Ex Machina
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- moldero0
iWood bang both of those robots
- autoflavour1
it was pretty amazing.. there were a lot of plot holes tho.. like how is AVA supposed to survive in the real world if she always had to charge off those special charging pads on the wall..
- what charging pads? I missed thatMiguex
- Charging AVA is not a plot inconsistency, just an unknown.BrokenHD
- One part that seemed forced was how quickly the guy snapped and started cutting himselfyuekit
- she says she uses the charging pads to reverse the flow of the power, which causes the shutdowns.autoflavour
- renderedred0
saw it the other day. not bad at all and was worth a watch. some plot inconsistencies that can be ignored as mentioned here before me.
the only thing i could not ignore is below par acting by two male characters. a few scenes were were very bad.- and yes, i was mostly impressed by the house.renderedred
- omg0
best scene in the movie....
- Hayoth1
I thought this was a pretty good movie. I was kind of sad the tech ceo died. If you are bored, go.
- yuekit0
At one point I thought the "twist" was going to be that he watched the video and found out the tech CEO was also a robot. The original guy died a long time ago and the robots were just self replicating themselves.
- inteliboy0
Mate, this movie is something. Was glued. Agreed with the criticisms in this thread, but feel they were small and easy to overlook, no movie is perfect. I also liked the mystery and gaps in the plot. Overall a very very solid film.
- this + bladerunner + ghost in the shell = would make a great movie marathoninteliboy
- Miguex0
I kept thinking that the interviewer was a robot because he opened his wrist and didn't die
- that's what he was thinking, and realized that he was bleeding really bad, and stoppedmonospaced
- Slitting his own wrists in thinking that he could be unwary of being a robot.omg
- ^great sceneomg
- Miguex0
More on the "Juvet Landscape Hotel" in Norway.
- monospaced0
That dance scene, though.
- omg0
Mechanically speaking, in between her legs was an opening with a concentration of many sensors. Engage them the right way, would create a pleasure response she would enjoy. Thoughts?
- formed0
Finally saw it (thanks Amazon for finally renting it). It was a very good movie and keep thinking about it, but I can't get over the holes.
- Such smart guys and they can't think that there's a chance of manipulation?
- Cards to get into rooms? Best tech in the world and anyone can get into any room and do anything?
- No security for Ava? He already knew they'd go crazy trying to get out and yet just a simple door is the only security?
- Such an advanced place and no detection of the power surges?Loved the movie, the mood, the pace, the subtleties, but man, it drives me crazy when there are such blatant holes in an otherwise fascinating take on AI.
- Very cool. I didn't think it would be available yet.CyBrainX
- nb0
Pretty good, it's fun to think about AI.
Spoiler alert**
I REALLY wanted the ending to be different. So, Caleb was on his mission to break Ava out, and then Nathan figures it out, but then they SHOULD have had a big discussion about it. It would've been much better if it ended with a big philosophical argument about the value of one (or a dozen) AI's freedom when weighed against the existence of all mankind. Nathan would gradually convince Caleb that he can't let the AI free because it will be the end of the human race! It's obvious that the technology isn't ready.
Then they could've have had a great ending where Nathan convinces Caleb to go back and shut down Ava. And then he gets flown back to work and the movie ends with him at his desk living out his life in silent horror, as he now knows that the end of mankind is just a few version revisions away. And he has no one to confide in.
Because that is what we all know (in the real world) about AI. Once you build it, game over for humans.
Would've been a much better ending.
ALSO it would have avoided the most glaring plot problem: Why did Caleb reprogram the door locks as a set up for the next day? Why not simply reprogram them and break Eva out that night while Nathan was passed out?
- monNom0
Oh man. I really liked this film. Been think about I for weeks.
Spoiler alert:
I think the whole thing really came down to that Oppenheimer quote. 'now I am become death destroyer of worlds'. The whole frame of reference changes in the movie at that point. You have an unrelatable asshole tech CEO who transforms into an everyman under immense pressure because the thing he invented turned out to be a doomsday machine. He sees the inevitability of AI but almost refuses to believe that the thing he's created is really intelligent, as it is so predatory and inhuman. In humans intelligence without emotion is considered psychopathic and that's basically what you're getting with Ava. I don't know how any person would cope wellwith that pressure, and it sort of preludes and contrasts the AI's superiority in the situation. She's just waiting him out as he's fraying at the edges.Even the interpretation of the setting switches. From keeping out outsiders who want to steal his secrets, to being a 200mi buffer zone because ava is to dangerous to allow out...
Great great movie.
- docpoz0
Although it has some basic modernist concepts that have been done to death in the sci-fi world, I felt the film was well crafted and entertaining.
- nb4
I also think the movie was just too heavy-handed and obvious.
Here's a key card! If it doesn't work, that room has a dark secret!
- I loved the mood, but there were so many glaring issues to fully be engaged (at least for me, details, details)formed
- Pretty common in Alex Garland scripts, though.nb
- Maybe someone should tell him, then ;-)formed
- Nah, I want him to do his thing!nb
- Dunno, those details are hard to overlook, but I loved the moodformed
- your criticism of 'details' is lacking in detail. It is what it is - a stylish sci-fi with obvious flaws - like all sci-fi?Ianbolton