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- Ramanisky29
- They painted it upside-down!Gnash
- https://66.media.tum…mort_
- It was painted so Trump and his tenants can read it clearly from their windows. hahahautopian
- LOLmoldero
- so the big question is who pays for the clean up when the street is open? the movement. or tax payer fund to remove grafitti. if that is the case thosedeathboy
- who allow it do a disservice to their job and responsibilites. cant imagine theyre logn for position not to mention lawsuitsdeathboy
- lol, nice one.neverscared
- Don't click on deathboy's profile.monospaced
- Fucking idiot deathboy. The mayor was behind this. It’s not graffiti. Taxpayers support it too. You’re an asshole.monospaced
- so mayor commissioned it liek a statue, where statues also had tax payer funds behind... hmm similairities... but hopefully taxpayers watch budget for itdeathboy
- and get no federal bailout money while spending funds on temporary political messaging.deathboy
- also can you spend public funds on political advertisements? seems like a fine line. but ny and ca liek double buttholes on a catdeathboy
- shit just flows from themdeathboy
- Ianbolton3
I don't like (no hate here!) the word RACE. It implies that there are winners and losers or that we're competing. I was thinking about this the other day, but now I've written it here I'll stop thinking about it.
Have a great day!
- Chocolate is racist too it implies brown comes in last.moldero
- Giving power to words is the basis of our civilisation. But now words have power over us...grafician
- Why is everyone so focused on words, statues, symbols... sometimes seems like that's all people in USA care about.yuekit
- @yuekit, it's because socialists work in groups, Groups require names and descriptions and subsequently those words are diluted because...Morning_star
- ...each member of those groups projects a slightly different means. eventually there is little nuance left in those words as only the fundamental meaning...Morning_star
- ...remains.
I should have said 'concentrated' instead of 'diluted'Morning_star - It's not just the left though, both sides seem to be consumed with this surface level culture war stuff.yuekit
- it only surface level for a short time. it's driving policy nowGnash
- I think you're right. The problem is, is that this inflexible and intolerant approach to language stops dialogue as any attempt to get tat the issue is...Morning_star
- ...scuppered by arguments about 'offensive'words, syntax and grammar.Morning_star
- When I'm on my bicycle, and I overtake a snails pace bicyclist, I say to myself "You are too slow for the human race". As an amusing play on the word race.shapesalad
- Between the meanings of race as in competition of speed over distance, and race as in species of animal.shapesalad
- Race implies behavioural traits inherent to physical appearance. That's why it's not used in some cultures/languages when referring to the human race.deadsperm
- Race as a speed competition is a totally different word that has no influence into how Americans think of race.deadsperm
- You were trying to be too woke that you ended up lucid dreaming.deadsperm
- Fuck's sake, read a book:
https://www.etymonli…garbage - Lol! ^ *chef’s kiss*Gnash
- The idea of human races is considered obsolete and no longer scientifically tenable for more than half a century now anywayjamesbeat
- "You were trying to be too woke that you ended up lucid dreaming." That's totally it mate hahaIanbolton
- :Ddeadsperm
- I wish this fact would be reflected a lot more in modern societies but its a misconception that is just too convenient for a lot of peoplejamesbeat
- HOW THE FUCK IS CHOCOLATE LAST?!Nairn
- white chocolate is clearly inferior.Nairn
- I mean, it's nice, but it's not fucking chocolate. Let's be real here.Nairn
- Have seen that ruby chocolate? It’s not chocolate either. What is the world coming to.Morning_star
- i dont like the word fruit as well. there is no superior fruit!pango
- haha, i love lemons and depending on my mood prefer white chocolate! What a wonderful world!Ianbolton
- hear ya, I also dislike the word but genetically we have different races and they are all of equal value.mekk
- sarahfailin11
The ratio of troll posts to genuine posts in this thread is troubling, but not unexpected in QBN.
Props to those of you taking the time to learn about black history and racial in equity, and to those trying have good-faith conversations about our role in the struggle.
