#BLM

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  • ben_4

    Shellie's points about the nypd remind me a little of growing up in a city where people of colour other than white were somewhat rare. Not abnormal in the early 90's for Canada.

    We had a little skate crew, and in that crew was our friend Dev who happens to be black. Every time we'd skate this particular spot in uptown the cops would get called regardless of who was there. But we noticed a trend that whenever he was there with us the cops would show up 5 minutes into the session as opposed to maybe 30-40 minutes if he wasn't there and sometimes we'd get extra lucky and have to leave only because we were tired. If here were there though, 5 minutes tops.

    Those same cops would also NEVER give tickets if we were there without Dev, they'd drive up, blip their sirens and more or less just watch us leave on our own accord. If Dev was with us it would be a whole thing, ID's out, boards confiscated, tickets, lectures, etc. If we proactively tried to leave like we would if he wasn't there they would force us all to stop and go through this routine of sitting on the curb and deal with their shit. They always singled him out and once even remarked that his name "could pass for Canadian".

    Eventually we just started running from them, and sure enough they'd run after Dev. Every single time they would take off after him, and once, we smashed their cruiser window when they took off after him, three of us got caught for that and charged - funny thing is that we appeared in court and only had to pay for the windshield of the cruiser. Dev had 6 months of community service and a trespassing fine for running from racist cops.

    I remember vividly when two guys in that crew started avoiding Devon when he was around, or they'd come out, see him and leave. They always claimed they weren't racist but they just didn't want to be around when the cops came. Rather than sticking up for a friend they just kind of faded into the backdrop and "became" racist... perhaps they always were.

    • sound like you were not very law abiding children. However some seemed to grow out of it and you call them racist?deathboy
    • can only take your story for what you say but is interesting you choose the racist part as growing out or maturing to avoiding copsdeathboy
    • Well we definitely broke laws as they applied to skateboarding. Have we grown out of it? I'm not sure, as a few of us still skate and from time to time copsben_
    • tell us to leave. Are we as hot headed as we were back then? Probably not, it would take a lot for me to smash any window.ben_
    • The cops (and there were multiples, not the same men/women every time) were adults, and so I'm judging them as racists becuase they were.ben_
    • The effect they had on kids were as figures of authority who acted out their racism, so they are indeed racist by any definition... maybe they had epiphaniesben_
    • since, I wouldn't know. As for the two guys in our crew who I called racist... perhaps they have too, events through highschool would indicate otherwise.ben_
    • Hope that helps you understand the context the story is told within. A memory of actions taken and their effects on people. Even if those cops are visionsben_
    • of equality now, that doesn't erase or minimize what they did. Just like I will always have broken that window, even if I became a police officer.ben_
    • i more cared about the friends you called racist. than the cops you said were racist.deathboy
    • nothing the cops did is exactly racist. you dont know. and than say action of friends also racist. i think you need take out the idea of racism and re picturedeathboy
    • the scenarios. Is there any reason besides arbitrary color of skin for such actions?deathboy
    • did your black friend run slower. more resistant. take the stupid running paths. did your friend get a bit smarter on actionsdeathboy
    • with what you said there is no reason to think race amongst a multitude of things. Perhaps, but highly not probable.deathboy
    • occams razor that shitdeathboy
    • Yeah those two guys did stuff all through highschool that at least illustrated they were bigoted. Having been there, there's really no simpler explanationben_
    • for what happened. Often the most obvious answer is the answer. For example I'm certain I was the slowest in the entire group. Never got chased. Hope it helps.ben_
    • so your friends who were bigoted but friends ... falling out with friends is normal. maybe you just werent cool. or just didnt want to do dumb shit?deathboy
    • you think of every reason out there it was racism... if im to guess you are easily motivated by the moment and ppl. 8 years ago did you think it was racism?deathboy
    • Hi DB! yes, we always thought it was racism, as I said they did other things in highschool to prove that much.ben_
    • Your schtick is to offer a contrary POV to everything anyone says as if it hasn't been considered or that it's more true than an actual lived experience.ben_
    • Respectfully it's as if you live your life as a moving hypothesis. You have no real point of view, no actual opinion, which is fine, but really offputting.ben_
    • And not "offputting" in a way that effects me personally, emotionally or intellectually either... just like "are you a robot—off putting".ben_
    • So take it all for what it's worth, nothing or something or in-between. All the best to you!ben_
    • i will but as you said 2 times they did other things without explicitly stating. what other things? u seem to want to convince but no details or explanations?deathboy
    • its unsual. and you also said we. so not a personal verdict a collective one amongst othersdeathboy
    • ill take what you gave and file it so far in a box. not confident, shy, repressed, sympathetic, no sense of self, looking for self, troubled backgrounddeathboy
    • desperatley needs to be seen.needs connections, before fighting for blm u think u have your own battles won?deathboy
    • I was never trying to convince you of anything, in fact 5 notes up I made it clear that you should take what I'm saying for whatever you find it's worth...ben_
    • Again, the contrarian shit... and LOL at your last two notes... who on earth has all their own battles sorted out man. Some of us seem to have more than othersben_
    • Have fun tackling yours!ben_
  • drgs5

