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- Krassy4
New California antibody study could point to possible herd immunity to COVID-19
- I want to know the results, a bunch of people that i have heard from here in Cali had a bad flu Nov-Jan.(me inc) If it was, you would think #s high back then?BabySnakes
- I also don't understand how herd immunity works. Is there merit behind that term?BabySnakes
- ^ yes. effectively it's how all immunity works. the lower the R0 of a virus the less people need to be immune to kill it off.kingsteven
- utopian1
Recovered coronavirus patients test positive again in blow to immunity hopes
- 2 tests in 24 hours is not enough, they need to re-test at least once per week for 1 month to really confirm recoverygrafician
- nobody has a clue whats going on... “The government needs to come up with responses for each of these variables” :Dkingsteven
- in other words fuck the telegraph and their clickbait articleskingsteven
- Yeah, multiple news sources are all lying and misleading us.utopian
- Ramanisky20
- this cunt is like if paris hilton decided to get famous by being a nazi instead of a whorecolin_s
- OPEN THE AMERICAgrafician
- She'd be hot if she wasn't so dense.dbloc
- is that the girl from the pandumbic video, with the heroine needles?neverscared
- https://www.youtube.…neverscared
- ^ That’s herRamanisky2
- Ramanisky23
- Reminds me of that interview Charlie Sheen did when he was having a mental breakdown and on a crack bendernb
- with each state doing it's own thing how is he going to "re-open" america?dorf
- this rules and you don't appreciate show business if you don't agreecolin_s
- Lol! What a moronscruffics
- at least the polls are ripping out his spine at the moment... he even will lose to sleepy joe.neverscared
- What was he trying to say?
This is frightening...
Never been so glad to be Canadian. Sorry!nbq - Bronzo the clown in-chief.colab
- If Trump had seized this moment, his reputation would've been gold, possibly forever. He could've skated to re-election. Impeachment would've been a tiny asterineverscared
- isk. But Trump couldn't help himself. He couldn't rise to meet the crisis. Now he'll go down as the worst of the worst.neverscared
- colin_s0
the funny thing about the potential of trump getting undone by the coronavirus is that because he'll take the blame, american healthcare incorporated will probably squeak through
like, if a democrat was in office when this happened, the response would have likely been better initially, but it still would have severely pressed the healthcare system... however because of "norms" the pressure would then open a political debate to fix it
now, liberals are so eager to crucify trump that they show they don't really give a shit about medicare for all, and if the majority of the democratic party decides to place the blame solely on the trump administration instead of america's fucked healthcare system, it'll end up costing far more lives than having an appropriate response
but hey american politics right hahahaha let's make money and fucking die
- At the end of the day, if most of the victims in the us are poor black folk, you’re right absolutely right, nothing will change._niko
- Nothing will change no matter what the outcome. You can't have hospitals with 3000% capacity for the off chance that you might need it.monNom
- Sadly we will probably just muddle through, lose a lot of lives, and go back to the way things were before because the alternative can't work.monNom
- The alternative being all sorts of extra capacity just in case. Not the whole bankruptcy by routine surgery thing. That ought to change but wouldn't help here.monNom
- sted0
@FacesOfCOVID
Stories of those lost to COVID-19 in the U.S. per public news reports. Each story matters. Compiled by @alexjgoldstein
& @ScottZoback
- kingsteven4
Some incredible work on debunking conspiracies on the origins of the virus from the university of Edinburgh.
Most graphs you see will put RaTG13 bat virus at the center mapped to a strain from Wuhan indicating patient 0. The reality is that the bat virus is so far from what are thought to be the earliest human viruses, a tree built on the GISAID data for SARS-CoV2 from 2nd April should (at the very least) look like this:
This is from Andrew Rambaut (https://twitter.com/arambaut). The branch from bat to human represents about 1200 mutations. The bat virus is so far away from SARS-CoV-2 its branch could fit in almost anywhere (here he's rooting the tree to a US version of the virus). Of course he's not actually suggesting the virus is from the US, it's just a bit of tounge-in-cheek trolling against bio-weapon conspiracies. Other research in to the origins suggests that SARS-CoV2 actually split from RaTG13 bat virus 40-70 years ago!
Andrew Rambaut was also one of the authors of a letter on the origins of CoV-2 which aims to demonstrate that the virus couldn't have been developed in a lab as a bio-weapon, but gives 3 theories on its origins. To me this was a really interesting read because rather than attempting just to shut down conspiracy it actually opens up many different possibilities (all of which start in China):
1. Natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer
2. Natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer
3. Selection during passage (laboratory release of SARS-CoV-2)- I’ll put $100 on number 3.shapesalad
- thanks for this.MrAbominable
- kingsteven2
Nairn was hypothesising on this a few days ago... eek
A study shows high prevalence of obesity in severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus‐2 (SARS‐CoV‐2) requiring invasive mechanical ventilation.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/…
Worth noting that this study is from France where 17% of the population is obese although counted for 70% of intubations.