It's a deep truth that the existence of injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. If you think that the persecution of others can exist indefinitely without consequence for you, you are wrong.
- 90% of what QBNrs say it‘s trolling is contrarian posts by not so left-leaning users on this site. Just man up and stop whining all the time about it.NBQ00
- I‘m left leaning but i can still see some valid points on the other spectrum as well.NBQ00
- Thats bullshit NBQ. Big difference between opposing views vs just baiting with troll posts. Always with a smug ghoulish spin. Never good faith.inteliboy
- Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.. is a rhetorical trick, not a 'deep' truth.Doris_McSquirter
- People are getting ghoulish here? Really? *turns on night cameracherub
- Just pointing out that sarahfailin's good point is completely proven in this thread. If anybody takes Doris seriously, they're falling for bad faith arguments.garbage
- Ramanisky28
Kyle Rittenhouse charged:
1st-Degree Reckless Homicide
1st-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety.
1st-Degree Intentional Homicide
Attempt 1st-Degree Intentional Homicide
1st-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety
Possession Dangerous Weapon (Misd.)
- Goodpseud
- He'll have the protection of the prison nazis, but believe me a few black fists (and dicks) are going to penetrate that shield.Projectile
- I'm not sure that will help with his racism affliction, but perhaps that was never going awayProjectile
- Is that your kink, Projectile? Thinking about young adolescent males getting raped in prison?Nairn
- If you’re not gay, how can you get it up and into another guys stinky poop hole. You guys talk so disgusting. The idea of it. Yuk.shapesalad
- Are you twelve, Shapesalad?Nairn
- Someone spike shape with a v.strong psychedelic, he needs rebooting.fadein11
- I predict 5 acquittals and some community service.zarkonite
- 0% chance any of the 1st degree charges stick.noRGB
- imbecile8
- https://www.theguard…imbecile
- Fucknb
- damn, the more you know_niko
- Oh well in that case go right ahead and do property damage.
Jesus fucking... I cant with this stupid reasoning.cannonball1978 - Sorry im assuming you are making a case for BLM jackassery. I’ll presume you arent. At least I hope you arent.cannonball1978
- there is no reasoning. you're just an asshole looking at houses burned by a bomb dropped by police, yet you're whining about BLM as if they don't.imbecile
- very fine people on both sides.neverscared
- One violence does not justify the other. Therefore one is not an argument for the other existing.cannonball1978
- to clarify, you're okay with police dropping a bomb on your neighbor's house, killing your family and another, burning down a block, to stop your neighbors?imbecile
- cannonball, you are such a blatant and obvious racist.imbecile
- jesus Cannonball, he was pointing out the hypocrisy not condoning anything. Now do you see you idiotic you come across?Projectile
- Idiots: I'm not okay with either situation. Connections or similarities between the two justify nothing. Stupid assholes on both sides.cannonball1978
- "duh wait he not say thing against bad man. *checks racism bingo card*cannonball1978
- Ramanisky28
Fine people on both sides.