    • think she cares if someone holds an all lives matter sign? or even whitelivesmatter. Capitalism. No race has a monopoly on this trend.deathboy
    • think some people get butt hurt at the competition as does unions and even trump with trade shitdeathboy
  • drgs0

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/…
    "Oreo
    : a Black person who is perceived as adopting the characteristic mentality and behavior of white middle-class people"

    If I was to advise a black person who has a heavy ghetto accent, on how to be successful in life, I would give this unpopular advice: become an "oreo" and talk white.

    Become a "poet", a "citizen of the world" without ethnicity. Be selfish, renounce your heritage and live only in your interest.

    There is no such thing as to "act white". White people have to "act white" to be successful -- if it means to pretend to be educated and well-behaved. That's all I ever do.

    There are no other options in today's America than this kind of humiliation.

    Burn the whole continent with napalm and sow it with 1 meter thick layer of salt, so that no life grows ever again, because anti-socialism cannot be cured.

    Discuss

  • Ramanisky25

    Powerful testimony from all the witnesses on day 2 of the trial. This was one of them.

  • imbecile5

  • MondoMorphic0

    Why has there been little to no news about what's happening in Philly?

    • The looting and the violence? There's quite a lot online. Fresh Prince will be sad.PhanLo
    • For sure. Online is how I've seen it too, but to clarify, why aren't we seeing more on the national media?MondoMorphic
    • You know whyGnash
    • Too sensitive to mess up the elections rngrafician
    • smhgrafician
    • YupMondoMorphic
    • fwiw, lots of news on it here in Canada - I hear about it every other hour on CBC.ben_
  • akiersky2

    • Sam is the attorney for Breonna Taylor's family, one of four lawyers that worked for her $12 million settlementimbecile
    • Was shot fired into ceiling effecting other blacks? I'm thinking no. And again. Pos attorney race baiting. Not racial issuedeathboy
    • I'm pretty sure he's stoked on the settlement commission regardlessdeathboy
    • You act like your interpretation is the only correct one, db. Of course it's entirely possible it's race related. There's a track record of it, ffs.monospaced
    • If the only difference is race when handing out charge counts, it raises eyebrows.monospaced
    • oh really. well do show the evidence. i do think race is involved in the payout. a white person wouldnt get shitdeathboy
    • i also think white death wouldn't have got wanton danger or whatever. no one would have cared. white chic controlling drug money gets shot. noddadeathboy
    • do u think we'd have had riots? city pay outs? one of these days youre gonna have to get real mono. quit being a simpdeathboy
    • seriously u are suggesting, profiling cops as all racists. and in this case they target this black shit becuase of racism, got a judge to sign off on theirdeathboy
    • racism, and they went over there and shot her dead only getting wounded because of their racism...deathboy
    • or are you stating law means nothing and anything negative happens lawfully towards a black person must be racist? because cops are inherently racist?deathboy
    • sometimes you make me wonder how you ever made it home from school.deathboy
    • Oh what no question about race now?deathboy
    • Or handling? Hmmmmdeathboy
  • Projectile0

    Fuck me. One officer charged with wanton endangerment! The rest walk

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-u…

    • Louisville will burn tonight; rightfully so...ideaist
    • Yep, sorry state of affairs. 5 year max. Unlikely to face any time for this whatsoever. And it's grim that the pussy who blind fires through windowsben_
    • takes the fall for the other cops. USA!ben_
    • What a joke. Shithole country.BusterBoy
    • Buster what do u expect and on what grounds. Pretty curiousdeathboy
    • Rightfully so? You're an idiot, ideaist.MondoMorphic
    • Oh ... No grounds...deathboy
  • Morning_star0

    THE NEW RELIGION OF ANTI-RACISM

    A podcast and interesting listen in which Sam Harris talks to John McWhorter., who once said this..."victimology, separatism, and anti-intellectualism underlie the general black community’s response to all race-related issues, and "it’s time for well-intentioned whites to stop pardoning as 'understandable' the worst of human nature whenever black people exhibit it."

    https://samharris.org/podcasts/2…

    Listen, or don't 'sup to you.

