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- scarabin7
What if we set the nsfw threads so they don’t bump in the left menu when posts are made? Anyone interested in participating in these threads would just bookmark them and carry on as usual, they would just essentially be invisible threads. No history would be lost and new users looking for design content won’t be scared off.
This kind of thinking already has a precedent here with our “prevent this reply from appearing on the cover” box (keeping things nice for visitors), we’re just extending the most extreme of it to include not appearing in the menu as well.
- OR delete them all and give us one invisible thread strictly for trash. The backroom or basement of QBNscarabin
- Then people would put dead bodies in the basement.cherub
- that's not a bad idea, QBN already has a basement :)sted
- Yes, this is exactly the suggestion I've been making for yonks now. Some threads already have this functionality.Nairn
- That would require working on the site. Easier to just delete and sip latte.ESKEMA
- @ESK - there are shitloads of threads that can be posted in that don't bump into the sidebar already. It wasn't intentional, but it's happened.Nairn
- Is there still a lift from the moderator team with this approach? this thread started with that seemingly being the concern. couldn't pay me enough to mod nsfwSteveJobs
- I think we’re largely a self-moderated place these days. We’re really good at categorizing and keeping stuff in the appropriate threadsscarabin
- Even our nsfw stuff is already neatly organized. We just don’t know what to do with itscarabin
- I think the issue is trying to appear credible to outsiders with boxes of smut in the living room. Let’s just put it in the basement so we can have visitorsscarabin
- With no visitors it’s just us sitting in our smut yelling at each other over the same shit we’ve been arguing about for two decadesscarabin
- NSFW is lamecanoe
- Continuity0
o hai guise.
What did I miss?
- monospaced5
The idea that if you remove them then that content will inevitably spill elsewhere implies that people cannot help themselves from posting it, which is nonsense. If you are compelled to post pornography and literally can’t stop yourself, that’s a different issue. Just my take.
- +1nb
- yep - maybe a little more potential for non-NSFW flagged posts to make it to the front-page (that might be counterproductive if the aim is to reduce moderation)kingsteven
- you think there's only reasonable people in here?ESKEMA
- I just think they can post/find that stuff anywhere else if they wanted. Never understood the NEED to have it on QBN. Just my opinion.monospaced
- ++GuyFawkes
- It's not just that they cannot help it. It's that they are not incentivized not to.cannonball1978
- ^ This. We have a handful of users that inexplicably stick around despite nobody liking them or their content. I think there will be spillover.garbage
- Childish contrarians are going to be contrarian.garbage
- elahon2
I'm in favor of ditching them. Unless there's an easy way to mark a thread NSFW and put an option at the user-settings level to show or hide NSFW threads? That way we could self-censor as necessary.
People that post NSFW shit in a non-NSFW thread should be dealt with accordingly if that's to be made into a new policy.
- “ Post belligerent or vulgar things at your own risk.” Not exactly a new policy.monospaced
- I forgot about that line. "at your own risk." is open to interpretation, though. Something less vague is what I mean. "Don't post NSFW shit or you're gone!"elahon
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯elahon
- I've got other places to look at pics of tits, dicks, and gross shit.elahon
- And not creepy omaha pics. Ew. Those alone would be worth deleting the threads, haha.elahon
- Lolmonospaced
- drgs4
Whose problem is it/who is bothered by it?
- the moderatormonospaced
- & we've all hinted this for a long time nowGuyFawkes
- I've literally never complained. I simply don't visit those pages, nor do I post in them. It's not hard to avoid, mostly.monospaced
- Once a year I'll go through the Boobs one, because ... boobs. :)monospaced
- exactly, and that's how it should beESKEMA
- ESKEMA3
Banning and hiding and censoring always gets you good results right?
- mort_7
Butt of the Day, boobs of the day, etc... it's like a forum for sex-starved teenage boys. I'm amazed there are any women who still log in here.
