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- grafician-1
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- nb1
Damn... all the design leaders trying to have the hottest takes on “what Figma is” blah blah blah
Exhausting. Mental whacking off
- Is there a debate over what it “is” exactly? I’m not really following.monospaced
- It’s software. That is all it is.Bluejam
- 30 yo Ivy League dropout selling for $20b. Getting kinda tired of this story. Cheers to him, but privileged from day 1. Funded by Theil is icing on the cake.formed
- Check twitter, you’ll seenb
- What it is? It's not your's, its Adobe's, that's what it is.shapesalad
- Look at this: https://twitter.com/…grafician
- That’s one of the hot takersnb
- smhgrafician
- Good for the beauty school drop out....at least he got over on Adobe...unlike us schmucks!utopian
- Adobe is desperate to get those stock value.hydro74
- This is only an issue if you only design for phones and shit no? I figure most designers are above and beyond this type of thing anyway.monospaced
- utopian1
Figma’s cloud-based designed software has been a growing headache for Adobe over the last few years. It’s cheaper (there’s even a free tier), easier to use, collaborative and modern, and has been spreading like wildfire among designers at companies big and small. Annualized recurring revenue is poised to more than double for a second straight year, surpassing $400 million in 2022.
“This was a significant threat to Adobe,” Lo Toney, founding managing partner of Plexo Capital, which invests in start-ups and venture funds, told CNBC’s “TechCheck” on Thursday. “This was very much both a defensive move but also an eye towards this trend where design rules and design matters.”
That’s why Adobe is paying roughly 50 times revenue following a stretch this year that saw investors dump stocks that were commanding sky-high multiples. For the top cloud companies in the BVP Nasdaq Emerging Cloud Index, forward multiples have fallen to just over 9 times revenue from about 25 in February 2021.
- mg331
I've got to nitpick a few of the claims Figma makes on the page that grafician shared.
1. But isn’t Adobe XD also in the cloud?
With Adobe XD, local files must be synced to Creative Cloud in order to share. Any further updates made to the local file must then be re-synced and re-shared.
(This is true, but ONLY if you work on files locally. If you work on files in the cloud from the get-go, this is a moot point. All the files my team and I use are stored in the cloud. This is pretty much a false "gotcha" from Figma. Local files aren't the only way to work...)
2. I heard Adobe XD is also building collaboration features...
Collaborating in Adobe XD is different than collaborating in Figma. In Adobe XD, you design in one place but share in another. Comments are in a separate experience, and changes from different co-editors need to be merged manually.
(Not sure what they're really trying to claim here. Yes, with XD you publish prototypes to a different file or page and you send that link to people. Sure, it would be nice for comments to appear inside the XD working environment. But the "changes from different co-editors need to be merged manually" part is confusing in the context of comments. Co-editors can all be in the in the file together and make their edits no different than how they created their work in the first place. Nothing is "merged manually."
3. But I use Photoshop and Illustrator...
Don’t stop! We believe you should use the best tool for the job. If you’re photo-editing, choose Adobe Photoshop. If you’re doing detailed illustrations, Adobe Illustrator is a no-brainer. But if you’re looking for the best tool for UX design, Figma is here for you. Plus you can easily import images and SVG code into Figma and have your cake and eat it (too).
(Great, that's fine and I get it. But for me and my team members, the beauty of XD and CC is that people can create assets in PS or Illustrator, add them to a library, edit them as needed, and they never need to go into XD for anything. None of us XD users have to import anything. Those assets are just right there in our libraries when we need them - AND updates made in PS or Illustrator sync with XD with no effort.)
- OK but that page is really old. And Adobe bought Figma. So there’s no more need to make your pointnb
- Adobe XD hasn’t been worked on in many many months because Adobe had their sights set on buying Figma. Source: friend at Adobenb
- @mg33 You save all the files in Adobe cloud?! Ballsy.grafician
- I can’t stand Adobe’s cloud environment. I don’t trust itGnash
- Nobody should trust Adobe, ever!grafician
- My bet is that Microsoft will buy CanvaShenanigansTV
- grafician-4
- They’ve been very careful about wording: “no plans to...” is code for “we might...”. It’ll be a while. But they will integrate of course.nb
- They’ve also been very careful to be vague about the free version but clear about education. “Forever” only appears with education and it’s a separate bullet.nb
- It’s the same way politicians do it, you can read right through the lines. It’s not difficult.nb
- "adobe expertise.. video, vector, 3D" bwah ha ha ha, lolz.. right... hahahahshapesalad
- "turn it into Photoshop, but not yet"grafician
- Adobe is run by sales people, they will def fuck up Figma. No doubts. Question is how fast...grafician
- I would say a few years, right after Dylan Field the CEO of Figma cashes outgrafician
- Didn’t they say this about Instagram?Chimp
- I don’t recall Adobe saying anything about instagramnb
- I’ve heard from old colleagues who work at Adobe “oh yeah we suck, we’ll definitely ruin Figma eventually.”nb
- Adobe had to direct all employees not to give their opinion TO ANYONE because even Adobe employees think acquiring Figma will be bad for designnb
- They way I heard it, Adobe told employees to not even talk to their friends about it lolololnb
- Direct them to this thread instead https://qbn.com/topi…grafician
- @nb, haha yep. In my head Adobe, Facebook and Google etc have all merged into one monster.Chimp
- grafician0
- hahaha I just figured this out this week as well! Not obvious!MondoMorphic
- bogue0
This is a big deal:
- maquito0
Figma Schema - Live broadcast happening:
https://schemavirtual2022.figma.…
- uan0
Any good tutorials on how to prepare files for print in figma?