    • anti-intellectualism underlies most of the american public right now.ben_
    • @ben I'm afraid it's probably worse, it seems to be a global problem.Morning_star
    • Absolutely. I think back to the women's marches a few years ago when Trump was elected. Nobody was tearing shit up.MondoMorphic
    • ...granted, the women's marches weren't happening prior to an election.MondoMorphic
    • I'm 50 mins in. They're basically picking apart all the things wrong with BLM thinking, and offering no new solutions to the problemsProjectile
    • Listened to him on Vox's "The Weeds" podcast, he's a thoughtful critic of current events and offers solutions worth exploring12xu
    • Yes global for sure. USA is over indexing in stupid though.ben_
  • imbecile3

    • But there is already a ton of gov programs focused on all those other things. isnt this a little bit liek no child left behind throwing money at problemsdeathboy
    • and hoping not your money, and just trying to feel good like u did somethign without ever even focusing on the real root issues.deathboy
    • take CA as an example on all of this. they are super liberal and have a ton of finance already and yet look at all the issues that remaindeathboy
    • BUT that is exactly the fake sell, its about political power and growing state authority in regards to the parts special interests rundeathboy
    • The imbecile has spoken with obvious lack of understanding the reality.pr2
    • Than feel free to explain where I'm incorrectdeathboy
    • Or is imbecile the imbecile name? Get insulted so much and so many names are inults hard to keep updeathboy
  • utopian1

    "If we're going to survive as a country, we must defeat" Black Lives Matter - Tucker Carlson:

    https://www.salon.com/2020/09/11…

    • That's just like your opinion man...grafician
    • defeat is the wrong word. enlighten people to it has little to do with race and all political. but think the majority already know thatdeathboy
    • lol why are you still here deathboy?!grafician
    • Why wouldn't I be here?deathboy
    • Why are you here? Why are any of us here?deathboy
    • I have an idea of .y actions but not definitive. Amy ideas of your action to be heredeathboy
    • lol when someone mentions the white genocide poster boy, deathy drops his ephebophilia study books and comes running to defend him like a shattered schoolgirl.face_melter
    • i had to google ephebophilia. haha not a common word unless among those interested in such things im guessingdeathboy
    • so who is this white genocide poster boy by the way? clearly should be cases of said genocide?deathboy
    • are u talking tuckerson? or someone in the article. because your hyperbole is so far strung i dont even know its target.deathboy
    • or would u perhaps respond purely to the quoted text and my response. is blm not a political movement?deathboy
    • seems super easy question. we know its not about black rights since we all share the same rights. ther eis equity and distribution through communist dictatorshpdeathboy
    • which has nothing to do with equality of rights and authoritary government interventiondeathboy
    • unless any of that is wrong and u can use your pedo 10 dollar words to explain isnt true?deathboy
    • Faces is quiet doing his ephebophilia thi
      Ng. Seriously dude where and why u find such terms. Creepy fucker
      deathboy
    • Has anyone broken this code yet?ben_
  • Ramanisky20

    • Miami dolphin players also refuse to come out for two national anthems, they say it’s ridiculous. Nobody likes to be force-fed fake wokeness_niko
    • The fans are idiots in general and more so for coming out to a game during the pandemic do what do you expect?_niko
    • Could this be less about race and not performing? Showed up to see a game not political bullshit?deathboy
    • I think that is logically the casedeathboy
    • ^sure racist guy, sure.Ramanisky2
    • get paid millions to provide escapism entertainment so folks can take a break if only for a moment... and they cram everyday politics down your throatPonyBoy
    • Choke on it.monospaced
    • Only thing getting choked here are NFL ratings... which only hurts the league / players / fans... good times!PonyBoy
  • _niko4

  • whatthefunk4

    Defund means to address the police collars for dollars campaign. In an effort to make double and triple overtime many cops will make an arrest at the end of their shift forcing them to work additional hours processing the arrest.