- Trump's Armyutopian
- Army?! these idiots could be smashed by any football hooligans in EU in a secondgrafician
- more like bunker boysgrafician
- The Proud Boys are, in part, one of Dickhead McInnes' creations started as a moronic Men's Movement and drifted towards wingnut bootboys.face_melter
- Now he tries to distance himself from it all because their fuckery started to get media attention and all roads pointed to him.face_melter
- @grafician great idea for a TV show, Proud Boys tour Europe with each episode culminating in an actual fight against a local football firm.fadein11
- lol they would get absolutely dismantled in every single country.face_melter
- indeedfadein11
- I knew a few football casuals growing up. Genuinely some of the most instantly dangerous and frightful people I have known.face_melter
- Gavin should honestly be jailed for starting this shit. Have known him since the Voice days and he's always been a piece of shit.ben_
- @face, yep same, thankfully the ones I knew all got into dancing in fields and warehouses haha.fadein11
- Proud Boys' diets will kill them long before any of those scary antifas. *Mainlines burgers and Budweiser to own the libsFNP14
- @fade yeah, Arab Strap have a line in one of their songs - '...Ecstasy killed the casuals'. Which is totally on point.face_melter
- It really did, for a while.fadein11
- imbecile14
- scarabin6
- Did you know the Portuguese had X2 the amount of slaves as the British.shapesalad
- did they protest peacefully?pango
- Ya, this is the exact same situationGnash
- e'cht, not accurate - but funny.Nairn
- @shape Yeah, Portugal was a linchpin in the Atlantic Slave trade. What's your point?garbage
- Wasn't a point, it was a 'did you know?' because until recently I wasn't aware of it. There's no museum in Lisbon etc. Unlike UK with William Wilberforce house.shapesalad
- possibly because they had multiple revolutions, dissolved all colonial control and legalised drugs. where we're ruled by the slave owners' direct descendantskingsteven
- legalized drugs, I wish! de-criminalization ≠ legalization..ESKEMA
- haha, well you guys still ahead of the rest of the world on that.kingsteven
- Ah, I see. I thought it was some justification for American slavery, in a "um they had them too". I've seen people legitimately try to make that argument.garbage
- Hey everyone it's okay to be violent because the south went to War to keep slaves.cannonball1978
- Hey everyone. When someone wants to keep slaves, make sure to protest peacefully.pango
- Hey everyone, if you want to protest slavery, go to country that still actually practices it!Gnash
- Isn't the American Prison System basically a form of corporate slavery?Nairn
- Big money to be made with prison. And since the US Justice system encourages people to pleas guilty, there's no short supply of labourpango
- @nairn Yes, and for profit has massive lobbying power. If you want to be sick, read up on CoreCivic. Their logo is literally the flag as a cell.garbage
- https://www.corecivi…garbage
- And that's the rebrand. We're totally not dystopian, come to America. Come for the burgers, stay because the rest of the world won't let you come back.garbage
- Bluejam10
- That’s a cool ideaGnash
- brilliant!whatthefunk
- We were talking about this at work, what about choosing a colour, paint statues of racist "heroes" in this colour and change the plaques to reflectben_
- their actual history? But yeah, Banksy's idea is great.ben_
- They should fish him out, put him back, and replace the plate with huge and bold letters to let everyone know he was a "racist piece of shit".Maaku
- Don't erase history, just tell the truth. Stop glorifying racist pieces of shit.Maaku
- elahon8
- The right wing media is and always has been appallingRamanisky2
- more pathetic than strange to me...neverscared
- How is the liberal media any better? They're two identical pieces of shit, IMO.MondoMorphic
- ^ Annnnnd there’s the “both sides” brigade.Ramanisky2
- Liberal media doesn't get behind racist murderers, regardless of their skin color or job description.monospaced
- That is spectacularly unique among the current administrations most idiotic mouth breathing supporters.monospaced
- As mono said, it's not about the media here... this statement is true of the supporters. Media is business, don't expect much from them either way.ben_
- whatthefunk0
Trump Supporters Deface Black Lives Matter Mural in Martinez CA
“There is no oppression, there is no racism,” the man said, while holding his phone up. “It’s a leftist lie. It’s a lie from the media, the liberal left.”
Someone could be heard in the background asking him, “You can’t be that stupid, can you?”
Meanwhile, the woman continued to paint over the yellow “Black Lives Matter” mural with black paint. At one point, she asked the man to get her another can.
“Keep this s--- in f------ New York. This isn’t happening in my town,” she said.