In the UK 25% are Obese
In America it's 40%- And the virus hasn't even truly hit all of the States yet. April is going to be awful.nb
- It would suggest that the US needs at least twice the amount of ventilators per head as France, pretty scary stuff.kingsteven
- Obesity rates are 36% and 28% respectively, not 40 and 25monospaced
- It’s also not news that obesity related conditions are contributors to death rates. Obesity itself isn’t actually a factor, but diabetes and heart conditions armonospaced
- Those were outlined from the very beginning. And proving true.monospaced
- "The need for IMV was significantly associated with male sex (p<0.05) and BMI (p<0.05), independent of age, diabetes, and hypertension."kingsteven
- "Disease severity increased with BMI" - diet causes all these conditions this study shows that obesity is the indicator (third after age, sex)kingsteven
- ahh, i used the eurostat obesity stats for france and uk. CDC for US (actually 42%)kingsteven
- WHO stats actually put France at 22% tookingsteven
- comorbidityMondoMorphic
- utopian0
What do you know...Donnie Do Little & Friends were made aware of the Wuhan Virus as early as November 2019.
U.S. spy agencies collected raw intel hinting at public health crisis in Wuhan, China, in November.
U.S. spy agencies collected raw intelligence hinting at a public health crisis in Wuhan, China, in November, two current and one former U.S. official told NBC News, but the information was not understood as the first warning signs of an impending global pandemic.
- Taiwan intelligence knew and acted on it, they're not even members of WHO. I doubt Donnie would have even acknowledged a virus as a threat.kingsteven
- "the information was not understood" full-stopkingsteven
- If the WHO wasn't busy bending over for China, maybe they would have done something, followed Taiwan's lead, etc...MondoMorphic
- PhanLo-1
- PhanLo-1
- grafician0
@Mikel_Jollett
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"Good morning,There will be no vaccine for 12-18 months.
Social distancing is only a short term solution.
The only way will be able to leave our homes is if the government starts TESTING EVERYONE
The sooner we accept this (and demand it), the sooner we can get back to living."
- Duhgrafician
- Testing isn’t a treatment. It only tells you what you should be doing anyway. Stay inside ffs and take care of yourself and be safe.monospaced
- I don’t need to be tested. It would be a total waste of a test. I don’t have it and if I did my behavior would be the same.monospaced
- A negative test only tells you you don’t have it YET. So stay inside. A positive test means you should stay inside. That’s it. Testing is just a way to monitormonospaced
- utopian4
- fake newsmonospaced
- The mafia has been doing this for years.dbloc
- I just read that Hart Island burials took place once a month, for around 25 people.maquito
- These days, there are +50 bodies being buried everyday. Mostly unclaimed bodies.maquito
- Quite complicated reality for New Yorkers regardless of how they prefer to tell the story.maquito
- utopian-1
- this is ineffective. i saw the us gov showing this. not ffp3 rated so wont block the virus. typical trump bs. might as well wrap a towel around your head.trooperbill
- Put two sheets of blue shop cloth in it, will be as effective as n95.shapesalad
- inteliboy4
Minimising going out to get supplies. Using online ordering. On the rare occasion yesterday, dropped into the shops at the end of a long walk....
Completely packed with boomers. Hundreds of the fuckers. Having laughs, bumping past, chatting away in the isles, stuffing their trollies. One lady hobbled by sniffling away as if riddled with the worst cold in the world... no mask... no worries. Seriously what is wrong with that generation? And they call millennials entitled. Righto.
- Are you talking about those that wiped your ass, gave you shelter, fed you—told you what a fuck up you were until you decided to be an adult... those boomers?PonyBoy
- ^ Are you giving boomers credit for doing what everyone who has kids has done since the beginning of time? Typical :)yuekit
- No he's just giving himself credit. They love to do that.inteliboy
- Most 'kids' are done disrespecting their parents by the time they're in their 20's... I see you two still need a 'time out' or two.PonyBoy
- Same here. It's almost like the same exceptionalism that brought us Brexit.monoboy
- What's sad, inteli... you're right in the building w/them doing the same fucking thing as them... yet you judge them. Fuck off w/this nonsense.PonyBoy
- agree on that ... so fucked how people complain about other peoooe doing the same shit as them. I’ve seen it a lot here and it’s such arrogant nonsense.monospaced