    Everyone who works in criminal law, from judges to prosecutors to defense attorneys and defendants, knows that police love overtime. A simple arrest, if done at the right time of their shift (toward the end), could gain cops eight or more hours of overtime and thus is far more worthwhile than making an arrest at the beginning of a tour.

    “Collars for dollars” is a dangerous practice for several reasons. First, people get arrested who shouldn’t have been, just because police are looking for overtime hours. Next, arresting people without probable cause makes cops lie. Once a person is arrested, police must swear in an official court document called a “complaint” that what they say happened actually happened. Sometimes the lying is incidental — like passing an arrest to a partner because he needs the overtime more or has greater availability the upcoming week to go to court. In such a case, one cop tells the other what he saw, then the second cop swears he saw it also and “takes the arrest.”

    Do we need a cop for a mental health call, do we need 3 cars to roll up at a traffic stop for teenagers, do we really need a swat team to show up when dudes are skateboarding?!?!? Defund means to curtail this excess spending of tax dollars...

    https://abovethelaw.com/2018/03/…

    • Cops are cunts all over. I worked for the fiscal in Scotland and dealt with them daily. Lying, conniving, mendacious, motherfuckers to a man. Every single one.face_melter
  • Ramanisky22

    Here’s the wide shot... the guy who claims to have taken this photo says this is from Madison Wisconsin and that this is not his mom. But the kid in the front there sure looks awfully like Kyle Rittenhouse.

    • no, not even close he looks twice as old and twice as dumb lol_niko
    • lol you’re probably rightRamanisky2
    • cream of crop of the Aryan race. Bunch of inbred hicks.tank02
  • jonny_quest_lives0

    How about we let the local newspapers tell the story rather than seeking out right wing doxxers with screenshots and memes to fit your narratives. Or at least citing your sources rather than a mugshot of someone whose past has no relevence to being murdered in their hometown.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/c…

    • oh get a grip... the story we're talking about a few posts down comes from a NYT journalist... only person pushing a narrative is you, dude. <3PonyBoy
    • What's my narrative? He murdered two people and will be tried as an adult in one of 9 states that tries 17-year-olds as adults?jonny_quest_lives
    • "So in your america I can go to my closest grab a tactical loadout show up at a protest and murder someone if I feel threatened."
      That is your narrative.
      PonyBoy
    • You try to act civil and ask me to look into the backgrounds of the victims as if it has any bearing. Then accuse me of pushing a narrative?jonny_quest_lives
    • All you seem to do around here is push fucking narratives pony? Pony's narratives Covid = Meh not so bad. look at car fatalitiesjonny_quest_lives
    • Pony: "The kid looked scared let's not rush to judgement"jonny_quest_lives
    • Quote me accurately Pony:jonny_quest_lives
    • "Got it Pony... So in your america I can go to my closest grab a tactical loadout show up at a protest and murder someone if I feel threatened."jonny_quest_lives
    • "And it doesn't make me the aggressor?"jonny_quest_lives
    • Stand by the statement...
      not a narrative
      jonny_quest_lives
    • I copied / pasted you, jonny. You just completely misquoted me "the kid looked scared"... lolPonyBoy
    • And I do NOT take covid that cavalier. You're referring to my comment months ago when only TWO people had died in FL. It's a nice try but a load of shit.PonyBoy
    • 6 months ago... to be exact:
      https://www.qbn.com/…
      PonyBoy
    • dude not even trying... all this rightwing whataboutism can be lumped into 3to 8 accounts that seem all interchangeable as the covid shit was deathboyjonny_quest_lives
    • Just got you confused with deathboy which is how bad things have gotten here. and this article wasn't even in response to our conversation but the mugshotsjonny_quest_lives
    • posted by green user "phrenological"jonny_quest_lives
    • whatabout the kid w/the hand gun? whatabout the kid who came out of nowhere and tripped THE KID running away? whatabout living in reality?PonyBoy
    • yet you felt the need to tell me to chill so who was triggered?jonny_quest_lives
    • If assigning me to that group of 3-8 account you obviously have disdain for helps you avoid reality then so be it. I will peacefully wander away now. <3PonyBoy
    • uh... you felt the need to make this post instead of keeping to the comments below... ... you were triggered, jonny and needed your own post to show it.PonyBoy
    • fuck... i said I was walking away... bye!! Do not want to fight!!! <3 <3 <3PonyBoy
    • The reality is two people were killed and more than likely this kid will spend the rest of his life in jail because his parents failed him.jonny_quest_lives
    • Pony he just murdered someone shot them in the head, they were trying to stop him from doing more harm .. I like you Pony but how are you not getting that??Ramanisky2
    • I just don’t want to argue anymore .. did enough of it yesterday. Spent.Ramanisky2
    • did you watch the vid, ram? the kid was running away... leaving. The NYT journalist points this out even... someone tripped him, hit him w/ a skateboard...PonyBoy
    • ... someone also fired a gun in the air all while the kid was obviously on the ground (not tuck and rolled as we were lead to believe in the news)...PonyBoy
    • well i am spent... what 's weird is this is the fucking thread that drags me back into qbn... i usually lurk but dammit but seeing that alt right victim blamingjonny_quest_lives
    • mugshot doxxing shit and the logical leaps being made to defend the shooters actions is infuriatingjonny_quest_lives
    • ...then he fires. Those facts didn't exist in to me UNTIL I saw the video. Else I've thought Kyle was a militia man tucking and rolling, mowing down protestorsPonyBoy
    • I guess in USA if you feel threatened, or may about to receive a punch or two... YOU FUCKING KILL THEM WITH YOUR GUN. And all is okay.inteliboy
    • what can I tell ya ... they witnessed him kill someone and tried to stop him ... that’s what I see.Ramanisky2
    • ... based on what I've been hearing on the news, reading here on QBN etc. I'm not backing up AR Kyle's actions etc... only pointing out that reality...PonyBoy
    • ... is NOT what it seemed until I could see that vid / read that NYT journalist's post.PonyBoy
    • All good Bro. *Fist bumpRamanisky2
    • You can take that and misconstrue as me supporting militia style action—being w/those 3-8 accounts mentioned before... some shit rightwinger... have at it. <3PonyBoy
    • okay i am going to post an article I just ask that you read it through it's via slate. so if you hate slate you are probably not going to read it.jonny_quest_lives
    • just trying to move the discourse back to civility...jonny_quest_lives
    • Slate used to be greatGnash
  • utopian5

