Russia-Ukraine Invasion
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- grafician-2
- also this account documents the Russian loses: https://twitter.com/…grafician
- haven't seen such destruction since Desert Storm...grafician
- 7 or 8 generals, and a defense minister that may or may not be in a nuke bunker.garbage
- wonder what's the Ukrainian military losses...pango
- Ukraine didn't had a big army to begin with, so the bigger loses are probably in civilian lives, communities, cities...grafician
- And to compare to the US side, in Desert Storm they deployed something like 500K troops and lost a couple hundredgrafician
- Ukraine has one of the biggest armies in Europe.pr2
- by military personnel it's something like 250K active so 2nd largest after Russia's in the region, but only 4B/3%GDP budgetgrafician
- info from here: https://en.wikipedia… but that page doesn't list actual tanks/planes etc. or I'm too tired to look...grafician
- yeah around 200 aircraft it seems, so tiny https://en.wikipedia…grafician
- How ironic it is that the Ukraine is destroying: Russian planes, helicopters and tanks with: Russian made mobile surface-to-air missile systems.utopian
- LOL to "Source: indicative estimates by Ukraine's Armed Forces".pablo28
- So far, the Ukrainian army has dominated the Russian army in spreading false news and propaganda.pablo28
- They had the entire Western media on their side.pablo28
- @pablo28 lol stupid jelly cunt, u must know that they are because you are there...sted
- ya i thought kremlin is really good at propaganda and misinformation. what happened?pango
- nice iconsmilfhunter
- BaskerviIle1
A colleague of mine who's still in Ukraine sent me this film a friend of his made, it's stories from people in Mariupol:
- pango0
- fuckin' animalsGuyFawkes
- Poor wording.palimpsest
- you are both rightrzu-rzu
- jagara5
I (obviously) have zero trust in Russian state-controlled mainstream media. Russia is a de facto dictatorship, punishing its own people with up to 15 years of prison, for using the word "war" instead of the state-approved "special military operation".
I (generally) trust western mainstream media. But even so, the west (and Ukraine) has its own reasons for using tactical misinformation. When i hear optimistic news about Russia failing, I tend to take it with more than a grain of salt.
How do you navigate? What's your preferred news source(s)?
- Agreed 100% with you. Unfortunately, I still more or less rely on sources like The Guardian, The Globe and Mail, WaPo, and NYT ...Continuity
- ... simply because I trust non-MSM even less.Continuity
- The DW interview I just posted above with a Russian investigative journalist is pretty good....seems objective.yuekit
- That said, I think that western non-Fox MSM has done a pretty good job. Is the reporting accurate? I think largely yes.Continuity
- @yuekit, interview like the DW one you posted are precisely why I think western media is largely on-point. The Guardian and the NYT have done similar piecesContinuity
- ... in the last few weeks.Continuity
- The cheerleading for Ukraine can get carried away in some cases but I don't think the overall picture painted by the Western media is false.yuekit
- The one thing I have been doing at all costs, though, is avoiding social media on this subject. No FB, no IG, nothing.Continuity
- it's an incredible thing to have a choice.sted
- @Continuity Re: SoMe: Couldn't agree more.jagara
- ap, reuters, eRTe, yt, twitter, telegram, some native forums eh., minimal cnn and i'm so happy that i can separate the two sides on my fb. because .hu is fckd.sted
- and the proper old-school rassan2hungarian. unlike most of the online translators, it knows all the 3 meanings of a word:
https://i.imgur.com/…sted - ru2hu is 2x the size as the hu2ru:)
https://i.imgur.com/…sted - Surely the only trustable source is QNB, right?Chimp
- Financial media. It seems to have a broader attention span, and has the constraint that if they lie, people lose their money, and they lose their audience.monNom
- Still to be taken with a grain of salt, to be sure, but rarely is there an article about ‘who do we hate today’ in the business pages.monNom
- Most of what I post is from Bloomberg, FT, etc. sometimes CNN, and random twitter. Tons of info everywhere, if you're interested in something...grafician
- in europe, yes Reuters and AP and independendent local news sourcesgrafician
- @monNom massive grain of salt in all directions. there are basic things that when they fall over bigger trouble happens than we’ve seen so far.sted
- It is important to step back and look at the bigger picture sometimes, to see into what direction are the events pulling both sides.sted
- @sted is that even possible anymore? I mean anything coming from Russia is 99% state propaganda?