- actually just spent the night optimizing a 140MB PDF so the results are around 30MB so "don't do print in Figma"grafician
- the problem is with images, Figma exports full resolution so the PDFs are huge
But for print, no CMYK export so the colors are sRGBgrafician - the good news is it does encode good PDFs: https://www.figma.co…uan
- Fax_Benson0
Is it possible to export a doc with clickable / interactive elements to multi-page PDF? I've got some checkbox variants that I can't make clickable in the exported PDF. Ta.
- No.
Most probably you need to open that in InDesign and add links and stuffgrafician - Right. That's annoying. thanks thoughFax_Benson
- No.
- akiersky6
Uncle Sam to block Adobe absorption of Figma over monopoly fears
- not gonna lie. this kinda makes me happy..
i did NOT want figma to go with adobe.exador1 - yep, fuck adobehans_glib
- goodshapesalad
- If only they had done this when Adobe bought Macromedia and killed Freehand and ruined Flash...shapesalad
- ..then I wouldn't have so much grey hair from the stress of using Illustrator. And we'd still be having fun coding websites in AS1.shapesalad
- Yeah, fuck Adobe and Jobs!OBBTKN
- not gonna lie. this kinda makes me happy..
- sted7
- ?NBQ00
- (¬_¬ )nbq
- Is this from an adobe event? (See small Figma icon in dock on far right)whatthefunk
- @NBQ00 you will see it when you stop masturbating.
@whatthefunk with the pornhub icon next to itsted - gtfo, for real - ha!whatthefunk
- OH!nbq
- Well, _that's_ awkward.Continuity
- Corn cobs has apps now?pango
- Figma in dock. So what?NBQ00
- shoppedhotroddy
- I don’t get itnb
- Her watch.. it’s ridiculously huge infuturefood
- Pornhub has a desktop app? I still don’t get thisnb
- grafician0
- The largest tech acquisition in history, if I’m not mistaken.nb
- By value? Don't think so.
Microsoft getting Activision Blizzard was larger for sure.grafician - Looks like is rather small acquisition: https://en.wikipedia…grafician
- But will Adobe buy Canva next? :))grafician
- Adobe are shite, everything they buy gets fucked with bloatwarePhanLo
- It was only a matter of time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯OBBTKN
- I stand corrected.nb
- this needs a new panel now.refunktion
- maquito5
Did anyone watch the opening keynote of Config 24? I did, highlights:
Responsive Prototype Viewer - Resizing the prototype window adjusts the layout to the screen size.
Autolayout Suggestion - When selecting several elements, it suggests a framing to generate the autolayout; I found it very useful.
New Layout with toolbar below, floating and resizable sidebar - Looks like Figjam; It's going to take a little getting used to.
Actions button (Ai beta) - New button that opens an input, where you can write a prompt to generate different things from the library you want. This is quite powerful.
Version tracker - The list of versions and comments changes and you can go back and forth by frame instead of by page.
Pages in Figjam - Finally!
Figma Slides (bye keynote) with embed of prototypes; manageable by another Figma user at the same time.
(PS: Do not share the URL of a Figma in a keynote with a large audience EVER again).
- Thanks for the highlights - very useful.mort_
- I wish they would improve the right hand panel. So much small black type on a white background with very little visual hierarchy.mort_
- e.g. https://i.imgur.com/…mort_
- haha about the PS. that was brutal!lvl_13
- Yeah pretty good updates this timegrafician
- @mort they're doing a bit to improve this with the new UI. Pardon the poor quality - screenshot from stream: https://i.imgur.com/…duckseason
- But they are training AI models on our data just like Adobe attempted:
https://www.figma.co…grafician - @duckseason good to know, thx!mort_
- @graf yupmaquito
- @mort imgur link not workingmaquito
- @lvl damn!maquito
- Sorry, mort, it was my vpn. Yes; I agree with duck, they seem to have evaluated thatmaquito
- Sup maquito! Been a minute :)lvl_13