- why are they so offended by the word black life matter?pango
- the type painted over with black and distressed is a metaphor all in itself. well done morans.inteliboy
- deathboy approved!utopian
- That’ll be the U in US then.MrT
- i dont care much. but protest counter protest. when road opens up that shit is gone either way. as long as not tax payer dimedeathboy
- dont need a lil a old lady crossing a line and running into someone because cant gauge linesdeathboy
- Damn. Internet is messing people up.omahadesigns
- just curious what is the difference if someone protest to paint it and another to paint over. merely bias?deathboy
- cool coolpango
- @deathboy one act conveys a message of equality the other one is both a denial to freedom of expression and hatespeech through the documented video ...urbanturban
- ha well how that message can promote equality is one thing considering many people fired for saying all lives matter in higher edudeathboy
- aditionally if this is the DC pavement mural its been sanctioned by authorities so its destruction of public propertyurbanturban
- but practical is its jsut vandalism and you have a grafitti writer and a buffer. https://www.youtube.…deathboy
- and painting letters doesnt help promote interests of blacks. be surprised how libertarian types have been against police brutality, low level drug offensesdeathboy
- that harm blacks and other minorities. also actually talked of of real policy like against minimum wage, and other liberal policy that oppressesdeathboy
- be surprised how much todays liberal policy hold cannon fodder down just for a vote when tossing a bonedeathboy
- Hapango
- dont just HA pango. reason why pelosi and other take knee promoting rules of oppression. where you find no right or even libertarians support. just more marxistdeathboy
- which is fancy way of saying you are my slave because i control your labordeathboy
- and again totally bias if you support vandalis
m to push it but not remove it..deathboy - Hapango
- thanks for identifying intent for all our young viewers pangodeathboy
- I found out who deathboy is! https://www.youtube.…tank02
- Look at how he keeps talking to me when I'm not even talking to him LOLpango
- Russia & China leaders are currently being presented with detailed reports on how their misinformation social media campaigns are 100% effective....shapesalad
- PANGO, HE SAID DON'T JUST HA!Ianbolton
- deathboy is a science denying racist cuntmonospaced
- Well Ian. Tell him HAHA!
lolpango - white trashneverscared
- Look at these deathboys spending their welfare cheque on paint only to write the same message in black.ben_
- deathy just reads what he wants that particular piece was not vandalism and was sanctioned by the council - read up - its hella famous - all your blabberingurbanturban
- ammounts to opinions at best and hate usually while what i told you is irrespective of opinion just facts & lawurbanturban
- deathy is a lowlife prick...as much as i remember he called that it a - soccerflop- when the cops pushed the old senior and bleeded from the head.neverscared
- yea soccer flop for sure. and still what was he fuckin trying to scan.deathboy
- hopefully not your brainwaves coz u have none.neverscared
- looks like it was ok'd as a temporary mural for the city. no details on cost of who will clean it up when street opens. looks liek they will get misddemeanordeathboy
- grafitti and vandalism. Considering its a street. and public property be liek 12 hours community service or a few hundred dollar finedeathboy
- still need to see full permits on murla and who carries the costs to really judge though.deathboy
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯pango
- yup failure of todays journalism masquerading as entertainment and prop. they dotn give you the important detailsdeathboy
- ^ master of jumping to conclusion.pango
- do they give you the details. pango who is going to pay for removal when road opens?deathboy
- Yespango
- eryx3
Just a question.
Can we start on the premis that most cops are not racist ass hats?
Or is the premise that most cops are racist pricks and they stop the good cops from doing good?
I think they're are more good cops then bad but I am not black and don't live in America.