  • Ramanisky24

  • drgs-4

    I found a whole book about this:
    https://files.eric.ed.gov/fullte…

    "What we found was that neo-segregation is widespread if not pervasive.
    About 46 percent (80 colleges out of 173 surveyed) segregate student orientation programs; 43 percent (75 colleges out of the total) offer segregated residential arrangements; and 72 percent (125 colleges out of the total) segregate graduation ceremonies. Though these arrangements are ostensibly voluntary, students can’t easily opt out. We tracked numerous indicators of neo-segregation, from “Diversity Fly-Ins,” (68 percent of the total) where colleges offer minority students an expense-paid segregated preview of the experience that awaits them should they enroll, to segregated alumni groups."

    The numbers are from last year. Expect 50%+ after BLM.

    Boomers fought for sexual revolution and porn, SJWs are trying to ban it.
    Boomers fought for freedom of speech, SJWs seek mass incarceration for hate speech.
    Boomers fought against segregation, SJWs brought segregation back.

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGra…





    I followed both of them immediately.

    Btw, if you ever wondered what an average night out with BLM is like, here is a 30 min video to soak up the atmosphere:

    • Pointing stuff like this out is far right hate speech. Off to the gulag with ye!Phrenological
    • Discuss?12xu
    • Discuss between yourselves, Ive had enough of thisdrgs
    • Finally, common ground between the kkk and ultra-leftGnash
    • Aren't they both parody accounts. Or is that the point?Fax_Benson
    • I know Titania is parody, never heard of the other oneGnash
    • But it’s hard to tell the diff these daysGnash
    • A fitting commentary neverthelessdrgs
    • Fucking punksi_was
    • i think the difference is choice.pango
    • you're exaggerating the "average" night out.pango
    • Cool post Doris.utopian
    • Discuss!pango
    • that video you posted is not a typical BLM night thoughmonospaced
    • A group of thugs gang up on a tranny? Sorry confused with one of my nights outdrgs
    • Discuss!pango
    • saying that's typical of BLM is saying that it's typical that people become cops just to murder black people ... it's hyperbole and it doesn't help anyonemonospaced