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  • jonny_quest_lives1

    Trinidad and Tobago Minister of Health Terrence Deyalsingh says claims made by Nicki Minaj are not true...

    Meanwhile her cousin's "friend" is pissing the hot gonorrhea all embarrassed while his country's health officials hunt him down.

    https://twitter.com/MariefHull/s…

  • palimpsest-2

    I've also done my own research and found out that the actual data doesn't fit into any of the narratives we're being fed. I had a suspicion that the percentages being posted here were off. When you take all of the variables into account you get the following graph where the augmentation is largest for the case with the lowest maximum angle of attack. The phases that increase/decrease the thrust are minimally affected by the maximum angle of attack.


    There is no bias in this analysis since the data used hasn't been filtered. This is from a paper from Muscutt LE, Dyke G,Weymouth GD, Naish D, Palmer C,Ganapathisubramani B. published by the Royal Society.

    But wait, there's more:


    You can see in this graph that for both values of the maximum angle of attack the efficiency is greatest for St = 0.18, while the thrust coefficient is greatest for St = 0.36.

    Furthermore, if we look at the research done by Ludvig Beckman. His conclusions on the general account are as follows:
    Let us assume that the inclusion of A and B is sufficient for pure procedural legitimacy of a collective decision regulating membership in the demos. Now, imagine that A and B jointly decide that B should be excluded from the demos. Is the decision legitimate? One answer is that it is not, since it denies B the ability to participate in future decisions to which B will be subject. After all, the general conception of pure procedural legitimacy requires that anyone subject to public decisions should be able to participate in them. On the assumption that B will indeed remain subject to A’s decisions, democratic legitimacy apparently requires that B continues to be included in the demos.

    The problem is that this answer betrays the nature of pure procedural legitimacy. As we have seen, any outcome should be regarded as legitimate, provided that the procedural requirements are satisfied. Since we have already accepted that the decision to exclude B from the demos is made in accordance with the procedural requirements of democratic legitimacy, there is no basis for refuting its legitimacy. In sum, it is incoherent to hold that decisions made in full com-pliance with the standards of pure procedural legitimacy are also illegitimate by the very same standard.

    #DYOR

    • 1. I think you're grasping for a narrative that fits your view. 2. The second guy who linked is a political science professor that's big on..garbage
    • ..restricting voter's rights. 3. Not really sure we're being 'fed a narrative' when more Americans have died than in every war we've been involved in..garbage
    • ..in the past two years, massive bankruptcy and economic fallout resulting in a complete change of life for almost every person on earth, etc.garbage
    • There ain't no big lie about COVID.garbage
    • "I think you're grasping for a narrative that fits your view."
      You've got it all figured out, champ!
      palimpsest
    • Thanks for proving my point.palimpsest
    • jeez, some real butters/professor chaos shit right here, revealing your evil villian masterplan after one person bit the bulletkingsteven
    • It took me weeks to put it together.
      I pissed myself like an over-excited puppy.
      palimpsest
    • *placesyellowtriangl... watch your stepAQUTE
    • Next time a client comes back with feedback they gathered from their nephew, and now are an expert in design - remember what you're doing here.inteliboy
    • I concur.
      Specially if the feedback is a picture of Bigfoot. Remember that you are the designer.
      #DYOR
      palimpsest
    • this is a pisstake, right?hans_glib
    • Seriously, I never tried to trick anybody here. I hold you all to the same standards as I do myself. This only requires basic reading skills.palimpsest
    • I didn't expect garbage to ramble about NOTHING, nor kingsteven to read it as a stupid evil MASTERPLAN or even inteliboy to compare it to DESIGN feedback.palimpsest
    • It was more of a comment on the constant bullshit and bickering going on here. And now look at us.palimpsest
    • i was referencing a character from southpark, i read the post and got what you were trying to do, upvoted but then was disappointed when you didn't let thekingsteven
    • sidenotes go on a bit. also don't feel like the 'gotcha' was deserved as it would seem garbage was just concerned for your sanity :Dkingsteven
    • Like I said before, I really didn't expect this response. I think it's safe to say we all know South Park. I don't think garbage was concerned for my sanity.palimpsest
    • it was more the response that reminded me of this https://www.youtube.… - that second study is giving me crazy Déjà vukingsteven
    • Maybe he has concerned for his own sanity. I would really like for somebody to clearly explain where he got that reading from.palimpsest
    • It wasn't a 'gotcha'. He clearly went on a rant about MY "grasping for a narrative that fits your view" without considering the facts.palimpsest
    • If he wouldn't have gone that far I would have it let it slide. I just wasn't expecting. As I've said several times before.palimpsest
    • I REALLY would like somebody to explain where they got this interpretation from MY text.palimpsest
    • "Show me on the doll".palimpsest
    • @kingsteven
      Thanks for the video, I understand your worldview now. Thumbs up!
      palimpsest
    • he was concerned you were going off the rails, took the bits he could derive sense from (opening paragraph, discursive democracy) and tried to rationalisekingsteven
    • within the context of the thread. i doubt he cared much, other than to keep the discourse going. qbn is not academic, more like a pub...kingsteven
    • So basically, he did his own research regardless of the facts.
      I even posted the sources.
      palimpsest
    • But I'm the Butters figure here.palimpsest
    • You're right, kingsteven.
      I apologize.
      palimpsest
    • This is amazing. The responses are even better. Well done pal.monospaced
    • What you’ve shown here is probably the most useful data I’ve seen on the thrust coefficient of the pandemic. A topic few real researchers have tackled. Bravo.monospaced
    • always consider theres users on this site that are alts, trolls doing exactly what you attempted - for years. don't get triggered and shit over your good name.kingsteven
    • @monospaced
      https://www.youtube.…
      palimpsest
    • @garbage
      You were as quick to jump in as to vanish from the conversation.
      Looking forward to your insight.
      palimpsest
  • utopian0