- IMO is about a 50/50 mixutopian
- lol 50/50 mix. #science?deathboy
- the left wants to see USA turn into a crime ridden 3rd world country. as a result cops will be too afraid to go into american gettoshotroddy
- and let gangs control streets. We're right behind Brazil, Venezuela, Jamaicahotroddy
- great job america!pango
- When I was young and dressed funny I got stopped by cops a lot. So I figured they were all bad.Gnash
- you know what you said about the left is as extreme and as ridiculous as saying all police are racist right?monospaced
- nobody wants to create a worse world with more hate and violence. Cmon.monospaced
- Just start with the assumption that racism has no place (anywhere but especially) in policing. It’s a problem that’s causing a lot of issues, so worth adressingben_
- I'm sure cops are good, bad and mediocre just like the rest of us. The part that is troubling to me is to see them walking around with military style weaponsyuekit
- like an invading army.yuekit
- @hotroddy "the left wants to see..." :/maquito
- there are directives like in new York where the number of citations is a baseline of good work. that kind of structure makes good copsshellie
- pray on people of color to hit their quota.shellie
- after a while, even if you're good, it has to charge the way you think in general. scanning a crowd like "who can I get to fill my quota and nobody will care"shellie
- if they did this to the well to do or whites, they'd be up in arms. but hey once you ticket, and then warrant kids for hanging out and then they get arrestedshellie
- for the ticket later, now you're in the c system. upw also learning early on that you could just be standing on the corner.shellie
- *sorry typos. swype text is a bitch. anyway, I feel like in many ways its like being accused of cheating...shellie
- of someone is going to accuse you of cheating over and over and it's just as raw as if you did, you might as well have done it.shellie
- that's how teachers, cops, and people of authority treat black people after they're not a cute as a button baby.shellie
- then people assume things about you that aren't even true, holding tough back from opportunity and growth. and so the cycle continues. this hits home for me.shellie
- shellie i got a ticket by a cop once. passed a dumb shit CA tourist who cant drive mountain roads in a straight away. he understood but was working on a grantdeathboy
- to give out more citations. sucks for me. but wrong place wrong time and i should have jsut let him speed up on the straight away and he would have got it. mydeathboy
- bad. but u learn. sucks too because as i hit 85 i said watch there's a cop hiding in those trees.. sigh... at the end of the day its tax revenue. paying my tolldeathboy
- usually i'd just go to court plead not guilty than discuss with the DA i have no problem with the fine its the insurance, and we accept non moving violationdeathboy
- they get theirs, i get taxed a little. this one however was small court jurisdition where the da was present in the whole court room at the same time.like wtf?deathboy
- just had to take the hit on this one and wasted time actually showing up in court. to your story i dont think there is any preying. could be just locationaldeathboy
- sterotyping that pays off like a fishing hole. sometimes cops just need to hit quotas. and again personal responsibility. i fucked up. i took the riskdeathboy
- got busted couldnt even plead it out. its not the cops or anyone else's problem but mine.deathboy
- I make choices, sometimes bad ones, sometimes ones that give me more grief than its worth (any rational talk on qbn). In example of qbn. I know fully well.deathboy
- Who do i blame for it? Well one myself because i am inconsiderate of other peoples feeling and more focused on truth and reality.deathboy
- the rest could be culture which is a huge tapestry. like you thought im white so you call me racist or whatever for acknowledging the logical fallcydeathboy
- in a meme. is it a race thing? naw. i actually don't think u hate whites at all. your not racist. but i think you acting with emotion, mostly fear of some sortdeathboy
- scared of what people think. such fears are typical amongst any "difference". young old fat slim. rep or dem. Some people might act on such things or combos.deathboy
- nothing you can do. and a blessing you didnt want to work with any small minded people as such. but dont think its all because you are black.deathboy
- its the same all over. im white and ive had plenty of my own shares of irrational discrimination. but its their right to have such feelings.deathboy
- as in if i asked to work for you and you said fuck off. well that is your right. its not racist its merely a personal value judgement.deathboy
- hell if you punched me and broke my nose id say an emotional assault. I expect you to pay my bill and move on.deathboy
- you know no one's gonna read that right? i stopped at "shellie i got a ticket by a cop once"pango
- i cant control how people will read it. the thought i should be concerned and dumb it down like responsive web design to the lowest common denominator or riskdeathboy
- flames of hate over social media.well im not on social media. actually not very social. so i have no issues saying what i think.deathboy
- but youre more than right ppl wont read it. who wants to read reasons for being wrong. does a bible kid want to here science vs creationism. very human todeathboy
- chase what you want to believe. and if you think i do the same, i can tell you i have no desires to believe anything. no preconceptionsdeathboy
- just a very curious observant mind unattached cycnical. really would like to drink with diogenesdeathboy
- and also remember no one refuted what she said...deathboy
- you know no one's gonna read that right?pango
- _niko7
Protests started in Toronto today, I understand the solidarity with our American brethren but this behaviour has no place in Canada:
- monNom1
Attacking diners in restaurants is a weird new tactic... How does this help?