- <Nairn
- Ah yes the sex, Ive read all about itdrgs
- they are standing at the exit doors smoking , watchin the male monkeys goint at it...neverscared
- and drinking and giggeling of course.neverscared
- colin_s1
This seems to me to be an issue of precedent setting. Short of a declared list of rules, forum engagement is predominantly a social contract. If there's no common understanding as to why pornography is or isn't allowed (and under what, if any, circumstances), it'll probably lead to those ideas being tested (by force or just the passage of time).
Is it an outright ban on NSFW content , is it a "mods are tired" deal... I think all that people are looking for is the established baseline of what system exists (and, if possible, knowing why).
Personally I always thought having porn content here was strange. For one, it seemed completely off-brand for a design forum that tries to be at least semi-conscious of humanity? And for two, the amount there was seemed a bit ... excessive. But I do like that it was always contained to a couple threads that I could just ignore, and I can see the risks of ending it all without any sort of nod to what isn't or isn't acceptable.
I'm fine with removal but would only suggest some type of "moving forward, here is a baseline system" established rule set. There have been plenty of posters over the years who have gone to great extent to kind of push boundaries, so it seems removing something without acknowledging how to move forward is the riskiest path.
- I'll subscribe to your magazine.SteveJobs
- Don't need a strong description of what QBN is, just more rigidity around what it isn'tcannonball1978
- noneck4
The NSFW stuff is embarrassing and is preventing grown-ups from engaging with the site.
- I don't agree. If more grown-ups would contribute more seriously good content, the nsfw would disappear by the weight of the better content.uan
- In that case we would benefit from more ways to share that content here- more media support. Gifv, reddit video, mp4, webp, etcscarabin
- uan, you just found the catch 22. we can't get eddie van halen unless we make a triumphant video, but we can't make a triumphant video without eddie van halen.SteveJobs
- scarabin4
Weird that this comes up months after we took a poll and actually cared about it.
I was once banned for posting a shot of testicles. Just plain ol’ ballsack. Now it’s a political issue that must be belabored for a year.
Just make a decision, we’ll live with it. And if we don’t we’ll die mad. Who cares
- I wouldn't exactly say it's political. But I understand what you're saying.monospaced
- drgs3
If this was real life politics, which side is liberal: pro-COTD or neo-puritans?
- Reducing everything to politics, sides, tribes and labels is the cause of many of this planets problems. It's not a political question FFS.Morning_star
- Its too late nowdrgs
- It's not too late if we decide to stop perpetuating it.CyBrainX
- Morning_star4
This place is rather like one of those villages with increasingly elderly residents. A place that acknowledges that without new blood it will descend even further into a community of olympic standard bin shouters and dirty, but ultimately impotent, old bastards. Removing the T&A is like giving a new lick of paint to an unused bus stop.
What we need is a new discoteque.
- Why would any new users come here?PhanLo
- Why have any of us ended up here?Morning_star
- this place had a much bigger user base during the nt > qbn transition. the drama was epic, but so was the diversity and content.SteveJobs
- omahadesigns0
Good riddance.
- nb2
This reminds me of when industrial workplaces started making their workers remove nude calendars and sexual posters from their workstations. It was such a common thing when I started working, at around age 15 in the mid 90s. I remember a guy who ran a drill press or something and he had a grid of like 200 bikini girls cut from the local paper.
A lot of the men complained when the company finally made him take them down. They grumbled about women coming in and ruining the workplace. Sounds a lot like some of the people here.
Grow up.
- So he didn’t post gaping vagina on a teenager?monospaced
- Nairn0
You said this months ago about CotD and yet..?
Others here are right though - shit'll just spill elsewhere, because wankers gotta wanker.
There's no way to keep the threads but have them not bump or ever appear in the side list? I mean, that functionality IS somehow possible, intended or not.
- Without even changing the code they could create a user named FapBank and people could post on the profile page without it ever showing up on the menu.palimpsest
- Why can’t that elsewhere be a different website? I still don’t see why we have a porn thread here at all.monospaced
- Cat of the Day?nb