    • Hitler made films about Stalin, Stalin about Hitler. Though WAY more impotent, the Lincoln Project that made this video is in the same group of propagandists.pr2
    • (and so is every tool that spreads it).pr2
    • Not really though.monospaced
    • one dumb ignorant fuckutopian
  • AQUTE-1

    So now our personal medical records are to be published public and freely requested for the most insignificant of things. Kewl!

  • AQUTE-3

    Moran VS Moron
    What about the cat?

    Dr. Moran

    • dude, why are you spreading science? do you want some people's brain to burst? evil you!pr2
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  • utopian0

    The pandemic marks another grim milestone: 1 in 500 Americans have died of covid-19.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/h…

    • and to think there are ethically backward, morally corrupt and sick bastards who preach, on and on, that this is acceptable and expectedmonospaced
    • This is the numbers I use when people say “ but I don’t know anyone who’s died of covid” because you don’t know 500-1000 people._niko
    • From your articleAQUTE
    • [CDC: Unvaccinated 11 times more likely to die of covid-19]AQUTE
    • WHO IS LYING? ISRAEL OR MEDIA?AQUTE
    • that democratic hoaxneverscared
    • NEWS ALERT: any given year 1 in 300 Americans dies. period.pr2
    • actually it's 1 in 100 who die each year.pr2
    • we should make everyone who goes to funerals be vaccinated and wear masks to prevent the spread of "death."pr2
  • robotinc0

    So I did my own research...

    "Can kids be harmed wearing masks to protect against COVID?

    No, there is no scientific evidence showing masks cause harm to kids’ health despite baseless claims suggesting otherwise."