- why do i see angry white girls making a mess and generating the shitshow?sted
- Stupid as shit.utopian
- Fuck em and their law....shapesalad
- i see no problem with this. silent ones are part of the problem.renderedred
- @renderedred, the silent ones are the ones that would make a difference to this increasingly toothless cause. Yet you think intimidation and violence will...Morning_star
- ...get you their support? It's just stupid and divisive. Where is the unity?Morning_star
- where is that body what unites these people under one political agenda?sted
- What we are witness to, is the extinction of the homo sapiens.shapesalad
- Toddlers didn’t get their naps that day, I blame the parentsGnash
- Attack? I just saw a guy drop a couple of plates.fadein11
- You are an idiot, thoughGnash
- I missed the attack part.fadein11
- In the spirit of redefining words as BLM is prone to do, Attack now means intimidate and shout abuse.Morning_star
- ah okay, shouting mean words and breaking plates. I have a feeling it may get way worse than this example.fadein11
- Let's just say it does more harm than good for the causedrgs
- it's fair to say the whole situation isn't exactly ideal yep.fadein11
- Only white people at tables makes them angryi_was
- Stuff like this is why Trump will be win bigly in November.Phrenological
- Long may it continue.Phrenological
- antifa are a bunch of idiotsernexbcn
- Ramanisky24
His future looks bright.
- delusional.
armed, and delusional.Nairn - The fuckface arrested and charged with first degree intentional homicideRamanisky2
- MAGA4LIFEutopian
- I like how the police are referring to that thing as “a long gun” instead of a fucking assault riflescarabin
- an assault rifle is a long guncannonball1978
- I know. But nobody calls it a “long gun” unless they’re trying to avoid calling it an assault riflescarabin
- They’re trying to protect the image of that thing so kids can continue to run around with themscarabin
- oh man, this kid is fucked. he messed up really bad and felt powerful. now he is fucked beyond belief. big gun, small brain.capn_ron
- You wouldn’t call a hot dog “long bologna”scarabin
- He should rot in jail just for wearing those crocsfuturefood
- Actually i think i will call them long bologna from now onscarabin
- "long bologna"... I'm on board.ben_
- Kid's going to get eaten alive in jail or youth detention.ben_
- I support your right to enjoying long bologna.cannonball1978
- delusional.
- Projectile6
- Yep, same thing in Canada, it's insane.ben_
- This is so important.nb
- crazy_niko
- put more into education, mental health, after school programs and we wouldn't need so many cops._niko
- wow thats incredible..pedromendez
- So.. if robots don't need pension plans, what does that mean?
YOU HAVE 5 SECONDS TO COMPLYNairn - i'd kinda prefer a link to the actual source. seems unreal.cotton
- SteveJobs0
I'm going to state what could likely be a very unpopular opinion here, but I think the title of the campaign 'black lives matter' itself is the source of it's own controversy - and needlessly so. It's too succinct for its own good amid a crisis that could use some exhaustive and well-articulated communication.
If the issues surrounding the title didn't exist, this would be an understandably confusing statement. One might think the intent IS, in fact, to imply one race is more important or deserving than another. If #BLM didn't yet exist and someone came up with 'white lives matter', no matter the context, this would without a doubt require some serious explanation and finessing.
So what I'm observing is those who don't face the same oppression and lack the context this title serves to remind us of, are left questioning its intent, ultimately causing severe backlash among those who do 'get it', and further clouding a situation that's already not clear enough to those it's so succinctly trying to spread the message to in the first place.