I try to post objective but it's all subjective yknowgrafician - I see a lot of US mediums taking a much more aggressive tone than they should.
European news agencies are trying to focus on facts and it isn't easy.sted - As you go east the tone change with influence from fake, made up "news", unhinged opinions, and incredible amount of noise.sted
- Some of this is visible on Facebook and Twitter for the English speaking internet users.sted
- NBQ000
Ahh, karma is a bitch.
Russian soldier standing on the Ukraine flag, Russian soldier no more legs.
He also looks a bit like Thom Yorke from 1-2 decades ago.
- Fuck them, however, still depressing and not funny.jagara
- Not funny. All I want his Putin and his Croonies heads on pikes. These guys, are brainwashed /tank02
- putin owes him two legshans_glib
- I can not imagine how he will process the loss of his legs for Putins terrorism throughout the rest of his life. I wish him well.shapesalad
- Wish him well? How do you know he didn't shoot innocent civilians? The way he's standing on that flag looks to me like he's pretty much in favor of this war.NBQ00
- Living is easy with eyes closed...********
- ...misunderstanding all you see.********
- Great having a nice comfy goodies/baddies worldview. *thumbs up*********
- < What an extremely distasteful and misguided post.mort_
- NBQ with tremendous, eye-shattering, orgasmic fantasies of Russians being eviscerated by pipe bombs and wild animals.face_melter
- not at all. but it's them who invaded another country and killing innocent civilians.NBQ00
- yeay yeah, like all shitlibs you can't contain your furious sexual energy at the thought of war and Rules Based Order™.
No war other than class war.face_melter - ok fuck offNBQ00
- If he killed anyone, he will know it. It will haunt him. Like the memories of his legs.shapesalad
- And how much more devastating now knowing he was sent to war under false pretences.mort_
- NBQ00-4
A woman (33) from Kyiv suburb tells the story of drunk Russians breaking into her house, killing the husband, & raping her for hours. The son (4) was hiding in the basement. Still doesn’t know his dad was killed.
- kaffa23-1
- _niko-1
Russia currently gets €400m (£340m) per day from gas sales to the EU.
Bonkers, and we think boycotting Burger King is making a difference lol
Germany warns of a recession if Russian gas is turned off. Time for renewables?
- like rassa is the only gas station in the world.sted
- the thing is, once we cut the russian gas, it's forever.
Germany announced they will try to cut it by the end of the year and it's irreversiblegrafician - so yes, seems they get a lot of money now, but thats the last money they're getting probably ever from Europe and they don't sell anything elsegrafician
- Without that gas, Germany turns into Mad Max. Europe don't have the infrastructure to import enough LNG to replace RUS supply.monNom
- Current LNG terminals are already at capacity. Proposed terminals in the past few years have been voted down.monNom
- And it's not just heat/electricity that gas is needed for. Nitrogen fertilizer = gas. Diesel fuel process needs hydrogen from gas. Glyphosphate = gas.monNom
- Losing 30-40% of gas means critical things for food production don't get made, or people freeze, or the lights go off. Not a great choice.monNom
- Without fertilizer or herbicide, food production falls in half or worse. So it truly is a situation where Germany would cut off its nose to spite its face.monNom
- Yeah, if only we could ask Ukraine for all that as they would replace Russia...oh waitgrafician
- Doubt they could match the capacity. Especially if the Russians disrupt things.********
- This entire conflict is about Ukraine replacing Russia as supplier to EU!grafician
- The entire idea of EU politics after WW2 is trade! We were fools thinking trading with Russia will turn that shitty country into a more pacified shithole....grafician
- ...now simply rectified that mistake and sure, take the short therm L for the long term securitygrafician
- NBQ000
BREAKING:
Swedish TV4 has revealed that two of the four Russian aircraft that violated Swedish airspace a few weeks ago, were carrying nuclear weapons while doing it.