    https://apnews.com/article/lifes…

    • Some would say that's fake news. You should just follow the lead of a random user on QBN. That's your safest bet.dbloc
    • My own research: https://getyarn.io/y…nb
    • I love the fact that you link to an article that has ZERO Links to any studies and yet the article claims "scientific evidence."pr2
    • i can't believe you need fucking study to know that a wet cloth is a breathing ground for pathogens, but here it is (one among many): https://pubmed.ncbi.…pr2
    • there many many of thus studies, but i'm too lazy to link you to all. fucking unbelievable that something this obvious needs to be explained.pr2
    • its true, the AP and the Mayo clinic are bastions for partisan disinformation. Also, your rebuttal link is broken.robotinc
    • just nose breath (vs mouth breathing) inside the mask. and take mask breaks during the day.uan
    • https://pubmed.ncbi.…pr2
    • yeah, lets all get together and tell kid show to breath - that will work out very well indeed.pr2
    • Hey moron. The pathogens in the mask are from the kid wearing them. Derp.monospaced
    • Indoors? Use an N95/FFP2. General use, a cloth mask is better than nothing eg outdoors amongst others. Germany is smart in requiring FFP2 in shops etcBaskerviIle
    • Anecdotal: I've worn a cloth mask when out running 10km every day for the past year and a half. No covid, no other illnesses. Ergo masks do not make you sick.BaskerviIle
    • A typical dimwit's way of thinking: "my anecdotal experience is better than your rigorous peer-reviewed study."pr2
    • A typical moron's thinking: "Masks work only one way, what goes out is trapped NEVER what comes in."pr2
    • If i had an ounce of hope for you guys i would actually look up more of those studies (some with thousands of participants), but why bother?pr2
    • Think about it this way, you're a very small minority against a global community of highly experienced scientists. You're also arguing on a design board. Why?BaskerviIle
    • You cherrypicking from your pubmed searches does nothing to bolster your fringe arguments. Systematic reviews and meta analysis from Cochrane please.BaskerviIle
    • Dumb as a box of hammers.utopian
    • Bask, EVERY doctor and scientist i speak to is scratching his/hear head that fundamental concepts that were known for ages are thrown out the window.pr2
    • The avalanche of the status quo can't be stopped and so a vast majority of those "highly experienced scientists" who are in my camp choose to stay silent.pr2
    • That's why u assume "a very small minority."pr2
    • Ugh.maquito
    • Did you speak to these doctors and scientists on Facebook? And Reddit?pango
    • agree with pr2 here (I say while wearing a mask on the train) I'm not sure how many countries outside the US still advise this. not in the UK since May...kingsteven
    • Even then it was just in communal areas, not classrooms. Masks are for protecting others and cloth masks are not effective when dampkingsteven
    • Of course, if there was more trust in vaccines and less hysteria about masks in general in the US from folks like pr2 it wouldn't be so politicisedkingsteven
    • and harmful is a bit of a jump from less effective tbh haha, I don't even like kids and I think them wearing masks is excessivekingsteven
  • AQUTE1

    Fact-checking a claim raised at WVU about a coronavirus study in Israel

    https://www.politifact.com/artic…

    IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

    • A study done in Israel that is not yet peer reviewed found that people who had been infected with COVID-19 had greater protection than vaccinated people against becoming reinfected with the virus’ delta variant.

    • The claim suggests that people are better off going unvaccinated. But peer-reviewed studies repeatedly have found that vaccinated people are more likely to avoid hospitalization or death if they become infected.

  • Fax_Benson1

    this thread made my balls swell up and now the marriage is off

  • mg331

    Aqute,

    Literally had this convo with a relative last night who doesn't want to get vaccinated because she doesn't think covid will be a big deal if she gets it, because she knows some people who had it recently and it was "just a bad week or two."

    I'm always a person she can go to for straight-up, fact based info, unlike a lot of the conservative friends she has. I explained it this way:

    Think about the risk and reward of being vaccinated and getting Covid, and of being unvaccinated and getting covid:

    Vaccinated and still getting covid:
    You risk some side effects from the vaccine, there's still a risk you get covid, but the reward is likely a mild case it or simply being asymptomatic. The reward is a low chance of going to the hospital.

    Unvaccinated and getting covid:
    You risk a rough couple of weeks being horribly sick, you risk hospitalization, you risk death. Your reward might be having natural antibodies, but is that worth the risks listed?

    • And what about contracting Covid and spreading it to all your love ones, friends and strangers alike? Fucking Covidiots!utopian
    • ^OBBTKN
    • how old is your friend? if they are 65 or younger, possibility of death from covid is insanely low.pr2
    • i'm fucking afraid that at some point we're going to start talking about mutations that are immune to the current vaccines, and nobody else is there to blamested
    • but these ppl. who refuse to get vaccinated.sted
    • son, the virus is already out. there is noone to blame, if anything the vaxxed people, unprotected against new variants are the ones who should get the blame.pr2
    • And that’s why everyone on this site thinks you’re both a moron and a royal ass, pr2.monospaced
    • uh that was extra dumb.sted
    • you guys have solidified concrete for brains.pr2
  • neverscared0

    France suspends 3,000 unvaccinated health workers without pay
    Staff at hospitals and care homes had refused Covid jab despite warning by Macron of September deadline

    https://www.theguardian.com/worl…

    • Fair enough.shapesalad
    • extravagantuan
    • Think the deadline for UK healthcare workers to get the first jab is todaykingsteven
  • Krassy10

    is this the new Politics thread?