The ones who respond with 'all lives matter' aren't wrong, but they are missing the point. So the question is, was the point made clearly enough? I'm a big proponent of good communication. It's so very lacking in society at so many levels that I'm rarely surprised how many controversies arise as a result of poor, reckless, or lazy communication. And I have to wonder, is this a prime example of that. Should a campaign slogan need an explanation? Should it not clearly and effectively communicate its message to the audience it's trying to reach? I for one think so.. <emoji shrug for days>
Aaand in case it needs to be explicitly stated, I can both hold an opinion that questions the execution of a cause and support that cause itself - at the exact same time. :)
- The key to this is resolution. On the face of it BLM as a movement name doesn't reflect the resolution necessary to understand the issues. At the moment BLM...Morning_star
- ...as a movement isn't cohesive, maybe it will never be. It could do with a manifesto and some identifiable spokespeople. The link needs to be made between...Morning_star
- ...BLM as a rallying cry and the complex issues it believes in.Morning_star
- White privilege much?utopian
- utopian, state that without the sarcasm? The heckler thing isn't conducive to constructive communication and serves no purpose other than self indulgence.SteveJobs
- I'm genuinely puzzled that anyone would have a problem with the name. The context is people getting shot, the original post was "Our lives matter. Black livesyuekit
- matter." In other words, stop shooting us, not we are superior to you. Seems pretty clear to me.yuekit
- But I guess the inability to understand is representative of the total divide in American society.yuekit
- yuekit, depends on what you mean when you say 'total divide'. I don't think ALL of the 'ALM' group are being intentionally obtuse.SteveJobs
- Gradual, evolutionary societal change is effective & resilient. Radical, violent moments appear to make short-term gain, but unleash backlash & 2 steps back.BustySaintClaire
- Busty, which of those are you implying characterize the BLM movement?SteveJobs
- I tend to agree with you. All the confusion around the name of the otherwise very well-intentioned movement suggests as much.MondoMorphic
- There is no confusion on where people stand when they reply "All lives matter" to "Black lives matter".deadsperm
- ^@dead actually there is a lot of confusion especially with ppl in other countries that don't quite get the situation in the US.grafician
- the question is to who? are they saying they don't matter do white people? To cops? to other black people?_niko
- ^but overall, no, there should be no confusion - at least if you are decent, smart person.grafician
- deadsperm, I respectfully disagree. Be careful to not assume others' understanding or comprehension of any matter by projecting your own.SteveJobs
- @SteveJobs in some ways your concern is valid, and yes, the movement is just that a movement, no direct leadership - for police to harass even more...grafician
- @SteveJobs Would "All Black Lives Matter" change the message in any way?grafician
- anyway, racism comes from ignorance and lack of respect - it is not pure hate as no person is born hateful, so as it can be taught, it can untaught.grafician
- grafician, i think that would change it in a profound way._niko
- Words take meaning within a context. I find it hard to believe that people in America don't get what BLM means in the American context.deadsperm
- I don't claim to know what the general public might comprehend or understand As an example "Black lives matter too" seems obvious to me but maybe not to others?SteveJobs
- At least the understand it enough to think they need to reply with All Lives Matter.
That's petty. Fuck those people.deadsperm - I don't think they're going to change the slogan at this point guysyuekit
- @dead In America it has a direct meaning according to local context. In other countries, it can be interpreted generally as "Stop Racism" without losing focus.grafician
- But yes, if a person understands the context and still screams "All lives matter" it's punches for! No doubt about it.grafician
- BUT if another person screams "All lives matter" WITHOUT knowing the BLM specific context and thinking they support the movement, that's just silly of themgrafician
- When someone says ALL L.M. that's a great moment to help them understand why it's not really the right moment, and that this is a serious issuenb
- deadsperm, fighting intolerance with more intolerance and explitives won't get you anywhere. You'll just alienate the group who's support you're trying to win.SteveJobs
- America is a very complex country with lots of issues that need to be understood very well before talking about it. This goes for everyone, both local & foreigngrafician
- @yuekit, of course not, but I think the discussion is valuable as a retrospective.SteveJobs
- But as a BIG communication problem, most ppl listen to reply, not listening to understand and learn. This is the big elephant in the room everywhere.grafician
- To be extra clear, I'll extend an olive branch to those that claim to not really get what BLM stands for and seek to understand it.deadsperm
- But I'm totally against those that think BLM is controversial and respond with All Lives Matter. They don't get a pass on the excuse of ignorance from me.deadsperm
- I rest my case:
https://www.qbn.com/…deadsperm - ah thank you steve for not responding emotionally and going with trendsdeathboy
- i think its pretty obvious that the idea BLM is to alientate, divide and try to gain different sets of rights. Think the name is succinct to the point whiledeathboy
- denying it. why the hate to ALM in regard to police brutality? police authority goes beyond race. even the current case involved has nothing to with racismdeathboy
- if its a movement supporting all lifes why get pissed at the mention? also curious of all the races why it is so common this one.deathboy
- hispanics for sure probably more abused by police, covid 19 asian race killings, but no issues. culturally it is very interesting why always blackdeathboy
- dont have an answer. just really interesting culturally. is it media, or ways cultures handle stuff.deathboy
- @SteveJobs, you're boring, are you French or descendant of French ?i_was
- deathboy put the nail in the coffin.deadsperm
- elahon9
Amazing photograph.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.p…
"Thomas Nybo
22hrs agoFrom my home state of Montana: a portrait of cowardice and courage at a peaceful protest. Look closely at the eyes of the woman. Her name is Samantha Francine. She was raised by a single father, who happened to be white.
