. I'm saying a small group of people own all of the large corporations. How can anyone deny that?********
- Richest man is a Mexican. Is he in on it?monospaced
- Did you get your information from Zeitgeist?monospaced
- you said "mean some small group of people trying to control everyone in the world, I think that's way too simple"********
- Which would suggest that you think the worlds wealth and power is evenly distributed amongst the population. Which is lolcunt worthy.********
- It's just not accurate. So if that is your starting point it's easy to see how you drew the wrong conclusion about the rest of it.yuekit
- Tell me which bit is inaccurate and exactly why... Please.********
- Not evenly distributed. But big difference between that and controlled by a few families.yuekit
- k********
- whats happening now is nothing new. kings or rulers, or ruling class all manipulated population through various means of control. same shit. diff populace.yurimon
- set why be such an obnoxious cunt? I can't believe how polite and logically written yuekits responses are.inteliboy
- Go fuck yourself, that's why...********
- georgesIII-4
@ukit,
believing in certain theories, pretty much depends on where you were born,
e.g: someone coming from africa, will be more accepting of the theories that the franceafrique is real, because of the accord still dictating every facet of their life,
e.g: someone coming from south america, will be more accepting of the US incursion and destabilisation of their economies than someone coming from a western economy,
e.g: someone coming from the middle east, will be also more aware of the foreign destabilisations ,
and so on and so on,
I often think that the only reason most people in developed countries believe there is no hidden hand is simply because they haven't lived through the repercussions of that hand,
another example, Italians know there's a paralel power/economy running their country, everyone knows it now, but until 30years ago, the mafia didn't exist, even though it was running the country from behind and still is.
I guess it is the same for the subject of pedophilia, most will ignore it because they do not know how ingrained it is in our political system (worldwide) until one day everything will surface (hopefully)
- I get what you're saying. But I think you have to distinguish stuff that is real and well documented...such as Shell Oil's paying off the Nigeria government...yuekit
- and things that are just fantastical, like a single group of people controlling every world government. The existence of corruption and spying does not justifyyuekit
- believing every single theory that is out there.yuekit
- Similar to the comparison I made above, feminists can point to individual instances of discrimination and claim that every man is sexist when that's obviouslyyuekit
- a huge oversimplification. Right wingers can repeat every negative fact about Muslims until it looks like they are taking over the world, etc..yuekit
- People love simple explanations. The messy, complicated reality of the world where no one's really in charge is much scarier.yuekit
- noones ignoring it lol - its all over the news everyday in the UK... jesus - the problem is you view everything form your bubble and presume everyone else is afadein11
- potential enemy... open your mind a little (and not in the conspiracy sense) - there are plenty of people who have the same feelings (here included) - you justfadein11
- come across as a patronising knobend most of the time.fadein11
- @uekit you are also over simplifying, if you look throughout the last century, most african countries were guided and kept in a state of non development bygeorgesIII
- the western monarchies at the time, but I do not want to argue because it has been heavily documented that the world is controlled by a small click of financialgeorgesIII
- elite, I will link you some material.
http://www.telegraph…
the paper itself, read it, quite informativegeorgesIII - and delves a little more about what we often believe we want is often nudge by what the "elite" wants
http://scholar.princ…georgesIII - Both links dead. Conspiracy!!yuekit
- Anyone who downvoted this is truly a retard. You know who you are.********
- detritus-4
Via GunkHokk
- georgesIII-3
@uekit, posting here because the note killed the link,
There is actually a research paper Princeton and Northwestern did that say clearly state that the "elite" has more power to influence policies than the population.
here's the pdf, it's a good read:
http://scholar.princeton.edu/sit…Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politics—which can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralism—offers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.
A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.
- go to the "American Democracy?" bit if you don't want to read the whole thinggeorgesIII
- So rich and powerful people have influence, not really surprising. But they aren't all working together, and don't control everything that happens in the world.yuekit
- These links you're posting don't come close to proving the kind of stuff people like David Icke are claiming.yuekit
- What proof do up you have to back up your belief, ukit?********
- Just curious. The sceptics are often as crazy and illogical as the conspiracy theorists.********
- downvoting a research paper... what's the point to even try anymore
@ukit, what make you think people like eimpstein, clinton, kissinger, etc, follow the samegeorgesIII - set of rules you abide too, didn't you notice the justice doesn't work the same when you have millions/billions in your bank accountgeorgesIII
- perfect example
http://gawker.com/he…georgesIII - People like ukit don't deal in facts, they deal in comforting non-belief system shattering conveniences.********
- yurimon-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=…
seems like it
- yurimon-2
- inteliboy2
So you gather beliefs from David Icke videos?
Soon you'll be saying how we consciousness changes matter at the quantum level because What The Bleep told you so.
Don't get me wrong, I find this stuff fascinating. I saw this guy live last year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dav… --- though to take it oh so seriously, and hammer yuekit down for being the only logical cunt here is really stretching it.
- belief and action are related. probably the main point. as far as quantum or social change it is more likely if belief and action work together more likeyurimon
- 100 monkey experiment related to change perception or experiences.yurimon
- However not sure of your spiritual aptitude, if you ever tried these concepts. but also have to be careful because not to open up to much. there r negativeyurimon
- forces out there.yurimon
- then again is it a belief? how far can this be taken.From my experience what he is saying is only one aspect. its more imbedded in system of kabalah.yurimon
- maybe its related to the feed back of instincts that serve as a warning vs the ability to create your reality. cause obviously a moving car toward means getyurimon
- out the way and not im going to warp reality for it to stop.yurimon
- its an interesting subject.yurimon
- seriously, go back and read what you wrote and tell me that communicates wellmonospaced
- sorry I have to remember there are people who are new to this and dont understand. ill try to talk next time like you are 5yurimon
- No. That's not it. You need to write like you are older than 5. It's practically gibberish the way you can't stay on track and butcher grammar.monospaced
- Good good you're delusional. You make zero sense. Zero.********
- yurimon-3
on fire
- ********0
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- I bet you €10 that someone will come in and slide this video with some asinine comments like "but reptilians, lololol"GeorgesII
- Ridicule, the first action of the ignorant moron.********
- wait, so you want to have a serious discussion now georges? i thought this place was about lololol's...inteliboy
- thanks intelli for reminded me that ad hominems are always better, I enjoy my life, do you? it seems you do not if you have to constantly do little sneakGeorgesII
- This is so sad and so tragic.monospaced
- attacks like a teenage boy.GeorgesII
- @mono, if you want to lose some sleep, google the treatments of natives by catholics nuns in canadaGeorgesII
- Not a single word about reptilians.
I'm disappointed.ApeRobot - ^ not just nuns, georges, the gov't was a full on participant.Gnash
- humans can be so awfulmonospaced
- A sick world they weave.Hayoth