    • /stats / biology / math for designersuan
    • doyourownresearchutopian
    • No Krassy...just a thread to feed facts to the anti-Vaxxin morons trolls.utopian
    • thread to laugh at pro-vax idiots who don't know how to read basics tables of graphs (while employed to make those).pr2
    • fresh off the boatutopian
    • pr2, I want to test a possible preventative measure against further Covid infection - it involves shitting in your mouth. Wanna give it a go?face_melter
    • Previous clinical trials of shitting on the subject's chest proves inconclusive, so the boys at the lab think mouths are the next step.face_melter
    • Would love to stick to COVID news and not have things like Nicki Minaj's balls stinking up the placenb
    • Yes it is because of some cunts who love to regurgitate information.i_was
    • It's like Oprah giving out PhDs up in this bitch.palimpsest
    • This thread should be off the front page like the politics threadGuyFawkes
  • utopian0

    Unvaxed Teen Councilman Who Attacked Mask Mandates Now Battling ‘Terrible’ COVID Pneumonia

    A teenage city council member in Morgan County, Alabama, who tested positive for COVID-19 on Wednesday after railing against mask mandates said he’s now battling coronavirus-related pneumonia in the hospital.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/hu…

    #TweetsCheesburgersAndPrayers

    • aint that a shameGuyFawkes
    • But, but he is too young to worry about it and also if he survives, he will have immunity.monospaced
    • I tried to see if he had a twitter, but just found articles about him joking about running over protesters. Seems a top lad.PhanLo
    • It would be wrong to say "I hope the fucker chokes to death on his own phlegm"...so I won't.BusterBoy
    • No one's going to mention his obese state of being?AQUTE
    • I'll say it. I grew up in Alabama, and Morgan County and the state at large is loaded with fucking slimeballs like this fat fuck. Let em fall.garbage
    • @mono Even if he survives, somebody that markedly out of shape is likely to have lifelong side effects.garbage
    • When he smiles, he frowns. A human grimace emoji.shellie
    • Why do these shitheads always have tiny faces and bulbous heads, like Charlie Kirk.face_melter
    • @garbage, yup ... I was being sarcastic, this really sucks and it could have been avoided had he and his family been vaccinatedmonospaced
  • sted-4

    Wow just fucking wow, the US government after maintaining only basic communication for almost two years now started to take active action on informing people properly.

    And you needed Nicki Minaj for that to happen.

    https://apnews.com/article/healt…

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  • robotinc0

    A typical dimwit's way of thinking: "my anecdotal experience is better than your rigorous peer-reviewed study."
    -pr2

    Bask, EVERY doctor and scientist i speak to is scratching his/hear head that fundamental concepts that were known for ages are thrown out the window.
    - also pr2, in the same comment thread

    ::slow clap::

    • prPhDutopian
    • slow clap to robo who has no clue about context. like concepts like context blows his mind.pr2
    • I don't want to get into this, pr2, but you wind people up here because you literally quote figures with no context and make daft comparisons and equivalencesFax_Benson
    • while accusing others of the same. I'm not questioning your research and all the earnest science that you do - but you do those other things tooFax_Benson
    • and it is annoying, and that is a fact, and that is all.Fax_Benson
    • Factbogue
    • i've offered to send pr2 the full versions of papers he's been misrepresenting from their abstract - some of his points are directly contradictorykingsteven
    • it's a pity because it just hardens a lot of folks on here to reactionary views that don't have scientific basis either (but less harmful)kingsteven
    • que? what are you talking about king?pr2
    • A couple of times when you have linked to an article I have read and offered to send the full paper it's based on. I think the last was the vaers study.kingsteven
    • you must be confusing me with someone else, besides a silly BBC article i NEVER link to articles only science papers.pr2
    • as do i, from memory one was an abstract on research gate, another maybe on nature? i've been working this week with a pharmacist with similar views IRLkingsteven
    • this guy is an expert on public health promotion and policy and understands the risks and benefits of vaccines - as i mentioned a couple days agokingsteven
    • your frustration with your kid having to wear a mask is a result (as you know) of the continued overloading of healthcare system due to the unvaxxed...kingsteven
    • personally it's a no brainer to me to get it because as with covid the vax really only kills people with serious underlying health conditions and at a far lowerkingsteven
    • rate. you can argue that masks are harmful, the vaccine is harmful and covid is not that harmful to under 65s... but not at the same time :Dkingsteven
    • I wonder how pr2 would manage a pandemic if he was leader of the world.inteliboy
  • AQUTE3

    "unvaxed" or "obese"

    this is the "real" pandemic in the USA.
    it's been a long time coming, maybe USA fucked thread.

    • The elephant in the room, literally.Chimp
    • ^ haha. fuck, remember posting about this well over a year ago during the first waves in europe https://www.qbn.com/…kingsteven
    • Being healthy makes you immune??
      AWESOME!
      Projectile
    • +++sted
    • Some good insights...but the dude needs to throw a few more humble brags into his videos to make himself feel superior.utopian
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