“He taught us from a young age that things were going to be different for us just because of the color of our skin,” Samantha wrote on Facebook. “One of the things he used to remind us of constantly was that ‘No matter the threat, always look them in the eye so they have to acknowledge you’re human.’
“My father passed 16 years ago this month,” she wrote. “In this moment, those are the words that went through my head. When I lifted up my glasses, he saw me. I saw him. He was acting out fear, I know that. I hold no malice in my heart for this man. I hope this moment will soften him. I hope he will be changed. But even if he isn’t, I am.”
I reached out to Samantha and we had a brief text conversation. I told her she is amazing and that her father would be proud. I told her about my own five-year-old daughter, and how I was going to tell her about a woman named Samantha Francine in Montana who is the face of courage.
In case you’re wondering what the big white guy is saying, video shot while the photograph was taken captured his words: “Black Lives Matter? Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!”
Thank you, Samantha, for standing firm. Thank you for looking fear and prejudice in the eye and not blinking. You inspire me, and you inspire a country.
Photo by Grace Jensen
#blacklivesmatter #strongerunited #lookmeintheeyes #hero #warrior"
- mort_7
The names of those killed by racism and police brutality are written along Chicago Avenue in Minneapolis. George Floyd was killed on this street in front of Cup Foods after being accused of using a counterfeit $20 bill. The site of his death has been converted into a large shrine.
Photo Leshon Lee
- Fentanyl floyd died of the Rona most likely. But facts mean nowt.Doris_McSquirter
- I liked you marginally better when you were drgs.mort_
- 2 separate autopsies were done on george. and both autopsies called Floyd’s death a homicide.
but what is fact anyway.pango - Doris is so stupid he thinks people drop dead of the virus randomly like that l. Let that level of stupid sink in.monospaced
- at least we can laugh at one more idiot around here , little doris.neverscared
- He should've tapped earlier.Doris_McSquirter
- ohhhh? was there a referee around?pango
- He did, you heartless cunt. That's the whole point. WTF.monospaced
- grafician5
it seems they also sat 8 minutes on the statue neck and then thrown it into the river nearby?
- https://twitter.com/…grafician
- that's how it's done! respect!renderedred
- Just like they did in Baghdad. And this too is an unwinnable war.Doris_McSquirter
- #StatuesMattershapesalad
- I especially lke how the white dude with dreds is the first to jump on the staute, but also the first to benefit from systemic racisim.jmckinno
- Hopefully this statue isn't destroyed:shapesalad
- https://s3.britishli…shapesalad
- The heir to the family said it's cool to take it down
https://twitter.com/…grafician - Fake news on the heir thing...
https://twitter.com/…webazoot - @web ha! good one, the names matchedgrafician
- https://www.dailymai… amazing footage.Doris_McSquirter
- Yeah, fair enough, perhaps the council could have had a review of the statues a few years ago and decided to archive that one.shapesalad
- as in 4yrs ago remember isis knocking down ruins. same mentalitydeathboy