- grafician-2
"Beijing moves to strengthen Moscow ties in wake of Ukraine invasion
Russian and Chinese foreign ministers meet for first time since the conflict began"
https://www.ft.com/content/4ff67…
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- "Chinese foreign minister Wang Y told his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, that “the two sides’ will to develop bilateral ties is even firmer”"grafician
- lol so that ONE plane yerstday from Moscow to Chyna was Lavrov after all :))grafician
- "Lavrov also said Russia and Iran would look together for “practical steps” to bypass western sanctions."
Awwwwww sweetheartsgrafician - Good news.********
- How to get past the pay wall?instrmntl
- no paywall for me, but:
https://i.imgur.com/…grafician - usually browsing incognito on these websites bypasses the article limits...grafician
- Here’s an alt link:
https://todayuknews.…instrmntl - ^tnx!grafician
- where is the cccp statement.sted
- grafician-1
"Ukrainians Repurpose Junkyards And Garages To Repair Battle-Damaged Tanks"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dav…
"Russian forces are targeting Ukraine’s weapons factories, hoping to chip away at Kyiv’s ability to repair damaged vehicles and equip its army.
But when it comes to armored vehicles, at least, attacking factories might not make much of a difference for very long. The Ukrainians already are finding ways of fixing battle-damaged vehicles without sending them to big, easy-to-target factories."
- Bennn1
'Chinese and Russians advance their vision of a new world order'
"I am convinced that at the end of this stage, the international situation will be much clearer and that we [...] will be moving towards a multipolar, just, democratic world order," he launched to his host.
https://ici-radio--canada-ca.tra…
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"Democratic world order" ... LOL
we live in a simulation, all this is unreal. Lies becoming truth, totalitarian regimes becoming democratic. WTF
- grafician0
"Ukraine's ambassador tells U.N. the 'demilitarization of Russia is well under way'"
"Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed his invasion of Ukraine sought only the "demilitarization and de-Nazification" of Russia's smaller neighbor. More than a month into the invasion, Ukraine's United Nations ambassador, Sergiy Kyslytsya, used the same phrase to highlight Russia's losses in the war. "
- "Russia's loss of 15,000 or more troops over a decade in Afghanistan helped lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union. "grafician
- sted1
- https://twitter.com/…sted
- captn obv but mines?grafician
- nah, UFO of the day for suure!
"there's a whole fleet of them!"grafician - nah, just https://www.youtube.…grafician
- Continuity0
Err. OK? That's it, then, is it? Not very good at what they do, these Rusky soldiers.
- No idea atm, there are a lot of videos of rassan/belarus movements away from the borders.sted
- Intentionally trying to confuse the west, maybe? Dunno. This seems completely out of context with anything.Continuity
- and 90% of these withdrawal news today are from the US.sted
- Hm, true that.Continuity
- @sted satellites and awacs reporting live every movement?grafician
- sted, Continuity, think this might be why?
https://i.imgur.com/…imbecile - that is stupid and sinister as fuck.
regarding these movements this looks more real
https://twitter.com/…sted - yes activity moved in the air from belarus to the donbass. this is visible on things like flightradar: you see commercial flights drawing bigger circles easternsted
- sted1
- grafician-5
A thought: ok, US/NATO can't be directly involved on the ground, but what about in space?
Do you think there are still Russian satellites live in space? Maybe a reason for all this breakdown in communications on the Russian side is the fact that all their satellites in orbit are "down" somehow?
Keep in mind you need live satellites to even target nukes...
